Ever since i had my t-Mobile varioIII the backlight light never goes completely off. It will go to the lowest dim setting from bright but not off. I've tried using Phonealarm and use the setting 0% but this does not help. Going directly to backlight in settings and using the slider all the way left just makes the screen backlight go dim too, not off. Does this happen on all Kaisers?
While I'm here, I have in settings>today>items a 'program' called
[email protected] listed along with the usual Date, owner info, etc but if i tick it on nothing appears on the today screen. Any body know what this is for?
same problem with backlight! (mda vario3)
my htc kaiser does that when charging and I have not got the registry keys to change it
Apologies for asking something you guys most probably already checked:
Go Start->Settings->System->Power. Then select the Advanced tab and see if "Turn off device if not used for" is checked and what amount of time has been set for this.
It's normal, Kaisers screen is not transreflective so if the backlight is off there will be no display (unlike the previous 8525/Hermes which had a transreflective screen that could be seen with the backlite off) so they keep it always on when the phone is on. If you are connected to a charger, you can set the phone to turn itself off after a set time, but that's all you can do.
On my TyTN II the setting I showed above works fine. It switches off the screen after the set period.
Yes, the display goes off because the phone is now in off/standby. If you were connected to active sync, it would just dim but stay on.
...and that's because the setting Start->Settings->System->Power->Advanced->On external power. This is by default unchecked.
The problem is how to get the screen to go off and save battery, but remain connected e.g. to WiFi for those of us who receive VoIP calls.
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i have set the back light to turn off after one minute in external power.
usb sync cable connected to pc and back light will go dimmer in one minute but not complete off.
anyone has this problem?
this seems to be the new behavior of the TyTN II vs. the old TyTN: The back light never goes completely off. You have to push the power button to put the unit in standby. When I listen to music, for instance, I want the backlight to go off to save power: I must push the power button to turn off the backlight. The music still plays, which is nice...
Anyway I'm not sure what to do about it when it's connected to a computer to sync, since pushing the power button would likely interrupt the sync. It doesn't bother me that the backlight doesn't go off.
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I'd go as far to say this is the new behaviour of Windows Mobile 6. The Toshiba G900 was exactly the same. It is possible to get a small app to turn the backlight off completely however when it's connected to your computer via USB it isn't drawing power from the battery but from the computer so it doesn't matter, and it's just show you it is still on.
Regards
Phil
8525 running Black Satin WM6 doesn't do this, I don't think it's WM6
rite i dont mind the power consumption, but i cant go to sleep with the light on next to me, i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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8525 running Black Satin WM6 doesn't do this, I don't think it's WM6
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With all due respect that is a cooked ROM and will not need to follow WM6 best practice or MS guidelines.
I think this happens with the Kaiser (like it does with the G900) because the LCD isn't transreflective. With a transreflective device, even in normal room light you can usually see what is on the TFT display, so the device can time out the backlight completely turning it off, and you still know it is powered on but just the backlight has gone off. With a non transreflective screen like the Kaiser, if the backlight did go off completely while the device is still on, you can not see anything on the TFT screen, so it looks completely off, but it isn't. So I think the dimmed backlight is so you know it is still on by being able to see something on the display.
You can see this happening on battery power. If the backlight is timed to go off before the device powers down, it doesn't go off completely but dims, then shuts off completely when the device goes into standby.
but i cant go to sleep with the light on next to me, i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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You have a few options:
1) Power off the device.
2) Press the standby button.
3) Turn it upside down or cover it.
4) Download this application that will let you turn off the backlight completely. http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
i like it off completely to save screen life too.
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This will be making little different to your screen life. The backlight is made up of white LEDs, these will have a lifetime of around 50,000 to 100,000 hours (more when used at a dimmed setting) so will easily outlast the device even if running non-stop from the day you buy it.
Best Regards
Phil
ic, as long as its ok for the screen life i am cool with it. thanks for the input.
