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TyTN II Announced

Just found the following article on the register - looks quite nice!!
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/28/htc_launches_tytn_2/
Cheers
Darren

Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.

More info here
http://www.europe.htc.com/htctytn2.html
Looks very nice...

Well
Its the kaiser, isn't it?

gerald_s said:
Well
Its the kaiser, isn't it?
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Yes, of course.
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Starfury said:
Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.
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Allot of you might not know this but they can upgrade you well before your contract is up. I am getting the kaiser cough cough I mean tilt cough cough I mean 8925 LOL hopefully when it hits the shelves maybe even sooner but it definitely looks like it brings allot to the table.

Is this phone thinner than the TyTn 1?
That would be the only thing that would make me even consider changing.

Think it's marginally thinner. Only by a few mm.
k-c

has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side

Old news...
Seen it already.
Gears has had the review up for a week or so now.
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article727.html
Bloomin' nice piece of kit though...
Or have a look-see direct... http://tytnseries.htc.com/

Most importantly, what nice apps might trickle over to our Tytn 1... ;-) Isn't this baby supposed to have touchflo, business card scanner etc....

looks like its a bit more advanced than Announced..
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_TYTN_II.html
who's got a spare 500quid to buy one

Wondering how the battery life will hold up...
Does anyone have any additional info on the battery life? Seems like it will take a beating with GPS and everything else running...
That being said...I can't wait to get my hands on one
Cheers,

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has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side
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I cant find a decent SNES emu for the hermes.. and also, how are u playing it using the touch screen?

i have PocketSNES 1.12.200 and it runs well, and i use the hardware buttons; Email for jump, Dpad for move ... my point in my post was that i have the DPad on the Right, whereas onthe Kaiser the Dpad is on the Left

I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol! Oh yeah and he also said the unit he played with also had the front cam, so its quit possible att might be intorducing video calling for this unit!

princeasi said:
I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol!
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Get your friend to dump that rom and get it to our talented chefs...

Trust me, it would be a waste even if he had that kinda access to the the phone, I'm the one that hip him to the 8525's, for a min he thought blackberry's and the iphone was the ****, plus hes has no idea about rom dumping, I tried to introduce him to this site and got all confused with the info lol! sorry!

Looks great, but the GPS, camera and tilting screen isn't enough to get me to upgrade just yet. I'll wait till the TyTN III

dang I didn't realize the GBP to Dollar ratio till I saw some of the european pre-order cheapness....then converted it to USD

Trying to decide...

Hi!
This post might seem abit anoying or so but I am trying to decide if I should get this phone now or wait and see what happens with the GPS and the memory issue, I can also state I prolly will be a messaging freak like MSN/Skype and so just dont know how bad that will go with the memory issue... also ofc MP3 / Webradio most of the day at work.
I also want to add I have read everything here from day to day just so you know I am not posting this just for a fast shortcut in my life, I basicly want to get some feedback from ppl that have used this phone more the just a simple review on Google ^^
so... basicly I have some fast questions
1. Do you find the memory beeing an issue if I wanna run MSN/Skype/Music at the same time (ofc Skype / Music aint at the same time but Skype will prolly be online in the backgruond for incomming calls)
2. The battery I also read is somewhat of a issue, also read about the ppl trying to find bigger ones but will it like last 8-10 hours if I use it like in question 1.
3. I also read somewhere that the Basic verison of WM6 dont have as much support for programs like the Pro does? (Not as many programs made for Basic?) and if that is true I have noooooo clue at all
If I come to think of soemthing more later I'll ask again.
Well thx in advance to the ppl that will give me some guidance in my life here during new year times and with to much money in my christmas gifts I wish you all a HAPPY NEW YEAR!
//Belaial

