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I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
Drag and scroll.
Highlight and copy text
Save images
Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO
herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike
mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib
Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich
Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.
jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich
Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!
gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
??
jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB
opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?
gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)
stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.
opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com
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I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
Does opera support flash videos?
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?
There is something about me that doesn't like using Internet Explorer. On my phone (Sony Ericsson K850i) I use the Opera Mini 4 Beta browser and love the way that it renders sites and you can zoom in and out etc...
I installed Opera Mobile on my HTC hoping that it would be exactly the same as mini but I was very disappointed Not only does it not have the text for the soft keys but it doesn't accept touch screen inputs for pressing links and text boxes. Also you don't have the zoom in/out function so you have to see a fully rendered screen or and "everything on one column" rendering that cripples the content.
Is there a decent browser for Windows Mobile? What I am looking for is something that works exactly like Opera Mini but with more compatibility with flash etc...
Any ideas?
At the least I would like to be able to install Opera mini but it comes as a .jad file (Java Midlet?). Is there any way of installing these as my Kaiser doesn't know what to do with the file atm.
Thanks for any help
Oliver
There must be someone out there who uses a browser that they're happy with?
Is there a version of Opera that works with the touch screen?
Thanks
You don't have Java on your phone? Opera mini is free and it is a Java Midlet so you could try and see how you like it without spending any money. There is another free browser that I have called Minimo.
LINK to direct CAB download-- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It isint the perfect browser either but it does alot of what Opera does and lets you set it with preferences too. Give it a shot and see what you think. Don't like it just remove. I will look on my phone to see if I can extract the Java .exe for you.
I use netfront 3.3 its got better functions than PIE and its back and forward functions using your D-pad is very usefull. as for opera if you want it to scroll like opera mini just enable touch and grab on opera v8.65. it will select links as opera mini does it just wont zoom in like opera mini
Ceck out the articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
picsel browseris my fav. look around enough and you'll find it
Thanks for the replies!
I'll definitely have a look round for the browsers you mentioned.
I would much appreciate it if you could provide a Java app to enable Java on my phone too
BTW, I'm using Schap's latest ROM if that helps.
Im a bit confused here about the op. Am I the only person that has a copy of Opera Mobile that does everything that the op said it doesn,t do? Which version of Opera mobile did you try? I use O.M on my kaiser and everything you said it doesnt do, mine does.. Ive got touchscreen interactivity aswell as touch scrolling, i can zoom in and out, 3 can resize the screen format to desk top,just fit and one column. Im runing Opera mobile 8.65 for Windows Mobile Pocket PC. By anychance did you accidentily download the smartphone version?
As above - op must have downloaded opera instead of opera-mini...
I'm posting using o-m and must say it's one of the best if not best browser for the wm platform
WOW!
Just installed Picsel and I love it.
The GUI is a bit dodgy but that's cos it's designed for the clie but I love everything else.
Thanks
(Bit of an effort to find a download though)
Ah, I downloaded the Smartphone version. That's prob why I don't have the touch screen thingy.
BTW Subliminal, there is a difference between Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. Opera Mini is what I have on my Sony Ericsson k850i and I would have thought that Opera Mobile worked similarly. It does all the same things but not as smoothly as Opera Mini.
Opera Mini is for Java based phone apps. Opera Mobile is for WM platform.
Opera Mobile has more functions (I think?)
but one main difference is that Opera Mini is free whereas opera mobile isn't.
A direct shortcut can be created to launch opera mini without the need to load the java midlet first. A quick hex edit can skip the connection permissions and another quick tinker can allow direct links from emails to open in opera mini. Sounds more work than it is.
Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
I've just downloaded opera mini 4 and have installed it onto my phone.