PhilipL said:
Hi
4) Download this application that will let you turn off the backlight completely. http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
Best Regards
Phil
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This app would be good except that when you set the action to turn the light off in say 15 seconds it only does it the first time and then must exit itself because it won't do anything further until you reload it.
I need a program that stays resident and turns the light off after a set period of time. Pressing the power button isn't good enough because that stops a lot of apps running by putting the Kaiser into standby.
Anyone know of a program or fix?
The 8525 turned the backlight off no matter if you used stock or cooked ROM. The 8125 was the same way. Not until I got my Tilt did this "feature" arrive.
There may be some kind of a flaw in the programming. No, that never happens with a M$ program.
I was having the issue described in the thread, backlight stayed on. I played with my power and backlight settings and while searching for the answer my screen dimmed, even though it is connected via USB. I think if you go back and reset your backlight and power settings, that you will then see the desired effect on the PDA screen.
My settings:
Power= On Battery- 1 minute, On External- 2 minutes
Backlight Brightness= On Battery set to middle (half way), On External set to full
Battery Power Tab and External Power Tab- both set to 1 minute
The end result is that after 1 minute my screen dims to the lowest backlight setting. Screen is dim but I can still read what is there.
This is a very old thread, the backlight is always on because the Kaiser's screen is not transreflective like it's predecessor Hermes. If the light is out you will see nothing where you could with the Hermes. It's just the way it is with this model.
I have another question which it is related with the backlight and power off.
I tried to power off the phone by pressing and holding the power button. It asks me to confirm it. However, after the phone is "powered" off, it seems can be turned on by sliding out the keyboard.
Is it normal? or is it something to be fixed?
I have an ATT Tilt with stock ROM.
(just got it few days ago from ebay).
Thanks.
Down with new, weird "features"!
Lidberg said:
The 8525 turned the backlight off no matter if you used stock or cooked ROM. The 8125 was the same way. Not until I got my Tilt did this "feature" arrive.
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If I read your sarcasm correctly, I am in agreement that this is a dubious feature. I think there are a number of changes from 8125&8525 to "8925" that are questionable. I wish HTC would spend more time getting the hardware and basic features working perfectly, and less time adding new programs just to change the look.
Transflective . . .
RemE said:
This is a very old thread, the backlight is always on because the Kaiser's screen is not transreflective like it's predecessor Hermes. If the light is out you will see nothing where you could with the Hermes. It's just the way it is with this model.
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Everything I can find in searching says both the Hermes and the Kaiser have transflective screens, (as well as the 8125); e.g., from elite-electronics.com RE: the Tytn II: "color transflective TFT". [However, neither the 8125 or Tytn II have the technology that allows good viewing in daylight, like a Garmin Nuvi 350 or similar]
But if you can actually see something on screen on the Hermes when backlight is turned off, then that is truly different from the 8125 and the Tilt.
plchan said:
I have another question which it is related with the backlight and power off.
I tried to power off the phone by pressing and holding the power button. It asks me to confirm it. However, after the phone is "powered" off, it seems can be turned on by sliding out the keyboard.
Is it normal? or is it something to be fixed?
I have an ATT Tilt with stock ROM.
(just got it few days ago from ebay).
Thanks.
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This is normal behavior. If you don't like it...download KaiserTweak.
Under the Keyboard->Slide Wake option you can disable it.
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If I read your sarcasm correctly, I am in agreement that this is a dubious feature. I think there are a number of changes from 8125&8525 to "8925" that are questionable. I wish HTC would spend more time getting the hardware and basic features working perfectly, and less time adding new programs just to change the look.
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Agreed. HTC - stop fixing what isn't broken in the first place.
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Everything I can find in searching says both the Hermes and the Kaiser have transflective screens, (as well as the 8125); e.g., from elite-electronics.com RE: the Tytn II: "color transflective TFT". [However, neither the 8125 or Tytn II have the technology that allows good viewing in daylight, like a Garmin Nuvi 350 or similar]
But if you can actually see something on screen on the Hermes when backlight is turned off, then that is truly different from the 8125 and the Tilt.
