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Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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I am also in the same boat. I was expecting more from it when it came to playing movies and just overall performance. Don't know if I should return it to newegg and void the att contract. Or if it would be better to keep the contract, sell the phone on ebay, and use that money to buy a different phone.
return them
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
Take It Back
return it...
RETURN IT
why? well the more HTC get returned etc the quicker they will pull their finger out and correct things and not allow such stupid mistakes
Just make damn sure that when you return it; you tell them WHY.
Hmm... The new 8gb Nokia N95 has just come out... Looks rather nice too...
All of you whom own a Tilt / Tytn II, T-mobile or other clone distributed by carriers should return this piece of ****ty hardware when not satisfied with the video performance.
Indeed, AT&T certainly would not have counted on such a return (and loss ) and will raise this towards HTC as loss of business.
Just return the ****ty thing and buy something that does what it's supposed to do.
And, for your own good, never buy anything coming from HTC. They're crooks, hypocrites and arrogant bastards who think that their customers are of a low enough IQ to be mocked in their face and still want to feed HTC money (this is exactly what comes out from their official response to the driver issue).
ahson said:
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
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It no iphone for me....no way. It has the same problems in limited capabilities as you have to convert everything and use itunes….no thanks!
Also, anyone have suggestions besides iphone??????
Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
redsrule2500 said:
no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Yup. I bought my tilt last week so I still have two weeks to decide. I would return it today if i could figure out a replacement that does everything the Tilt does but better. I would personally rather have the Tilt than an Iphone even with the problems, and that nokia isn't doing it for me.
If you don't mind losing the internal GPS and the extra ram you could downgrade to the 8525 (Hermes). Nice thing is that there price has dropped considerably since the Tilt came out. For awhile there AT&T was selling them for $99...so you could probably find another site out there somewhere that would give it to you even better than this.
I'll trade someone my 8525 for their Kaiser
ha, I can't believe what im reading here! are u guys really that bitter. I honestly feel that even when (if) htc releases the fix, MOST of us will not notice a big difference in our daily use. I compare it to a bluetooth keyboard I purchased. before I bought it, I was going crazy, thinking I needed one, etc. once I got it, I don't think I've ever used it.
don't get me wrong, I would love the drivers, but other than that I love my phone. great internet, great gps, full keyboard, etc. there is honestly no other phone id rather have.
My Warranty ends tomorrow. I think im just going to keep the damn thing. Sure the video converting sucks. but, I got the Camera to work (thanks to Navadi), and I havnt watched a movie on my mobile in awhile. At least the reception is flawless. I have better reception than most of my friends and family. with the same provider, AT&T.
In my house NO ONE gets reception. and I can have a full conversation inside my house perfectly.
My brother who owns the Iphone. He has to walk outside in order to talk on his phone.
Oh and yeah the full keyboard is much better than the Iphone at Texting.
Oh and dont get me wrong I am disappointed with HTC with the way they are handling this situation. Atleast be helpful, rather than leaving us with a "F**k you, we got your money, you got what you paid for." what they did was false advertise.
The problem is, in the U.S. The phone is still better than majority of all the other phones out there. OBviously not in Europe. but here. Yeah.
I've had both the iPhone (Returned it) and now I have the TILT...i prefer the tilt.
I know the video situation sucks but I think the phone is still good overall
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Personnaly I have to say that i used palm product for years, and blackberry too, I've been using a QTEK 9100 for two years and now switch to the Diamond and I'm really impressed...
Everything I had to say against any of my preivous machine is 'corrected' in the diamond...
Of course, it's a device running with windows mobile, so it requires tweaking, it's a hardware for geek...
I won't give it to my wife (I bought her a qtek 8500 (star trek)) but it's a really impressive piece of tech (I don't care about the multipoint of the Iphone... I really prefer the zooming option for opera...)
Don't get me wrong, I really understand how a lot of people could get frustrated or desapointed with this, but I had to give my opinion too...
Another Apple shill spreading the good word before the big day this Friday.
Ive noticed more and more of you onthe Internet forums this past week, and its becoming a little transparent now!
Geez! HTC must really have Steve losing sleep at night..
darthbane2k said:
Another Apple shill spreading the good word before the big day this Friday.
Ive noticed more and more of you onthe Internet forums this past week, and its becoming a little transparent now!
Geez! HTC must really have Steve losing sleep at night..
