Hi,
My home is obviously just on the fringes of the 3G reception. My Vario3 still shows 3G but only has a dot under the signal strength icon and no bars. When I get a call it is almost immediately cut off or very broken. I can manually switch it back to GSM and get 3+ bars and calls are fine but I bkeep forgetting to switch it back to "auto" at work, etc. Is there anyway to control at what signal strength the Vario should switchover (fall back?) from 3G to GSM in "auto" mode? Many thanks for any input
Is there a way to disable GPRS data WITHOUT disabling HSDPA?
(I see the reverse is possible - you can disable HSDPA from [Settings > Connections] and still do GPRS.)
I have three X series and do not want to get roaming data fees. For those uinfamiliar with threes plans, the HSDPA is very cheap but when you frequently and un noticed roam off their network onto GPRS you slugged with large roaming fees.
Ideally I need plain GPRS data always blocked unless I over ride it and at the same time HSDPA always enabled.
Anyone seen a way to do this. I am aware of Modaco "No Data" but it does not fit the bill for what I want.
Yes, indeed there is. Your post prompted me to figure it out. while I don't get hit with roaming or charges for jumping on edge or GPRS, I do really like the 3G service I have and my house is covered. Usually though it's when I'm driving and listening to internet radio or something, It'll jump onto GPRS/EDGE and the buffer will underrun, not great.
So... your question caused me to figure it out.
It's actually in the phone menu however, if you don't have it setup you have to enable this particular tab.
Real Simple Method:
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Phone
Click the band tab, set network type to WCDMA and leave GSM/UMTS to Auto(don't change this otherwise you'll cripple your phone's ability to tower hop.)
IF you don't have this tab here's how you enable it in the registry.
Either manually edit your registry and navigate to HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and change ShowUMTSBandPage to "1"
Or just import my included registry file to enable that tab. Soft-reset for fun and voila. I've done this tweak now and now my phone stays on 3g even when the GPRS signal is far better. I'm quite happy with this setup.
Enjoy
On a stock Tilt, even if that reg key is set to 1, it still does not show the Band tab.
Vexamus. No this it not a solution for me as it changes both Voice AND Data. Making the switch you recommend, kills my voice capability as I am currently roaming. I need to be able to make calls when roaming outside of my home WCDMA network. It is only Data that I want to restrict.
Furthermore having done this, when I set the phone network back to Auto to restore voice, I could not get any sort of connection to re establish. Data or Voice - nada. Even after powering the phone and device on and off!
To fix this I went to the lower GSM/UMTS band box and as I know I am roaming right now, set it to away from Auto to the first GSM option. This allowed the connection to re establish then I set it back to Auto and all is OK again.
So if anyone else sets their network type away from Auto while roaming you may need to toggle your GSM/UMTS band settings to get things back. Once back you can set both to Auto.
ammended Q.
Is there a way to disable GPRS DATA without disabling HSDPA and at the same time without effecting phone/voice roaming?
I am interested in this too
logger said:
Vexamus. No this it not a solution for me as it changes both Voice AND Data. Making the switch you recommend, kills my voice capability as I am currently roaming. I need to be able to make calls when roaming outside of my home WCDMA network. It is only Data that I want to restrict.
Furthermore having done this, when I set the phone network back to Auto to restore voice, I could not get any sort of connection to re establish. Data or Voice - nada. Even after powering the phone and device on and off!
To fix this I went to the lower GSM/UMTS band box and as I know I am roaming right now, set it to away from Auto to the first GSM option. This allowed the connection to re establish then I set it back to Auto and all is OK again.
So if anyone else sets their network type away from Auto while roaming you may need to toggle your GSM/UMTS band settings to get things back. Once back you can set both to Auto.
ammended Q.
Is there a way to disable GPRS DATA without disabling HSDPA and at the same time without effecting phone/voice roaming?
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Sorry that didn't work out for you, mate.
I don't have that roaming problem, I have UMTS coverage everywhere I go so no biggie. And I've been flipping the setting back and forth all day and never had any issue with not being able to reconnect. I'll keep researching it.
Lidberg said:
On a stock Tilt, even if that reg key is set to 1, it still does not show the Band tab.
