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Backlight never goes off?

Ever since i had my t-Mobile varioIII the backlight light never goes completely off. It will go to the lowest dim setting from bright but not off. I've tried using Phonealarm and use the setting 0% but this does not help. Going directly to backlight in settings and using the slider all the way left just makes the screen backlight go dim too, not off. Does this happen on all Kaisers?
While I'm here, I have in settings>today>items a 'program' called
[email protected] listed along with the usual Date, owner info, etc but if i tick it on nothing appears on the today screen. Any body know what this is for?

same problem with backlight! (mda vario3)

my htc kaiser does that when charging and I have not got the registry keys to change it

Apologies for asking something you guys most probably already checked:
Go Start->Settings->System->Power. Then select the Advanced tab and see if "Turn off device if not used for" is checked and what amount of time has been set for this.

It's normal, Kaisers screen is not transreflective so if the backlight is off there will be no display (unlike the previous 8525/Hermes which had a transreflective screen that could be seen with the backlite off) so they keep it always on when the phone is on. If you are connected to a charger, you can set the phone to turn itself off after a set time, but that's all you can do.

On my TyTN II the setting I showed above works fine. It switches off the screen after the set period.

Yes, the display goes off because the phone is now in off/standby. If you were connected to active sync, it would just dim but stay on.

...and that's because the setting Start->Settings->System->Power->Advanced->On external power. This is by default unchecked.

The problem is how to get the screen to go off and save battery, but remain connected e.g. to WiFi for those of us who receive VoIP calls.

[SOLVED] Backlight doesn't turn off when using TomTom...?

TomTom v7.450
Diamond ROM v1.37.405.1 WWE
Can anyone else confirm that their backlight never turns off whilst using TomTom, regardless of what setting/timeout they've got on the device's Power config page? Whether I'm using it on battery or mains the result is the same - backlight remains on continuously. If I shut TomTom down I then see normal behaviour and the light turns off after the set time.
Interestingly, if I install the very same TomTom CAB on my M600/Prophet it behaves correctly i.e. the backlight turns off after a time. The device remains continuously on, regardless of setting, but then that's what I'd hope for anyway as TomTom is no use if the device is not active.
Given the above, has anyone got any ideas as to why this might be the case, and what I might be able to do to solve it? I really want the backlight to dim as it will save a considerable amount of battery should I be using TomTom on battery... and it would automatically turn it back on when it comes to advised turns etc.
Incidentally, the backlight does dim/brighten in response to changes in the ambient light level so that's at least something - however I tried removing this setting in case that was the problem but it wasn't.
Mathew

I also use TOM TOM on my Diamond..and I think that is normal that the backlight is on when using the navigato..also if you use the Stand Alone navigator the back ligt stays on!
I can't see the use of the navigator with the device in standby..you should buy a car charger so your battery recharge during the utilization of navigator

Backlight doesn't turn off when using TomTom...?
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I have a question, can this problem co-exist with the problem of backlight turning off too fast when making a call, or do these two problems cancel each other ?

MJNewton said:
TomTom v7.450
Diamond ROM v1.37.405.1 WWE
Can anyone else confirm that their backlight never turns off whilst using TomTom, regardless of what setting/timeout they've got on the device's Power config page? Whether I'm using it on battery or mains the result is the same - backlight remains on continuously. If I shut TomTom down I then see normal behaviour and the light turns off after the set time.
Interestingly, if I install the very same TomTom CAB on my M600/Prophet it behaves correctly i.e. the backlight turns off after a time. The device remains continuously on, regardless of setting, but then that's what I'd hope for anyway as TomTom is no use if the device is not active.
Given the above, has anyone got any ideas as to why this might be the case, and what I might be able to do to solve it? I really want the backlight to dim as it will save a considerable amount of battery should I be using TomTom on battery... and it would automatically turn it back on when it comes to advised turns etc.
Incidentally, the backlight does dim/brighten in response to changes in the ambient light level so that's at least something - however I tried removing this setting in case that was the problem but it wasn't.
Mathew
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this is a feature (and a good one) and not a bug. i bet you don't want that when driving, right before a big intersection yr screen go off....
for example,the igo (that's what i am using) give you the option to go by the device or all time on.

