1600mAh Kaiser battery - Same size as OEM 1350mAh - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I found a 1600mah battery here that is supposedly the same size as the OEM 1350mah one.
Think this is legit? Or will it damage my kaiser/stop holding a charge after a month?
The specs all match up with OEM Kaiser battery..
3.7V, for Device Part # KAIS160...
Thoughts?

wooooooowwwwwww, great great news!, 20% more capacity, 20% more battery life, same size!!!!!
It'll be a great improvement!!!!

wow, good find. can someone guinea pig this and tell us the results of testing?!

I hope that is legit.

This looks a little suspicious. In one spot it says 1500mAh, right under that it says 1600....

Seems that the Ebay auctions in the first post were either pulled or won. I found another seller of these batteries:
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/produ...5&PHP5SESSID=d68508edf8d44f796faf7235447a6153
I might get one and if I do, I'll most certainly post my results!

dweinstock said:
Seems that the Ebay auctions in the first post were either pulled or won. I found another seller of these batteries:
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/produ...5&PHP5SESSID=d68508edf8d44f796faf7235447a6153
I might get one and if I do, I'll most certainly post my results!
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That's probably because I bought it yesterday. I'm exited to try it out because mye battery lasts about a day. Mugen power batteries will have some batteries for Kaiser, but no release date yet. They have announced three types, but no specs are listed.

Stian216 said:
That's probably because I bought it yesterday. I'm exited to try it out because mye battery lasts about a day. Mugen power batteries will have some batteries for Kaiser, but no release date yet. They have announced three types, but no specs are listed.
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I hope you can test it soon!, my kaiser battery last 1 day.... ONLY, I'll buy one of that batteries if they can extend life for the claimed 20%

wow that's great news to the already good battery life

FlyEvolution said:
I found a 1600mah battery here that is supposedly the same size as the OEM 1350mah one.
Think this is legit? Or will it damage my kaiser/stop holding a charge after a month?
The specs all match up with OEM Kaiser battery..
3.7V, for Device Part # KAIS160...
Thoughts?
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Better way to find the eBay batteries.
Once someone gets a hold of one of these, make sure to let us know!
(The 1500mAh in one of the auctions is probably just a typo. All the actual battery photos say 1600.)

pepeto2001 said:
20% more capacity, 20% more battery life, same size!!!!!
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Personally, I tend to be a bit skeptical of 3rd party battery capacity claims that seem to easily be able to squeeze more life into the same space. In most real world tests I've seen, mAh ratings don't seem to mean a whole lot. Not saying it's not better, but I wouldn't expect any miracles.

I had one of these brand batteries for the 8525. Although it's physical size is the same as the OEM, it had some extra bulk and bumps on it that would not let the battery door shut completely. I also couldn't tell any extended use over the OEM battery. I eventually just left it charged up and in my laptop bag for emergency use.

god god god!!!!

That sure would be nice. My only real complaint about the Tilt is that the battery life is pretty short.
Although I am usually traveling with my laptop and I keep an electrovaya power pad in my laptop case with it. That's PLENTY of battery power if I don't need to be ultra portable.

New 1600 Bat on way!
just ordered one of these Battery's less than $30 Dollars AUD dellivered!
Let you know what its like when it comes.
Cheers
Paul

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Personally, I tend to be a bit skeptical of 3rd party battery capacity claims that seem to easily be able to squeeze more life into the same space.
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Ditto. Most of them seem to "engineer" the higher capacity into the label only.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but it's pretty unlikely that HTC gave up 20% capacity at the same price in a just-released device. When one is replacing 2-3 year-old batteries then an increase is believable but I'm pretty skeptical right now....
Richard

Completely skeptical, lithiums tend to have a capacity equal to size, 20% should be simply bigger. I would also like you to report if the batteries have the metal shield on the inside face as well. But the price is good...