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Transreflective is NOT in the HTC TyTN II spec but is in the TyTN I spec. You can't believe a reseller.
If you turn off the backlight on a Hermes and then grab a big flashlight and shine it on the screen, you can then easily see the screen, the brighter the light the better you will be able to see it.
If you try this with Kaiser you will quickly see that the bright light will make it impossible to see the kaiser screen, no mater what backlight setting you choose, and certainly not on low.
It's a simple test and I'm convinced on what I say.
That said, the Kaiser's transmissive screen is super bright in most mid to low light areas since transreflective screens are normally not quite as bright as transmissives.
Hi all, whenever my Kaiser goes to sleep and I turn it back on, it closes whatever app was up, and presents the Today screen.
I am sure I saw a setting to prevent this but cannot find it any more in Advanced Config or Kaiser Tweak.
Anyone know how to make it come out of standby showing the same screen it entered standby with?
Today timeout....... under settings?
No that's something different to what I described.
I was thinking the same thing as grizzley. Can you describe a little more on how it is different than what you described?
My Tilt always comes out of standby to whatever program was running when it went into standby.
That's it really, mine doesn't. E.g. I'm in Calendar, and the device automatically goes into standby after 2 mins. I press the power button and it instantly wakes up, closes calendar, and shows the home screen.
I have seen this option in BatteryStatus but it doesn't have any effect if I tick or untick it.
Yes, I see.
There is also the "Today timeout" setting under Settings>Personal>Today>Items, but I do not think this will help you either.
The only other thing I can think of is maybe you have a Today plug-in that has some sort of "timeout" feature?
Actually, I also have a vague recollection of a setting (maybe in SKTools) that might have been something like "Today screen on resume." But I might be imagining this; I will do a little investigating.
Sorry I can not be more helpful.
surely there has to be a way.. there has to be.. i'm not talking about pocket plus or anything, just something which lowers the backlight dim to 0 instead of 3, or whatever it is.
Heh, I'm searching myself for those dim settings for quite some time already (although it's actually the opposite that I want)... Saying there must be a way... Although noone seems to find it.
I have a TyTN (Hermes 200) and a TyTN II (Kaiser) and tested about everything I could with both devices. Whatever I do, the Hermes doesn't dim, and the Kaiser always dims.
Switched files, settings, whole registry dumps, and nothing.
Tried multiple ROMs of all available OS, still no go.
Last thing I can think of is that there's some inaccessible part of screen driver that's device dependant, and either supports it or not. Maybe some of the chefs can tell something about this...?
You need a registry editor for this. Search for "suspend" and when you see a string that says "batterysuspendontimeout" or whatever similar to that, change the value to the amount you want in seconds. That way, if your phone is inactive for, say 10sec, the backlight will turn off rather than dim.
I guess I could have been more clear. It's not that we can't turn off the screen completely (that's what suspend does). It's the backlight off function we're talking about. You can still read your screen.
On some devices this setting turns off backlight completely, on some devices it dims it to a certain percentage. It's the % of this dim that we're looking for to change.
But this is not in these Power registry settings, there's been many discussions about this before and I compared all these settings on my Hermes (backlight fully off) with my Kaiser (backlight dim) and they're all the same.
Try Lumos. It might be what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452105&highlight=lumos
Hi all,
I've had a search around but couldn't find this particular issue discussed.
I have a N1 running CM7. When the phone is plugged in (either on my desk, or in the car) the screen will auto dim to a very low level after approx. 20 seconds after last touch.
This happens if the brightness is set to auto or a manual level. I've gone through all the settings I can find but couldn't find anything regarding this. I have got developer > stay awake enabled, which I guess stops the screen from actually sleeping, but it still goes dim.
The CM7 auto dim settings are disabled.
