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Just a though/suggestion

Im sure this may have been discussed, but has it ever crossed anyone one's mind that ITJE and TTran team up for a rom? I think it would be interesting.

That would be a conspiracy. There'd have to be a magic bullet in there somewhere.
Actually if those guys got together, they could Rule the World.
**Its like Way too Dangerous!

I'd imagine it'd be hard to actually team up to make a rom as for creating the files n etc.
As far as i've noticed if cooks find a way to imporove a rom in any was they post it so other cooks could ise it too, so i guess thats sharing/teaming up in a way.

Lol something like too many cooks in the kitchen?

2 iron chefs in the kitchen would rule, i think...id like for ITJE and TTran to chime in.

In Germany there is a slogang:
Many cooks will smash the soup.... = ugly.
Every cook has his own style ...
and that makes cooking and "eating" interesting.....
just my 2 cents

papamopps said:
In Germany there is a slogang:
Many cooks will smash the soup.... = ugly.
Every cook has his own style ...
and that makes cooking and "eating" interesting.....
just my 2 cents
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agreed, we need diversity, we need options. sometimes I might not have liked what Itje did so can always go to ttran or vice-versa. Im sure they help each other anyways, for advice and what not. Either way, last time i checked there isnt much room for 2 chefs to work on 1 file. requires a lot of testing and debugging. Something only the creator can figure out.
Good imagination however

We all learn from each other. I think it would be hard to work together, because if it's anything with how I make ROMs, it would be a huge mess instead of something better. But as it is, we PM each other and give each other fixes and such.

Hey You! Yeah You! Check This Out...

Please DONATE to ITJE for his hardwork and contribution to your devices. It is my understanding that I am the ONLY person who's donated to him, and that's very sad, considering what he does for you, and for free on a daily basis here.
For the longest time, ITJE refused to take donations, and people convinced him to ... now nobody is donating to him... That's ridiculous.
Keep in mind, that without ITJE, none of the other cooks would have even known where to start... and it was ITJE who made the How to build your own Rom tutorial ... and he has answered questions to everyone who was trying to learn how to make roms.
Many of you probably have no idea how long it takes to build roms on here... so even if you only send $5 or $10 ... please show your support and appreciation.... that way ITJE knows he's appreciate when he's getting screamed at by his wife for spending countless hours on the computer working for free to make YOUR phone work better.
SO PLEASE DO ITJE A FAVOR AND SHOW YOUR APPRECIATION FOR WHAT HE DOES AND
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duprade said:
Keep in mind, that without ITJE, none of the other cooks would have even known where to start... and it was ITJE who made the How to build your own Rom tutorial ... and he has answered questions to everyone who was trying to learn how to make roms.
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Hey, I didn't learn to cook from him. But I did learn how to decompile a ROM from that post.
It's sad to hear that he's not cooking anymore, but I don't blame him. He's not the only cook that feels like cooking is not worth our time. We put our life on hold to cook and I think it's time for a new generation of cooks to take over. (Which thankfully, there are some starting to now.) I may have a few new ROMs left in me, though.
Unfortunately, we can never control those people who wish to make a profit out of our sweat, so things like that will always happen. If they want to steal, they will steal. :-/

well.. i think i do the correct thing by contact him coz i've seen the post in eBay (ive searching for a Herald/T-mo wing device cuz herald that i have here is bricked) and appears his rom and i feel bad cuz he spents a lot of time by researching and creating that for us, the xda-dev community and isnt good seeing a boy that earns money for that.. its quite bad, sometimes i felt bad by that, but i think i do the correct thing
I think im responsable by the action of ITJE... sorry

@ duprade
second that... this **** that happend at the moment is very sad
@ itje
(usually i dont wrote to who i donate) but just to make it clear, the 3Euros you mention in the other threat was from me... i know its not much but that was all i´ve got on the acount at the moment... next week i make an another donation for a bigger candybar
by the way... here a still people that estimate the good work from a good cook!
sorry for my bad english... i hope its enough

Duttys Donated X1 will be return to the Community [My Sincere Apologies]