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I don't think that setting the band is possible with an AT&T rom; moreover, I think it also has to do with the radio version.
I'm wondering if there is a way to set the phone to only use 3g and not hit edge. ATT has ran fiber to the towers where i live and the signals have jumped up about 30%. but for some reason since Edge hits 4-5 bars it jumpbs back and forth. 3g i can get 2-3 bars which is still faster than the 5 bars of edge. is there any way to set it to only use 3g?
Samsung Captivate
Rooted.
ota'd update 2.1update1
nothing else done or added as far as that.
In general your phone will ALWAYS try to grab 3G if the signal is stable enough to support the connection.
However, I know some people use this method to lock their phone to 2G until they manually tell it to switch to 3G, though I'm not sure if it will work in reverse since the phone will generally downgrade to next best as soon as it loses stable 3G, this might not BIND it to 3G, but I suppose it's worth a shot:
Use your phone dialer and dial in *#*#197328640#*#* Click [1] Debug Screen then [8] Phone Control then [4] UE State Control and choose [2] Change RAT to WCDMA. You might have to give it a minute or two to negotiate the connection.
This option isn't super practical though, you'll have to reenter it everytime you reboot, and if it works the way you want it to work you'll be stuck doing the same procedure to change it to GSM if your network drops below 3G quality. My suggestion is to leave it alone and hope that AT&T upgrades your 3G coverage to acceptable levels =/
I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
Wondering the same thing myself...
Does anyone knows the answer?
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I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
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I am not certain about this (i use rogers), but i believe that telus has no 2G (edge) network. They built a 3G only network just in time for the olympics to replace their cdma network:
So the toggler probably cant find a valid connection and retries 3G.
Manual mode cant find a network at all.
On rogers, i can fallback to 2g. This is normal according to what i think i know.
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thanks for the info.
That's what I thought so have given up on the idea of getting 2g to work
I guess when it comes to 3g and saving battery life, juice defender will have to do as it can turn off data when the screen is off but still have the phone working.
Well, I think I made some progress with this.
On my phone, I was also loosing the connection when switching from 3G to 2G but it's working now. I can get calls, it's only the data aver 2G that doesn't work now.
I have the Cronos rom on my phone, I can tell you what I did if you're interested.
Yes please do.
If it works on cm6 then at least I can also save juice by not using juice defender... oh the irony... lol
edit: hey look at all them Canadian flags, eh?!
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Took me a lot of time to find the right switches combination.
Anyway, I have Toggle 2G auto managing the 2G/3G and for the bottom 2 options:
2G network: WCDMA preferred (3G/2G)
3G network: GSM auto (PRL)(2G/3G)
If I check under Setting/About/Phone/Status, I see written mobile network type UMTS.
Hmm... I had those 2 settings reversed when using toggly2g
I will try that.
Right now, my mobile network type shows up as HSPA.
Your post prompted me to find the difference and came up with these 2 useful pages just before my head exploded.
Awesome thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1600012-HSPA-vs.-UMTS
Handy chart at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
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Well, I think I made some progress with this.
On my phone, I was also loosing the connection when switching from 3G to 2G but it's working now. I can get calls, it's only the data aver 2G that doesn't work now.
I have the Cronos rom on my phone, I can tell you what I did if you're interested.
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Is this not the same then as just shutting off data?
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Is this not the same then as just shutting off data?
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Not sure but I don't think so. You can turn off the data but have the phone connected to the 3G network, right?
I think you could get data over 2G but it's just very slow, right?
With Telus I don't think they allow data over 2G.
zeppelinrox, I wonder why yours shows like this, what do you have active under those settings?
What ROMs are you guys using?
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Hmm... I had those 2 settings reversed when using toggly2g
I will try that.
Right now, my mobile network type shows up as HSPA.
Your post prompted me to find the difference and came up with these 2 useful pages just before my head exploded.
Awesome thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1600012-HSPA-vs.-UMTS
Handy chart at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
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When I'm on 2G it shows as UMTS
With 3G (mobile data enabled) I see it alternating from 3G/UMTS to H/HSPA.
I'm on CM6.
My phone always shows HSPA except if I set it to use 2G then it shows GPRS - which is when I have no data and no phone signal.
