Update: Solved!
Try your simcard in another (non-pda, non smartphone) cellphone.
If there is still the same delay, then its a providerproblem and you should contact your service hotline. In my case, this was the solution!
If the delay only occurs on your WM5 / WM6 device:
Then THIS here is the solution for you:
check this registry key: HKCU\\Control Panel\Sounds\RingTone0\script
simply change existing "3"'s to zeros... this string defines what the phone should do when a call comes in (a=begin script, r=repeat script, p=play ringtone, v=vibrate, w=pause, f=flash, c=volume)
in most cases, this should have been the solution for you.
if there exit still any delay problems:
try a wma standard ringtone which is stored in the phones main memory (NOT storage card). If this is the solution, then transform your desired ringtone into this format and move it into mainmemory.
(Addtionally you should be sure that there is no silence at the beginning of the ringtone itself... of course *g*)
I hope this helpful, good luck
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Hi!
It looks like an old problem is back: the famous 3-4sec. delay of ringtones on incoming calls: The caller hears 3 to 4 "rings" while the kaiser which receives the call stays sleeping/silent and starts ringing with a delay (as mentioned 3-4 "rings").
Device Info:
HardSPL, Super CID, unlocked
Radiorom R 1.27.12.11
Protokollversion: G 22.45.88.01H
D 1.56.00.00
ROM Version: 1.56.112.4 (09/01/07) (german/Austrian T-Mobile )
Anyone got a solution so far?
I tried tweaks2k2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109&highlight=ring+delay and playing around with different ringtone files as well - but no improvement.
Any hints are highly appreciated.
PS: Beside this one, Kaiser is really rocking!
I think its pretty normal
Its not a GSM , kaiser must launch an application to start ringing, that just takes time, the more tools you install, the slower the application starts.
Try not to install to many programs in memory background, tweak your htc....
Of course you are right with the fact that Kaiser is no GSM and needs an app for that - but I am pretty sure that this is not the real problem: On Hermes we had the same problem which could be solved (see Schaps ROM) with the same apps / ringtones installed.
licht77 said:
Hi!
It looks like an old problem is back: the famous 3-4sec. delay of ringtones on incoming calls: The caller hears 3 to 4 "rings" while the kaiser which receives the call stays sleeping/silent and starts ringing with a delay (as mentioned 3-4 "rings").
Device Info:
HardSPL, Super CID, unlocked
Radiorom R 1.27.12.11
Protokollversion: G 22.45.88.01H
D 1.56.00.00
ROM Version: 1.56.112.4 (09/01/07) (german/Austrian T-Mobile )
Anyone got a solution so far?
I tried tweaks2k2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109&highlight=ring+delay and playing around with different ringtone files as well - but no improvement.
Any hints are highly appreciated.
PS: Beside this one, Kaiser is really rocking!
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I have been using HelmiC's Clean/BigStorage version and I have had no problems with the ringtones. I have even tested it multiple times and it starts ringing at the very first ring. Do you have your ringtones on the phone or the storage card? If latter, try placing the ringtons on the phone (\My Documents\).
Hi! Thanks for your idea, und yes my ringtones are of course in the main memory for performance issues. As well I tried different formats (wav e.g.) with no improvement.
Any other statements to my problem? Are there other Kaiser ROMs which have the same problem or am i the only lucky one?
For your information: I tried tweaking the registry:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
Originally, my Kaiser had av0pw3r as Scriptvalue... I tried apr and av0pr but no improvement...
Any suggestions / comments?
(PS: Yes: tried different ringtone formats, ringtones are NOT on the storage card)
I had the same problem on the 8525 using MP3 files as ringtones. I converted my ringtone to a WAV file and the delay was much less. On my 8925, I'm using the same WAV ringtone file (in main memory) and my delay is usually just one ring on the callers end.
Which ROM are you using?
(btw.: tried of course different formats - wav, wma, mp3 -> all the same delay)
Machine: Original HTC TyTN2
ROM: 1.56.407.3, german
RADIO: 1.27.12.11
Provider: T-Mobile Austria
Ringtone: I'm using the standard ringtone from rom.
On my machine there is a delay of 1 ring until the Kaiser turns on and with the 2nd ring the Kaiser plays its ringtone. So I think this is fully normal.