Hi all first and mostly I want to apologise for not giving you a ROM, but due to recent activities here I decide to stop my work here and stop making ROMS for now.
For People who dont know already I was asked to cook for X1 and was donated a device which XMOO sent to me.
I also was working on HD AND WAS CURRENTLY TIED UP IN making a ROM FOR IT. I was also working on X1 ROM, but didnt have time between both devices and I stopped for awhile.
Since my last HD ROM ALot of stuff , issues, etc arise here on XDA and I was the main attraction, long story short ,
I given up cooking at the moment and I feel bad not making a rom for u guys, The rom I have still needs work doing and I cant support it if I release it as I have a lot of personal stuff I need taking care of.
I contacted XMOO about sending the device to him so you Guys can decide what to do with it or give it to another CHEF, ETC,
Once again my sincere apology especially for all those who believe in me and all my supporters but whats happened here has really put me off.
If there are any better advise on how to donate the device back to the community just let me know.
Thanks Dutty.

Sorry to see you go Dutty, best of luck with you and your family!
On a selfish note though, any chance you can release what you already have for the X1? Would love to try it, bugs and all, knowing that you wont be supporting it.

sorry to hear about this. this is a real loss to the community. hope you change you mind soon
any chance of convincing you to to realease your unfinished rom at least the cooks over hee can build on top of it.

oops....just noticed tjax reply

Like many others I was looking forward in trying your ROM for the X1.
With an ackward eye did I follow the stuff going on in the Blackstone forum and respect your decision to leave the forum, although it breaks my heart a bit.
Best of luck to you and your family!
Maybe we'll see you in the future....

If you could release the kitchen /sources to the X1 community, then maybe some other enterprising chef could pick up where you left off. I'm interested in learning the process behind creating a ROM but I'll be honest and say I wouldn't know where to start, even after reading some guides here on XDA-Dev.
Thanks for at least considering making a community ROM, and good luck with what you go on to do Dutty.

Goodluck to you and hopes everything turns out for the better. I know everyone was looking forward for your ROM here, and some just couldnt wait and start saying things they do not mean. All in all thanks for your effort...my suggestion regarding the X1 KEEP it until maybe one day you can bless us with your work.

The device should be sold and everyone who donated should get their money returned.

Dutty has quit. Bugger.... Might get an iphone? Gotta say, that Palm Pre looks pretty cool?

Wait for the Touch Pro 2 Clove is taking pre orders

Its a sad day and I hope to see Dutty back in XDA asap, but **** happens...
Maybe XMOO should PM everyone who donated for this, we could see together over PM's if there is someone else who we would think would benefit the X1 community so much, that we want donate the device to.
If we are talking abotu selling MAYBE I could be interested, but just maybe at this point... I would rather see it go to good use...

I was one of the donators and my suggestion is to sell the phone and donate the money to xda.

Well Im not 100% behind that... I have donated to XDA with my two usernames and will donate in the future, but this was meant to other use...

Wasn't Xmoo after a spare to do some Android work, maybe it could be used for that

Been following your work Dutty eventhough i own a Raphael.. well sad to see all the hecticness that were around. Well the best thing you could to is to take care of personal life first... xda forum will allways be here... good luck bro.. keep an eye on devs here so they don't go on wrong paths .. they might need your knowledge some times.. well anyway take care of your self first

Well Dutty all are behind you on this... about the X1 let Xmoo decide.
but i as all cooks here are very interested in your blackstone rom 1.9 and if that can be ported to X1, please please please contact me or any good chef out there and make a final contribute
that would be like, well lets call it religous

hey Dutty!
Im really sorry to hear that you're leaving. A sad day for the xda community!
I just wish you all the best and hope you'll return one day or if you're moving somewhere else let us know!
Thanks for your great roms!

So much has been said on the whole "Dutty Dilemma" (Someone should write a book about it! )
My first and last comment on it: Too bad it happened, Dutty has been wronged.
On the device, I'm not a donator, but I'd say let him keep it after all the crap.
If people strongly feel it must be sold, I'm a potential buyer.
Still hoping for Dutty to change his mind and put the X1 he got to use though.

buchman said:
Wasn't Xmoo after a spare to do some Android work, maybe it could be used for that
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im somewhat sure he needed one for siassambly reasons. to check hardware etc.
id rather have android on my hpone anyway but since i donated nothing ... let the donaters decide
@dutty
well to sad, ive never seen any of your roms since this is my first winmopho. but still, GL and have fun out there

The sad thing about it is that it wasn't the people on the xperia thread that were giving him so much hell. The people that donated the device to Dutty supported him the whole way. I would say at the least the people who donated the funds to get the device should get his beta rom.
Thats my last two cents

Everybody is a cooking master these days?

