Battery discharges too quickly - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

I have a Qtek 2020i and recently it got a serious battery problem. On a sudden the main battery started loosing its charge too early. It can become from 100% to 30% for a night (whan no operations are performed on the device). Before this breakdown the battery was loosing approximately 5% per night. At daytime when I use the machine, this process is quicker.
I use the battery for more than a year but the reason of the problem is not a battery. By the end of the day the meter shows 0% of the main battery (when in cradle, of course). Meanwhile the backup battery remains 100% and hard reset is not performed. If the main battery would really be 0%, I would loose all my data, but it never happens.
After I put my device in the cradle, it is "recharged" to 100% for less than an hour.
I made a hard reset of my device and after it the meter worked well. But after restoring the data from backup the problem reappeared.
I have some other problems that may be related to the battery problem. The Camera.exe looses its label in Programs and stops starting by pressing hardware button.
The device is loading slower after soft reset.
I change time for one Alarm. It works not only in the new time but also in all the previously set times.
There is a thread where similar problems were discussed, but there is no solution for the battery problem. Here is its link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282763&highlight=battery
The problem may be in the register or in the battery driver or wherever. Please, someone help me and describe the solution for the other users of Apline.

Sounds to me like your battery is knackerd it does happen look on e-bay loads of places (usually in Hong Kong) selling new ones maybe even get a uprated one the standard one in the XDA IIi is a 1300Ah they do sell 2400 and even 3600 Ah ones I am in the process of buying a 3600Ah one myself, they are not a vast fortune (around £15 GBP) and worth that.

I have an upgraded battery myself. The computer behaves with it like with the 1300. Only the bigger battery discharges slower. But still quicker than few weeks before. This is a software problem and it disappears after the hard reset. But i don't want to make a hard reset and reinstall all my programs from zero. Besides, the problem can reappear. So, this is not a solution.

Software cannot run a battery down alone unless you have something permanatly turned on, that would be your choice.
if there is a hardware fault that could

Moses_Ivanov said:
I have an upgraded battery myself. The computer behaves with it like with the 1300. Only the bigger battery discharges slower. But still quicker than few weeks before. This is a software problem and it disappears after the hard reset. But i don't want to make a hard reset and reinstall all my programs from zero. Besides, the problem can reappear. So, this is not a solution.
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i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit

The most likely option is that wireless is on and not being indicated by the led or on the display, go into connections and see if it shows or better still see if your laptops wireless connection can see the phone, sometimes the indicator does not show but it is active.

skeeve666 said:
i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit
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I never made an update of my firmware. Dou you mean a hard reset by reinstalling the firmware or some updating (new ROM version etc)? The batteries come without any firmware. My ROM version is 1.11.00 WWE. I guess, there must be an update, but after updating the ROM I will lose all the date on the device, and I don't want this happen.

robsno said:
The most likely option is that wireless is on and not being indicated by the led or on the display, go into connections and see if it shows or better still see if your laptops wireless connection can see the phone, sometimes the indicator does not show but it is active.
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I made a test and my wireless is not on.

i ment the rom, sry i deal with pc`s all day and it tends to stick.
yup update the rom, this may be your porblem, but make sure you do not update it on a vista pc, as it wont and you will end up stuck in boot loader mode. only update on a XP machine.
failing that its a buggered battery

Now I will not do anything that can make me reinstall my programs (as i have many). I am looking for some registry key, a checkbox, a process to be killed to solve the battery problem and leave the whole system inchanged.
I already have a solution, but I am not satisfied with it. Thgat is to make a hard reset no backup. Naturally, I will have to reinstall all my programs after that.
This solution has two bad points:
1. Reinstallation of all programs. That is a several days of work.
2. I will not know the reason of the failure. If the problem keeps returning in future, I will have to repeat the whole process again and again.
After the hard reset the meter works good, so I am syre that the battery is not buggered.

I am begining to wonder if you have a virus in it causing the problem? do you have any AV software?

what software do u have on it that will take several days to reinstall? there may be some compatablitly problems with the programs fighting for resorces.
and if you do a hard reset u may as well update the firmware.
i have just installed a new touch screen on my dads 2020i (his second in 3 months) and had to reinstall over 16 programs and that only took 30mins including removing and resoldering the new touch pannel. his backup battery is dead ;[.