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you are my hero! thanks for saying it so gently...i have a long list of nicknames and curses for moruns that come here to whine only...did i say morons? ooops! i am sorry...
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I must openly convey that HTC Diamond is not a user-friendly phone; nor is it reliable. I have had my handset for about one month and have encountered so many problems that it is disappointing!
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I'm so glad that you took the time to register on this forum and make this post your first.
Another 'Diamond is [email protected]' thread is exactly what we need here.
Thanks for sharing...
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The phone does not work and I now need to travel to a 'service center' so that I can pay for them to repair.
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never heard of warranty right?
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you are my hero! thanks for saying it so gently...i have a long list of nicknames and curses for moruns that come here to whine only...did i say morons? ooops! i am sorry...
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HTC Diamond NOT recommended!
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I quite avidly read through all forums relating to HTC products and fully appreciate the work that alot of more experienced people do within XDA-developers. However...
I must openly convey that HTC Diamond is not a user-friendly phone; nor is it reliable. I have had my handset for about one month and have encountered so many problems that it is disappointing!
Today was the final nail in the coffin for my will to purchase HTC products; my error was that I had unwittingly let the battery die. Now, I can no longer use the handset even using ac charge. The phone does not work and I now need to travel to a 'service center' so that I can pay for them to repair.
Very annoyed that the cost for such a product is so high, it is slow and the manufacture support is very poor. In fact, the only 'good thing' about this phone is its design!!
I have never tried the Iphone, but, I suspect that it is much better than this product.
Please take note!
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will you sell it
harvsHK76 said:
Today was the final nail in the coffin for my will to purchase HTC products; my error was that I had unwittingly let the battery die. Now, I can no longer use the handset even using ac charge. The phone does not work and I now need to travel to a 'service center' so that I can pay for them to repair.
Very annoyed that the cost for such a product is so high, it is slow and the manufacture support is very poor. In fact, the only 'good thing' about this phone is its design!!
I have never tried the Iphone, but, I suspect that it is much better than this product.
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If the Phone is complete empty, it takes some time to charge. If you use not the original usb cable it probably won´t work to charge the phone with the pc, so use the "normal" ac charger and wait at least 10 mins before you try to switch it on.
And yes, the Diamond is probably not the most userfrendly phone. But most people who buy expect a bit more than just a phone.
For me it is the best machine i ever tried. It´s the first phone wich combine the latest technic features with a unbelievable form factor! No windows mobile phone on the market can reach this combination.
Sure, there are o lot of real nice phones out there, wich are better in some points.
diamond recommended
Had my diamond about 2 months got it when it first showed up. This is a fun pda and very reliable for me. The battery is not a problem for me. I have a car charger!!
My daughter has an iphone. Nice phone, not a pda, cant do half of what i can with my diamond. Some features are better on the iphone, but the Diamond overall outshines it. I like a small compact phone. The iphone is big compared to the Diamond. I cant put the programs that i have on my Diamond on the iphone. No iphone for me. Sure I could have 2 iphones (or more) for what i paid for my Diamond, but then i would have two PHONES only. Iphones just dont do it for us PDA people. Hope iphone does good with their new release. Not for those who want a true pda. If anyone just wants a phone...i would choose iphone.
The OP has only 1 post and it's just a post to b!tch and whine about the phone - most likely you either have a dud phone or you have not upgraded the ROM to the latest local/cooked ROM and have not tweaked it to its current (not yet full) potential. Yes the phone does have it's crap here and there but overall it's a good phone.
Hello !
Sorry but he is right - the Touch diamond is NOT a good phone.
By the way - I pay 500 Euro and then must go to a forum and load tons of unsupported HTC Software to get it work the right way ?
HELLO ?
When I buy a phone for this amount it must be just working.
Without any patch.
Just use my finge and the phones touchscreen must do what I want.
It can not be that the phone then takes 2-3 seconds to think about what to do.
The touch screen needs to be tipped with the right strength !
HELLO !
You always blame the iPhone but with this device you use your finger and it does whatit should.
The Touch would be good it it would react on my commands.
It is difficult to use the finger to get internet working. Everytime the finger strikes make land on an other menu
Hey - HTC says a stron 52x MHZ CPU - my old MDA 2 was as fast in the feeling of the GUI.
bull crap!!!
the Diamond is excellent i dont know where you guys fell out of but no hassels at all
Everyone, calm down ;-) I am not an 'apple shill' nor am I a moron! Read my message; I am clearly stating that I (as a not so-experienced user) have had problems that disappoint me with this particular phone! I have had a TYTN also before.