Pretty wierd, Itje has been in-active for a couple of days (probably due to easter) and all of a sudden everybody is "releasing" roms like its there speciality?
And when i read these threads and somebody askes a simple thing as "are you putting youtube in it?" i see answers like "it is pretty hard to get youtube up and running, i dont know how to do that"..
Is this something everybody wants to see? Imo cooking/releasing roms should be done only by people who have the knowledge and knowhow off everything.

FalkenX said:
Pretty wierd, Itje has been in-active for a couple of days (probably due to easter) and all of a sudden everybody is "releasing" roms like its there speciality?
And when i read these threads and somebody askes a simple thing as "are you putting youtube in it?" i see answers like "it is pretty hard to get youtube up and running, i dont know how to do that"..
Is this something everybody wants to see? Imo cooking/releasing roms should be done only by people who have the knowledge and knowhow off everything.
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If they want to try to cook, why not?
It's only a win-win situation
They learn more & have more experiences and maybe they'll even getting better than Itje

very very succinctly put..
jerpeleas kitchen is very very simple to use.
and is perfect for creating that "personal rom"
unfortunately, whats happening is what often happens, and is that everyone suddenly decides to throw out that personal rom for public consumption.
now i think its great that people are trying things out, but i do think, ladies and gentlemen that you should keep your experiments a bit more "internal" at least till you understand what you're doing a bit better..
please??

fards said:
very very succinctly put..
jerpeleas kitchen is very very simple to use.
and is perfect for creating that "personal rom"
unfortunately, whats happening is what often happens, and is that everyone suddenly decides to throw out that personal rom for public consumption.
now i think its great that people are trying things out, but i do think, ladies and gentlemen that you should keep your experiments a bit more "internal" at least till you understand what you're doing a bit better..
please??
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Agreed. Glad to see more cooks or more people willing to learn to cook. But sad to see lots of them either unfinished, or not tested fully w/ lots of bugs here and there. And I don't see any unique features/characteristic/fixes among most of them since all are based on the same kitchen without going into details to learn and create.

In other words, people, if you wanna try to cook your own roms thats your own choice, but stop the posting on the forums if there arent any new feautures/bug fixes in it.

alway nice to see more people cooking.
but like myself i cooked a rom with jerpelea's kitchen.
i twisted and turned allot over and made it to my personal favors.
but i won't release for public just because it is to my own taste and i know that allot of peoplehere have different choises and willings.
it's great that cooking is made easy for everybody but if you don't have the real knowledge like our first timer chefs keep it for yourself and enjoy it as much as you can!
but hey..
that's just me

The word is not "cook" kids: it's READ and SEARCH.
Spread the word
I cook
You cook
He cooks
She cooks
We cook
You cook
They cook
But jerpelea is the biggest cooker of them all !!
Been cooking since january over WinMo 6.5, nothing worth sharing yet... until jerpelea uploaded his kitchen and I solved 6 weeks of problems in 6 minutes:
I eagerly read all 49 pages of his suggestions/tips, and included a couple of his packages into my own recipe, now I can fire the oven

knaplullig said:
alway nice to see more people cooking.
but like myself i cooked a rom with jerpelea's kitchen.
i twisted and turned allot over and made it to my personal favors.
but i won't release for public just because it is to my own taste and i know that allot of peoplehere have different choises and willings.
it's great that cooking is made easy for everybody but if you don't have the real knowledge like our first timer chefs keep it for yourself and enjoy it as much as you can!
but hey..
that's just me
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yup I've been cooking my own for a while now, but I've never released one.. mostly as I do it to learn more..

ive made 6.5/manila2 roms but havnt uploaded them because of this whole situation.
I do think however its better that ppl make their own roms and learn more about their phones then being a drone to somone else.
Its too bad that some in the past ruined it for some to truelly learn what needs to be changed in some cases. because alot of cooks are protecting their roms. so disecting their rom to see whats really in it is a bit harder then normal.
not speaking down to itje or about him. but if we were able to truely dissasemble his rom we could find out why myfaves doesnt work.
but cooking my own rom i got myfaves working but using jerpelea kitchen i get dumb little bugs

