Is there a way to disable GPRS data WITHOUT disabling HSDPA?
(I see the reverse is possible - you can disable HSDPA from [Settings > Connections] and still do GPRS.)
I have three X series and do not want to get roaming data fees. For those uinfamiliar with threes plans, the HSDPA is very cheap but when you frequently and un noticed roam off their network onto GPRS you slugged with large roaming fees.
Ideally I need plain GPRS data always blocked unless I over ride it and at the same time HSDPA always enabled.
Anyone seen a way to do this. I am aware of Modaco "No Data" but it does not fit the bill for what I want.
Yes, indeed there is. Your post prompted me to figure it out. while I don't get hit with roaming or charges for jumping on edge or GPRS, I do really like the 3G service I have and my house is covered. Usually though it's when I'm driving and listening to internet radio or something, It'll jump onto GPRS/EDGE and the buffer will underrun, not great.
So... your question caused me to figure it out.
It's actually in the phone menu however, if you don't have it setup you have to enable this particular tab.
Real Simple Method:
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Phone
Click the band tab, set network type to WCDMA and leave GSM/UMTS to Auto(don't change this otherwise you'll cripple your phone's ability to tower hop.)
IF you don't have this tab here's how you enable it in the registry.
Either manually edit your registry and navigate to HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting and change ShowUMTSBandPage to "1"
Or just import my included registry file to enable that tab. Soft-reset for fun and voila. I've done this tweak now and now my phone stays on 3g even when the GPRS signal is far better. I'm quite happy with this setup.
Enjoy
On a stock Tilt, even if that reg key is set to 1, it still does not show the Band tab.
Vexamus. No this it not a solution for me as it changes both Voice AND Data. Making the switch you recommend, kills my voice capability as I am currently roaming. I need to be able to make calls when roaming outside of my home WCDMA network. It is only Data that I want to restrict.
Furthermore having done this, when I set the phone network back to Auto to restore voice, I could not get any sort of connection to re establish. Data or Voice - nada. Even after powering the phone and device on and off!
To fix this I went to the lower GSM/UMTS band box and as I know I am roaming right now, set it to away from Auto to the first GSM option. This allowed the connection to re establish then I set it back to Auto and all is OK again.
So if anyone else sets their network type away from Auto while roaming you may need to toggle your GSM/UMTS band settings to get things back. Once back you can set both to Auto.
ammended Q.
Is there a way to disable GPRS DATA without disabling HSDPA and at the same time without effecting phone/voice roaming?
I am interested in this too
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Vexamus. No this it not a solution for me as it changes both Voice AND Data. Making the switch you recommend, kills my voice capability as I am currently roaming. I need to be able to make calls when roaming outside of my home WCDMA network. It is only Data that I want to restrict.
Furthermore having done this, when I set the phone network back to Auto to restore voice, I could not get any sort of connection to re establish. Data or Voice - nada. Even after powering the phone and device on and off!
To fix this I went to the lower GSM/UMTS band box and as I know I am roaming right now, set it to away from Auto to the first GSM option. This allowed the connection to re establish then I set it back to Auto and all is OK again.
So if anyone else sets their network type away from Auto while roaming you may need to toggle your GSM/UMTS band settings to get things back. Once back you can set both to Auto.
ammended Q.
Is there a way to disable GPRS DATA without disabling HSDPA and at the same time without effecting phone/voice roaming?
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Sorry that didn't work out for you, mate.
I don't have that roaming problem, I have UMTS coverage everywhere I go so no biggie. And I've been flipping the setting back and forth all day and never had any issue with not being able to reconnect. I'll keep researching it.
Lidberg said:
On a stock Tilt, even if that reg key is set to 1, it still does not show the Band tab.
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I don't think that setting the band is possible with an AT&T rom; moreover, I think it also has to do with the radio version.
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I've had my Kaiser for 2 days now with no probs. Then today, a nightmare. I cannot make any calls longer than 10 secs. For some reason as soon as i make a call it shows the 3g logo then kicks the call, loses the network connection then gets it back. it also shows the E for edge Icon all the time and its this icon that changes to 3g during a call. It also has the triangle icon all the time, which is roaming. i sure as hell hope im not! all other functions in this device work like a charm-texting, gps, wifi- all work great. Im on fido in Vancouver. This is not a supported handset and so i get no help from them( i dont think the 20 year olds that man the tech lines have a clue anyway). I read that it may be due to an old sim card, is this likely? Any help would be appreciated, im at my wits end, and im starting to think of selling. Help!