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Completely skeptical, lithiums tend to have a capacity equal to size, 20% should be simply bigger. I would also like you to report if the batteries have the metal shield on the inside face as well. But the price is good...
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That's what worries me on these third party. That shield is there for a reason.
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i use on my prophet high cap batteries ... the only problem i have found ... the batterie messure the batterie drain. batteries they are copy tells wrong value!
my prophet use idle 2mah and the batterie tells me 80mah. this is messure with laborpowersupply. the original batterie tells the right value +- 5mah.
next point ... the batterie loading controller can have problem to stop the charge or the value for to low voltage are wrong. this make the live time of the copy batterie shorter! the first batteries for nokia have blast some handys, but this is a long time ago ... sorry for my bad english!
Batteries doesnt must have a big size to have more capacity! how much capacity a batterie have is what electrode you use. i cant explane in english.
wenns wer übersetzen will ... hat die elektrode eine große oberfläche, können sich mehr elektronen (geladene teilchen) dort aufhalten. dafür ist die stromfestigkeit nicht mehr gegeben :->

This is interesting, but i remember fairly well those exploding nokia battery's. They were all made by someone not approved by Nokia...

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Mugen Power Batteries Releases 1800mAh Extended Battery for HTC Legend

Has anyone used the following battery..?
Source -->> prweb.com/releases/2010/06/prweb4065814.htm
The new Mugen Power battery increases usage time of popular HTC Legend by almost 40%.
Raleigh, NC (PRWEB) June 1, 2010 -- Mugen Power Batteries producer of premium quality extended batteries for mobile devices, announced the launch of new extended battery for HTC Legend BB00100. The new product - HLI-LegendXL has a capacity of 1800mAh - 40% more than the stock HTC Legend battery, which only has 1300mAh.
Short battery life has been reported as one of the main issues with HTC Legend device equipped with 600 MHz processor and 3.2-inch screen. Mugen Power battery solves this problem with the new extended battery. 40% additional power provides enough usage time for gadget consumer on a constant move.
ABOUT MUGEN POWER BATTERIES
Mugen Power is the worldwide leading brand of high performance batteries for portable electronic devices. The superior quality results in longer battery life and better protection of the powered device. All Mugen Power batteries undergo vigorous QA procedure, resulting in Mugen Power achieving the lowest return rate in the industry. All Mugen Power batteries are CE and RoHS approved. Mugen Power batteries are premium product and designed for experienced users, who understand importance of quality for long battery life and safety of everyday use. Newest Mugen Power products include 2400mAh battery for Nokia N900, 2600mAh battery for HTC HD2, 3200mAh battery for Google Nexus One and 3900mAH battery for Huawei e5830.
...sounds definitely interesting! It seems to be a company in Hong Kong. Are the $46.95 quoted therefore HK Dollar? ;-)
Any first-hand experience?
ill wait till i see some real life reviews before i get one of these but it sounds promising!
I have mine on order now. Upgrading to a 1500mah battery made a decent difference in usabillity, hoping for the same difference again in a step up to 1800mah.
Should get two days battery life out of it then between charges
Friend..Do not forget to post your experience in Detail.
Your experience will make 100's other crying people happy or sad....(they will decide whether to buy this or not)
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agree 100%! ;-)
Link to Mugen battery
There's a link for this battery, but I can't post it because I'm a new user, just google Mugen.
I'm considering buying this for my T-Mobile/HTC MyTouch 3G Slide, if it's any good. I'd like to find a dock to charge this battery! If anyone finds one, let me know.
Doug
any news yet? I wan't to know the result
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I have mine on order now. Upgrading to a 1500mah battery made a decent difference in usabillity, hoping for the same difference again in a step up to 1800mah.
Should get two days battery life out of it then between charges
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Did you get the battery, or is it still on its way?
Edit: Someone on a Dutch forum has this battery and will report in a few days. I will post his findings here!