I think you are all on the wrong track re ringtones...
The OP's actualy problem is that his device takes too long to actually wake on receiving a call.
I would bet $10 that it will be down to an application installed on the device that is screwing with its phone app responsiveness.
so there is no delay on plain devices with htc rom?
Is the ringtone present in main memory or on the sdcard ?
Maybe moving the ringtone to the main memory solves a bit of the problem.
On my TytnII the problem doesn't occur but the ringtone is placed in the main memory.
Simple to prove whether it is a ringtone. Just change the ring to one of the built in ones. If the device still delays waking on incoming calls, then you know its something else...
As mentioned in the opening post, the ringtone is on main memory and i tried standard tones too.
So what about your delays? Do you have one or not on your ROMs?
Is there an SCI (Slot Cycle Index) equivalent on 3G systems? On my Apache through Verizon (CDMA), lowering the SCI (how often your phone polls the tower for incoming calls) fixed this issue. So if there is an equivalent here, we should look into that.
Does anyone know how to get to the Kaiser's provisioning screen so I can check this out?
I have the same delay of 1 ring, then the kaiser wakes up and starts to play the ringtone.
Checked
I have just checked the delay on call arrives, and only 1 second.
I have optimized WMA (whichever little, better) file on \windows\rings
I my hermes i have more delay that in my Kaiser. And the cause in my hermes was related to the time the Hermes took to switch on. This time is lower in the Kaiser. When you press the On button, the Kaiser switch on quickly. See this posts on hermes section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1440403&postcount=266 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1461092&postcount=406 for refference.
If you have notifications on wake-up, this can cause delay on the switch on when a call arrives, so take care of this too.
So no significant delay for me.
Hmm... "Slot Cycle Index" is a nice hint - i will have a closer look to this.
For the other ideas: Of course i am using an optimized WMA ringtone - stored in main memory - too.
In fact i encounter this delay of 3 rings even when my phone is switched already on... - and i guess thats not normal.
I got a bunch of applications installed - but the same like on my Hermes where I didnt had these delays. So if there are no other ideas i will try to hardreset and figure out if the problems occur with a plain german ROM too.
If not, then i will install application by application and give feedback which one did the delay.
I didn't check it with calls yet. But with SMS i noticed that my screen goes on, and then after 2secs the sms-tone goes off. So there's definately a delay.
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Hello fellow Wing users. I'm willing to bet that if you're reading this you're probably a little frustrated with your phone's lack of performance. The reason why I'm starting this post is to try and gather in one central location all the improvements that we as local community would like to see happend for the Wing. The idea is for you to complete this sentence:
"The T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if..."
I have already contacted T-Mobile's customer service and gave them my suggestions,but I thought it might be a good idea to see what other users are looking for/need. Any idea is a valid idea, and after a month I'll draft a letter and we can all send it to customer service. And if we see more things that need to be added we can send it monthly with new updates. Sound good?
So this is what we have so far:
1. [email protected]
2. Official ROM
3. non-Buggy My Favs Program
4. Screen Lock w/Button Lock even when an incoming call comes in
I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.
I'd love my wing as well. The only thing I can think of that I'd love to see is UMA support for [email protected] Not really a big issue for me, as I have no signal issues at home, but that's about it.
How bout a list of all the suggestions in the first post. The main thing I'm waiting for is a release of the official rom to fall back on.
I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.
Updated rom with less memory leaks.
Hotspot @ Home
That's all I can imagine for right now. Wing's a pretty all-in-one device.
For developers:
Would love TOUCHFLO to be implemented into a rom.
Rom's with freed up memory
Less customization
Faster and more stable.
suggestions
for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...
NNagendran said:
for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...
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Like a T-Mobile Kitchen? That would be cool
Here here! I totally agree.
Here here! I totally agree.
Not sure if these are really T-Mobile's issues or WM6 issues or HTC issues, but ...