In response:
Andrax: I have installed the 'recommended tweaks' and have had to hard reset at least 5 times! But I do appreciate your response.
Darthbane2K: I had noted that I have never had an iphone before. Take it easy mate! Apple dont pay my wages
kukurikU: thanks for your support!
horstborsch: when you buy the handset in HK, they only cover the actual warranty for 10 days. After that you have to go to the designated 'warranty' center to pay for repair!! Not my fault that CSL are given a contract.
farukb: probably not; though I am disappointed (the actual point of this thread)
Eurosportler: Thank you for your helpful and appreciated post.
BTW: As noted by 'p3eps'; this is my first post.... delete it if you dont like it!
God sake moan moan moan, you are on this forum for a reason right! That is to use the improved custom roms that help bring out the better of the phone. Too many people are impatient and dont read the instructions properly.
I for one will definately keep to this phone and know it has more potential to improve each time with the brilliant cooks coming out with great roms.
If you dont like the phone sell the phone, simple as. You can see on my list of phones that I have been more or less a htc or windows based phone for years and each phone got better and better with new and improved roms.
Im sorry but i back the Diamond to be a great phone and im sure im not the only one.
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horstborsch: when you buy the handset in HK, they only cover the actual warranty for 10 days. After that you have to go to the designated 'warranty' center to pay for repair!! Not my fault that CSL are given a contract.
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really? this sucks!
In germany (I think in the EU too, too bad for the UK) the manufacturer has to give you a warranty of 2 years on every electronic device and the dealer where you bought it 1 year!
69reichertm said:
Hello !
Sorry but he is right - the Touch diamond is NOT a good phone.
By the way - I pay 500 Euro and then must go to a forum and load tons of unsupported HTC Software to get it work the right way ?
HELLO ?
When I buy a phone for this amount it must be just working.
Without any patch.
Just use my finge and the phones touchscreen must do what I want.
It can not be that the phone then takes 2-3 seconds to think about what to do.
The touch screen needs to be tipped with the right strength !
HELLO !
You always blame the iPhone but with this device you use your finger and it does whatit should.
The Touch would be good it it would react on my commands.
It is difficult to use the finger to get internet working. Everytime the finger strikes make land on an other menu
Hey - HTC says a stron 52x MHZ CPU - my old MDA 2 was as fast in the feeling of the GUI.
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@3#...! &***!!! & dhahhh!
Hello!
Sorry to have posted.
darthbane2k said:
Another Apple shill spreading the good word before the big day this Friday.
Ive noticed more and more of you onthe Internet forums this past week, and its becoming a little transparent now!
Geez! HTC must really have Steve losing sleep at night..
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Hehehehhe
Most of them would be completely lost anywhere outside of that tightly controlled apple universe.
Remember second best they are.
69reichertm said:
Hello !
Sorry but he is right - the Touch diamond is NOT a good phone.
By the way - I pay 500 Euro and then must go to a forum and load tons of unsupported HTC Software to get it work the right way ?
HELLO ?
When I buy a phone for this amount it must be just working.
Without any patch.
Just use my finge and the phones touchscreen must do what I want.
It can not be that the phone then takes 2-3 seconds to think about what to do.
The touch screen needs to be tipped with the right strength !
HELLO !
You always blame the iPhone but with this device you use your finger and it does whatit should.
The Touch would be good it it would react on my commands.
It is difficult to use the finger to get internet working. Everytime the finger strikes make land on an other menu
Hey - HTC says a stron 52x MHZ CPU - my old MDA 2 was as fast in the feeling of the GUI.
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Dude get the hell out of here and go make a line for your fruity phone with al those duchessss. I smell fruity fan boy here.
Guys... i have a question for you if it happens that anyone knows ... I've been a Iphone user and sold my Iphone few weeks ago for the Diamond... it is still in delivery so didn't have time to check the responsiveness yet.
Well, the point is that on the Iphone all the touchs had an immediate response and everything was real fast loading. I m guessing that disabling multitasking is having something with this responsiveness but still, do you guys know how much RAM the iphone has compared to the diamond and what CPU that it use. This is only for the sake of comparaison !!!!
I 'm also thinking why would HTC not put moer RAM into their devices as it costs nothing theses days ... having 528Mb or even 1Gb of RAM would make the day of all of us i guess ...
Please correct me if i'm wrong .....