Any advice folks? I want the screen to not auto-dim after 20 seconds. Out of interest, the 'Car Widget Pro' widget seems to be able to force the brightness if you choose something other than 'auto' in the widget settings. So perhaps I am missing something somewhere else?
It's a real PITA when trying to navigate in the car with google maps as whenever I touch the screen to get the brightness back it disables gps tracking and I have to re-hit the icon, which is distracting whilst driving..
Here's hoping..
Hey, I'm only posting because I had a very similar issue. What I did was go into display settings (while connected via USB) and changed the timeout to one minute (or whatever you want). For me, when I went to change the timeout, no item was selected by default. This happened to me after I installed WidgetLocker for some reason. I doubt I will help but I had a very similar issue...
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Hi all,
I've had a search around but couldn't find this particular issue discussed.
I have a N1 running CM7. When the phone is plugged in (either on my desk, or in the car) the screen will auto dim to a very low level after approx. 20 seconds after last touch.
This happens if the brightness is set to auto or a manual level. I've gone through all the settings I can find but couldn't find anything regarding this. I have got developer > stay awake enabled, which I guess stops the screen from actually sleeping, but it still goes dim.
The CM7 auto dim settings are disabled.
Any advice folks? I want the screen to not auto-dim after 20 seconds. Out of interest, the 'Car Widget Pro' widget seems to be able to force the brightness if you choose something other than 'auto' in the widget settings. So perhaps I am missing something somewhere else?
It's a real PITA when trying to navigate in the car with google maps as whenever I touch the screen to get the brightness back it disables gps tracking and I have to re-hit the icon, which is distracting whilst driving..
Here's hoping..
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There's an app for that. Search Google Play for screenwake or something. I dunno I'll search up the name for you tommorow
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When I soft-reset my TD2, leave it be for a while so that backlight dims and then press a HW button or tap the display, backlight comes up back again. However, if the device enters standby the "resume backlight on user activity" function stops working properly for some reason. (I am not sure for how long TD2 has to be left alone - maybe 30 minutes, 1 hour?) Specifically, if the backlight dims and I go to Settings > System > Power > Advanced tab and uncheck "Dim screen after X s", the screen will light up, but if I check this checkbox again, the screen will dim even though I just interacted with the phone and the screen should therefore remain lit up. The only other way to get a fully lit screen (at least until it dims again due to user inactivity) is to lock the phone and unlock it back.
I should also add that this happens with the official stock WM6.5 ROM.
Is there anything in phone settings I should enable or disable, or is there any registry key I should set to some specific value for this feature to work properly again?
Thanks for any help.
nvx
nvx2004 said:
When I soft-reset my TD2, leave it be for a while so that backlight dims and then press a HW button or tap the display, backlight comes up back again. However, if the device enters standby the "resume backlight on user activity" function stops working properly for some reason. (I am not sure for how long TD2 has to be left alone - maybe 30 minutes, 1 hour?) Specifically, if the backlight dims and I go to Settings > System > Power > Advanced tab and uncheck "Dim screen after X s", the screen will light up, but if I check this checkbox again, the screen will dim even though I just interacted with the phone and the screen should therefore remain lit up. The only other way to get a fully lit screen (at least until it dims again due to user inactivity) is to lock the phone and unlock it back.
I should also add that this happens with the official stock WM6.5 ROM.
Is there anything in phone settings I should enable or disable, or is there any registry key I should set to some specific value for this feature to work properly again?
Thanks for any help.
nvx
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I think, you could try to use Lumos that exist in this Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2955401&postcount=1
Hakim,
thanks for the suggestion, however, in the meantime I learned that the issue is caused by the WM auto-lock feature (it is a bug that nobody cared to fix :-/ ). I was not able to find any useful work-around so I decided to install an application called LockDevice (it should be here somewhere on XDA Devs) which works very well and seems to be relatively light-weight.
Anyway, thanks again for your response.
nvx