I have one querey.......
when I was instaling it and when I first used it, it say
this program is connecting to .......port 1080...... requires airtime..... you maybe chaged.....
does this mean my phone isn't using the wifi connection when im running opera mini 4?
picsel browser???
here is the link for picselbrowser i just keep on posting it and be quick if you want it
posted it at rapidshare 4 times allready and it keeps getting removed somehow lol
http://rapidshare.com/files/73569495/Picsel_Browser.cab.html
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Ive just been checking out the Netfront v3.4 technical preview
https://www.access.co.jp/english/nfppc/agree_34.html
its alot better than v3.3 and has some very nice features. its got a similar zoom feature to opera mini4 its a scroll and zoom. plus the visual bookmark is nice also. I cant wait for it to go to retail I will be getting it. opera9 will be ready soon also but ive not seen a preview of it yet. from what ive read though its also going to be alot better than v8.65 and incorperate feature of mini opera4 like the page zooming
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I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
MonteCristoffOn said:
I'm also using netfront 3.4 since a little time. Very, very nice !
but... I can't use it with a wifi or USB connection (error : TCP connect...) ... Answer acces.co about that but no technical support on this version ;-(
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It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
dolbe said:
It must be something to do with your settings, Ive just tried it with usb and wifi and both connect fine. Infact it connects quicker with usb than it did with v3.3.
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Mmmm... don't reach the solution ;-( , even after modifying the browser settings. Always the same message...
"Cannot load page. Check that you are properly connected to the network. Type : TCP connect"
dolbe, can you give me your settings for this great browser ?
MS DeepFish is the best browser I've seen yet. It's in Beta for now though and has limitations. It's similar to Iphone's Safari - which is great.
Opera Mobile 9 will support zooming, just like Opera Mini. I asked Opera for a release date, but they won't say anything. It's supposed to be released "soon".
What is in your opinion the best browser (last version) for our Kaiser instead of Explorer.
I never tried Mozilla Minimo or Netfront...any feedback?
For quick n easy when on GPRS Opera Mini
If on 3G OR wifi then opera mobile.
I've tried the rest and these are the best IMHO
I've tried Minimo and found it absolutely useless. Was not impressed with Opera Mini, but Opera 8.65 is Impressive.
I've never tried Netfront but I would like to.
To be honest I'm not sure that these kinds of thread get us very far - and often lead to arguments.
The best advice is try them all yourself and lookup Menneisyys guides as he does a superbly dtailed round up of these.
Having said the above, I'll ignore it and say this:
Another vote for Opera Mini's latest version (very fast and actually a nice set of features and viewing options - great on the road) Free so you can have it anyway alongside any other browser
PIE is actually pretty decent IF you install the slow scroll fix CAB (without the CAB installed forget it)
I also use Opera Mobile. Actually I sometimes run bothe PIE and Opera mobilesimultaneously- there are some sites that just render better on some browsers than others and it's not always consistently the same browser. So that's my choice or rather my three.
Mike
Can you post that .cab here. (PIE slow scroll fix CAB) I can't seem to find it in a search.
Thanks!
mikechannon said:
To be honest I'm not sure that these kinds of thread get us very far - and often lead to arguments.
The best advice is try them all yourself and lookup Menneisyys guides as he does a superbly dtailed round up of these.
Having said the above, I'll ignore it and say this:
Another vote for Opera Mini's latest version (very fast and actually a nice set of features and viewing options - great on the road) Free so you can have it anyway alongside any other browser
PIE is actually pretty decent IF you install the slow scroll fix CAB (without the CAB installed forget it)
I also use Opera Mobile. Actually I sometimes run bothe PIE and Opera mobilesimultaneously- there are some sites that just render better on some browsers than others and it's not always consistently the same browser. So that's my choice or rather my three.
Mike
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Opera mini, no doubt!
zcink said:
Can you post that .cab here. (PIE slow scroll fix CAB) I can't seem to find it in a search.
Thanks!
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PIE Scroll Bug Fix for Kaiser_Tilt
Mike
Got it -- Thanks!
honestly i have found opera mini the abs. best hands down..the only thing i can say that it should add is a way to have more than one window. but thats it.
Another vote for Opera Mini. Don't forget to read my related tips & tricks, which make it MUCH easier to use - for example, the invocation hack. See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
zcink said:
I've tried Minimo and found it absolutely useless. Was not impressed with Opera Mini
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Try it with Jbed, using the hacks & shortcuts I've developed and/or explained in my Bibles. With them, OMini is WAY better than without.
zcink said:
I've never tried Netfront but I would like to.