McAfee VirusScan McAfee VirusScan

I tested my device with Airscanner Mobile AntiVirus Pro and McAfee VirusScan. They did not find anything, as I had expected.
I also made a hard reset to my device and switched my batteries several times. The device was recognizing them and showing correct information about their state. Both batteries worked long and short periods of time. So, the batteries are perfectly alive as well as computer hardware.
I use my PPC extensively, as we are not allowed to have pirate software on office computers. So I often prefer the Pocket PC to the Desktop one. I have more than 50 programs installed on my Pocket PC: maintenance tools, GPS programs with maps and waypoints, a reader, a player with plugins, a dictionary with the complicated installation procedure, some games. The list is not full. The setups for all of them are situated in different places. I would also have to copy my contacts and appointments. These are not hard jobs, but there is too many of them.
Besides, I am not as proficient as you, skeeve666.
If I don’t find a solution for my problem, I will reinstall my software in the weekend. That will help me to make rearrangements in it. By the way, do you know, where the newest firmware is? Anyway by looking for the answer to the battery question I learn more about my device.
Who knows, maybe I am lucky.

Moses_Ivanov said:
I tested my device with Airscanner Mobile AntiVirus Pro and McAfee VirusScan. They did not find anything, as I had expected.
I also made a hard reset to my device and switched my batteries several times. The device was recognizing them and showing correct information about their state. Both batteries worked long and short periods of time. So, the batteries are perfectly alive as well as computer hardware.
I use my PPC extensively, as we are not allowed to have pirate software on office computers. So I often prefer the Pocket PC to the Desktop one. I have more than 50 programs installed on my Pocket PC: maintenance tools, GPS programs with maps and waypoints, a reader, a player with plugins, a dictionary with the complicated installation procedure, some games. The list is not full. The setups for all of them are situated in different places. I would also have to copy my contacts and appointments. These are not hard jobs, but there is too many of them.
Besides, I am not as proficient as you, skeeve666.
If I don’t find a solution for my problem, I will reinstall my software in the weekend. That will help me to make rearrangements in it. By the way, do you know, where the newest firmware is? Anyway by looking for the answer to the battery question I learn more about my device.
Who knows, maybe I am lucky.
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like is said if you hard rest u may as well flash your firmware, and you said u hard reset.
why is this a problem? and no offensese and no need for you to take one, as you already have. but i realy dont see why you wont try this as you have already "factory reset" aka hard reset your phone. but after a reflash backups wont work.
as for the latest firmware just look in the update section. you must not update in vista only on a xp pc.
but after all this, it may just be a hard ware prob that only effects your battery monitoring

The reason why my battery was discharging so quickly is not known to anyone, including the staff of a service center. So, I made a backup of a faulty system (as a memory) and did a hard reset.
After a day of installing over 50 programs my computer is better than ever. I did not dare to install some other firmware but I placed as much data as possible to the Storage Card and now I have a maximum of 50 Mb free Program memory and 46 Mb of Storage memory. I upgraded some programs and improved the work of the other.
I am thankful to everyone who showed interest to my battery problem. I wish everyone good luck in using Qteks.

do you have a link to a 3600 mAh battery?

skeeve666 said:
i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit
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Is that batterry much more thicker than original one? Could you upload a small photo to see how your device is look like with that battery installed?

Isteban said:
Is that batterry much more thicker than original one? Could you upload a small photo to see how your device is look like with that battery installed?
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unfortunaly this was a while ago, and that battery was set for recylcing, but it is alot more bulky it sticks out about 4-5mm i have gone with 3 original batteries just have to swap them out

I bought a 3600mAh battery from Hong Kong was about £9.99 if I remember right but it came with a new back to cover the thicker battery and that battery lasts me up to 48 hours provided I dont leave the screen turned on best thing I have done for it IMHO
did some digging and I put this in another post
think this is the link
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/battery_centre/
it cost £9.99 plus I think it was £4.99 P & P

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Should removing the battery reset time and date