KukurikU said:
this is a feature (and a good one) and not a bug.
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If it was a feature I would expect it to manifest itself when installed on both the Diamond and the Prophet (given the common application) - the fact it doesn't suggests to me it is a 'quirk' (not necessarilly a bug) with the way it works on the Diamond. As mentioned, the backlight used to come back on when being advised of any directions etc and would remain until well clear of a junction so if it is a feature it's an unnecessary one!
Sometimes it is not convenient for me to use external power - when riding on my bike for example. And in such circumstances the high ambient light level used to be plenty sufficient for me to see the screen on the Prophet without the backlight being on - this is obviously great for conserving battery power as the light ranks as one of the highest power consumers.
I might see if the TomTom menu is still customisable and, if so, include the 'Backlight Preferences' icon that was present in versions of Navigator prior to v6.
Mathew

As mentioned, the backlight used to come back on when being advised of any directions etc and would remain until well clear of a junction so if it is a feature it's an unnecessary one!
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interesting! didn't know that...doesn't bother the on\off of the screen while navigating in town (lots of instructions)? not sure i'll want all this flickering

Solved it!
In fairness, it seems that it is a TomTom quirk.
Specifically, the application has always (since I've been using it from v5) had a built-in setting for when to turn the backlight the backlight off (or, more accurately, when to allow the device to turn it off in accordance with your time setting) - the options being: 'Always', 'When on a walking route', 'When not charging' or 'Never'. The default being 'Never'.
However, since v6 the button to change this setting disappeared from the menus however given it is possible to customise the TomTom menus and, even better, to include icons from previous versions of TomTom (assuming the feature is still supported internally) I did the following to turn my backlight setting to 'When not charging'...
- Create a file \TomTom\SDKRegistry\TomTom.mnu in the root of the device
- Inside this file put the following:
Code:
MENUBLOCK|BLOCK_MAIN|BTM_DONE|
MENUPAGE|TASK_PAGE1|Main Menu|
MENUITEM|TASK_EXIT_APP|
MENUITEM|TASK_SET_BACKLIGHT|
MENUITEM|TASK_PAGE1|
- Now run TomTom and click the main screen - up will come a menu with two items in it - Exit and Backlight Preferences, the latter will allow you to configure exactly how you want the backlight to behave.
- Quit TomTom and delete the TomTom.mnu file - this will revert you back to the stock menus, but with the backlight setting (permanently) set.
Of course, this process can be used to configure your menus exactly how you want them however I don't know the keys for all the icons - only for those when I last dabbled in v5 - maybe if I can find some time I'll find the others (I haven't Google for them so perhaps these are now common knowledge) such as the MapShare functions that only came in v7.
The reason it the backlight worked as I wanted when installing the cab on my Prophet was because it still had my menu configs from v5 installed on it... d'oh!
I could be alone in wanting to be able to choose how the backlight is managed, but just in case there's someone with the same desire hopefully this'll be some use to you. It does of course beg the obvious question - why did TomTom remove this customisable feature?!
Cheers,
Mathew

youupy! drinks on you!
congrats and yes, i knew from the beginning that i can help you. dhaaaahh. lol!

Interesting, previous versions of tomtom allowed you to adjust the backlight settings within the application.
cant find it in TT7 though

KukurikU said:
doesn't bother the on\off of the screen while navigating in town (lots of instructions)? not sure i'll want all this flickering
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On the contrary; they've handled it handle it very well.
Say you've got your backlight timeout set to 30 seconds then after this amount of time with no activity (direction instructions etc) it will turn the backlight off - you can still see the map outline in ambient light and, most importantly, can easily see the distance indicator to the next direction.
A few seconds prior to the next instruction the light will reilluminate, a few seconds later it will give the direction advice/distance etc and then once you're through the junction it will turn the light off again after 30 seconds.
Of course, when following a rapid series of instructions in, say, a built-up area then the backlight will stay on continuously - each instruction essentially resets the timer. It's only when out on the 'open road' with no isntructions for miles that you'd see the effect.
All said and done, when I've got access to external power I keep the backlight on constantly (that's where the 'Extinguish only when not charging' option comes in) but when I'm running on batteries I need all the power-saving I can get, not least given the limit battery capacity in the Diamond!
Rumpleforeskin said:
Interesting, previous versions of tomtom allowed you to adjust the backlight settings within the application.
cant find it in TT7 though
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As mentioned they dropped the icon in v6 yet still supported the functionality internally - it's just that with no icon you can't change the setting hence the temporary icon-insertion method discussed above.
Mathew