First review from a Dutch forum (translated from Dutch, so it might be a little iffy):
I've got the Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC 1800mAh Legend BB00100 a few days now. Enough time (following the instructions) to fully charge and empty the battery a few times. I drained the battery by leaving the phone running Google Maps navigation. Yesterday and today was the first normal use.
Old situation: Before I had this battery, I was happy if the battery could make it through one working day. With light use in the morning, and in the evening with 40-50% left to do some web browsing. If I didn't put it on the charger at night, the next morning it was about 15%, not enough to start the day. Under normal to heavy use I never made it to the end of the day without charging in between.
New situation: With the same kind of usage it's about 70% in the evening. Again some web browsing before bed and no charger. This morning there was still 43%.
Conclusion: I still put it on the charger because I'm still unlikely to make it through an entire day. But what's clear is that I can make it easily through one day even with heavier use, no more charging in between. That makes the purchase worth for me.
Don't expect that you now can navigate for hours without draining your battery because that won't change. That was exactly what I hoped it would cause. Nothing more annoying than a device to with normal to heavy use that won't make it through one day. Striking is that the Battery Graph program (from where I get these measurements) shows that this battery longer stays at 100% and about as steep downhill runs compared to the standard battery.
so, to resume... even with the 1800mah battery, heavy use will make legend go for just one day...lol
this is intriguing to me...
how in the heck can a Samsung Galaxy Spica GT-I5700, with android 2.1 (there is an update for it now) last about 3 days with normal-heavy use, with the original battery of only 1500mah?!?!?!?! something is very wrong with Legend power usage...
PS. I've seen with my own eyes what I've said about the Samsung...
Yeah, I know it's strange.. Maybe the rom cookers can find out what's causing the power issue.
that would be nice, but I don't know what is the technical skills required to find out...
I can use the battery for 2 to 3days with browsing and some navigation (and 3G is always on, GPS only when needed). BUT: I use taskpanel lite too autokill most programs on standby, really made much difference for me
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The reviewer from the Dutch forum said that the battery does what it stands for.. So it will add about 30% battery life and it will hold up better under heavy use.
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The reviewer from the Dutch forum said that the battery does what it stands for.. So it will add about 30% battery life and it will hold up better under heavy use.
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Op welk forum heb je dit gelezen?
On what forum did you found this?
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Op welk forum heb je dit gelezen?
On what forum did you found this?
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Tweakers.net:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1393926/129
Bericht van Vmu
Message from Vmu
Hi,
What about the size of the Mugen Power Extended 1800mAh Battery? Is it the same size as the original 1300mAh one? If not, how much bigger it is? Any photos?
On Mugen website it says:
"The extra size and weight increases pale into insignificance when you consider the true convenience the battery gives... it represents excellent value for money."
Thanks!
bodjor said:
Hi,
What about the size of the Mugen Power Extended 1800mAh Battery? Is it the same size as the original 1300mAh one? If not, how much bigger it is? Any photos?
On Mugen website it says:
"The extra size and weight increases pale into insignificance when you consider the true convenience the battery gives... it represents excellent value for money."
Thanks!
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For the legend, the battery is the same size as the original (it has to be, since you can't remove the entire back of the phone and replace it with a larger back).
Weight? Not sure if it will be much heavier than the original.
I ordered mine and it's on the way, but it could takes weeks to get in
Mine is also on the way, and I was thinking about doing a mini-review of it. Not done like the other one here, but with the method mention earlier here: With the screen at maximum brightness and video running running and see who lasts the longest. Any other method? Maybe with a benchmark-tool standing at repeat, if there are any?
Suggestions?

