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Running multiple midlets?

Hello,
I just got an AT&T Tilt. I want to be able to run Opera Mini and the Java GMail app at the same time, without having to close one first. I have not found a way to do this. Whenever one is running, if I try to run Java again, it just goes right to the running program.
I also followed the instructions at: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
This created shortcuts to both GMail and Opera Mini. However, if I run OperaMini, then run the shortcut to GMail, it just activates the already running Opera.... same effect as selecting "Java" from the start menu with one already running.
Has anyone figured out a way to run more than one midlet at a time with the Tilt?
On my 8125 (Wizard?) I was able to run multiple midlets, which I believe was the Intent version of Java.
Thanks for any help!

Good question ! I was also wondering about that.
Thanks for the link that helped me create shortcuts, the tckmax trick isn't working for me though, I still get asked about permissions on the Kaiser? Ah I see that "flexte" pointed it out over there already, must be some extra security on our little Kaiser then!

Opera Mini 4

Hi Team,
Opera mini 4 has made my mobile surfing heaven. Good bye PIE! Thank god.
However. I have two queries.
1. Anyone know how to get shot of the annoying "Allo Net Access" Prompt every time i run the midlet? In my Java prog under security I only get "Ask" and "Never Allow". Need an "Always Allow" option, but it's just not there.
2. How the hell do i directly link to a java program, without having to first boot up java, then choose the app? I know this will be possible, but haven't fathomed it yet. I'm wanting to stuff the link under the internet button so I can be rid of PIE for ever.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Matt

OM4 is a java midlet - you must access it through Java. You can make shortcut on Today screen.
As to the "allowing network access", after you have opened program, go to Bookmarks and then Opera Mini - you will find options there. But basically, you will always have to check allow access to network.

Both can be done.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
EDIT: I attached the files discussed in case you don't want to register.

Yes, both can be done. Here are the simplest instructions I put together a while back.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1270419
And yes, grab the fix.zip in the last post above and you can skip step 1 in my instructions in the linked thread...

The issue with the direct link works fine. But I have already tried to modifiy the selector.utf in both ways, by the fix and by using an hex editor.
But I still get this damn access questions.
I use a TyTNII with shipped HTC Rom with Opera Mini 4 final installed.
The description in your posted link is for OM beta2. May it be that modifications
are not suitable anymore for version 4 final?
A solution would be great.
Hans Olo
Edit: Ok, seen in the link of the last post from jomo25 that the version of jbed is the cause. Thanx for the info.

Icon
This is all perrrrfect. Is there a way to change the Icon?

if you want to make a shortcut to launch Opera Mini directly:
Use a Notepad on your PC to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
Could not find suite s1_
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Could not find suite s0_
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It might be s2, s3 or more - the s# changes based on how many other java apps you previously installed. Even if you had one and deleted it, it still counts as one. So try some more numbers.
Also Hans- make sure you are using JBED and it should work.

xTyTN said:
I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
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I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.

enigmaneo said:
I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
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Thanks enigmaneo, it works for me, too

Also make sure you ALWAYS check out the Wiki - I've explained all these questions in my Opera Mini- and MIDlet-related tutorials & articles (see for example http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...n use Opera Mini as the system-level browser! - make sure you follow the links from the latter)

Thanks for this info... took me to "s7" until it worked. Thought I was doing something wrong...

UPDATE (11/30/2007): The link association problem has been fixed for WM6 in the meantime (see my last article on the association). This means you can already have the system invoke Opera Mini when you click a link in an e-mail / in any document.
Note that there are still newer and newer versions and optimizations (even faster and faster versions of the invoker script to minimize waiting for Opera Mini to be invoked) published in the Comments section of my related blog post; that is, make sure you also follow it.
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.

Menneisyys said:
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
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I couldn't agree more. This little fix with turning off the notification to accept the session has made it a lot more usable to me. The browser is awesome and while it can be slow sometimes due to formatting the page, etc., I wouldn't use anything else. PIE simply falls flat in comparison.
I just really dig the screen scrolling with my fingernail (screen protector on there of course).

I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?

Scann69 said:
I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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You, then, can just use the hack described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1666254&postcount=6 - it'll work. Also make sure you read the entire thread.