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but stop the posting on the forums if there arent any new feautures/bug fixes in it.
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That's not what I mean. But I wish new cooks instead to rush out a buggy rom (especially for 6.5 which is still beta and still with lots of issues w/ X1), could spent more time in clean up and bugfix, then release an tested and quality rom. It just a waste of time of you and your users if your rom is too buggy to be useful. Or released roms w/ features/softwares w/ bugs and issues that you don't have idea how to get them fix.

I kinda like to see all the new ROMS out. We went from 1 or 2 to a bunch. Granted there are a lot of buggy ROMS and people should do a lot more searching and more beta testing but being one of the new cooks i can see the reason for trying to release it. Some people use there phones completely differently that you do so i would think that others would find bugs that you don't. I know when i released my lite rom there were issues that i never even thought of trying so i had like 5 versions in like 2 weeks.
Most people don't add new features because a lot of the stuff is hard to come by in my opinion that is. They just release a different take on the programs and features.
I dunno just my take....

shadowmike said:
Its too bad that some in the past ruined it for some to truelly learn what needs to be changed in some cases. because alot of cooks are protecting their roms. so disecting their rom to see whats really in it is a bit harder then normal.
not speaking down to itje or about him. but if we were able to truely dissasemble his rom we could find out why myfaves doesnt work.
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I am not sure if this is his true intention. But you got to understand this is the side effect that the Bepe's kitchen he use (which is a lot more effieicent and easy to manage, and I start to use it as well since my V3.x series).
In fact, Itje is very generous in sharing what he could share in the Chef sharing thread, or his own threads w/ the helps from Fards, Akp99 (man, how come I don't have such an helpful team???). All you need is search, or ask the right man.

I have seen the same thing..
I welcome new chefs..its all good, but as said before, its not the "real" work of chefs, its more a "Ikea" sollution, buy/get the kitchen parts..put it together and use it at home...
And as jack said, please guys keep making roms..its cool..but rather then releasing roms that others has made (Jerpelea) try to make one from scratch...
I must also admit with this new wave of chefs, it also keeps getting very annoying that many of the new rom makers keep sending pm's, e-mails and adds me to msn. It didnt bother me at start, but now Its getting pretty frustrating.
And I am not even allowed to say no, they keep on coming asking for everything I know, everything I got..and if I say no, im a cocky mofo who wants to be the topchef all by himself..etc etc
I have to be rude, and I have to put ppls requests down. If not, I would not have time to do make new roms, because I was personally guiding everyone else.
That IS NOT why im here. I have no interest at all beeing a teacher...I can share stuff, but then I also like to get something back (not talking donations here) and that is a more respectful tone, specialy when I decline helping.
But, I try to point ppl in the right directions..telling them what to look for or where to find a thread with the stuff they need..usually that is not enough...cause they keep coming back asking what to look for....
But then I dont reply, because if you cant find it, then you can find another hobby..and that I dont back up on..
I have been searching this forums, so many times for new stuff, to learn new things, and I STILL DO.
I help if I can, I share when I can..but dont add me to msn to ask for cooking help. Cause you wont get it..sorry.
I know this post can be considered a bit off topic..but then again, its not..cause that is whats happening "behind the scene" of all the new "chefs"
Im sorry if this offends anyone..and im sure there is ppl among the new guys that are gonna get way better then me in this...after all, its just a hobby

I dont like ppl dissambling my roms
I tried for some time to have open roms..damn I even left in the rgus, so ppl could dump the rom and recook for personal use..
But what they didnt know was that I hid some small codes in the base of the rom
So when suddenly new roms started popping up..from ppl claiming it was their own work...can you guys guess what I found in the roms???? nahhhh..guess one more time
Then I made some "rules" Do not recook and release my roms, or I will protect them...
To bad..it still happened...
So I locked my roms, and if ppl dont like it...I dont care

Oh please don't take what ive said the wrong way. I understand the reasoning behind it.
not to be that guy but i still get the files i need from ur rom. like new images for replacement of the old green highlights.
but i also respect your work to not release anything as i understand how time consuming it is.
as i used to skin for psp's and windows mobile 6 and 6.1 standard neo and sliding panel home screens.