Hi,
As the title says really.
I removed the battery today and upon powering it back up the time and date were reset.
Surely there is an internal battery to keep these settings isn't there?
davidlucas said:
Hi,
As the title says really.
I removed the battery today and upon powering it back up the time and date were reset.
Surely there is an internal battery to keep these settings isn't there?
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mine does not reset, but how long was your battery out? I have heard conflicting reports about an internal battery, some say yes, some say no, cant say for sure
Hi Shogun,
You have replied to my posts under your beta software posts as this was where I first noticed that my phone crashed twice and on reboot the time/date reset.
Now today i removed the battery for about a minute while I changed the sim card and the time/date reset itself again.
Trying to isolate the why its doing it.
has anyone taken their wizard apart to see if there truly is an internal battery? some people said that according to the service manual there is a spot for it... If there really is an internal battery then i would vote its dead, if there isnt one then i have no clue
Mine is brand new (less then a month) and it ALWAYS resets when i change battery (sometimes i can change itin 4 seconds and it still resets). I also have used a few programs that can detect backup batteries and 2 of them show none.
mine hasn't reset when I've pulled the battery out in the past
Thanks for the replies.
Now some do some dont now this is confusing.
I'm using a Qtek 9100 maybe thats the difference, what are you using?
I have an O2 Xda Mini S and it's also resetting.....
This is a known issue with a lot of native WM5 devices and is caused by the very small capacitor that is supposed to power the clock for some seconds while you change batteries. I don't think anything can be done.
Menneisyys said:
This is a known issue with a lot of native WM5 devices and is caused by the very small capacitor that is supposed to power the clock for some seconds while you change batteries. I don't think anything can be done.
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well you could in theory replace the cap with a battery... but you wil have to have mad soldering skills and the schematics (or repair manual possibly) and tiny battery, or maybe you could mode the case to hold a watch battery or 3 lol

Battery Diagnostics

Hello,
I have upgraded my Imate PDA2k ROM Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 by baniaczek for about a month now. It has been working perfectly fine with no much issues on Wifi and other stuff. But since last one week i see my battery runs out within 3 hours and each time i had to re-charge the same. Even though the usage is really minimal. ( May be 2 or three calls and no real PDA usage). Also i feel the device is heated up most of the time. Are there any diagnostic tools for battery ?. .. Is this caused by any program running continously.
Any suggestions to find out the battery problem.
It is probably a running program or some activated interface (GPRS, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi). Make sure they are all deactivated.
Thanks for the reply. I have tried disabling BT/WiFi / GPS ( even deleted GPS Connections ). Still the battery runs only for 3 to 4 hours. How can i figure out which of the applications might be causing the problem ??..... ( As i stated in my previous post things were fine two weeks back ). I can not figure out!... Can this be a hardware problem ?. Should i try flashing the ROM again ?.
Any suggestions will be of great help.
Thanks.
Is the backlight always on?
No. I think its a hardware problem. I flashed the ROM again and still the battery was draining really fast. Anyways i will change the battery now and check.
regards
Perhaps the battery is getting life expired. THe most common indication of expiring battery is that it stats taking longer to charge and gets drained faster...Try replacing the battery..
Your right but it shouldn't happen in so great leap. You said that you flashed another ROM. Try doing master reset and leave the device in factory-fresh state - do not restore anything from backup imediately. If it is fine then, it is a software problem. If it is not, try turning on the flight mode for determining if it is GSM related. I'm afraid that a new battery won't solve anything.
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i'm guessing that your IR is turned on since you did not state it on your post earlier!
IR eats your battery like pacman does.
bara_too said:
IR eats your battery like pacman does.
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It would still be interesting to have battery diagnostics software. Does anyone know of such a package?
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/batterytests.html?en
might be useful for testing.. could potentially try different screen brightness and speeds to get a comparison. I will say that I used to only get 1 day from my old OEM battery.. got one of the e-bay special 2500mAh and now it easily gets 3 days with the same usage pattern as before..
After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.
cbark2 said:
After a long time again a re-post on this. Well my problems seems to be not getting over. I flashed the PDA2k to factory state and still the battery was draining. Then next obvious thing was to replace the battery. Now i have a brand new battery and reflashed again to factory state and my fears are coming true... still the battery drains in 3 hours... what next guys ?.
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have you checked ur infra red setting? make sure its OFF! i think, it is turned on as default after flashing! or maybe your charger is defective! try someones charger!
IR disabling has not helped in the past. But i tried again but no much use. The equipment is heated up during normal usage time. Is there any thing more i can try before my BA becomes a history. ( BTW. the repair center refused take anything other than the screen changes and battery replacements. !!.. )
Any one having any idea how to reset the bios ?. I think my battery problems are related to trying out the Trial Version of Pocket Hack Master to overclock the PDA. I have uninstalled it long time back and may even have performed three to four times ROM updates but may not have reset the software's overclocking settings back .. ?!!...
BTW. The service center argued out that the any ROM updates other than official Imate ROM will void the warrantee and twice they returned without repair and attributed the the problem of heating to ROM updates... ( without even checking!! ...
I faced the same problem when attempted to upgrade my Harrier. I agree, that there must be an error somewhere in the device BIOS that cannot be that easily reflashed. Unfortunately, I could not find any solution and had to replace the useless phone that drained the battery within 4-5 hrs.
Yes the over clocking eatsup the battery as well as causes heating up the device. So better dactivate the over clocking..