I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?

drcompton said:
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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Did you also try the hacked JAR file I linked to? It WILL work if you deploy it locally and manually set the Blanket model.

Jar file
Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it

drcompton said:
Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int-SIGNED.jar

Opera Mini 4.1 has been released

http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.

gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.

Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...

famewolf said:
Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.

ProudPop83 said:
Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...
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There are several differences. They have them listed somewhere... The main one I noticed in my short time with it was the inclusion of a "synchronize" feature, which syncs bookmarks and some other stuff with their servers. If you use the new beta for desktop machines, it syncs with their servers, too, so your PC Opera and Opera Mobile/Mini are up to date with eachother. Kinda like Microsoft Exchange for web browsing stuff.

Yeah but i dont really use that feature. The one thing i can say is I like the search in page feature.

gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Upgraded this morning. Upgrade process was fine...kept bookmarks and settings....I see no problems.
.....and there are differences in 4.1.....most notably, being able to download files without calling upon IE......and it's also supposedly up to 50% faster (which basically just means it could be 1% faster on 99% of the web, but if it happens to be 50% on the other 1%.....then it is "up to" 50% faster in general).

fb401 said:
What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.
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unassigned asks you everytime when you want to go online for net access. Plus whenever you want to save something to file system using browser it asks you permission to access file system.
Signed version only asks these questions at install and never after that

Upgraded from 4.0 to 4.1 without any problems, kept all my settings and bookmarks also. Did find it took a little while to upgrade so be patient

famewolf said:
Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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They do, they just messed up the links so you might have to click around, unless they fixed that problem.

can it do copy and paste?

I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...

jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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The startoperamini thread includes a mortscript which launches opera for you in one step..no need to open java manually first. You can however create a shorcut that calls the java exe and tells it what midlet to launch...should be more info available via search.
The script is alot easier.

Which version of opera 4.1 is better for the Tilt?
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.

wisniak said:
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.
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Whats your point? Did you try it? Hell half of us have indicated we are running it and our signature shows a tilt.

jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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You cannot start it outside of Java but at least you can start it with one click. Just create a link file and put:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
in it (where 28 is the number of characters and 0 the number of the installed java app.... so they may vary)
put this file in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and there you go.
No need for an extra step.
greetz

I tried the previous(generic) version
And it didn't work.
I asked the question because supposedly there're 2 versions, one is a signed version, the other unsigned.
Further, when I had my HW6910, there were a high-memory version and a "regular" version, and the "regular" version didn't work.