Extended Slim Battery...

So.... after being out for half a year... a extended SLIM battery has not been released yet?? I mean, I know i'm not the most "technical" person in the world.. but honestly?? how HARD can it possibly be??!! doesn't make one bit of sense.... and they still haven't made an OEM battery cover.. with a kick stand??!! ridiculous.. the person in charge of the accessories.. needs to be fired...
sorry just a little rant.. after seeing my friend buy a extended slim 1750mah battery for his EVO.... which is a HD2 replica..... the battery sizes are identical... and I'm not even asking for 1750... 1500mah is all i really need.. if i had an extra 2-3 hours of battery life.. then it would be PERFECT for a full days use
I posted similar thing awhile back with some moronic replies saying that there is not a market for that.
These people, rather, want you to believe that it's better to buy ebay/chinese fakes for $5-10 bucks that, ironically, labeled "1500" or "1600mah"! I dont understand why other phones, with similar form factor to the HD2, manage to get standard size extended battery with the added 200-300mah, but the HD2 only get +70mah (1300mah) from Mugen.
lude219 said:
I posted similar thing awhile back with some moronic replies saying that there is not a market for that.
These people, rather, want you to believe that it's better to buy ebay/chinese fakes for $5-10 bucks that, ironically, labeled "1500" or "1600mah"! I dont understand why other phones, with similar form factor to the HD2, manage to get standard size extended battery with the added 200-300mah, but the HD2 only get +70mah (1300mah) from Mugen.
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hear hear. The thing that annoys me the most is the battery life on the HD2, or rather, the pace on which it drains. The biggest improvement would be a battery with a bigger capacity.
How hard can it be? probably just as hard as trying to fit 2 litres of water into a 1 litre bottle
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How hard can it be? probably just as hard as trying to fit 2 litres of water into a 1 litre bottle
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i think thats a slight overexaggeration... first of all take the evo for example.. they managed a standard size 1700mah battery... you're telling me our battery with practically the same size as the evo.. can't even get a 1500?? no sir this isn't a technical issue.. trust me.. this is just bad marketing on the hTC HD2 part.. thats all.
Are the physical dimensions of the battery the same?
Maarten_0031 said:
hear hear. The thing that annoys me the most is the battery life on the HD2, or rather, the pace on which it drains. The biggest improvement would be a battery with a bigger capacity.
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Nope - biggest improvement would be a device that uses much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work.
the largest capacity for the stock battery size is so far mugen at 1300..
but its very very expensive.. and comes with only 70mAh more juice.. wth man..
I have designed a solution for the short battery life of the HD2, it solves a couple of problems ive seen complaints about and will increase the battery capacity beyond anything available currently, and its not and ugly lump im hoping to put it in production very soon, the only compromise is extra thickness of the phone...
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Nope - biggest improvement would be a device that uses much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work.
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My problem with this is that manufacturers start making power management decisions for me. They start reducing power output from wifi and bluetooth, they restrict standards on things like wifi (allowing 802.11g but not n), they limit screen brightness, etc. All in order to say that their unit last longer on a single battery charge.
I'm sure that the technology is there to have processors that run twice as fast as ours yet still fit in the HD2 device. They just can't make one that will last on such as small battery for more than 10 minutes. That's fine with me. Make it and let the user select how fast the processor runs.
They won't do that because they would still have to advertise that the battery lasted 10 minutes and there would be consumers out there saying, your device needs to use "much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work."

Thin extended battery?