Backlight problem

I'm having this problem with backlight. No matter what I do, the screen automatically dim after 10-12 seconds. I've turned off the all "Turn off screen after so many minutes" (on battery or on AC). I've changed the backlight settings and it still revert.
I've even watch the backlight setting moved back to minimum from max after that 10-12 seconds.
I can't figured out what is overriding the setting. I don't have much installed:
WM 6.1 with
HTC Home
HHC
BatteryStatus
TouchPal
Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2
Any thoughts?

Settings->System->Backlight & Settings->System->Power
To control BACKLIGHT settings, i.e. Backlight Brightness, Backlight timeout, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Backlight
...and check OFF the checkbox in the "Battery power" tab...or leave it checked ON and adjust the timeout
To control SCREEN settings, i.e. when does the screen turn OFF COMPLETELY, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Power
...and check OFF or adjust the timeout for the timeout that takes the device into standby mode
note that the above two settings applets are linked to each other from within via the Menu softkey
if you have already done BOTH of the above, i've no idea why your backlight dims so quickly

You have batterystatus installed and if you go to the preferences in it you have backlight as an option adjust your settings in there.

msg1285 said:
You have batterystatus installed and if you go to the preferences in it you have backlight as an option adjust your settings in there.
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Sweet! That was it. Thanks for the tip.

I don't have batterystatus installed. I do have pockettoolman but it uses regular power and backlight settings.
My issue is even without any reset, the backlight setting automatically resets to default 10s. I change it to 2min, but at some point it will reset itself to 10s. This is without reset or turning phone off. I don't know y it does this but its very annoying!
Any ideas? Thanks.

I am having the same problem as well here... the backlight timeout will automatically reset to 10sec everytime you switch on the phone (not soft/hard reset, just normal power on). I am using ATT Tilt with the offical WM6.1 ROM.
Tried to change the setting directly in Registry using Resco, still the same problem. The value got reset to 10 on the next power on.
Wondering if anyone got a solution to this?
(maybe it's a problem for ATT tilt only....some users posted the same problem in the official ATT forum
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=99891&view=by_date_ascending&page=8 )

I'm having similar problem with back light and also it is very annoying when screen goes black and kills wifi and gps. is there way to keep wifi and gps on when backlight goes off? thanks.
WM6.1 dutty's WWE rom, Att Tilt

ATT Tilt Backlight Fix {Maybe}
I have to put this here
"Making registry changes incorrectly can cause system-wide problems that may require you to re-install WM6.1 to correct them. Making changes at your own risk."
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Well here some settings to try:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight
There are several settings here with the word "Timeout" in them:
Assuming External Power
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ACTimeout
ACTimeoutTemp
ACTimeoutTempUnchecked
Assuming In Battery
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BatteryTimeout
BatteryTimeoutTemp
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked
Make them all 300 for 5 minutes
Now one interesting one...
AutoSensor try changing 1 to 0
Test run....
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Power on/off using switch etc..
Performed soft-reset using stylus...
Display did not timeout after 10 seconds... But is did appear to power off after 5 minutes...
To soon to say how long this will last, but it definately appears to have made a difference and now seems to last longer. Something like 2 or minutes. Go figure

I was pretty happy with the new AT&T 6.1 Rom until this problem came up. The ROM is fast, the battery life with the 1.65xxx14 radio is good.
After a couple of days trying to fix it based on some solutions I found on the internet, I have given up.
No matter what I did, it always came back even with just having exchange push mail and total commander installed only.
Reverted back to WM 6.0 just because of this problem that was very annoying...
Now I am having a problem flashing a different hard spl instead of the 3.56 on my phone for WM 6.0.
Anyway, so, has the problem come back yet?
Thx
Oz

Still no solution to this problem? I'm a little afraid to try registry hack but am getting desperate.
I also now notice volume resetting issues...volume will change on its own accord to different settings...