Alarms are Unreliable
...If I set an alarm, I can NOT be confident that it will sound. The WM6 alarms worked fine the first time I set it active. A day alter I changed the alarm time and alarm sound, and the alarm hasn't worked correctly since. I eventually installed a 3rd party alarm clock, and deactivated the WM6 alarms. The 3rd party one worked OK for a week, then it wouldn't work either! It only seems to work when the phone is On, and set to stay on (plugged in). If the phone goes into suspend mode over night, the alarm doesn't seem to play the alarm sound. It does wake up the device, and does flash the light, but no sound!
Volume Up/Down Buttons:
...Seems like the hardware volume buttons (which are my first choice for volume control) do not adjust volume for most 3rd party applications. In fact every 3rd party app that I've installed starts with sound blaring, and no WM6 volume control seems to control the volume. Only after entering the game, going to the game settings, and editing the game volume controls (if there are any!) can I change the volume. Why doesn't the hardware volume control actually control the speaker volume?
Listen to Music & Vibrate Mode:
...Seems like I can't set my phone to vibrate (through the quick ring/vibrate phone mode switching tool) and have volume for my music. When I set it to vibrate, the volume is set to 0. When I trun the volume up for my music, the ringer switches from vibrate to ring.
NOTE: I really wonder if all these sound issues are related ... ? It seems to me that there are a variety of volume settings, and a variety of controls to adjust these volume settings. Ringer volume, in call volume, speaker volume. , mute/vibrate mode. There is the hardware button, there is a software volume slider, many apps have an additional volume sliders. It seems like some *other* internal volume setting is getting adjusted (other than the main volume controls) and all programs (not the phone or ringer) are affected by this.
Locked Screen with Call:
...With the screen lock enabled, and the phone in suspended mode, an incoming call wakes up the phone and activates the two phone buttons. Every time the incoming call is answered as I am pulling the phone from the phone case ... !! This really sucks because I don't want to have to answer every call. If I don't remove the phone from the case, the calls are still answered just by the pressure of the case on those buttons.
Music Player Library:
...The Windows Media player Library automatically loads up all sorts of ringtones and WM6 sound files (that are not in My Music or My Videos folders)?? There is seemingly no settings to prevent this? manually removing them asks you to really delete the file (dangerous), and has to be repeated every time you reload the Library? I ended up using a new media player that has more settings and isn't so stupid.
User Modes: (not an issue, but a desired feature)
...I have found the need for 'usage modes' for the phone. I mean things like 'phone mode', 'internet mode', 'music/movie player mode'. Somethng that would enable the appropriate device settings to facilitate using some program without the screen turning off, or auto-suspending.
...I know you can manually go through all your settings and enable/disable the auto-suspend, change the backlight, change the volume/ring type, etc. in order to use the Wing as an MP3 player, phone, or news reader ... but different usage modes would seemingly be a *must have* for anyone who really uses these different functionalities one after the next.
... for example, as an MP3 player I want the device to stay on (no auto-suspend), the back light off after 30 sec, and vibrate only ringer, and music volume adjustable (only makes sense). BUT if I get an incoming call, I don't want the backlight shutting off after 30 seconds anymore! OR if I close the MP3 player and want to read my email or RSS news feeds, then I want the ringer back on, the device to auto-suspend after 5 minutes, and the backlight to stay on that long too.
...It is time consuming to be constantly swapping settings back and forth, trying to remember what needs to be changed. I feel like I spend more time tinkering with settings then actually getting good use out of the Wing. Sometimes I only have 5 minutes to read news or play a quick Sudoku game, and don't want half that time wasted futzing with settings.
...Maybe there is 3rd party software for this, but I haven't found any as of yet.
Business Contact Manager Pocket PC / Contacts Button on TMobile Wing
Thanks for this thread. I think we should also post replies when members post questions about their needs....
I like my Wing and I am trying to keep it clean - minimal software. Having said that there are some things I would like to remove / change....
I have installed business contact manager pocket pc - which sync's with my business contacts in Outlook. The problem I have is that one of the Today screen soft button (just above the ok button) points to "contacts" and not business contacts. I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
I would also like to see a new forum category for all posts regarding Wing and/or WM6 professional. A lot of the threads deal with older OS's and I am concerned to install software written for WM5 and older. Also you find WM6 posts buried under different devices, etc...
This is the only way I know how . . .
zerodiscount said:
I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
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See attatched and it's the 'official' T-Mobile applet so . . . . .
Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
aLdaRiS said:
I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.
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RUU updater
T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if they released the RUU updater with the stock version of the ROM that comes on the Wing!!
When do they plan on doing that?
I'd mainly like to see a faster CPU (preferably keeping the dual core, so the radio stuff is independant) and more onboard RAM/ROM space.
Then, there is the feature T-Mobile announced recently -- a special box that goes onto people's home LANs, where people can make voice over IP calls, and have it automatically handoff to and from the cellular network. Calls made on the wireless at home are free, even if the call gets handed to the cell network.
Of course, I'd like to see a RUU ROM file, as well as a "bare/clean" ROM from TMO, providing pretty much WM6, and the basic T-Mobile network customizations, as a starting base to work from.
How about having the extra storage space built in to the phone instead of having to buy an sd card?
How about [email protected] for the Wing?
Now here's a GREAT Idea! Hotspot @home for the Wing - god knows it'd take little to no-effort for them to allow/enable us to utilize this . . . . .
My wife switched over to T-Mobile cuz she wanted the Sidekick (bleh) so she offered to get me the Wing...I really didn't like how slow and sloppy the phone's interface is. Still don't like how slow it is but I've warmed up to the phone since it's so handy. But I do wish that the apps where not so buggy and was more customizalbe. Like customizing the homepage to have using only icons for certain things or framing some parts of the homepage so that you can view different info without having to leave the homepage and watch my phone akwardly blink to the next screen.
pickpocket said:
I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.
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That is an issue with Cox. Recently alot of ISP's have locked their outgoing email to be only able to send from approved IPs. T-Mobile right now is working on getting added to those. Dont worry about it being 6.0, that was just a coincidence.
and
Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
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The ITCs ban on 3g chips is probably the real culprit behind the 3g launch delay. Why launch 3g when you cant even get any 3g phones imported??
!st letter going out on Friday
Hey everyone, I just wanted you to know that out first letter is going out on Friday. If you have any other ideas please add them.
SIP please . . .
how about giving us the built-in ability to use SIP/VoIP that WM6 provides . . BACK to us . . .
I love the TyTN II phone, but as a new user of the phone and to this forum, I have found quite a few little quirks so far.
1) The first was the issue I posted regarding the sent emails not being stored in the sent folder if you use IMAP settings. This issue is still unresolved. I assume no one has a resolution for this?
2) The next quirk, has to do with the vibrate ring profile. Two issues I have encountered. (a) When you receive an email or sms and have the phone on the vibrate profile, sometimes, the vibrating wont stop and will consistently vibrate until you check the phone. (b) Sometimes the phone freezes completely on the vibrate setting to the point where the only way to restart it is to take the battery out. Any solutions or advice for both (a) and (b)?
3) I think this is a common issue based on the posts, but getting WMV files to play smoothly. I have tried the built in Windows Media Player and Coreplayer but it is still quite choppy. I assume that this is related to the drivers and we may expect an update from HTC later this month?
4) I have installed the recommended HTC camera and picture viewing software as suggested by this forum, however, every now and then when you take a picture and go to view it, the picture is actually corrupted and cannot be viewed on the phone or on my PC. I currently automatically store camera pics on my microSD card. This happens only every now and then. Any solutions?
5) This is not necessarily a TyTN II issue. I have downloaded the latest version of Opera Web browser and installed the latest adobe flash player. However, I still cannot view flash files. Does anyone know where exactly the "flash.dll" file needs to be copied to in order to view flash through Opera? I have tried the Opera folder in programs and also the Opera folder in applications with no success. I currently have Opera stored on my microSD card.
I think that this covers all my issues within the 3 weeks that I have had the phone. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
I will try and answer the questions that I think I know answers to.
carlisle said:
2) The next quirk, has to do with the vibrate ring profile. Two issues I have encountered. (a) When you receive an email or sms and have the phone on the vibrate profile, sometimes, the vibrating wont stop and will consistently vibrate until you check the phone. (b) Sometimes the phone freezes completely on the vibrate setting to the point where the only way to restart it is to take the battery out. Any solutions or advice for both (a) and (b)?