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I dont care about data connection other than Wifi, since the data plans are a joke here. So i dont even want these features active.
Try to switch your phone to GSM only (under phone options/band)
Dag Gammit i think this may have done it! -crossing fingers and testing- will play around with this some more and see what happens. thanks for the suggestion.
Yes indeed ID64, has it right. It's not just this phone that tries to seek the strongest band around, but drops the call in the process.
Changing using settings to GSM only works, but you may be in situations where you want the other bands. You can use the same method to switch back, But you might want a nicer/quicker way using Danielherrero's Bandswitch or Commmgrpro application. He's a member here and you can search here or google. The early freeware version is around somewhere.
Mike
Fido and the roaming triangle
I wouldn't worry about the roaming thing, since all of the towers report as rogers since the network conversion.
Here in Winnipeg I'm always roaming and it has never been an issue. I'm even calling long distance (Calgary?) for voice mail.
I haven't tried it since have the all you can eat data plan for $50. but I vaguely recall seeing in the wizard forum that apparently you can get a cheap data plan through fido if you claim your phone is a HipTop. Worth a try if you want data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135200&postcount=6
hiptop
Umm, just out of curiosity, does the HipTop thing still work? and what is it exactly?
I am about to get a plan and this one sounds intriging..
I'm on Fido with a Tilt too, works flawlessly with my 8 year old sim card. I'm very interested in this Hip-Top data plan. Has anybody tried it yet? someone definatly should and let us know!
any way to get rid of the roaming notifications so we can enable automatic email downloading? feature will not work while roaming and my FIDO phone is always roaming on my home network. can't find a registry hack for the Kaiser for this.
Fido roaming and e-mail
I haven't found a way to turn off the roaming notification. However you can set up e-mail accounts to automatically download even when roaming. Obviously if you do really roam you will be charged mightily so I would use with caution.
for hotmail (windows live) it's option 5 in the options menu item
for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming
send/recieve schedule when roaming
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for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming
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My rom will not let me enable the automatic send/recieve when roaming without FIRST defining a send/recieve schedule. The schedule is inconveniant becuase i don't want the phone to stay on 3G connected 24hrs/day or my battery goes dead. I have it set to disconect 3G after 45 seconds but this only works if the phone is ON. When the phone is in sleep state it will leave the 3G on all the time so it opens up a whole other can of worms/problems. Does your rom let you enable this send/recieve while roaming option without first enabling a schedule? if so, which rom you using?
When I am on a 3G connection, I am not able to talk and send data at the same time. I thought one of the benefits of 3G was to be able to be on the phone and receive data. Is that not the case, or do I need to do something to enable 3G connections to work this way?
Should work out of the box for UMTS/HSDPA. For EVDO you need Rev.A.
Could be your provider has not fully upgraded their hardware yet, there are a few out there that can't handle it (yet). Also, automatic data disconnect tweak found in KaiserTweak and Schaps Advanced Config has as side effect that this disables simultaneous data and voice.
I'm going to Germany for a month and do not want to accrue any voice/data charges while I'm there. I plan to use wifi only. What's the best way to disable voice/data, but still use wifi? I also want to make sure that my apps do not try to establish a data connection outside of wifi. One idea I have is to keep the phone in "airplane" mode. But I'm concerned that if I reboot my phone it will kick itself out of airplane mode and start roaming.
Any suggestions?
change the APN settings to point to a non-exsistant server, cell interent wont work but wifi can be on and you can still make/receive calls and SMS if need be
I just got back from Europe, this worked wonders for me.
1. Go to Settings
2. Go to Wireless and Network Settings
3. Go to Mobile Networks
4. Uncheck the Data Roaming Option.
This will prevent your phone from using data while you are roaming.
@dcplaya I am also running on Cin Bell. Works great!
Or get a German SIM, that way you'll have data. If anybody calls you on your US number let them leave a voice mail on Google voice
stickerbob said:
I just got back from Europe, this worked wonders for me.
1. Go to Settings
2. Go to Wireless and Network Settings
3. Go to Mobile Networks
4. Uncheck the Data Roaming Option.
This will prevent your phone from using data while you are roaming.
@dcplaya I am also running on Cin Bell. Works great!
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I have a Nexus One in the UK and have so far taken it to the US, Switzerland, France, NZ and HK. The above definitely works and should be all you need to do. I just had a look at my online balance and can confirm the total on my data charges is £0.00. Note that you can leave this setting disabled the whole time, even when you're in your own country. The phone distinguishes between roaming and non-roaming and acts accordingly.