The registry tweak fixed problem.
Only changed the first batterytimeout to 96 (2 min).
It now timeouts after 2min and survives a soft reset.
Thank you!
tkellytpa said:
I have to put this here
"Making registry changes incorrectly can cause system-wide problems that may require you to re-install WM6.1 to correct them. Making changes at your own risk."
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Well here some settings to try:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight
There are several settings here with the word "Timeout" in them:
Assuming External Power
===================
ACTimeout
ACTimeoutTemp
ACTimeoutTempUnchecked
Assuming In Battery
=================
BatteryTimeout
BatteryTimeoutTemp
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked
Make them all 300 for 5 minutes
Now one interesting one...
AutoSensor try changing 1 to 0
Test run....
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Power on/off using switch etc..
Performed soft-reset using stylus...
Display did not timeout after 10 seconds... But is did appear to power off after 5 minutes...
To soon to say how long this will last, but it definately appears to have made a difference and now seems to last longer. Something like 2 or minutes. Go figure
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Back light issues Mobile 6.1
I have the TILT with 6.1 installed.... My backlight with default to 10 seconds also.. alog with that when I Turn the phone ff using the power button, if I sit there and watch it the backlight will come on with a black screen. Just backlight for no ryme or reason... I also have the issue of the screen brightness going full bright on me. All of these issues have really taken a toll on my battery life. Any thoughts from anyone...

I found that for some reason (probably Battery Status?) my backlight would always revert to 7-seconds when on battery. Every time I changed it via the control panel applet I could then go and see the value in the registry getting changed to 7. If I manually changed the value in the registry it would always revert to 7 after a short while.
I found that removing the 'BatteryTimeout' entry from the registry (HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight) and not touching the Backlight control panel applet (or changing Battery Status) prevents it being automatically updated to 7-seconds and applies the default of 30-seconds.
I am not sure if this will work for you as there seem to be variable results, however for me this works perfectly. I have all my defaults set in my custom ROM so I never need to change Battery Status or open the Backlight applet and the default 30-seconds for the backlight is set.
Andy

Here is a link to a cab to address this issue
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=1&dl_id=269

jgatlin1 said:
Here is a link to a cab to address this issue
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=1&dl_id=269
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Just to confirm I have just extracted the 'backlight.dll' file from the update posted on HTC's website and cooked it into a ROM, replacing the original 'backlight.dll' and it does indeed solve the problem.
I have played around with the backlight control panel applet and opened and closed Battery Status and the delay remains at what is configured - 30-seconds in my case.
Andy

ADB100 said:
Just to confirm I have just extracted the 'backlight.dll' file from the update posted on HTC's website and cooked it into a ROM, replacing the original 'backlight.dll' and it does indeed solve the problem.
I have played around with the backlight control panel applet and opened and closed Battery Status and the delay remains at what is configured - 30-seconds in my case.
Andy
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Scratch what I said in my previous post. With this updated .dll file the behaviour of the backlight is worse. I have done some testing today with the updated 'backlight.dll' file cooked into a ROM and it's painful. No matter what I try the registry values 'ACTimeout', 'BatterTimeout' & 'timeoutsaved' are ALWAYS reverted to a value of 8 once the keylock has been applied. In my case either by Battery Status (keylock on resume) or pressing the today screen icon. This results in the backlight dimming after 8-seconds when on either battery or AC, the only way to resolve is to either go to the backlight control panel applet or edit the registry directly. Hit the keylock though and your back at square one
I have now re-cooked my ROM and replaced the 'backlight.dll' for the previous one and the behaviour returns to normal. So my advice is don't install this patch or cook it into your custom ROM.
Andy