Is there any thin extended battery that works with original back cover of hd2?
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Is there any thin extended battery that works with original back cover of hd2?
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Well if it was thin it wouldnt be an "extended" battery would it? The whole point is that its extended to fit more power into it.
If it was easy to get more power into a battery then HTC would already supply them with the HD2 and extended ones wouldn't be needed/wanted.
apperantly you dunno anything about material science.
CAN'T a new battery with a better performance with SAME SIZE come out? Oh of course no! cuz it doesn't have bigger size.
Don't think there are any worth considering... there are 1600mah batteries on ebay but the overall consensus is that they're just about the same as ome battery ... it would truly make HD2 a much better phone if they can just extend the stock battery by a bit...
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apperantly you dunno anything about material science.
CAN'T a new battery with a better performance with SAME SIZE come out? Oh of course no! cuz it doesn't have bigger size.
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Apparently your logic and maners are weak. If you bothered to flip through next two pages of this section, you would find at least two threads about batteries. In those threads you would find that there is no slim extanded battery in existance for HD2.
Sent from my HD2 powered by HyperDroidGBX
Curious! said:
apperantly you dunno anything about material science.
CAN'T a new battery with a better performance with SAME SIZE come out? Oh of course no! cuz it doesn't have bigger size.
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lol, your scientific/logical huge brain obviously missed the point.
You asked for an "extended" battery, that would infer you wanted one that was "extended" beyond the normal limits. Currently the only way to get one that is beyond the limits of the ones that are supplied with devices are to buy ones that are "extended" meaning they are larger in dimension and hold more power.
Currently you CANT get a battery for our device that has the capacity of a extended one unless its "extended". The ones you see on ebay and other sites saying otherwise are FAKE.
Curious! said:
apperantly you dunno anything about material science.
CAN'T a new battery with a better performance with SAME SIZE come out? Oh of course no! cuz it doesn't have bigger size.
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You should dial back the Smarmy attitude amigo. Athiest is spot on by the way. The only way (currently) to have an extended battery for the HD2 is to make the battery larger.
apallohadas said:
You should dial back the Smarmy attitude amigo. Athiest is spot on by the way. The only way (currently) to have an extended battery for the HD2 is to make the battery larger.
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I suspect that if someone made a genuine Lithium Polymer battery instead of Li-Ion it would indeed hold more charge. But I have not seen any such. The Andida is listed as LiPoly, but it can't be - it is basically the same mA as the stock battery.
Mugen has a 1300mah battery, which is a little more than the 1230 or 1250mah the stock battery comes with. I think I get a little more time with my mugen battery than with the stock, but never ran any definitive tests. But mugen is probably the best you will get with a battery the same size as the stock one.
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In those threads you would find that there is no slim extanded battery in existance for HD2.
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TheATHEiST said:
Currently you CANT get a battery for our device that has the capacity of a extended one unless its "extended". The ones you see on ebay and other sites saying otherwise are FAKE.
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Why do you guys disinform people? As a matter of fact there are "extendend" batteries that have the same size as the OEM batt. Where it is written that a battery extended in power must also be extended in size? Of course, there is a relation between size and power, but this relation might vary depending on the materials and the technology used.
Here you have a 2430 mAh battery (the "famous" business gold battery, which no one here bothered to test), and the seller says it has the same dimensions as the original one. If this battery has indeed 2430 mAh remains for us to find out. I'm thinking to buy one, just to test.
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Why do you guys disinform people? As a matter of fact there are "extendend" batteries that have the same size as the OEM batt. Where it is written that a battery extended in power must also be extended in size? Of course, there is a relation between size and power, but this relation might vary depending on the materials and the technology used.
Here you have a 2430 mAh battery (the "famous" business gold battery, which no one here bothered to test), and the seller says it has the same dimensions as the original one. If this battery has indeed 2430 mAh remains for us to find out. I'm thinking to buy one, just to test.
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Nowhere in the add does it state that it is the same size as the OEM battery. I'm wondering if it really is; from the picture angles it is difficult to tell and might be deeper. But it is probably the same.
However, the packaging looks amateurish and suspect. This almost looks like a home-made wrapper.
Let us know if you order one!
Gold Battery
OK, I asked the seller about the size and if it will work with the stock cover, here is the answer:
"Hi,
I think it will work with it and the battery has a same size as standard battery."