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change the APN settings to point to a non-exsistant server, cell interent wont work but wifi can be on and you can still make/receive calls and SMS if need be
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awesome thx - i came to post this exact question and bam, first thread.
I have a quite rare problem. I'm in Ireland and use 3 operator. It does not have coverage on many places and it has some kind of contract with o2, so whenever the signal it lost, phone automatically switches to o2. Problem is when I'm back in place with full 3 coverage again, WP does not switch back. I have to select network manually several times a day. It's very annoying. Is there an option somewhere in settings to disable roaming completely? I found it only for data but I need it for calls. Phone is Lumia 920.
Thanks
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...so whenever the signal it lost, phone automatically switches to o2.
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I imagine specifying your network provider as "3 IRELAND" or whatever it's called will stop it from connecting to O2? The setting is under Mobile Network (under the roaming options, at the bottom) and is set to "automatic" by default.
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I imagine specifying your network provider as "3 IRELAND" or whatever it's called will stop it from connecting to O2? The setting is under Mobile Network (under the roaming options, at the bottom) and is set to "automatic" by default.
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First thing I tried, but it did not help. Maybe problem is that the other network has same name - probably to ensure seamless switch. (it's actually Vodafone, sorry for my mistake: http://www.vodafone.ie/aboutus/media/press/show/BAU002953.shtml )
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Maybe problem is that the other network has same name - probably to ensure seamless switch.
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I'm not saying I'll be able to help, but could you elaborate a little on why roaming comes into this? Are you changing countries between two places where the operator is called "Vodafone"?
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I'm not saying I'll be able to help, but could you elaborate a little on why roaming comes into this? Are you changing countries between two places where the operator is called "Vodafone"?
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No I don't. It's actually a funny thing. I live in Dublin and yet you can find here many places without signal coverage. I think, but not exactly sure that 3 is the last operator who entered on a market here, so it does not have proper infrastructure and negotiated with Vodafone national roaming for places where native 3 signal is not available. In general it's not a big problem, you can make calls like in your home network, price is same, you can even see on your phone you are connected to 3 network but with a roaming. (because in fact you are connected to Vodafone)
I'm trying to disable roaming completely because mobile data on the roaming are just GPRS while in native 3, you got 3G.
It would not mind me if phone would automatically switch back on 3 when available. (when I had WP 7 it was doing like this) But now with WP8 the behavior seems to be changed and as soon as it enters the roaming it never reverts back to native network unless I manually select the 3network again.
I'm running xiaomi.eu 13.0.8.0 on my Note 10 Pro currently, though I'm not sure it matters for this.
When I have the Preferred network type set to "Prefer LTE" my phone locks onto LTE towers with a poor signal, typically around -117 to -123 dbm, ( > 2km away, 0-1 bars). Sometimes calls work, but often I get reports that people aren't able to call me, and if I make a call it may take several minutes of retrying before it finally switches to UMTS or GSM and the call goes through. There is a strong GSM signal close by, but it typically refuses to use it and prefers the unusable LTE signal instead.
Short of setting it to "2G only" is there any setting that would let the phone switch to a usable signal, when LTE is so bad?
VoWiFi might help in this case to get around the problem, but I haven't gotten that working, either.
reset phone settings. prefer it
redmi note 10 pro same device as yours and I know as I am facing another bug, same would U bcz firmware is latest I have debloated many apps from adb pm.... command.
A Bug I know exist most people wont know is about Cellular network Band. It adds jitter in connection.
And I have solution for that one but that require root. maybe not
But Trust me I know problem Thats it we can find solution
To know the problem, It is actual in band selection. If u check it and find a fix please share it here.
I am writing my fix here
---> Download app from Playstore called "Hidden Settings For Android" to see the problem.
---> now search "band"
U have to use little brain and see all three selections name.
---> FUN read this " Two system apps called System settings and Miui System settings have control over band selection. Right!
---> One open settings for band selection and other opens settings for band selection as same as we think but they are different apps and have different data storage settings they override each other if u select one band in one settings and two in another make both their selection buggy.
By default when i didnt found this I was experiencing bad network.
Then I selected same band on both settings and keep them open in background and by network run back to normal * more faster than other devices on same network provider
As soon as I remove both from background, later bug starts to happen again.
Interesting. I ended up getting vowifi working by contacting my service provider and asking them to enable it on my SIM. So I keep the phone in airplane mode with wifi enabled when I'm at home. That's working much better.
I did try "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile networks, and Bluetooth" before, several times, but it didn't seem to make a difference.