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You didn't lose much - OMini and/or Opera Mobile / IEM with a decent plug-in (PIEPlus + Flash + CrEme for Java) is WAY bettter.
Could you send a link to your bible ? Thanks
Ok I found it http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?cat=168
Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.
cp_kirkley said:
Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.
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There was me thinking I was the only one using "Picsel Browser"
I'm looking for some tabbed browser, I'm currently using ANB Web Viewer, but want something better
Any hints?
ratcom said:
There was me thinking I was the only one using "Picsel Browser"
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I know were in the minority for sure, hehe. Cant tell you how many times a WM user has asked what browser i was using and where they could find it!
cp_kirkley said:
Picsel Browser pwns Opera Mini IMO. I split time between Picsel and Opera 8.65.
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Let me disagree - if you know the right hacks/ shortcuts, Opera Mini is by far the easiest to use. Particularly now with the bookmark sync features between your mobile device(s) and desktop browser(s) - it REALLY rules!
I use PIEPlus
opera mini by far
Good afternoon,
Now, before I get flamed I have done a search and seen numerous threads on this topic however I would like to get an updated set of views.
I have a TyTn II and I'm looking for a good browser to use with my devise. So far i've been using Explorer (heh) and Opera 9.5 from the Diamond build.
Explorer does not format pages anywhere near impressive and Opera 9.5 is such a memory hog it's not even funny, slows down my devise something rottern most of the time.
I want a browser which is similar to the 9.5 formatting (looks good) but does not completely rape the performance of the devise.. any imput?
i use netfront, i new opera has too much stuff to configure so i used to to just stick with opera 8.65 and pie plus until i found netfront which replaced opera for me.
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
dyetheskin said:
i use netfront, i new opera has too much stuff to configure so i used to to just stick with opera 8.65 and pie plus until i found netfront which replaced opera for me.
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Netfront for me too. I find it handles any memory issues better if you install it on the SD card if you have the option.
Rob
NetFront downloading @ 1/2 speed of PIE
rfarnell said:
Netfront for me too. I find it handles any memory issues better if you install it on the SD card if you have the option.
Rob
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I am trying NetFront and love it but it only downloads at about 1/2 the speed of PIE. PIE 768K NF 325K using
http://test.dslreports.com/mspeed . What am I doing wrong?
strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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agreed, the best Ive found so far ..
strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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For the overly paranoid, Opera Mini and SkyFire have everything rendered and the pushed to you through their own servers. It gives you quicker page loads, at the risk of having your passwords stored on a random server somewhere.
I've found this version of Opera Mobile 9.5 to be pretty solid.
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For the overly paranoid, Opera Mini and SkyFire have everything rendered and the pushed to you through their own servers. It gives you quicker page loads, at the risk of having your passwords stored on a random server somewhere.
I've found this version of Opera Mobile 9.5 to be pretty solid.
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defently skyfire, can't download anything though so opera mini, i also keep opera around there is a new version floating around here on xda that has flash enabled but still can't handle video streaming (why skyfire is a must for me)
I'll second Opera Mobile 9.5. It has been by far the best browser for me; with a few fixes in the next release (hopefully official), i can't see another browser standing in its way.
On a sidenote, whatever happened to DeepFish by Microsoft?
none b4 and none to come
SKYFIRE IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
strikeone said:
Opera Mini 4.1 FTW - simple, easy to use, little configuration, fast load times.
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+1. Although I do use Skyfire when some pages don't come out right in OM. I only use PIE when I have to (mostly just for LogMeIn).
I have encountered the annoying browser glitch with text box's. And in my search for stable browsers, I have found a few results. Aside from the awesome Opera Mobile, I have found these to work rather nicely:
Ninesky Browser:
I haven't played around with this one too much, I only really checked to make sure it didn't crash. But the layout is nice enough, not too cluttered.