ASCIIker said:
To control BACKLIGHT settings, i.e. Backlight Brightness, Backlight timeout, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Backlight
...and check OFF the checkbox in the "Battery power" tab...or leave it checked ON and adjust the timeout
To control SCREEN settings, i.e. when does the screen turn OFF COMPLETELY, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Power
...and check OFF or adjust the timeout for the timeout that takes the device into standby mode
note that the above two settings applets are linked to each other from within via the Menu softkey
if you have already done BOTH of the above, i've no idea why your backlight dims so quickly
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Thanks so much for this post. I have been trying for days to get my back light to stay on and nothing worked. As it turned out I was only doing the setting in the backlight tab, not the in the power tab.

Finally!
Click Here for the .cab that fixed my unit. I got it off the ATT forum.
NOTE to all... Even this fix did not solve my problem until I checked the boxes to time the backlight. I like the backlight feature on all the time. If I don't want to see the screen, I turn it off.

Lock screen during a call?

How do you lock the screen during a call?
Is there a setting where the screen will automatically lock while I am on the phone?

amot said:
How do you lock the screen during a call?
Is there a setting where the screen will automatically lock while I am on the phone?
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search the market for "procsimity sensor" that does it automatically. there are a few bugs that need to be worked out with it becuase it uses the light sensor it doesnt work real well in the dark but from what I have seem other than that its a pretty good app.

wtphoto said:
search the market for "procsimity sensor" that does it automatically. there are a few bugs that need to be worked out with it becuase it uses the light sensor it doesnt work real well in the dark but from what I have seem other than that its a pretty good app.
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I uninstalled it because I hate auto backlight. It stays dim even when browsing.

chococrazy said:
I uninstalled it because I hate auto backlight. It stays dim even when browsing.
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i personally dont use it but thought he might want it

The lock replacement app, LockBot Pro, as a setting to lock the screen during a call. Not sure about the free version but it's worth a dollar or two.

amot said:
How do you lock the screen during a call?
Is there a setting where the screen will automatically lock while I am on the phone?
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The screen does automatically lock. The timeout is adjustable, but I don't think there's anything in the Settings menu for it.
I use a program called Quick Settings that puts a shortcut on my home screen to a list of modes - each mode can include custom screen timeout values, ringer volumes, etc. One of them is in-call screen timeout.

OK now, I have tried them all now:
Quick Settings
Call Light
Call Daddy
Lockbot
Proximity Sensor
Screebl
Power Manager
and I still can't figure out how to time out the screen duing a call. It's driving me nuts because I hang up on people all the time. Why can't I get any of the above to work on fresh 1.1 + Gumbo kernel?
For all the people out there on a Sprint Hero, what app are you using and what are your settings in Settings> Sound & display> Disable auto backlight and your screen timeout settings.
TIA.

I'm in the same boot and wish I could find an answer. Sprint really screwed up not putting a proximity sensor on the phone.
I have tried "Proximity Sensor" app but it's buggy and I don't like using auto brightness. Just tried "Quick Settings" but can not find any adjustment for time out during call? only the general screen time out.
Does anyone know where this setting is? Could it be only for 1.6 and up?

bubi73 said:
OK now, I have tried them all now:
Quick Settings
Call Light
Call Daddy
Lockbot
Proximity Sensor
Screebl
Power Manager
and I still can't figure out how to time out the screen duing a call. It's driving me nuts because I hang up on people all the time. Why can't I get any of the above to work on fresh 1.1 + Gumbo kernel?
For all the people out there on a Sprint Hero, what app are you using and what are your settings in Settings> Sound & display> Disable auto backlight and your screen timeout settings.
TIA.
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In Power Manager, it's under "Stay Awake" and it's called "During Call."

jonnythan said:
In Power Manager, it's under "Stay Awake" and it's called "During Call."
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jonnythan,
I tried that and it doesn't work for me for some reason. I have diabled auto backlight and my screen timeout is set to 30 sec. What are your settings? Also with Power Manager how long does it take to time out?