On looking at the pictures, the batteries may be from Japan, but that is Chinese writing on the battery... or at least it is identical to my Andida "1600" writing.
Yeah...I would'nt put that battery into my HD2...seriously, that looks sketchy as hell. IF it turns out to be 2300mAH, which I highly doubt...it looks REALLY amateur-ish. It's all about memory management people, close crap thats running in RAM and your stock battery will last literally ALL day.
optyqus said:
Why do you guys disinform people? As a matter of fact there are "extendend" batteries that have the same size as the OEM batt. Where it is written that a battery extended in power must also be extended in size? Of course, there is a relation between size and power, but this relation might vary depending on the materials and the technology used.
Here you have a 2430 mAh battery (the "famous" business gold battery, which no one here bothered to test), and the seller says it has the same dimensions as the original one. If this battery has indeed 2430 mAh remains for us to find out. I'm thinking to buy one, just to test.
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I really hope that you're joking.
Well I'm not, call me stupid, call me whatever you want but I do believe what I said for a main reason: one of my hobbies are rc flying models, both electric and with combustion engines. In this hobby you need powerfull batteries for controllers or engines (NiCD, NiMh, LiPo). I have a range of these batteries of different capacities and some of them have the same size but different power (eg: a 750mAh has the same size as a 2200 one). Of course, the ones that are more powerful are not cheap, but it's money well spent.
I'm not saying that the ugly looking "gold"battery which seems to be wrapped by a 5 years old kid has 2430mAh, but it worths tested. I just want to put this battery on the ohmmetter to read it's values. Regarding the safety for my device, I used chinese batteries on other phones too (spv m3100, kaiser) and none exploded, got bigger or overheat; they do loose their capacity much faster but if you are on low budget a 10 bucks battery saves your as* for a couple of months.
Read some feedback about this GOLD battery:
not 2430mah only 1230mah just a fancy gold sticker
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in description made in Japan... Item made in China )
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SCAM!!!The batteries are 700mah, delivery was late & the packaging open
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Real capacity is much much lower than 1930mah worse than stock battery
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quick delivery but battery no better than the standard original
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Its ok, doesn't last any longer than normal battery thou
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These ''gold'' battery is 50% capacity than an original battery. Not 1930mAh.
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optyqus said:
Well I'm not, call me stupid, call me whatever you want but I do believe what I said for a main reason: one of my hobbies are rc flying models, both electric and with combustion engines. In this hobby you need powerfull batteries for controllers or engines (NiCD, NiMh, LiPo). I have a range of these batteries of different capacities and some of them have the same size but different power (eg: a 750mAh has the same size as a 2200 one). Of course, the ones that are more powerful are not cheap, but it's money well spent.
I'm not saying that the ugly looking "gold"battery which seems to be wrapped by a 5 years old kid has 2430mAh, but it worths tested. I just want to put this battery on the ohmmetter to read it's values. Regarding the safety for my device, I used chinese batteries on other phones too (spv m3100, kaiser) and none exploded, got bigger or overheat; they do loose their capacity much faster but if you are on low budget a 10 bucks battery saves your as* for a couple of months.
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No one is calling you stupid, but you do seem ill-informed.
Cell phones are not the same as hobbyist 3rd party suppliers. Batteries for rc devices are much more third party friendly than cell phones. What we're likely buying from these Chinese manufacturers are probably cast-off batteries that didn't make it through quality control.
Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
I asked if you were joking because the battery you linked was blatantly sketchy. It isn't even worth checking unless you just like to throw money away.
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Read some feedback about this GOLD battery:
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Where did you get this feedback?
I wish people would just give up trying to find a higher capacity battery which is of the same size. If it was that easy wouldn't you think HTC and ALL major phone manufacturers with their vast resources wouln't want the same thing? A few mm less in dimensions or a higher capacity battery can mean far better sales (millions more).
From experience with tons of mobile phones and 3rd party batteries they have always come out worse 99.99% time. Most of them are cheaply made where they blatantly lie about there actual capacity, don't meet safety standards, can explode, can bulge, overheats etc.
How many more threads about these cheapo batteries quoted with much higher capacity that is pulled out of thin air.
Not to rant but if you want more juice I recommend you get the official HTC extended 2300mah or Mugem battery. I'm afraid you can't have a thin phone and more juice. end of
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Where did you get this feedback?
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Ebay sellers that sell the same battery

