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Reason for SPV-M2000 Delay

Spoke to Orange today about ordering the new 3G data card and we got onto the subject of the M2000 and I asked when it was coming out, as it is always saying "Coming Soon" on the site. He explained that Orange withdrew it and are waiting for HTC to fix a major bug with it. The bug is when the battey is completely flat all data on the device is erased.
He doesn't know when this will be made available, but should be "soon". I wonder if the XDA IIs have the same problem.
Dfens

I think HTC has already released that patch. By the way is available in the Extended ROM I have posted here for SVP M2000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15924
I the patch is this one and it should solve the battery problems.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/OEM_BA_11230401_WWE.sa.CAB
It's availbale in their own internal ROM but they're not able to give it to their customers.
C'est bien ça France Telecom ))))

I called orange upgrades, they claim to have the handset, but they are reserved only for business customers.. and offered to put me through to the correct dept to discuss account change then do the upgrade!
dfens said:
Spoke to Orange today about ordering the new 3G data card and we got onto the subject of the M2000 and I asked when it was coming out, as it is always saying "Coming Soon" on the site. He explained that Orange withdrew it and are waiting for HTC to fix a major bug with it. The bug is when the battey is completely flat all data on the device is erased.
He doesn't know when this will be made available, but should be "soon". I wonder if the XDA IIs have the same problem.
Dfens
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searley said:
I called orange upgrades, they claim to have the handset, but they are reserved only for business customers.. and offered to put me through to the correct dept to discuss account change then do the upgrade!
dfens said:
Spoke to Orange today about ordering the new 3G data card and we got onto the subject of the M2000 and I asked when it was coming out, as it is always saying "Coming Soon" on the site. He explained that Orange withdrew it and are waiting for HTC to fix a major bug with it. The bug is when the battey is completely flat all data on the device is erased.
He doesn't know when this will be made available, but should be "soon". I wonder if the XDA IIs have the same problem.
Dfens
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Did you follow thorugh on this? Are you able to and how much would you have to pay. My phone is on its last legs and ive been waiting for ages to get my hands on one of these buggers...

No, business talk plans gost more, and in comparison you get less, so i'd rather stay on a personal account which i can still put through the company books
also i am only 6 months through a contract with a blockia
I bought a sim free pda2k
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searley said:
I called orange upgrades, they claim to have the handset, but they are reserved only for business customers.. and offered to put me through to the correct dept to discuss account change then do the upgrade!
dfens said:
Spoke to Orange today about ordering the new 3G data card and we got onto the subject of the M2000 and I asked when it was coming out, as it is always saying "Coming Soon" on the site. He explained that Orange withdrew it and are waiting for HTC to fix a major bug with it. The bug is when the battey is completely flat all data on the device is erased.
He doesn't know when this will be made available, but should be "soon". I wonder if the XDA IIs have the same problem.
Dfens
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Did you follow thorugh on this? Are you able to and how much would you have to pay. My phone is on its last legs and ive been waiting for ages to get my hands on one of these buggers...
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Well I got my M2000 first week of December, a free upgrade on a Talk 30 plan which I barely use. I switched SIM's with my main phone on my business account, couldn't believe my luck in getting it free
My g/f got her M2000 the same day, cost me £114.99 for it, on her 120 min normal online contract. She never tried the "well I can get one from O2 for £xxx...." trick to get it cheaper like I did.
I think it all depends what operator you get when you call Orange.

SVP M2000 loosing data after battery drain
I have had my M2000 for about two weeks now, its the second one I have had as the first one just seemed to have constant bluetooth errors. :x
The new one I have updated the Bluetooth to build 3500 from this site and installed Fax from one of the ROMs on the site.
Orange have also told me that the phone was only for business customers, they also told me that it had been discontinued and that it had major bugs. BOLLOCKS to them, they do not even respond to email and I have been a customer for 4 - 5 years. Most of the reps dont know what they are talking about, even worse are the tech support people. :x
On to a positive note!!
I think its fantastic, I had a SE P900 before and I loved that phone but this is great, I can run my CoPilot Live 5 GPS software on it and connect to my wireless network, internet, play games, marvelous.

Kaiser due on the 27

as i sit here on hold with att i have found out that 8925 will not be coming untill the got damn 27th of sept. yes, i am just as upset as everyone else perhaps even more

mr_nonshalant said:
as i sit here on hold with att i have found out that 8925 will not be coming untill the got damn 27th of sept. yes, i am just as upset as everyone else perhaps even more
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I have several friends that work at an AT&T Corporate store and they have told me that they have heard the first of the month it will arrive. I think maybe we should just save ourselves the discomfort and just see wtf happens. There are many opinions and everyones anticipating its arrival but what I dont get is given the fact allot of us have awesome devices currently why the constant hysteria?
Its not like were all using razor phones and are waiting to experience windows mobile, or a modified rom, or the wonderful H on our phones, right?
Just my .02 cents but seriously how many times have we seen a post similar to this with a different date/ device name etc...?