Battery lifetime

Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
matkinson said:
Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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mine is significantly shorter than when i was in WM5. but not as bad as yours. try this. go back to WM5 and see if it still gives u 2days.. then go back to wm6. then if u still get 12hours max with the same usage as you have with wm5.. then it's the ROM.
if you get poor batt life even going back to wm5, then maybe it's the battery. consider borrowing a battery, or buying a new one..
Are you sure your battery can stand only 12 hours ? it's too short. Try to reduce thre brightnes to save the power of your battery.
Ta for the suggestions.
I already have my screen brightness adjusted, and auto power off as appropriate.
Battery is the original, but behaved with 2003. I have two Himalyas (bought the second off a colleague for £40 as nervous about playing with ROMs!) and so two original batteries; both behave the same. I also inherited an aftermarket battery which is truly awful - goes haywire after down to ~45%.
I did try WM5 for a while, and don't recall the battery problem. As I have two devices, switching one to WM5 and comparing is a good suggestion. Unfortunately I need one application (NotifyLink - see thread in the WM5 forum) that I've not been able to get working in WM5, and *does* work on WM6, so if I need to go back it's WM2003SE for me :-(
Before trying to flash back to an older rom, consider some other battery saving options.
Lowering your screen brightness was a good idea, which you have already done.
Some other things to consider:
Turn off "Receive All Incoming Beams" until you actual need to receive something via bluetooth/IR.
Turn off bluetooth if you are not using it (this used to be a massive drain on my himalaya)
After closing a program, go to the task manager and make sure it is actually closed. THe cross in the top right hand corner usually just shrinks things. You can buy/download applications I believe that will actually properly close a program. I've on occasion had 8 progrms running at the same time simutaneously before closing them.
Make sure the terminals on your battery and himalaya are clean (where the battery connects) and also test to make sure your battery is seated correctly.
Change the timeout for your device (IE how long it will wait before turning its backlight off, and then turning off in full). Mine is set to 1 minute. You can set it as low as 30 seconds but I didn't like this as I felt it would wear out the backlight.
If I think of more I'll come back and write them. Perhaps someone has already made a "Save battery power" post. If not, perhaps someone will make one and the mods can sticky it.
cheers
The battery is geting life expired. Better buy a new battery..
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
If I've besmirched either of the ROMs published on this forum then please except my apologies - I discovered that my battery problems are NOT due to the ROM. But nor are they due to my battery!
Re-Flashing (or hard reset with reboot options) gives me good/normal battery usage. I therefore figured that my problems _must_ be due to an installed application. It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink, which I unfortunately need to install in order to receive my corporate email. With this present I lose approx. 6% battery power every hour(!), even with GPRS disconnected and the application not checking with its server. Just installing (even before configuring) the application I get this immense battery drain. Weird. Removing my SIM card doesn't help. Neither does uninstalling; I need to hard reset before battery consumption returns to being acceptable.
As I need this application it looks like I need to accept the need to top-up every evening.
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
i recently replaced my battery for a new one. it was near 3 yrs old and it's battery life was steadily decreasing lately, shutting off just about 6 hours after a full charge! when i bought a new one it shuts of at 5% on the same rom and operating conditions, nice huh!?. so as a rule of hand slash of around 15-25% of battery life for every year of use. better yet save up for a new one while your on it .
matkinson said:
It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink,
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Good job. As you can see on notifylink's newsletter they're very specific on devices fit for the job, for example not just any Wing, but TMobile Wing...
http://www.notifycorp.com/intheloop/index.htm
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
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As far as I know all you need for direct push is correct settings of exchange server and a device with WM5 or WM6 with built in MSFP or WM2003 with Global Contact Access installed. MSFP should probably be in your WM6 ROM unless your cook cut it out. In that case you can either try to find it in the ROM kitches of recent HTC devices and see what happens if you cook it into Hima ROM yourself. I don't know which file(s) you should use. Or you can download GCA and see if it works on your WM6 Hima.
Maggy - Many thanks for the response. Yes NotifyLink do recommend specific devices, but I've no idea if their battery consumption is any better. I do see from various postings here in my company that I'm not alone with problems - generally advice is to just check with the server less frequently, etc, which doesn't solve my issue. I'm going to have to live with this inefficiency for the moment.
As regards DP, I'll await with interest my company's progress in moving to this technology. Thanks for your information!
I have similar problem since WM6 Tofclock ROM is installed - getting just about 24hours battery life....Although the battery is quite old the Rom has definetly some incidence on this --- I have installed batti 2.1 following some threads i found here, hope it will help
Actually, I found out the same strange thing, while I was trying to solve another problem. I changed almost all of the OS/Radio Roms combinations, and with WM2003 the battery time when the phone is in stand-by is significally greater than with the WM2005 or 2006 Rom (days vs hours)... and this happens with every radio rom.