(Q) Ultra-High Capacity Samsung AB653850CE Gold Battery - 2430mAh

Have anyone tried this????
The ultra high capacity battery for Nexus S, boast 2430MAH but has the SAME SIZE with the original battery!!!
It's not the real capacity.
Put it this way: the OEM batteries are made with almost latest Li-Ion technologies. Unless there is a breakthrough discovery which will double the amount of energy stored per volume unit (in which case you will see this all over the news) any battery that will claim more than 10-15% energy boost in the same volume is a fake.
Take as an example the Momax batteries.
They've achieved to put 1700mAh in a battery the same size as the original 1500mAh used for Galaxy S (I had one of those on my ex GalaxyS) and indeed .. it was "a little" stronger than the original. Anyway, in order to get 2700mAh, the Momax battery got double the original volume (I also had this huge battery and indeed, had the claimed capacity).
Now ... just look over the internet after the manufacturer of these wonder batteries you're asking in your post and see if they really have the reputaion for "super-batteries" ...
Also Seidio make ultra batteries but are too big.
ro_explorer said:
It's not the real capacity.
Put it this way: the OEM batteries are made with almost latest Li-Ion technologies. Unless there is a breakthrough discovery which will double the amount of energy stored per volume unit (in which case you will see this all over the news) any battery that will claim more than 10-15% energy boost in the same volume is a fake.
Take as an example the Momax batteries.
They've achieved to put 1700mAh in a battery the same size as the original 1500mAh used for Galaxy S (I had one of those on my ex GalaxyS) and indeed .. it was "a little" stronger than the original. Anyway, in order to get 2700mAh, the Momax battery got double the original volume (I also had this huge battery and indeed, had the claimed capacity).
Now ... just look over the internet after the manufacturer of these wonder batteries you're asking in your post and see if they really have the reputaion for "super-batteries" ...
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Geez..such a shame.. I was hoping that this was true..too good to be true
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Geez..such a shame.. I was hoping that this was true..too good to be true
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wow... i opened this thread with full of hope... and now the hope is gone...
Not sure where you found that, the part number is for the 1440mA part.
Link?
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ro_explorer said:
It's not the real capacity.
Put it this way: the OEM batteries are made with almost latest Li-Ion technologies. Unless there is a breakthrough discovery which will double the amount of energy stored per volume unit (in which case you will see this all over the news) any battery that will claim more than 10-15% energy boost in the same volume is a fake.
Take as an example the Momax batteries.
They've achieved to put 1700mAh in a battery the same size as the original 1500mAh used for Galaxy S (I had one of those on my ex GalaxyS) and indeed .. it was "a little" stronger than the original. Anyway, in order to get 2700mAh, the Momax battery got double the original volume (I also had this huge battery and indeed, had the claimed capacity).
Now ... just look over the internet after the manufacturer of these wonder batteries you're asking in your post and see if they really have the reputaion for "super-batteries" ...
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thanx for these info
I was about to buy this extra battery with more power. Thanks bro ... will drop i decision.
Is there any battery with a bit more capacity then the original one?
i'm going to buy a second battery and therefore i'm glad for any hint which one is good (and cheap)
http://www.seidioonline.com/google-nexus-s-4g-innocell-1750-extended-battery-p/basi17ssn2.htm
i only found this one! i think about ordering one for my nexus s
btw viper780 from oc.at? 3n54 here if you remeber me
Let us know what you'll get out of it ... is definitely looking good (especially for the price .. which is not a bargain I could say).
endursa said:
http://www.seidioonline.com/google-nexus-s-4g-innocell-1750-extended-battery-p/basi17ssn2.htm
i only found this one! i think about ordering one for my nexus s
btw viper780 from oc.at? 3n54 here if you remeber me
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is there an other Viper780? and sure i remember 50 USD is a bit to much for me, i hoped for an 15-30EUR Product (incl shipment and taxes)
I found a review on Amazon for this battery. I always take these with a grain of salt as there are so many variables to conclude "Your Results may vary".
I found the OP's 2430 Double capacity battery on Ebay. I went through the reviews and a few savy users stated something similar to this.
Let's call it fraud. I was not expectin a 2.43mAh but gettin a 1367mAh is bad!
Member id antonio_ve72 ( Feedback Score Of 587Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999)
Nov-03-11 07:45
GOLD 2430MAH BA700 BATTERY FOR SONY ERICSSON XPERIA PRO (#130539631517)
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Then this review on the Seidio.
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-BASI17...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
What a waste of time and money. I followed the instructions exactly. Charged it for 5 full cycles and allowed it charge after it was full. This is labeled as an 'extended battery' yet there is no extended life to speak of. If anything it at or worse than the original battery it came with. I also was experiencing more of my programs force closing than usually. If this battery was only $19.99 than maybe I wouldn't care as much, but at $50 you have to get what you pay for. Avoid and get an extra OEM Genuine Samsung Battery or an extra wall charger for work.
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So I tend to agree with ro_explorer that unless there was an advance in technology this may be too good to be true. But let's see. Best of luck.
endursa said:
http://www.seidioonline.com/google-nexus-s-4g-innocell-1750-extended-battery-p/basi17ssn2.htm
i only found this one! i think about ordering one for my nexus s
btw viper780 from oc.at? 3n54 here if you remeber me
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Let us know when you have bought and use it for couple days
I bought an anker battery from Amazon. It works much better than my stock but I think my stock battery was on its last legs
ro_explorer said:
.... Unless there is a breakthrough discovery which will double the amount of energy stored per volume unit (in which case you will see this all over the news) ...
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What I was saying about seeing stuff over the news ?
Researchers increase charging capacity, speed of lithium ion batteries by a factor of ten
So ... maybe in about 3-4 years, along with multi-core phones, we will see also super-duper batteries .
How a 15Ah would sound on your nexus S device ? LOL ...
endursa said:
http://www.seidioonline.com/google-nexus-s-4g-innocell-1750-extended-battery-p/basi17ssn2.htm
i only found this one! i think about ordering one for my nexus s
btw viper780 from oc.at? 3n54 here if you remeber me
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I might pick up 2 of these once they email me another big discount code.
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If it's from the UK...
Don't do it.
Here's my experience with a UK seller, e_cell.
I believe he has other handles as well, ecellaccessories, etelluk, maybe even digi.tech
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19480718#post19480718
yehoon said:
Don't do it.
Here's my experience with a UK seller, e_cell.
I believe he has other handles as well, ecellaccessories, etelluk, maybe even digi.tech
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19480718#post19480718
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useful info, much appreciated.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be spending your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another paralel forae - "conclusion" after testing on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20373274#post20373274
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...

