Hi there,
Can anyone please assist?
Whenever I select a phone Band of WCDMA and am operating on HSDPA [H], my Touch Diamond which is on Hutchison 3's Network, has very poor reception whenever indoors and has lots of call dropouts. The phone shows just the dot below the Antenna Icon or just one bar to the right, most of the time while on HSDPA.
Whenever I select a phone Band of GSM, and the phone switches to an Edge connection [E] then I have nearly full signal strength, but this is considered "Roaming" off my network service provider and therefore is much more expensive to use. (What a scam!).
I have tried installing several radio ROM's but it has not made any difference to the signal strength and dropout problems. The Radio ROMs tried so far:
1.09.25.23 Official (Quad Band)(52.51.25.26H)
1.08.25.20 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24H)
1.08.25.08 Official (Quad Band)(52.44.25.24U)
1.00.25.BS14 Official (Quad Band)
1.00.25.06
The phone has had this problem with HSDPA signals since I purchased it.
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
Any guidance here is appreciated.
Thanks,
nanohaxor
HTC Touch Diamond (Telstra branded phone)
ROM: 1.93.861.4 WWE
Radio: 1.05.25.BS14
Network: Hutchison 3 Australia
DIAM130 MFG 64M
SPL-1.40.OliNex
nanohaxor said:
My questions are:
1. Have other people experienced this kind of issue and is poor reception indoors normal when on HSDPA [H]?
2. Is there a way to force a Touch Diamond, say through a registry hack, to use a Band of WCDMA but stay on [3G] instead of using [H] ?
3. Is it more likely that my phone is a good candidate for a warranty return as perhaps the antenna is dodgy?
4. Are there any other suggestions I can try to fix this problem?
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I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.
Riker88 said:
I love my Diamond and think that it is one of the best PDAs I have used. Its small size is just perfect for me, and I find other phones eg iPhone, Touch HD too big for me as a phone. I have customised it to the extent that I get no lag issues and it runs really fast.
The one flaw which I haven't been able to fix is its poor 3G/HSDPA reception compared to other phones like my previous Nokia. (The iPhone suffers from this problem also).
You obviously live or work in a poor 3G reception area for Three. When your phone switches from 3G to GSM, it will invariably drop the call if you are on a call. If the 3G reception is strong, indoors or outdoors, there will be no problems. 3G reception can fluctuate especially indoors. I dont think there is any fault with your phone.
Your options are to:
1) Change mobile phone provider
2) Force the phone to use GSM in low 3G signal areas and you will have no problems with call drop outs. There is no extra cost for roaming in GSM with Three for calls, only for data.
I use option 2, since I use WI-FI in the house for all my data needs. The easiest way to do this is to use Comm Manager, under Settings, Phone, Band, and then select GSM in 'Network Type' to force it to use GSM, or WCDMA to force it to use 3G/HSDPA. The other option is Auto, which is the cause of the problem. I use a hack which enables a '3G' toggle in Comm Manager so that I can change from 3G to GSM with the simple touch of a button.
You will also find that the battery life of the Diamond is really poor when it has to constantly change from 3G to GSM and vice versa. On the other hand, forcing it to use GSM and only switching on 3G when you use data, will actually prolong the battery life. I get up to 2+ days battery life when using GSM only.
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Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor
nanohaxor said:
Riker88, appreciate your comments and feedback. Thanks.
I tried my 3 SIM in another Touch Diamond and found the problem with poor HSDPA reception on Hutchison 3 was exactly the same on the other phone. This likely means it's the provider, or phone + provider combination. In either case, darn it !!
I generally operate with the phone band selection on WCDMA, rather than GSM or Auto. I noticed yesterday while driving around the city that my phone switched from the HSDPA (ie. 3.5G) service with the [H] icon on the screen to the 3G (ie. 3.0G) service with the [3G] icon on the screen, and the [3G] service signal was stronger. What I'm wondering is this:
Is there a way to force the Touch Diamond to use [3G] all the time, instead of [H]?
nanohaxor
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From my understanding, you should get same radio signal strength no matter it is 3G or HSDPA enabled. Your observation may be your original signal (with HSDPA) is too weak and hand-over to another radio station that have stronger signal but no hsdpa.
I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa.
snufkin wrote:
"I also notice that the 3G reception capability of diamond is weak. But this is nothing dealing with hsdpa. "
From what i've seen - that's true. (i have the same problem).
Ok, so I love 3g and leave it on all the time. But sometimes I'm in areas of low coverage where my text messages won't send, yet it doesn't switch to 2g. Is there any way I can control/set a signal strength threshold for switching to 2g?
Regards
Smith
Sent from serendipity aka awesome rom
I just installed Cyanogen 7 on my Nexus One, and couldn't be more pleased. The problem is, my phone now switches into Edge mode for days at a time, for no real quantifiable reason. It then seems to switch on its own, back to 3G/HSDPA. Does anyone know what could be wrong? I've tried rebooting the phone to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
What's the signal level or the area that you're in? Could it have anything to do with coverage?
There's an option in the mobile networks settings to toggle between 2G/3G, but I'm not aware of it being set by itself. This toggle button can be placed into the notification power widget toolbar, maybe it's getting set there?
Another thing to look at is the 'Phone info' with the *#*#4636#*#* menu. Near the bottom there's a drop-down for 'preferred network type'. From what I understand, 'WCDMA preferred' will try to use 3G if it is available with a lower signal threshold than 'GSM auto (PRL)', which will prefer 2G unless the signal for 3G is much better. I know that this value changed when I toggled between 2G and 3G with the notification power widget.
Is there a pattern to when it switches between 3G and Edge, either based on time or location? How is the signal/coverage in your area?
I live in downtown Chicago, and consistently got 3G before this. I don't think it's a signal issue as it randomly comes back to 3G/HSDPA and stays there in the same areas before going back and sticking on Edge.
I'm set to WCDMA preferred. Should I change that?
There seems to be no pattern, no. It's very strange.
Hi all,
TL;DR: Does anyone have issues with lots of reception loss in areas with less-than-stellar signal on the I9305 (LTE or 3G or GSM)?
Tomorrow, I want to take my S3 to Vodacom (my carrier in South Africa) so that they will hopefully check the thing and fix / replace it.
The problem I'm having is that my signal drops ( (/) "No Access" sign at the top where the signal strength should be) whenever I'm in a low signal area while others have continuous signal (my partner with his I9300 will still be able to make calls).
I've tested with and without LTE on (LTE is spotty everywhere), on 3G (set it to WCDMA Preferred in one of the secret menu's), or GSM/2G (both via the secret menu and the normal one). There are places where I can put my hand over the back of the phone and within 5 seconds, the signal will disappear completely, until I take my hand away.
For reference, I use No Signal Alert to notify me, mostly because when I got my phone, the bad LTE reception caused frequent radio hangs, which would leave my phone without signal until I checked (hours) later, which forced me to switch to "WCDMA Preferred".
Cheers,
LV
Anyone with Android 6.0 experience this issue?
So, when the phone enters an area with weak 3G signal, it will go to 2G (GPRS).
This is normal behavior.
Then, when the phone enters an area with strong 3G signal, it will go back to 3G.
This is also normal behavior.
Except, the restored 3G connection is weak. The icon shows with "no signal bar". It is connected to 3G though.
And it will stay like this until I recycle the connection by going to airplane mode and turn-off airplane mode.
My device is Nexus 6, international model. I installed Android 6.0 by flashing the image.
It is not rooted though and it doesn't have much apps.
And yes, I can reproduce this issue every time, as I know exactly the weak 3G area in our building.
Thanks.