Here is the procedure that I followed for my 4.0 (I also upgraded to 4.1 last evening, everthing is OK). The procedure below works fine, no need to have MortScript and such.
Then you can replace the IE button with that shortcut!
However, I have not tried the selector.utf trick yet (again, it works with the 4.0). I use the "Fix.exe" (attached) to remove that security prompts. Just copy the selector.utf in the same folder, and run that Fix.exe (Make a backup of the utf file first!).
Here is the reference:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Making a direct shortcut to Opera Mini (or any other Java Midlet)
Since Opera Mini is a Java Midlet application, one annoying aspect is that to run Opera Mini, you must first run the Java Midlet, tap on the "Applications" list item, then tap on the "Opera Mini 4 beta" item. Luckily, some industrious users out there have figured out how to create a shortcut that launches Opera Mini (or any other Java app) directly. Assuming you haven't installed any other Java apps, you need to create a shortcut file (e.g., opera.lnk) pointing to ("\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s1_), or ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s1_"), if using Jbed instead.
The magic portion is the number after the the letter "s" in the shortcut target. This is the list position of the Java Midlet in the Jeodek/Jbed application list. If you install Jeodek/Jbed as a fresh install (non Mogul users), and then directly install Opera Mini, just use the number "0" to refer to Opera Mini ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_"). If you install another MIDlet (after Opera Mini), its index will become 1, then the next installed Midlet will have an index of 2, and so on.
Locating the number that corresponds to a Java Midlet
To find which number corresponds to an installed Java Midlet, navigate to the (windows\appdb) folder. There should be some .jar files in there, with one of them being the Opera Mini jar file (or other Java Midlet you wish to target). Whatever the number is after the letter "s", is the number needed in your shortcut link. Only the first part of the file name of the midlet is needed, so lets say, in the appdb folder, you have "s0_suite.jar", for your shortcut target, leave out the suite.jar, and only put "s0_", so your shortcut should point to ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_), NOT ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_suite.jar). A pre-made shortcut file can be found here.
Creating/Modifying Shortcuts on Your Mobile Device
The following lists a couple of ways to create edit/create shortcuts with parameters on a mobile device.
1.) Use the excellent shareware application, Resco Explorer (the method I personally use, and find the easiest).
2.) Create the shortcut manually using any text editor. Shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk". So, for example, lets create a file in a text editor, and save it with the file name OperaMini.lnk, the contents of the file should look similar to this :
Code:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
28# means that the shortcut target, including the parameter (-run s0_) is 28 characters.
Note: A forum user has reported that the freeware application, Total Commander does NOT create the shortcut properly.
After you have created/named the shortcut, all that is left to do is to place the shortcut file in your start menu (\windows\start menu\programs) folder.
Skipping the Connection Permission Prompt (Only applies to JBed)
One of the only negatives of using Jbed, over Jeodek, used to be that any time an application wanted to access to the Internet, Jbed would ask twice if you want to allow the action. It will also forget this permission next time you ran the application, so you would have to give permission every time you ran a Midlet that tried to access the Internet. Thanks to forum user g-funkster, a work around for this annoyance has been found!
1.) Copy the file \windows\appdb\selector.utf to your PC (make sure backup this file first in case something goes wrong!)
2.) Remove read-only attribute
3.) Open the file with a hex editor, and find the line
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
Replace the text untrusted with the text tckmax. Add space characters between the x (in tckmax) and the comma (otherwise connection warnings or a nullpointerexception error may occur). The above line may appear multiple times in the "selector.utf" file, each corresponds to a different Java Midlet you have installed in JBed.
If hex editing is too blackhat for you, g-funkster has created a desktop application that can do this for you automatically! You can find it here.
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!

Yes, it does.
fisha21 said:
Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!
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Microsoft Voice Command

Hi, has anyone managed to install this, and get it to work? It doesn't install properly on my Diamond and I can only see settings for it, nothing under programmes.
I get an error along the lines of "programme not installed correctly" or something like that ... can't stand Voice Commander pre-installed.
Thanks, M.

same happend to me, but just ignore the mesage. it is installed anyway. afaik the icon for voice command always was under settings it never had one in programs.
i just installed it and it works fine, allthough it seems that the recognition is not as good as it was on my tytn. will see if it improves over time...
cheers
chaos42

Interesting. I set the button to be key 1 (same as where voice commander normally resides) and yet when I press it I just get a single tone beep response, not the normal multi-tone initiating voice command one.
Haven't tried it with my bluetooth headset yet as the charge has run out on it!
Also, has anyone figured out how to remove the installed Voice Commander?
Thanks, M.

works for me!
vc1.6 i installed it 5 times and did not work after i assigned my only f))king button it just one beep not like used to 3 beeps so i create a icon in programs dir and then link button to that it works perfect. perfect recognition if anything better and faster than any of my previos pda's

MS VC 1.7 freezes Daimond to hard reset
I Posted in another thread, but it should indeed belong here :
Hope to see a working solution for MSVC soon , an official fix from MS would even do fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2323586&postcount=109
I flashed to Eslite 1.0, so i might give it another try now

I have MSVC 1.6 OK on my Diamond. It is true, that the installation tells me error when I install, but now it is OK. You can configure MSVC in Settings/Voice Command. Then:
1) you have to create link to voicecmd.exe (for example voicebtn.lnk), copy this link into \windows\star menu\programs
2) in settings/button assignment, you have to reassign long press of phone button to this new link voicebtn.lnk and now is MSVC functional

vphk said:
I have MSVC 1.6 OK on my Diamond. It is true, that the installation tells me error when I install, but now it is OK. You can configure MSVC in Settings/Voice Command. Then:
1) you have to create link to voicecmd.exe (for example voicebtn.lnk), copy this link into \windows\star menu\programs
2) in settings/button assignment, you have to reassign long press of phone button to this new link voicebtn.lnk and now is MSVC functional
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i even did not get so far.
I tried to install 1.6 build 17913 on TLR Rom, though it gave this "unrecoverable error" again.
Rebooting resulted in a brick when tapping "settings" which forced a hard reset again damned
Will stick a while to Cyberon Voice command, though I liked MSVC better.