Overheating problem

My athena start overheating and when that happen the battery is draining very, very fast, faulty hardware or faulty battery what do you think?
I think you have the bluetooth and wifi ON, and the screen backlight at near full brightness ! if not you might be looking at faulty hardware, but I would hard reset it first !
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I think you have the bluetooth and wifi ON, and the screen backlight at near full brightness ! if not you might be looking at faulty hardware, but I would hard reset it first !
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Thanks for your advice, bluetooth is always on, the screen backlight is half the scale and it is not associated with wifi because i don't use it to much.It appears that i have to send it for repairs...
Something in the background?
I had this with a different PDA and there was a process always running in the background that used all the CPU time. Is your microdrive always running? (You can hear a whine if you hold it to your ear). Is something you've installed accessing it a lot (eg a today plugin)?
I presume you've tried a soft reset. Have you tried a hard reset? Try it, and install programs to Storage Card or built-in memory and see if that helps.
If it still does it after a hard reset and no software installed, then yes, it has to go back.
Agreed hard reset. Eliminate software potential problems. Then reseat your battery. If neither work then if under warantee send it all back. If not under warantee I'd be tempted to spring for a new battery. I had what I think was a battery problem similar to what you describe.
Thank you, for advices!
I have just hard reset my Athena and now is time for testing various software combinations.
All my programs are installed in main memory, i use microdrive only for storage purposes...
c1oudrs, could you tell me how to reset battery? it sounds very interesting
What I mean by reseating your battery is just to take it out, let it cool down, put it back in when cool. Dont be alarmed if you have to try to reseat your battery a couple of times to get the power back as it has to fit just right\be latched in just right, but the Athena battery is made to come out/be swapped out. You might want to read p23 and 24 in the users manual. In regaards to hard reset, back up your device as a hard reset will wipe everything that isnt in the rom. p228 in the manual for the hard reset. Taking out the battery shouldnt make it hard reset only soft reset but I would back important info up before taking the battery out anyway. And do regular backups as sop. I only had a heating problem with the battery once with another device (an axim) but it was scary. It started heating up like gangbusters in my pocket.) Reseating the battery took care of it (I swapped out the battery actually) but afterwards I had no problems with either battery. So you figure. Never had a problem since. So its worth a try.
c1oudrs said:
What I mean by reseating your battery is just to take it out, let it cool down, put it back in when cool. Dont be alarmed if you have to try to reseat your battery a couple of times to get the power back as it has to fit just right\be latched in just right, but the Athena battery is made to come out/be swapped out. You might want to read p23 and 24 in the users manual. In regaards to hard reset, back up your device as a hard reset will wipe everything that isnt in the rom. p228 in the manual for the hard reset. Taking out the battery shouldnt make it hard reset only soft reset but I would back important info up before taking the battery out anyway. And do regular backups as sop. I only had a heating problem with the battery once with another device (an axim) but it was scary. It started heating up like gangbusters in my pocket.) Reseating the battery took care of it (I swapped out the battery actually) but afterwards I had no problems with either battery. So you figure. Never had a problem since. So its worth a try.
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Thank you, i will try.
gtm55 said:
My athena start overheating and when that happen the battery is draining very, very fast, faulty hardware or faulty battery what do you think?
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i got same problem once a while. it every ignoring.
After hard reset and formatting the microdrive, everything is working ok (for now).
Thanks for your support!
It seems to be a problem with one particular battery for me. Every time I use that battery, I experience overheating. I have 4 batteries altogether so I always use that particular battery as the last resort. Other batteries are fine. I didn't have to hard reset or anything.