I had my phone freezing periodically on the original AT&T ROM and upgraded recently to the February AT&T Rom and have not had a lockup since. The only NEW issue is that 5 seconds after you start a call your phone goes black no matter what your registry setting is set to.
3) I think this is a common issue based on the posts, but getting WMV files to play smoothly. I have tried the built in Windows Media Player and Coreplayer but it is still quite choppy. I assume that this is related to the drivers and we may expect an update from HTC later this month?
I have music files that I play all the time - I have a 4 gig card and have hundreds of files and they all play flawlessly with no skips or jumps or hesitation. I use a 64000 bit rate? What ROM are you using?
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1) sent emails not being stored in the sent folder if you use IMAP settings.
Check MENU>MANAGE FOLDERS and make sure you are syncing your Sent Items folder.
2) (a) When you receive an email or sms vibrating wont stop (b) phone freezes vibrate setting
I have not experienced this.
3) WMV files to play smoothly
As indicated above, this is usually a bitrate issue. Please indicate the bitrate used in the files that are causing problems. The WMV format is native and plays well if there's enough CPU for the bitrate. I do not anticipate improvement in this area from the forthcoming video drivers.
4) HTC camera picture is actually corrupted
I do not experience this using the orginal ATT roms with camera version 4.02 bld 28288
I have the latest ROM available for my TyTn II phone 1.81.861.0 WWE.
Music files play fine, but it's the video files that are all jaggie. Its bitrate is 504 Kbit I think.
Regarding sent emails, no settings on the phone make a difference. All settings advised have been checked and none resolve this issue.
Hi All!
Currently having some issues with my Tytn.
1st problem!
Since upgrading to different Radio's - currently Dutty's V2. Hard spl 3.29
Receiving calls (incomming) only rings for about only 5 seconds. Which sometimes is not long enough for me to pick up. I cant find an option to extend the time on the phone before going to voicemail.I have had this problem since upgrading to 6.1. Tried every damn method with no luck... its driving me insane! Is anyone else having this problem?
2nd problem!
Since upgrading my Tytn to 6.1 with different roms my ringtones no longer works. when i go to phone setting and trying to select a ringtone a msg appear "this ring tone file is corrupted or unavailable"try reseting and using different roms with hard reset with no luck!
Any suggestion or how to resolve my issues ?
thanks in advance
Exactly what rom are you using?
And what radio(s) are you using?
SouthernLuke said:
Exactly what rom are you using?
And what radio(s) are you using?
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Rom - Dutty's V2
Radio - 1.65.16.25
I also have the audio problem. It looks like it is missing some basic codecs . does anyone have a link for the standard codec for win mo 6.1
Similar issue with stock ROM
I've got the stock AT&T 6.1 ROM and I get the same issue, but not every time. It seems to happen to some callers, but not others, and I'm not sure it happens to the same callers all the time. When it happened this morning I heard one short ring, and the missed call icon lit up. The caller said it rang 5 times on her end. I was wondering if it had something to do with my forwarding settings with Youmail, but I haven't got around to checking.
Hello!
I bought my Diamond - Windows 6.1 - Vodafone Branding 2 days ago and I can say it is very slow...
I thought it shouldn't bother me because there are many software and support for this device... so no problem.
But the biggest problem as a phone is:
When anyone wants to call me after ca. 2,5 rings my diamond begin to ring to... but this is too late... because it leads the caller by 3 rings to the mailbox.
Is there any solution to better the reaction time for a call?
SOLVED:
by using a .wav tone and disabling the HTC design for the phone-aplication. This can be done with the application DiamondTweak
I have the same problem on my T-Mobile MDA Compact IV - I've missed so many calls, even though to the caller its been ringing for ages! Surely HTC should have tested this?
search 1st please
if you search the forum this question has been asked and answered many times
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=16966072
look its that easy
also if you want the phone faster...you need to flash the rom with one of many cooked roms here on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109
there is a patch for WM5, but i've WM6 on my diamond... is it ok?
it will work just fine with wm6.x!
hargibi said:
it will work just fine with wm6.x!
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it didn't... after installing I had no sound on the diamond!
I tried a .wav ringtone... now it rings after ca. 1,5 rings on the phone....
my nokia rings before the first ring...
has anyone a better idea?
redliner51 said:
Slow...Slower...Diamond??