Hi Guys, I don't know too much about the difference in phones, I know I love the HTC Trinity but, my Network is offering me a Nokia E71 as an free upgrade, is it worth it?
I tried to read a little about the Nokia E71 and it sounds good so far however, am I gonna be as happy as I am with my HTC Trinity, is there anything I am gonna miss? I will always be a part of this forum regardless of which phone I use.
its a NICE phone. I think it looks a bit gaudy, but the keyboard's nice. And i've developed an intense hatred of wm, so any cahnge is nice.
fzzyrn said:
its a NICE phone. I think it looks a bit gaudy, but the keyboard's nice. And i've developed an intense hatred of wm, so any cahnge is nice.
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Hi fzzyrn, thanks for replying. It interest me what you said about WM, do you think Symbian OS would be any better before it is cooked? Can you bake/cook Symbian ROM? Hmmmmmmmmmn, I am here doing some serious thinking.
no idea about the rom cooking, but it doesn't seem likely. You see, alot of higher end nokia users are businesspeople, and nokia is generally pretty good about software optimization.
i dont like that i have to install a whole bunch of software to get my phone the way that i want it when the e71 (or e61i in my case) already comes with pretty much everything that i use. Also, i've found touchscreen wm to be a bit difficult to use.
the question is, what do i use?
The answer- calender, alarm clock, phone, contacts (alot of them), sms, email.
i wont say the wm isn't "fun", but for the kind of stuff i do, its not particularly easy to use, and i get impatient waiting for the slide keyboard to change screen orientation.
What netowrk you on, if you haggle a bit, you might be able to get the Diamond if they offer it.
I used UIQ (so symbian, but not exactly S60) amd it was great. I had a P1i and it was touchscreen. It worked fine for what I wanted, but was a bit slow in opening things.
Overall, for calendar, contacts email, the small things symbian is ok, for word, excel, long periods internet browsing, stick with wm
Rory
Free E71 upgrade? Take it dude!h
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Free E71 upgrade? Take it dude!h
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LOL, I wanted to take it, the network sales rep made it seems like the best thing since slice bread. I will take it then, to be honest i wanted to wait a bit longer to see if they'll carry the Diamond. I don't think Three UK is gonna carry the diamond anytime soon.
From what I've heard, they are best suited for Symbian Operated Phones. My Trinity is actually from Orange (got it from my wife, she had issues with the touchscreen) but i unlocked it and now I am using it on 3 uk.
The TYTNII is the only wm phone they carry and I heard it isn't going too well on the network.
Oh well, I wanted a diamond but a E71 will work just fine I guess. I use my phone mostly for business (email, contacts, calendar task, notes, etc.) I don't use the MS Office application that much, all that could wait untill i get to the Office. I do surf the web a lot though especially when I am out on site. I really appreciate the feedback on the subject
yep. go ahead and get it.
send me your trinity if you want hinthint.
Send me the E71 if you don't like it, hinthint.
I have more posts than he does hinthint.
REAL subtle.
Bump...I have more posts than above!
touche, galaxys. touche.
yet i have more posts per day.
Sorry guys, sorry to disappoint you all but my wife wants to have a go at the Trinity again. Sorry!
I am going to Order the Nokia sometimes this week and see how it goes, at least if i don't like it I can send back if it is under 14 days. I'll keep you posted.
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Sorry guys, sorry to disappoint you all but my wife wants to have a go at the Trinity again. Sorry!
I am going to Order the Nokia sometimes this week and see how it goes, at least if i don't like it I can send back if it is under 14 days. I'll keep you posted.
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if you get it for free, of course, take it.
using it is a different story. i used nokia for several years (symbian 60 and 80) but since i am used to WM and the forum here, no chance for nokia anymore (only for my wife)
I have another thought guys. Check this out, I can now switch network and go with o2, get an iphone or stick with 3 and get a Nokia E71 or a TyTnII.
The Nokia 71 is new, iphone 3G is new and the TyTnII is old, been out since 2006 I think. The iphone I would have to pay some money for but that unlimited data plan and hotspot is a bit interesting to me. It is getting a bit complex for me now.
what do you use your phone for?
if you're heavily into business and calender, stick with the e71
if you're a "birkenstock wearing, clove-smoking vegetarian hippie" (not my words, 500xp if you can identify origin), get the iphone. Actually if you listen to music pretty heavily and you don't mind the software keyboard, get the iphone.