I have to say I've been reading this thread with particular interest, as I could be considered one of the "chefs" Itje is talking about as I recently asked him to point me in the direction of how to create ROMs. I personally found in all the custom ROMs that I tried several different little tweaks or something that I didn't use and wouldn't use and all I can say to people is, unless you've created a new TF3D or something HUGE then don't publicise ROMs - Once i eventually learn how to create on, I will simply use it just to create a ROM that is PERFECT for ME - and then I will work on creating something spectacular!
And that's my 15minutes of fame for the day
Nirave
P.S. I've just re-read the post and there is no hidden meaning in what I said regarding asking Itje! I know it sounds like there is, but there's not !

I'll open it out a little more: If anyone can help a long-time reader, small-time poster (ME!) and point me in the direction of how to create a custom ROM I'll be ever grateful
thanks
nirave

nirave said:
I have to say I've been reading this thread with particular interest, as I could be considered one of the "chefs" Itje is talking about as I recently asked him to point me in the direction of how to create ROMs. I personally found in all the custom ROMs that I tried several different little tweaks or something that I didn't use and wouldn't use and all I can say to people is, unless you've created a new TF3D or something HUGE then don't publicise ROMs - Once i eventually learn how to create on, I will simply use it just to create a ROM that is PERFECT for ME - and then I will work on creating something spectacular!
And that's my 15minutes of fame for the day
Nirave
P.S. I've just re-read the post and there is no hidden meaning in what I said regarding asking Itje! I know it sounds like there is, but there's not !
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dont worry, im not aiming at any person...but its a typical thing...its the same over and over again...same way

I dont see any problems in all these new roms. If there is nothing special, people wont be interested so that the "problem" will be solved by itself.

itje said:
dont worry, im not aiming at any person...but its a typical thing...its the same over and over again...same way
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Yes, I'm an Ikea cook, as Itje said. I'm only ever after a bare-bones ROM with whatever XIP\SYS improvements updates may provide.
I once published one of my "Ikea assembly" efforts for my earlier Eten X500, acknowledging the base was from PDAVIET, and was inundated with requests, complaints etc etc. So now I just use these Ikea efforts.
Question: does anyone know why official ROM updates seem never to use NETCF3.5 over v2.xx ?
V3.5 has been available for well over 18 months now

dont put garbage in your roms ! UNUSELLES STUFF MAKES EVERY ROM UNUSABLE !

well..donations will be concidered if there is any chance to make a clean rom? cookers?
is it possible to make elegant clean ROM?without garbage...
I like Dusk ROMs because they are so elegant and well done...but...(there is always but.huh!)....is it possible to make a clean ROM?

Perhaps the word "please" is in order somewhere in your sentence.
The cookers make ROMs as a hobby, not for commercial gains. They can put in whatever items they deem fit (and the cookers certainly believe these items are useful, at least for themselves).
You seem to suggest that they are doing it in exchange for donations. That's insulting.
You can state your wish, but being polite often goes a long way.

CervezaPorFavor said:
Perhaps the word "please" is in order somewhere in your sentence.
The cookers make ROMs as a hobby, not for commercial gains. They can put in whatever items they deem fit (and the cookers certainly believe these items are useful, at least for themselves).
You seem to suggest that they are doing it in exchange for donations. That's insulting.
You can state your wish, but being polite often goes a long way.
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oh !! sorry ! I forgot to say "please" !
my mistake ! sorry I think you missunderstanded me. i DONT MENT TO BE UNPOLITED!...SORRY. it is not about money or something else....
but when every cooker has a link for "buy me a beer"...why I could not offer a beer ?? if you ask for bear,I can pay you a beer?...
on other hand..there is a quite a lot of us who could pay for decent clean ROM..so why dont let to cookers to earn some money on their knowledge and achievement ?