I have used MSVC_US_PPC 1.6.19209.bengalih.cab from pda4x.
No problem after setting Button1 to MSVC.

@ vphk
How did you make that link? Sorry neub

ceevee369 said:
i even did not get so far.
I tried to install 1.6 build 17913 on TLR Rom, though it gave this "unrecoverable error" again.
Rebooting resulted in a brick when tapping "settings" which forced a hard reset again damned
Will stick a while to Cyberon Voice command, though I liked MSVC better.
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I suppose I am not the only one with this exact problem......I hope someone can solve this...

How to open websites in opera using voice command
I'm running a german version of MSVC v1.60.46220 and it's running very smooth. I read the tutorials and configured it to meet my needs. Now I want to open websites with opera using a simple command like "Start xda-developers". To do this I created a link (.url) in a subfolder of programs. This works with Pocket IE. To open the site in opera I changed the file association for the extension .url to \windows\OperaL.exe "%1%. Now opera starts but the home screen appears instead of the site that is linked. help appreciated

I cant get the talking ringtone to work on my diamond.
I adjusted the settings so it should work without an headset.
Do you have to adjust the ringtone somewhere?

Officer21 said:
@ vphk
How did you make that link? Sorry neub
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to create the link mentionned by rxdoctor in post #4 :
1 - from your PC, go to \program files\voice comand on your pda (via Active Sync connection), create a shortcut here (like you would do for a file on your PC)
2- move this shortcut to \Windows\start menu\Programs on the pda
Then the name of this shortcut appears in the drop down list of programs you can assign to the button.
Now I have MS voice command working fine

Pocket Player "Notification Error"

Hi all,
My P4350 is showing the Notification Error for every now and then. It says "Cannot execute\Application Data\Volatile\pockeplayer wakeup.exe"
The Conduit Pocket Player had no problem. Once my friend took the phone to listen to the music. After the phone came back to me this error is appearing.
I uninstalled the application. But, still the notification persists.!!!
Help me.

Hi all,
I uninstalled the application and reinstalled. But, the error still pops-up every now and then.
There is nothing in that path, which the error notification shows.
Is this a virus? Do I have to change any registry?
Please help me.

Any solution?
Hi,
I may sound that I am in hurry to get a solution ofr the problem.
In mean time, I renamed the S2U2 as pocketplayerwakeup.exe and saved that into \Application Data\Volatile\
May sound crazy!!!!!!
So that, if the phone wants to do something, let it lock the keys. So, now I am not getting the Error message.
But, still is there any solution for this?

error again
The error appeared again on today. i was surprised to see that, the duplicate copy what I created was not there. Don't know how that file was deleted. I again created the file.
Is there a solution to this? (Apart from flashing the ROM).

Whenever I connect the phone to computer, it is deleting the duplicate file what I created.
So, whenever I unplug it from computer, I again start getting the same error notification.

It looks like some background services tried to execute that path. Here is my appoarch, but be caution, if you are not familiar with the registry, please make a backup before editing anything.
First check if no "weird" stuffs is in the "\windows\startup" folder, then check if that path or file is refered to in the \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Init and \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services of the Registry and delete them. If still nothting there, make a complete search of the registry to see any reference to that file and delete it (it's ok since you already uninstall the program). Hope this help.

I am even more dumb when it comes to registry. (I can modify something if the name of the particular key is given.)
I could find the follwing thing in Windows/Startup
Capnotify.lnk
poutlook.lnk
WifInit.lnk
sddaemon.lnk
iLock2.lnk
WkTASK.lnk
GPRSNotify.LNK
Among these I don't know what does Capnotify.lnk and sddaemon.lnk do. I don't even know how to find the registry key which it referes to.

raghu13uk said:
Among these I don't know what does Capnotify.lnk and sddaemon.lnk do. I don't even know how to find the registry key which it referes to.
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Try PHM Registry editor. Do a search with "pocketplayer" or "wakeup.exe".

No success
I finally installed PHM registry editor. But, did not find anything for wakeup.exe
What to do?