my long road to the s730 wings
I dont know if this will answer any of your questions but I thought it was appropriate enough to post.
I started with the T-Mobile Dash which is indentical to the HTC s620. I broke the screen right away and instead of replacing it I decided to purchase an unlocked version I could use with my T-Mobile account while travelling abroad. (I have since learned I could have just unlocked my Dash) Well broke that screen too...I guess the phone is a bit too wide to be shoved in a pocket. I then purchased an unlocked TYTN II (Kaiser) which is identical to the ATT Tilt but since I had T-Mobile I went for the unlocked version. The Kaiser was a nice upgrade from the s620 since it has a faster processor and WM6 Pro. It also has GPS which I purchased the TomTom software for only to find out that I liked my TomTom in my car better and never used it on the phone. It was nice that the screen tilted but it was like carrying around a lead weight all the time. I also hated the touch screen because it kept hitting buttons when I would use the phone. I then purchased an Iphone and switched to ATT (could have got the tilt in the first place). Hated the Iphone for the following reasons:
1. No 3G
2. Slippery and wants to jump out of your hand
3. Cannot install third party apps
4. No USB connector
5. Email sucked and didnt sync with outlook
6. ITunes wouldnt install on Vista64-bit
I will say that the iphone had an amazing screen and is great for thsoe who want the "wow" factor but for those like me who text and email a ton it just wasnt good enought especially since you cannot install any third party apps.
My good friend owns an s710 and I really love it so i decided to purchase that s730 which is basically a 710 with a faster processor and 3g. I love this phone so far and the only downside is they didnt give it the htc rubber backing my s620 and kaiser had. It doesnt slip though but the rubber would have been nice.
If you are looking for speed I feel it is fast for a smartphone and is faster than the kaiser probably due to a bit smaller screen and less demanding apps. The memory is not a problem and everything seems to work great so far. The battery seems to last twice as long as the kaiser which only lasted a day. I am hoping to get at least two days but with a smartphone more than a day is good. Overall I think the s730 is a powerhouse in a small package. It is what I have been waiting for in a phone. It could be a bit slimmer but I guess I will have to wait for another version Hope this helps!

Yeah thx for the Re:
Might go ahead and order one soon then ^^

yup second day now and battery still has 30% left since it came out of the box (havent charged it once yet). I talked on it all day too but didnt use much of the keyboard or internet/bluetooth. The battery life is plenty good enough!

i wont tell you, that you shouldnt buy this phone, but: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356677

darksider said:
i wont tell you, that you shouldnt buy this phone, but: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356677
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Thx for all replies, I will take everything in cosideration

Hi,
I got this phone only for one week now, but I must say I am amazed. I was going for the Kaiser, but that's too heavy for me to put in my pants
The Wings is still a bit heavy, but it's amazing what it can do. I use it for phone/pushmail/calendar/sms and can type pretty fast on that little keyboard now.
I do however charge it every night, but with regular use of mail I can hold it for 2 days.
The UMTS/HSDPA works flawless and at home / office it switches to WiFi perfectly.
My Audi A4 Carkit recognises the phone and I can even use the Audi software to dial/see diallog (missed/received calls etc), where my Nokia N73 just would only connect and I had to use the N73 keypad.
If only the GPS could also come to live, it is my ideal phone!
Hans

AT&T Tilt touchscreen sux compared to 8125! :(

Ok so I was enjoying my new Tilt, and then today I took both the Tilt and the 8125 outside. What the hell?
The 8125 has what I hear some call a "transflective" property, meaning it reflects light and you can see it decently even in direct sunlight.
But this stoopid Tilt doesn't! This is some BS, and I'm kinda ticked off about it now. I can hardly read the Tilt in direct sunlight, while the 8125 remains easy to see dial buttons and start menu options.
Are the screens interchangeable? Would it just be easier to swap out an 8125 screen with the Tilt's? do they use the same connectors and are they compatible? I mean this REALLY sucks big time

I agree with you, this sux in the tilt compared to my previous 8125, but, the tilt has many other advantages that i don't need to take a second thought to tell the tilt is THE one for me

I'm not giving up my Tilt, I just want to know if I can switch the screens. ???
I would try it myself but I don't want to fry a nearly 500 dollar phone until someone who knows more than I do about both phones chimes in.

no they are no the same size there for you can not just swap them out
the kaisers screen is a bit larger

I have them both right here in front of me, and they measure out to be the same size. Same as 8525, too. Size is not the issue, compatible voltage and connectors is.

Call the guys at Pocket PC Techs and ask.

Umm What kind of Phone Geek is ever in direct sunlight anyway?

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HEY, you know what, that's a great idea They're only an hour away, so maybe they can even do the work for me so I wont have to worry about breaking anything
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Umm What kind of Phone Geek is ever in direct sunlight anyway?
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Oh nonsense lol... I have a very active lifestyle, and PocketPC phones cover a lot of options on the go

Calibrate G-Sensor

Hi!!
Does anyone know a possibiliy to calibrate the G-Sensor? Mine drifts to the lower right :-(
Thank you

this has been brought up on quite a few occasions on different threads... do a search! but as far as im aware there is currently no way to calibrate the sensor.

i want to do the calibration also! hope there will be some solution!

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i want to do the calibration also! hope there will be some solution!
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QUOTE.....