I did use the Telus baseband file in AOR though... I wonder how it will behave if I use the Canada baseband....
Also, here's a neat trick....
dial *#*#4636#*#*
A Testing App will show up....
Select Phone Information and then goto the bottom.
You can set your preferred Network type.
Ok so that listbox shows all the different options.
The only options that will save are:
GSM only (2g - I get nothing - shows as GPRS)
WCDMA only (3g - shows as HSPA)
GSM auto (PRL) - (3g - shows as HSPA as well)
All the other options either are not selectable or just revert back to GSM auto (as is the case with WCDMA preferred)
I just did a few speed tests and I seem to get faster speeds with GSM auto than I do with WCDMA only
Gonna try that Canada baseband now....
Edit: Same thing. Except the speed test is slower for both WCDMA and GSM autio so best off using the Telus baseband.
The dial trick doesn't work. I dial the sequence as a phone number, right?
It disappears then nothing changes.
ah.. yeah sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries...
do you use adw launcher?
If so, you can actually create a shortcut for it... I figured it out today.
1 Press and hold on homescreen and select Custom shortcut
2 Press "Pick your activity"
3 Select the second item on the list ie. Activities (with the ADW icon)
4 Wait for all stuff to load, scroll down to Settings, and press the arrow next to it to see the long list of activites that Settings.apk can do.
5 Scroll down near the end of the list, you will see Testing(.TestingSettings)
6. Select that and press OK on the next window.
I also made one for Battery History, which is actually part of the Testing app but is usually only accessible through Spare Parts.
I still can't get the trick to work... doesn't do anything on my phone
Right now I'm on the 2501 rom (latest 2.2.1 from Motorola) and I can say it's the best I've tested so far!
Outstanding battery life!
I found another way to run Testing App.
With Google gesture search you can set it to launch Settings actions
Let it scan and then write "testing" on the screen
Edit: oh crap I mistyped the code.
Its *#*#4636#*#*
I had 4536 before so I fixed it
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zeppelinrox said:
I'm currently using CM 6.1.2 on my Milestone.
If I switch to 2G mode in the mobile network settings, I have no connection.
If I use the Toggle 2G app, it doesn't seem to really do anything. If I set 2G to use one of the options that don't disconnect me (WCDMA, CDMA or GSM 2g/3g) it still shows 3G in the status bar so I'm not sure what the point is in using the Toggle 2G app.
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Well, after doing some more tests and trying different apps (2G/3G switchers) I can say those apps work only if your cell phone company has both 2G/3G network.
In Montreal, only Rogers has both.
Easy to test (btw: I'm using the FroyoMOD rom): go in "Settings" -> "Wireless & Networks" -> "Mobile Network Settings" and check "Use only 2G networks".
See if your cell phone company is listed when you do a search under "Network Operators". If it's not, don't bother using a 2G/3G switcher.
When doing this, in Montreal I see only Rogers listed. If I uncheck "Use only 2G networks" I see all 3 of them: Bell, Telus and Rogers.
Hope this helps!
Guys I have an odd problem.
Where I live, the signal on the HTC One switches erratically and constantly between H+, H and 3G. At every switch of course the data connection goes offline. It's driving me crazy.
Is there a way to force the phone to one of the three: 3G or H or H+?
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I've tried going into *#*#4636#*#* but the choices baffle me (see image 02). I've tried a few of the available choices but it seems that 3G, H and H+ fall into the same category.
It's probably a dead end, I can't imagine what else to do ..... has anyone else had the same issue?
The 3G logo means it's on voice only, and H+/H means there's data incoming/outgoing. They're using the same radios and frequencies, it's more like an idle state when it shows 3G. 3G will still periodically go up to H+/H to check for any incoming data then goes back to sleep at 3G.
I have the same problem with my connexion. It is only stable when I have the "3G" symbol. I did not find a way to force "3G". It seems the switch to "H" is on demand...
mrechte said:
I have the same problem with my connexion. It is only stable when I have the "3G" symbol. I did not find a way to force "3G". It seems the switch to "H" is on demand...
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It's normal behaviour, if you have a good H connection it will switch to this when there is data traffic but when there isn't it will switch between 3G and H