CervezaPorFavor said:
Perhaps the word "please" is in order somewhere in your sentence.
The cookers make ROMs as a hobby, not for commercial gains. They can put in whatever items they deem fit (and the cookers certainly believe these items are useful, at least for themselves).
You seem to suggest that they are doing it in exchange for donations. That's insulting.
You can state your wish, but being polite often goes a long way.
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No need to tell him that IMO....He's is just asking a question if someone can make a clean rom. Just tell him if you can make a clean rom, otherwise no need to reply I guess....
@tin2404:
Perhaps you didin't know about the topix roms by kwbr. Try one of them !
Or try the cloudy rom...it's really clean!
Topix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
Cloudy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614538

thank you mmidas for links. I should try to go !
I dont ment to be unpolited...after hundreds of tested roms, just searching a lot of time for clean ROM...
I will Cloudy give a lift !!

CervezaPorFavor said:
Perhaps the word "please" is in order somewhere in your sentence.
The cookers make ROMs as a hobby, not for commercial gains. They can put in whatever items they deem fit (and the cookers certainly believe these items are useful, at least for themselves).
You seem to suggest that they are doing it in exchange for donations. That's insulting.
You can state your wish, but being polite often goes a long way.
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mmidas said:
No need to tell him that IMO....He's is just asking a question if someone can make a clean rom. Just tell him if you can make a clean rom, otherwise no need to reply I guess....
@tin2404:
Perhaps you didin't know about the topix roms by kwbr. Try one of them !
Or try the cloudy rom...it's really clean!
Topix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
Cloudy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614538
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there is no place n this forum for rude and impolite request (you titled the thread in upper case and exclamation mark) please. there is even no need of this thread.
just so youll know before fallen spartan closes this.

Why don't you just cook your own ROMs how you want. People cook to their tastes.

well my friend,I suppose that it needs some time and technical expertise to cook rom,but,unfortunally,I dont have to much time to spent for learning principles and that stuff,also,I am not good enough in programming matter (it must be something with my late age 40s perhaps,and "nature memory leak" )...

I think a good solution would be a light or clean WM 6.5 build, without the heavy manila.
I always use spb shell so there is no need for manila.
I have only found Miri's Standart v.36 with such characteristics.
Do you know any other rom 6.5 or at least 6.1 without manila?
Thank's guys

tin2404 said:
well my friend,I suppose that it needs some time and technical expertise to cook rom,but,unfortunally,I dont have to much time to spent for learning principles and that stuff,also,I am not good enough in programming matter (it must be something with my late age 40s perhaps,and "nature memory leak" )...
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I understand it's hard to put together a usable rom by yourself, but try this by sparkienl, he has done most of the hard work and all you have to do is select the packages you want and make a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
Just a side note I find it very sad that 40 or so years life experience hasn't taught you to be polite!! No need to be rude to other chefs and ask them to stop putting garbage in their roms! If you don't like it, simple don't use it! The chefs on here work hard and produce very usable roms for the majority.

xmsnx said:
I understand it's hard to put together a usable rom by yourself, but try this by sparkienl, he has done most of the hard work and all you have to do is select the packages you want and make a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
Just a side note I find it very sad that 40 or so years life experience hasn't taught you to be polite!! No need to be rude to other chefs and ask them to stop putting garbage in their roms! If you don't like it, simple don't use it! The chefs on here work hard and produce very usable roms for the majority.
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And they do it free of charge, purely because they like it.

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jigners said:
there is no place n this forum for rude and impolite request (you titled the thread in upper case and exclamation mark) please. there is even no need of this thread.
just so youll know before fallen spartan closes this.
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don't be too hard on him:
- in 3 years he posted 125 times
- i see a croatian flag near his join date: in the yougoslavian culture, when you don't say please they don't take offence because it's for the formal use mostly
- as you don't know his culture, try to think that he doesn't know the english one, namely the caps thing. I assume he wrote it in upper case a) to attract attention on his thread and b) to do 'like others' (e.g. [WWE][ROM] etc.)
- last but not least: it's an international community where people help people. Before blaming try to understand. Personaly, I prefer having more friends than enemies and I like to learn from others, the same way they like to learn from me.
Back in the days Nescafe had an add with 'Open up' as motto...

thank you all for enlightening me. (should I say "please" here or not..hm..?)
It seems I found the perfect rom..Reverting back to original shipped 6.1.
thank you for replies.

Appears OP is happy with rom, so thread closed