My Wizard keeps turning off and on! >:(

Hi guys,
Since I made the mistake of switching to DUO instead of the Tilt (yeah cast stones on me) when I updated "that one" to 6.1 the /WINDOWS file incredibly messed up. So much so that I felt a hard reset would work and reinstall 6.1 but instead I killed it on "Download Ready". Now I have to turn in my lil' POS to Pantech so they do that themselves. Bummer and no phone for 2 weeks.
Then I pull out my good ol' trusty Wizard but this one, unless I have it plugged in or hooked on the USB, it powers off and on constantly and goes back to original config (year 2006, and such). I NEED this phone as a loaner till I get the other one back. No use to have a cell phone that you can't use without cables.
I want to know if there is a fix to this, or if you guys think if updating this dinosaur (original everything, OS, WM, radio, etc.) to your latest and best(est) would fix this really annoying thing. Heck if you guys can fix this I might put the Duo in the corner for a while after it comes back...I got that SIM card and put it here and I can make and receive calls, the problem is it turning off and on constantly and deleting everything.
Now I will go back to my corner with my straightjacket. Thanks!
Hello there fellow Wizard owner. This is my first post on the website and I think I can help you out.
1) Try and leave your Wizard connected to the wall outlet for 1 hour. Then turn it on while plugged to the wall. See it will reboot. If it doesn't unplug it and see how long it lasts without it being plugged. If it reboots when it is unplogged it could mean your battery wont hold it's charge no more and all you need to do is get a new one. I went thru the same trouble last month and after testing everything under the sun I decided to replace the baterry and .. Viola!!! no more reboots for me.
I hope this helps.
Another questinon,
My notebook is Vista; my DH's is an XP. Which OS is safer to perform these changes? I found the thread where I can update the OS and to WM6 for newbies and I will try that first on XP.
One of (if not) the main reason the Duo got screwed up is that I tried to update it to 6.1 on Vista, when I was supposed to do this on XP (but don't tell anybody that they had TWO different instructions for BOTH OS's).
Cheerio.
Lol ... Yeah on my personal opinion if you are upgrading your Operating system use XP ... for some reason Vista freezes on me. And b4 you upgrade remember to read ALL the threads about upgrading your Wizard. Pretty much you can find all the answers on the search engine. And this guys are close to Gods when it comes to modding this "dinnosaour". I have pretty much messed my phone over 100 times .. I always look for the newer Rom and hacks and they guides they have here can help you with almost any known problem.
I know...I have taken apart mine FOUR TIMES and put it back together...two times b/c my daughter decided to dunk it in OJ!!!!!!!
Good thx for the advice I will fetch for a batt then...my DH will not hear me complain any longer I hope...
It's more than likely your battery.
When mine went - from a full charge to 60 % no issues, once it hit 59 % charge - the phone would cycle on and off until I pulled the battery - or stuck in back on the charger.
New battery - haven't had an issue since
Good luck
chicawhyte said:
I know...I have taken apart mine FOUR TIMES and put it back together...two times b/c my daughter decided to dunk it in OJ!!!!!!!
Good thx for the advice I will fetch for a batt then...my DH will not hear me complain any longer I hope...
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Hi,
Performed experiment as we agreed...turned it on @3pm (let it charge for more than 1 hr) and AS LONG AS I DID NOT MAKE A CALL it worked fine. Now it is having those seizures again. I can only stop it by taking the battery off, of course if I want to do that immediately. I dialed, when I was gonna send a page to my DH it went bipolar.
Now that is a reason why I believe it is not necessarily a battery issue but a software/hardware issue. I believe I will try upgrade software on this thing.
bill_in_mtl said:
It's more than likely your battery.
When mine went - from a full charge to 60 % no issues, once it hit 59 % charge - the phone would cycle on and off until I pulled the battery - or stuck in back on the charger.
New battery - haven't had an issue since
Good luck
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Did yours did this when making a call? I played games, fussed with the calendar, updated email settings, but nothing happened till I dialed.
Yep - usually when making a call.
Games, settings, etc take very little battery power - but phone calls take the brunt of the battery power.
Kind of like when they give you battery ratings - you will see four or five days of stand by time - but only 5 hours of talk time.
Like I said, for me - it was the battery.
Good luck
Same here battery was my problem. But if you still want to try to update. Make sure you charge the thone THRU wall adaptor then thru USB. If I remember correctly wizards wont charge a completely drained battery thru USB. And if during the update your phone starts to do the reboot dance it is 99.9% your batery then. Again GL.

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