At the moment there is no way to calibrate the sensor...
thats the reason why I send my Diamond back....

everyone saying there sensor is not calibrated right, did you try it without the back cover?
cause when i remove the back cover and play teeter and put the diamond on a flat surface the ball stands still.
If i have the back cover on in rolls to the left side/bottom (if you turn it 90°)
Remember the back cover is not flat!

Jip I know that the back cover is not flat...
but even without cover (on a flat table) the teeter ball doesn´t stand still....

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Jip I know that the back cover is not flat...
but even without cover (on a flat table) the teeter ball doesn´t stand still....
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QUOTE SOB

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is impossible that there is no way to recalibrate !

No problems with mine?
If the sensor causes the teeter ball to move ever so slightly to any side... why on earth would you send your phone back????
Whats wrong with ever to slightly tilting it the other way? Do you play teeter 24 hours a day?
Why would this issue even cause you a problem, right now theres only teeter that uses minute movements. the other apps, gsensor, etc etc, all use large shakes and tilts so these would all work even if your sensor is a tiny bit off..
Pathetic that you would send this awesome phone back simply becuz of a small issue that hardly affects anything!!

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No problems with mine?
Pathetic that you would send this awesome phone back simply becuz of a small issue that hardly affects anything!!
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In my opinion.. If you pay this amount of money for a device like this.. you may expect that everything in/on the device works as it is supposed to.
I have the same problem but at this moment I don't want to send it away for a few weeks.. so i'll wait to see if there will be another solution soon.
sad to see (my opinion) that everybody with a different opinion as yours is immediately pathetic. just because they like to have value for money

®ichard said:
In my opinion.. If you pay this amount of money for a device like this.. you may expect that everything in/on the device works as it is supposed to.
I have the same problem but at this moment I don't want to send it away for a few weeks.. so i'll wait to see if there will be another solution soon.
sad to see (my opinion) that everybody with a different opinion as yours is immediately pathetic. just because they like to have value for money
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Bro,which world do we live in? whats perfect in this world? tiny bugs will always be there,right? if you are or other whingers are in this game then learn to take chances and have bit of patience,i owned almost every pda since they born and own 4 different units right now (O2 flame,treo 750,eten x800,htc diamond) they all have some kind bugs and it annoys me sometimes but i always appreciated that what kind of windows mobile we started with and where we are right now,improved so much and its going to be more and more advance in coming days,for example i have ordered eten DX900 pocket pc phone with dual simcard coming in september hopefully,something new and different introduced in windows mobile pocket pc phone world again but i am expecting many bugs in that too as eten devices are always buggier than any other ones but again i love all this and their efforts.
if some one sent their diamond back over some kind issue that shouldn't even be a matter then they deserve some crapy old nokia.
sorry in advance if i hurt some one's feeling here
cheers

Mine is having this g-sensor issue as well.
I'll be sending it back for repair/service once I get my hands on an iPhone 3G.
If you ask me, anything that's functioning out of specification is something that can be and to be fixed. Doesn't matter what it is. It's simply is a function/feature that you paid for, so why would you pay for it to function "improperly"?

But right now, whats the gsensor been off slightly, actually affecting? You cannot play teeter? all the other apps that are coming out, dont need a super accurate g sensor to work..
that shake to switch profile program, doesnt need super accurate gsensor. same with other small apps like this.
same with the turn over to mute feature.
So no point in sending it back untill its broke to the extent you cannot use it.

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But right now, whats the gsensor been off slightly, actually affecting? You cannot play teeter? all the other apps that are coming out, dont need a super accurate g sensor to work..
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If you cared to actually read what people wrote about issue, it causes spurious switches from/to landscape mode when its not actually desired. I think its actually an issue warranting fix.

Hmmm.
Well i guess the sensor isnt just mis-aligned.. its totally broke. for it to think your tipping the phone sideways and not upright, its not misaligned... your right this does warrant a fix. But this thread is about re-aligning the sensor due to it drifting to the lower right. OP did not state its flipping his screen..

in tweeter i have to tilt my device 20 degrees upwards beofre the ball stops rolling. So the sensor is really off by a large amount, i could live with a couple degrees but this is ridiculous.

Same at my (ex) diamond...
also my diamond had few more problems... so G-Sensor is only one point why I sent it back...

Ok i could be wrong, cause i have the x7500, but for me it recalibrate (current position is 0 degrees) everytime i open up Pocket IE so maybe try laying your phone down on a flat surface and restarting the phone

u SHOULD send it back. i got my Diamond totally replaced. it may be a small issue now, but when new stuff is developed for the G-sensor, then u'll start cursing

Upgrade Advice

I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?

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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.

Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!

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1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard

How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.

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