[Q]Extended Battery the size if OEM battery?

Like title says.. I've been trying to find a extended battery which has higher capacity yet the size of the original battery but no luck
Does anyone know if there is one and where to fine one
Thanks
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
If the battery is the same size it could in theory have more juice but it would be negligible. Seriously though, I picked up a charging cradle with battery charging slot and 2 spare batteries for $20. I also have a car charger and 3 chargers in my house. Unless you get a battery that is about double the size, you won't see a big difference and even then many batteries don't live up to their specs. Chargers and spare batteries are cheap. We're not dealing with smartphones of a decade ago where everything was proprietary and would cost at least $30 a pop.
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I remember reading something about this... I think it might have even been on this forum but it was something along the lines of "Don't you think, if it were possible to fit more juice into the same size battery, that samsung wouldn't do that with their OEM batteries?"
Samsung, and I'm sure many other major device manufacturers don't just buy a battery off ebay and throw it in their phones. they spend time and money researching better battery technologies to get the best power/life they can.
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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Be careful buying those batteries. More often than not they just repackage 1500 batteries and Mark up the price :/
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After 3 complete charge cycle its a little bit better than OEM but no big improvement. I'll see in a few more days.
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
Surnom said:
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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How long have you had the battery? I'm looking for a new one as well but not if I am going to get scammed. Thanks!
Not Nexus related, but I have a vibrant that I got the Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G Touch battery for recently. Battery life went from about 6 hours to dead (month old 1500 mAh replacement battery bought at a phone hut) to 34 hours to dead (new samsung 1800mAh battery.) Nothing else changed.
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start? (hint, it is always about money.)
2. Take a crap 1500 mAh battery, slap a 1800 mAh sticker on it. People that buy these batteries will see an improvement because most generally they are replacing a worn out battery with a new one. Of course you will see an improvement, your worn out stock battery has only (arbitrary number) 600 mAh worth of usefulness left. The replacement is new and is not worn yet. (All arbitrary numbers follow) So, you will still see an improvement if you take a rated 1500mAh battery, that is labeled 1800mAh, but is in actuality only 1000mAh.
So asking if there is another, bigger, better battery for the Nexus made by Samsung, is a very valid question. So:
mrplowking said:
are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
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Yes it is possible. Search the Vibrant, and Fascinate/Mezmerize forum for examples.
Its about 6-7 days old, bought it on EBAY from this place:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladyblue1974/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
t1n0m3n said:
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start?
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Because it is a device from 2 years ago (2010) and the S2 is from q3 2011. Maybe two years allowed them to cram more juice into the battery.
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
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Yes, as you so eloquently rephrased, "it's always about money." I noticed you left that part out of your quote of me.
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Flukzr said:
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
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"Take a crap 1500 mAh battery" In this case "crap"="non oem"
I figured that would be obvious with my prior "phone hut" comment. I guess not.
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I am a big fan of the OEM batteries. I have not tested a non-oem battery that will perform anywhere close to the stated specifications so far.
If you guys find some good battery reviews, tests, etc. please post up.
Keep in mind that comparing a brand new "Craptastic Brand™" battery to your old worn out OEM battery is kind of pointless for getting a feel of the comparative quality/capacity of a battery.
klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Dude that looks good for $20! Post more details! I might be getting that
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klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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is that battery same size like the original battery?
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yes tjackbjorn, same size
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yes tjackbjorn, same size
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okey, does it work properly? Think I maybe buy one, it wasn't too expensive!
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yes, it works properly. I had used my original battery for 12 months when I switched over to this one. The improvement was very noticeable.
I just charged my phone to 99%, I will report back in 24 hours with battery information and battery history since unplugged.
Sounds great!

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