I thought it shouldn't bother me because there are many software and support for this device... so no problem.
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1.34 Stock...1.35 Stock...1.37 Stock...1.93 Stock... 1.93 CE 5.2.20755 Custom ROM
Indeed, don't let it bother you. With each released stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's based on those stock ROM's, the speed, functionality and stability increased.
Even the current official stock 1.93 ROM, which you can upgrade to without losing warranty, is considerably faster than the early ones.
And as for the phone reaction time, it's a known annoying issue, so search and read what many before you have posted about the subject. Good luck!
I've the 1.37.162.2 GER ROM...
How much would this upgrade help the speed?
too much
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=2
is that the newest ROM? Date: 2008-07-31 ?
Is it in German, too?
I installed the new Touch FLO 3d... is that the same effekt?
no, you have to upgrade rom too
Ok, I updated to the newest Vodafone ROM... everything is a bit faster apart from the ring delay...
it begin to ring after the second ring...
no solution?
there is a solution... cant remember where it is, on this forum.
I've the Vodafone ROM 1.93.162.3 GER
is the following TouchFLO3D newer than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2358935&postcount=225
redliner51 said:
I've the Vodafone ROM 1.93.162.3 GER
is the following TouchFLO3D newer than mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2358935&postcount=225
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go into 'Settings' tab on TouchFLO3D and scroll to the bottom to the 'About' bit.
shows you version number there
(mine is 1.2.34837.3_1813.6)
Ok, I've the 1.1.34574.1_1630.38
but what is with the ring delay now?
i installed this ring_delay_patch.cab from this forum too... now it rings some milliseconds before the second ring...
i can't understand this... so many people have a diamond and diamond should be a mobile phone but its phone capabilities are less than an old mobile phone....
do you use a .wav file as ring tone?
because if you use a .wma file it is normal that the ring is delayed... this because a .wma file is compressed so it takes much more time to be loaded by the OS, instead if the ring tone is a wav file it is very fast (because not compressed), so you mobile will start to ring soon
this is a normal behaviour in WM, I had the same issue some years ago, then after some searches I realized how to solve
suiller said:
do you use a .wav file as ring tone?
because if you use a .wma file it is normal that the ring is delayed... this because a .wma file is compressed so it takes much more time to be loaded by the OS, instead if the ring tone is a wav file it is very fast (because not compressed), so you mobile will start to ring soon
this is a normal behaviour in WM, I had the same issue some years ago, then after some searches I realized how to solve
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(sorry forgot about this )
I forgot to mention that the wav file should be no longer than 30/40 seconds
HI all,
I have setup MS Voice command on my Fuze to announce the name or phone number of the person calling on in coming calls. On my Tilt, it would announce the name either thru the speaker or my BT headset. With the Fuze, it will not. Is anyone else having this problem.
Also, with my Tilt, my ring tones would play thru my BT Headset and it will not on the Fuze. I don't know if this are related. I am using the BT headset on both.
Thanks
billf.
Yes, I'm having this same problem, and it is making me consider returning my Fuze and sticking with my tilt. Unless HTC or someone comes up with a fix within the next 2 weeks, my Fuze is going back. The only other bug I have noticed is that auto-correct does NOT work for the keyboard. It's supposed to automatically add in apostrophes for words, such as "can't, don't, won't" etc. Also, the word suggestion never shows up when I type, like it did on my Tilt. Of course it gives you suggestions with T9 turned on, but that's not the same as word suggestion. It would provide suggestions based on previous typing habits, and even predict entire phrases it thought I was going to type. Anyway....if someone figures out how to fix these problems, please let me know ASAP! Thanks.
I just noticed this tread. I too am having the same problem with it not announcing. My Tilt did it just fine and I have the Fuze VC set up exactly the same way as my Tilt, but all I get is my ringtone and no announcement.
Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.
starstreak said:
Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.
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That is the way I have it set up. No go. What is weird is that my ring tone plays over the bluetooth headset, but the computer generated voice doesn't speak.
it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.
venelar said:
it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.