Maxthon Mobile Browser:
This one was the only one so far that allowed me to utilize FimFiction.net's archive search. Opera Mobile and others would either refuse to load or crash the browser. This browser also has an interesting active gesture system, which allows you to temporarily see the result of your finger swipes. However I find this to be more of a pain, as it is hard to always get the browser to move around when it is interpreting every swipe I make. I also couldn't figure out a way to zoom in and out.
Browsers I have found to either crash or not work very well at this time are: Miren, Dolphin, Boat, Bolt, xScope, and Skyfire.
That is the scope of my search so far. If anyone knows of any other stable browsers, I would be happy to learn about them .
I'm using opera mini. Worked fine. Tried several others, with poor results. Dolphin almost made it, but the url bar does not work (can't type your own url, only coming from search or another site)
hi,
the dolphin HD or dolphin mini browser crashed? I would like use the dolphin mini, it's possible and stable?
thank you
Both had problem at the url bar, and both had some minor crashes. Doesn't look that good anyway. Opera mini still rules.
Probably any browser based or that uses the default webkit will not work.
text only browser
hi,
text only browser work on nook?
ex: market.android.com/details?id=com.spacenext.textonly
like kindle article mode.
thank you
Opera works great for me.
I finaly found a browser that can use volume keys to scroll and (so far) seems stable. It's called Galapagos browser. Doesnt compare very good to Opera otherwise, but scrolling with keys is a big help on eink screen.
xScope
I use xScope Pro ($2.99, lite version available). You can use the volume keys to scroll (remapped my side buttons on the NST), change the standard font size to be bigger and change the theme to an all black one. Only problem I've had so far is logging into reddit.com causes it to crash for whatever reason. I think it's permission related, going to poke around on the command line later.
tiborq said:
hi,
text only browser work on nook?
ex: market.android.com/details?id=com.spacenext.textonly
like kindle article mode.
thank you
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yes it works fine
I've tried several browsers but only opera mini made it, it has poor scrolling but after a while you get used to it
Sent from my NOOK STR using XDA
"Exsoul Browser" seems to be working fine.
EDIT : It does not =_=. Sorry for useless post.
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Opera works great for me.
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Opera mini, and or opera mobile. Also, they can be configured for high contrast browsing. (editing global CSS file)
I've been having the best luck with Opera Mini. Pages load very, very fast, and scrolling is remarkably responsive if you turn on NoRefresh Toggle.
I had high hopes for Dolphin Mini, but it doesn't seem very happy on the Touch.
aaronwe said:
I had high hopes for Dolphin Mini, but it doesn't seem very happy on the Touch.
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B&N (intentionally?) broke webkit on the Nook, so yeah, Dolphin won't work.
"Maxthon Mobile Browser For Android"
seems to be working more than fine + it plays Flash animation with the plugin installed.
EDIT:
Probably the best replacement for Opera Mobile there is.
osowiecki said:
"Maxthon Mobile Browser For Android"
seems to be working more than fine + it plays Flash animation with the plugin installed.
EDIT:
Probably the best replacement for Opera Mobile there is.
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But can it use a user defined CSS file, for high contrast browsing?
Nope.
In Maxthon you can use the "WAP mode" to remove all of the pages formatting thus creating a high contrast site.
You can also turn on a "negative mode" to inverse all of the colors.
This NoRefresh makes me quite happy with the achieved contrast.
Opera "New" 7.0
I tried the Opera "New". It only crashes, so I'm reluctant to upgrade Opera mini 6.something.
Update "New" to 7.0.1 also crashes on launch.
brendan10211 said:
Opera mini, and or opera mobile. Also, they can be configured for high contrast browsing. (editing global CSS file)
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I would like to know how to set up the user css. Couldn't find any mention of it for the mobile versions, only full version.
stephen.george.west said:
I tried the Opera "New". It only crashes, so I'm reluctant to upgrade Opera mini 6.something.
Update "New" to 7.0.1 also crashes on launch.
I would like to know how to set up the user css. Couldn't find any mention of it for the mobile versions, only full version.
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This thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360624&highlight=css
works for Opera Mobile 12