I am using a RAZOR and by the time this thing comes out i will be to got damn blind to read that tiny screen after all the back and forth to all the messae boards this is driving me nuts!

Oh BTW
this was posted on (BG)
UPDATE: Sorry, we forgot to add this in…We’ve been told the HTC TyTN II, or AT&T 8925 should be launching October 1st on AT&T. Hopefully that will stick.

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this was posted on (BG)
UPDATE: Sorry, we forgot to add this in…We’ve been told the HTC TyTN II, or AT&T 8925 should be launching October 1st on AT&T. Hopefully that will stick.
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I would venture to say that is way off , due to the amount of people that do know att reps including myself that already are being told they will have the device there to sell early this month. I am just gonna be content for my 8525 for the time being and just wait to see what happens.

Really though, the third is 4 days away. Don't you think SOMETHING would be made official by now? What is the problem with releasing a date anyway? Where are the ATT project managers on this one? Did AT&T not learn anything from announcing the date of the iPhone over 6 months in advance?
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diaftia said:
Really though, the third is 4 days away. Don't you think SOMETHING would be made official by now? What is the problem with releasing a date anyway? Where are the ATT project managers on this one? Did AT&T not learn anything from announcing the date of the iPhone over 6 months in advance?
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Well frankly I think they are a bunch of assholes but that could be due to me acting like an impatient child LOL. I personally have done online sales for almost a decade and I would say if a hot item was to be released and we gave our potential customers this half assed information, it would be someones job, period. I can appreciate how one company may operate differently from another but I definitely agree with your comment.

T-Mob UK release pushed back to October

Well 08/09/07 is out of the window.
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
So it needs further testing before they release it officially and can support it with no bugs.

Schooleydoo said:
Well 08/09/07 is out of the window.
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
So it needs further testing before they release it officially and can support it with no bugs.
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what kind of problems with web-n-walk? mine is due anytime now, just waiting on city link to deliver it. im going to stick my t-mobile contract sim in it and use it on t-mobile. i hope its not too bad a problem

Schooleydoo said:
Was told by a customer service rep yesterday (who i have been dealing with for a few years now and is very reliable) that they have had to push it back to late October.
This is due to customers buying the Kaiser from Expansys etc, putting a T-mobile sim in and finding certain processes failing, ie Web n Walk, GPS etc.
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Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...

eva_d said:
Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...
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phew i was getting worried. so is tomtom working fine on it?

dolbe said:
phew i was getting worried. so is tomtom working fine on it?
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Works fine, however I was disappointed with free map of London I've downloaded. It covers central London + zones 2, 3, maybe 4 - roughly. It surely doesn't cover Heathrow area, where I live. :/

is the tomtom you get with it a time trial? if so ill stick the version ive got on my vario with my uk and western european maps on it

dolbe said:
is the tomtom you get with it a time trial? if so ill stick the version ive got on my vario with my uk and western european maps on it
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It's not time limited, both TT and free map. You need to pay extra only when you want to download more maps.

ok well ive got a "fix" for tomtom so ill stick with the version ive got now. well its arrived and charging. just had a quick play with it before i let it charge...it was hard putting it down heh.

Gah you had me worried there
I should receive mine soon, i'll let you know if i have any issues! (on T-mobile as well).
Fingers crossed!

dolbe said:
ok well ive got a "fix" for tomtom so ill stick with the version ive got now. well its arrived and charging. just had a quick play with it before i let it charge...it was hard putting it down heh.
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Play with it whilst it's charging!

eva_d said:
Bullsh*t. First off, Kaiser has been released like 2-3 days ago, so how many of such customers are here already with that kind of problems, that T-Mobile could actually carry out 'further investigation'??? Second, I have T-Mobile's SIM card with web'n'walk, and so far no problems noticed! 3G/HSDPA, videocalls, GPS - all works out of the box, without troubles at all.
Personally, I think it's just crap talking. Anyway, even HTC's official press release last week (AFAIR) said that T-Mobile's release is due October...
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Cheers for that. What would i possibly gain from making that up?
Wont bother next time, but lets wait and see eh.
As for specific issues, she couldn't or wouldn't tell me, but when i asked if it was a data or gps problem she said it involves those processes.

I don't think eva_d was calling bullsh*t on you and your post, but on the T-mobile rep and thier reasons for delaying.

chaps said:
I don't think eva_d was calling bullsh*t on you and your post, but on the T-mobile rep and thier reasons for delaying.
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Yes, exactly. Sorry Schooleydoo if you took it wrong.

I was going to wait for Tmobiles branded version, however:
a) T-mobile have made it look like a dogs arse.
b) When i spotted it in stock on device wire, my credit card couldn't resist!

unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
(We would have no money what so ever if this system was not in place.)

pjam said:
unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
(We would have no money what so ever if this system was not in place.)
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Hehehe.. Snap!

pjam said:
unfortunately / fortunately, i have a safety system for such moments of weekness.
It's called "Wife"
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I have exactly the same safety system in place, and actually I never believed I'm going to get Kaiser on the very first stock release (in fact, I also was hoping to get Vario III), but well.. let's say my safety system got loose a bit in this case.