DON'T get the kaiser. What with the age, the video drivers (the mobile division of ati closed down, its that bad...) and the size, its not particularly worth it.
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what do you use your phone for?
if you're a "birkenstock wearing, clove-smoking vegetarian hippie" (not my words, 500xp if you can identify origin), get the iphone. Actually if you listen to music pretty heavily and you don't mind the software keyboard, get the iphone.
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I've been hearing that phrase since college and to be honest, I never knew where it came from. I was busy googling the phrase and still haven't found its origin, i give up, you are gonna have to do me a favor and tell me.
its a term that the Princeton Review uses to describe the most politically liberal schools and institutions.
There may be another origin, but this is the one that i picked it up from.
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its a term that the Princeton Review uses to describe the most politically liberal schools and institutions.
There may be another origin, but this is the one that i picked it up from.
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It would have to be one of them Ivy Leaguers huh?
I've put a entire twist in this phone hunting thing. I just happen to Call a certain network about their phones and plans and guess what? When I got off the phone to them, there is a diamond on it's way to me, will get it Tuesday. 700minutes, unlimited text, free htc diamond all for £30 a month. Did I mess uip or did i get a deal.
I was looking forward to the Nokia E71 but, the screen too small, got used to a bigger screen. The keys are too small, I kept hitting a few of them at ones. Other than that it is a great phone. Someone told me not to use the touchflo on the diamond and I'll be ok. Is that true?
The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
I paid almost 800$ for a great phone that I expected a lot out of, what did I get? A phone that worked for 20 days and then ****ed up. The entire phone just does not connect when it is not plugged into the wall outlet, and I've used another battery and it still does the same thing, it's a piece of ****.
For the past month I've been trying to get the damn thing to work, I've treated it like a diamond because I've paid as much as I would.
It was awesome for the first 20 days, but now it's useless unless connected to an adapter. Amazing. Mobilecityonline the guys i bought it from are willing to repair it on warranty but it will take 4-6weeks, THATS MORE THAN A MONTH.
I'm ending with my illusion of WM powered phones, goin to the iphone which has basically the same features, not all the looks but god damnit, the tech support is great, and the phone does not lag, and you don't need to cook roms to get the damn thing to work faster.
This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
So it was awesome until it broke? Why not just get it repaired then?
Hardware fails from time to time, do you think the iphone is bullet proof? You say you've been trying to get it working for the last month, well if you'd just had it repaired under warranty you'd probably have it back by now.
No, 6 weeks is more than a month. That's far too long for a phone to be in repair. The company was ****ty, that's a given, but the phone ****ed up.
My sister has an iphone and has had it since it came out. The thing with apple is, you can walk into an apple store down the street and walk out with a brand new phone. Repairs take 1 day.
HTC America was really nice and offered the European hotline, but they agreed that if I sent it out to them it would take more than a month, 2-3 apparently. And they cannot send me a new phone but would have to repair this one.
I thought this phone was bullet proof, people f'ing compared it to the iphone. It's an amazing phone, but not worth 700$.
And to get even the basic tools from diamond you need to jailbreak the iphone or use the 2.0 appstore(not the good solution)
haha nice one mouseymousey made me chuckle!
good luck with your iphone mate, you'll soon come running back! 'basic'illy has the same features just about sums it up! and make sure you have a good belt to hold your trousers up! ahem.. BRICK lol
like mousey says, hardware can break down, lifes not perfect mate!
if your fridge breaks down are you going to switch to only eating tinned food?
How so? What basic tools does the diamond have that the iphone does not? What are we missing here? Jailbreaking is meaningless anymore because i'm already on the network with the iphone. You still have to pay for WM applications, it's not like the appstore is killing you.
Sorry double posted on accident. Anyways. I'm sorry, everyone on this board has been great, but no one anywhere on the internet could help me solve this problem, and HTCs best support told me to "hard reset" amazing.
I've just realized that WM is too much trouble, and HTC products are and will always be far too expensive for what you get. If the unlocked iphone cost about 700$ with 4/gigs of internal storage people would be ****ing pissed. But nothing about HTC but rather its a supposed competitor. Failed to impress.