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I'm glad that you decided to be a "guinea pig!" Because I was going to try this today! I was going to re-install the .CAB that came from my Tilt. But I'm glad to see if that doesn't work. In order to find a solution, do you think I should call AT&T or HTC? Which one would give me the solution? Because I only have 25 days left before my Fuze is non-returnable.
Hmm I never tried it yet on the fuze with my BT. I'll try it and report back.
Ok crap. Yeah. It doesnt "voice" announce. I never noticed it because I can dial from headset and even number dial from headset and it'll work. I can hear it repeating the number back.
BUT its not like its not working... If I remove the announce incommming calls, it makes my phone ring, but in my earpiece I hear a tone to tell me I have a phonecall. When I enable announce incomming calls, my phone vibrates and I hear my ringtone in my ear, and faintly I can hear that "tone" I heard before. So it sounds like the voice side of things isnt working.
Ok tried one last thing before my BT headset died. Doh!
When it died, my phone announced the caller. So it does work. Its just not working from the BT headset, you hear a bell sound or something.
Also, I just noticed my cars BT doesn't show battery of the phone. When my Tilt was on the car BT, it would show the battery remaining.
MS Voice Command
Check out the MS Voice Command guide on WinMo-Experts. There might be an answer to your problems in there.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2
Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.
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Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.
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Guess I didn't notice, but dose not work for me either. I do enjoy that on the Tilt, but I more like the Tilt for the message and email voice notification.
Beahcboyde/JON
PS. I'm simply not keeping the Fuze. I'll stick with my Tilt and TF2. love the whole setup and the speed of the touchflo usingHyperDragon Raphael
Signal is average compaired to my Tilt, when testing out T-Mobile connection. On 3G, I'm constantly around 2 bars(but it spurts to full so I know its working) So I think Hawaii is still bad with 3G is some areas.
I use VC ALOT. So I'm amazed I never noticed this issue where it wont say the caller in my ear.
I'm not sure if I'll keep the phone/drop ATT/both.
Please someone fix this! I dunno if it helps, but all you hear is a bell sound in the background of your normal phone ringtone. I know thats from the MSVC. The only thing not working is the announcement of whos calling. I think everything else is working. I can voice dial,recieve calender announcements and appoinments,etc from my BT headset.
Oh, not just BT headset. It won't announce it from the phone either.
I even did a "bloat free" installation.
the fix is on pdaphonehome.com i had the same problem with my sprint touch pro. weird since the diamond doesn't have this problem. you have to edit the registry to use the wav file instead of the default. only side effect with the fix is the phone will ring once and VC will announce the rest of the duration.
sid
Eww,junk fix. I'll check it out tho. While not a problem when I have my headset, it would be if i had my phone sitting on a table.
Reg hack
I copied this from pdaphonehome.com....kuddos to the person that figured this
out. Kind of a hacky way to get it to work though. Perhaps the brains around
here can figure it out.
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This isn't a complete solution - but it's an improvement.
With this fix - the ring tone will play for a second and then be cut off by the call announcement. The announcement will be at a lower volume. The announcement will repeat - the ring tone will not be played again.
NOTE THAT YOU SHOULD ATTEMPT THIS FIX ONLY IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN UPDATING YOUR REGISTRY.
Change the following registry keys:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Category
change from VoiceCommand1 to Ring
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Script
change from as5p to v0p (that's v-zero-p) - for vibrate & ring, or p (ring only)
The above fix seems to get the announcements reliably, and doesn't break the set vibrate/set ringer features in the TF3D interface.
Hopefully we can find a better solution - that will restore the full functionality of Voice Command incoming call announcements - and not need this hack.
Another option is to manually overwrite the ringtone file name:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sound
change to \Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav
This fix replaces the ringtone with the call announcement - and at full volume.
BUT this solution has several problems, including breaking the set vibrate/set ringer feature in TF3D.
From reading that, if I DON'T use the TF3D ring/vibrate, but use the windows mobile one, I should be fine by doing the second hack listed above? I think I could live with that as I eventually will kill the TF3D just so I can get the calender of my Pocket Informant to show instead. Only thing I like was the Weather and clock of the TF3D anyways and ATT crippled the clock by removing the animation.
Doe anybody know how to do the 2nd option? Not sure if I'm supposed to delete the whole registry line or somehow add to that line?