bubi73 said:
jonnythan,
I tried that and it doesn't work for me for some reason. I have diabled auto backlight and my screen timeout is set to 30 sec. What are your settings? Also with Power Manager how long does it take to time out?
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I have different settings for different situations. I have it set to 10 seconds while on battery and 1 minute while on AC power. Works fine for me.

bubi73 said:
and I still can't figure out how to time out the screen duing a call. It's driving me nuts because I hang up on people all the time. Why can't I get any of the above to work on fresh 1.1 + Gumbo kernel?
For all the people out there on a Sprint Hero, what app are you using and what are your settings in Settings> Sound & display> Disable auto backlight and your screen timeout settings.
TIA.
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Ever since I switched to a custom kernel, lock during a call has been temperamental. I'm using Gumbo's rom/kernel. For some reason it started working again today. Last night I did switch back to the stock mem kill settings, but I doubt this had anything to with fixing it. Sorry this post is of no help, I just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

Check out the Screen Suite app...
The Screen Suite app is a collection of screen utilities. Features a lock screen that can be configured to lock during a call and has a panel to lock your screen on demand.

proximity sensor works pretty well for me and i dont have auto back light enabled...
im running damage 2.0.7.2

screen suite doesn't disable the notification bar, my ear pulls it down sometimes. i have things in there that launch.

This thread has the "end all" solution which you can just flash to your phone. It removes the "End Call" button from the screen when you're on a call so that you can't do any facial hang ups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672034

How does the screen dimming/time out actually work?

This has always been confusing and I am looking for clarification on the Lock Screen/ Screen dimming, etc.
So I went into the display settings and set it not to turn off for 1 minute. Then I checked the power saving settings just to be sure the screen would not go dim or lock after 5 seconds. That did not work. Then I checked the security settings to see if something was over ridding every other time out setting and I am lost. Either these settings have never really worked since the original note and android/ google is lazy or I am not doing something right.
Dose anyone have a step by step walk through of all the settings that would affect when the screen dimms and when it locks? (Sometimes I am running music through blue tooth and I don't want to the screen to dim for specific applications also. There has to be a setting somewhere because Google Maps does not allow the screen to dim or lock when in nav mode.

Snowleopard1900 said:
This has always been confusing and I am looking for clarification on the Lock Screen/ Screen dimming, etc.
So I went into the display settings and set it not to turn off for 1 minute. Then I checked the power saving settings just to be sure the screen would not go dim or lock after 5 seconds. That did not work. Then I checked the security settings to see if something was over ridding every other time out setting and I am lost. Either these settings have never really worked since the original note and android/ google is lazy or I am not doing something right.
Dose anyone have a step by step walk through of all the settings that would affect when the screen dimms and when it locks? (Sometimes I am running music through blue tooth and I don't want to the screen to dim for specific applications also. There has to be a setting somewhere because Google Maps does not allow the screen to dim or lock when in nav mode.
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I really wish someone would have answered your question. Mainly since I have the same freaking problem.
When the phone app is running, I am constantly getting dimmed, seconds only to do something.
Tonight I was using an app that monitors BBQ temperatures. Always dims to fast. Set the screen timeout for 10 minutes. Still dimmed after 30 seconds or so.
How does this work? I'm not sure the screen timeout setting does anything.

The screen diming feature is part of the auto brightness function and works by using the ambiant light sensor to adjust the brightness of the display. According to the amount of light detected in front of the display.
Screen locking happens when you haven't used your device for a specific amount of time.

iceepyon said:
The screen diming feature is part of the auto brightness function and works by using the ambiant light sensor to adjust the brightness of the display. According to the amount of light detected in front of the display.
Screen locking happens when you haven't used your device for a specific amount of time.
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It dims before it locks. That's what I was referring to. I think the OP was as well.
I set the display for 10 minute timeout. It dims and locks the screen in less than a minute. I can't figure out how to stop it.
Is that a clearer question?

Well my screen dims for some seconds before going out, but, always as per the time I set , for instance, if I set to go out after 5 mins of inactivity, it dims after 4 mins 55 seconds, then goes out, I dont use autobrightness, and I use entertainment mode

It was secure lock time setting.
It was disregarding the screen timeout.