Also, hardware does not break down in a matter of days of you getting it, that's ridiculous, that's showing the quality build of the product being really ****ty. Honestly, If i got a fridge from sears, that broke down in a weeks time I would not get the same brand again. The problem is that every product that you get has to work for atleast a couple of months and you have to do something to do it for it to breakdown. For god's sake, I haven't bought a single product that I couldn't fix, this is literally a hardware failure, that wasn't warranted, I didn't even touch the phone the wrong way, I swear to you I have had it in a case as thick as my wallet. It's ridiculous. If you call it a random breakdown that happens every now and then, **** that. 700$ is a lot for me. And a months time for repairs isn't gravy.
bye bye then
ta tar then!
car navigation, copy - paste, does not even exist... good pushmail etc. exchange stuff... remote desktop, video recording, crappy speeds compared to htc on connections, even with the new 3g... just to name few...
i love the use of iphone, theres no comparison to that, but featurewise its no match for diamond
iphone can melt...
Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...it's posted on a dutch website which found an article from an american user....
If you don't believe me, here's the link to the dutch website:
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/iphone-3g-wordt-ook-erg-heet-en-kan-zelfs-smelten-t3131.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5943855&postcount=288
So you'd better think twice before you buy the Iphone...
greetzz Jeroen
oh yes, the '3g' phone that CANT make video calls?? errr, whats the point!!!? haha
iphone sucks big time!
There are so many good reasons to switch to the iPhone (useability, following the masses, trying to look cool, for example), but "because my phone broke" is not one of them when you consider that iPhone users have just been complaining about that very issue - and I'm not speaking about activation problems...
Anyway, have fun. Good luck with the battery.
I'll stick with the Diamond. Its features simply blow the iPhone out of the water. Most importantly for me is that I can easily write my own apps for it.
Car navigation does exist the new 3g has built in GPS. Copy and paste is released with the new 2.1 firmware, mobileme is up and running, HTC's wifi blows donkey, 3g is fast as hell on the iphone.
And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...
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So they found the TRUE reason to the clobal warming... iBlaah
Hi Intradvocate, can you please confirm that 6 weeks is longer than a month?
Sure, 31 days in a month (average) 7 days in a week, 4.4 weeks in a month. (divide 31 by 7)
Intradvocate said:
The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
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This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
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I can't help noticing that if the same thing happened to your iphone you would be probably writing similar post. Honestly WM6 is for professional and semi-professional users, perhaps closer to blackberry so if you were looking for an iphone like alternative it was a mistake. I am under no peer pressure in terms of "coolness"- the HTC SD must perform efficiently the business tasks that I throw at it and honestly there is currently no better alternative for my needs.
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And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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True, on iPod touch and non 3g iPhone, unfortunatelly the 3g version has not been the best quality from apple... this is quite tough place to get sympathy when changing to iblaah...
So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
Maybe get a fuze that works properly? I really have no suggestions other than that.
The best phone to get would obviously be the Fuze. However, if you want some money, then i suggest you get an iPhone (16gb), sell it on eBay and then you'll have a lot cash to buy a new phone (and even have some left over).
Good to know iphoney is out of the question!
If looking for something not too expensive I would recommend Universal because it´s great keyboard and screen!
If $ is not a problem check Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2
Good luck,
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So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
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Goes to show that WinMo is not for the weak, the noob, and the ones who don't have time. Get a Blackjack or something. that would suit you.
Btw, I think by any phone, the guy would've probably meant that any phone from at&t and I still find your story highly unlikely cause normal people do not get calls from anyone "VERY" high so to say even if you've been a customer of AT&T since it began. I highly doubt it. But sure, I suggest only 3 phones for you. BB Bold, BB Curve, Samsung BlackJack.
If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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AT&T is not selling those phones yet.
and yeah, that story is unlikely, not saying you made it up, but the person was probably a tech support supervisor, or manager.
get the iphone. if the X1 is sold through AT&T(which i dont think it is) then get that, other then that, if you dont like to customize your phone, dont get a HTC, get a LG incite or something of that nature.
the person who called me was the Vice-President of Customer Support, I found her email adress on AT&T's website and sent her an email. Got a call 3 days later I can post the link if you guys don't believe me
I do like tinkering with my phone, but only to an extent. I need a long battery for everyday trips, and I need a phone with great signal strength.
I have been with AT&T for 8 years, landline and cellular service. And my Dad's side of the line holds the entire companies phone systems, and theres around 1500 phones. AT&T would not want to lose business
Alright, so a little update, and this was great.....
I get....
A brand new Blackberry Bold
I get to keep my Fuze
And I get 200 dollars in credit
Sell the blackberry,
get a new Fuze thats not defective
Send me the credit for my bills!