T-mobile October release date?
A T-mobile (UK) business customer rep called me today to say that my business contracts are coming up for renewal. When I said I was holding off renewing to wait for the new Vario he said that although he didn't have specific dates it might not be till late October :-( ! And because he didn't have specific details he couldn't even confirm whether there might be a hanset charge (or how much it might be). He did offer to reduce my monthly line rentals by 66% though for an upgrade with no handset so I'm thinking I'll take that and use the £ saved over the contract term to buy an unlocked Kaiser straightaway

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Yes, exactly. Sorry Schooleydoo if you took it wrong.
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Ahh i see.
[insert embarrased smiley here]
I hope it is crap to be honest, but have heard from her again since and have been told i can buy one from phones4u etc now, they will reimburse me but not give any support. However if the phone goes wrong, they will replace it for a T-mobile version next month.
Tempting

Schooleydoo said:
I hope it is crap to be honest, but have heard from her again since and have been told i can buy one from phones4u etc now, they will reimburse me but not give any support. However if the phone goes wrong, they will replace it for a T-mobile version next month.
Tempting
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Could you please clarify this? T-mob said you can buy and unbranded Kaiser (though i assume not from phones4u as they dont sell it i think), then they will give you the money for it, and if it goes wrong they will swap it for a branded kaiser???

Coming Soon to O2

So there been a few threads on the Kaiser on O2. It seems to becoming in December:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon

me like the silveryness

weird though i ran the upgrade line and they are still convinced its avilable from today

as far as i know, the retentions department tend to release phones to upgrade customers earlier than the official release date, if they have the phone in stock already.
but right now, stocks not in yet...

i am due a upgrade and didnt think this was coming to 02. It meant to arrive today, can i just not except the phone and reorder the stellar? any ideas when i could get one?

Anybody else notice that O2 claim the Stellar includes an FM Radio?

I called them up today and they said it was being released tomorrow :S

So...
Is it the Stella or Stellar?
Also, why silver? The black Exec was the coolest of all the Universal's that I saw.

The o2 gossip mill is on the roll again telling every one something different, as i rang up again after being promised it would be out this afternoon to now be told its been put back to the 26th . Im sure these guys are getting thier info off of the same websites we are looking at and posting on .
One guy basically told me they look at gsmarena to find out what available on there own network. Im guessing that tehre has been one too many leaks and all data is on a release day basis only. If only they actually looked at the whole thing and realised that giving accurate info will help reatain customers hell it may even bring people in if they thought there provider was being even a bit open with them.
right off to shout at a user

Orange Diamond Stock

As I am an employee of Orange I thought I would let you know...
We got an email to day to say there are 3000 handsets "in testing" at the moment, it might not be until August that Online Sales, Phone Sales and Stores will see these handsets. By then they will be Orange Branded.
I would take "in testing" to mean they are putting their own version / skin on the TF3D...um NO!
There was ONLY 413 handsets delivered to ONLY the top 100 stores so thats why they will be hard to find if there are any left. These lucky ones where the "Generic" ones.
I was just lucky I was working the day they where delivered to our store and I got my hands on mine or else I still wouldn't have one...No handset charge, £21 per month, 600mins 2000 texts, 250Mb internet bundle, and Free Insurance.
I work in a top 100 store and we only got 4, I bought mine and we sold the other three in 2 days.... We now have waiting list of about 25 people.... deep joy!
Oh! And from what I have been able to gather from speaking to our Tech Support team Orange's HSDPA coverage is pretty much non-existant unless you are in London and you are sitting on-top of a radio mast, so you may aswell switch it off.
I am finding some funny issues with mine at the moment though....
If I receive 2 text messages one after another (within 30 secs of each other) then the phone vibrates constantly until I take the battery out....anyone else had this?
Also, I installed TomTom 7 on it and for some reason "sometimes" when I call someone once the phone call is connected TomTom starts up all on its own....
The only software I have instlled on the device is TomTom 7 and the latest version of the TF3D config.
the phone is running the following configuration:-
ROM Version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
ROM Date: 12/06/2008
Radio Version: 1.00.25.03
Protocol Version 52.26a.25.09W
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I was told by the Orange rep today that the 3000 were about to be released. They're not going to test all 3000, just a small sample.
Then there'd me no more stock till August.
If that turns out not to be the case then I'll cancel my upgrade.

well im sending mine back on monday so there will be one more lol for someone.
any idea when the toutch pro will be coming out (the reason im sending the diamond back)?

bagg1234bagg said:
well im sending mine back on monday so there will be one more lol for someone.
any idea when the toutch pro will be coming out (the reason im sending the diamond back)?
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Touch Pro is a HELL of a lot thicker, so if the sleek look and feel of the Diamond is your bag it's not quite there with the Touch Pro.
It's not a 'better' phone as such, more aimed at those who demand QWERTY and extendable storage, though it does still look pretty cool.
Release date is allegedly september 1st, but this could be delayed all the more (remember the Shift anyone?)

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Touch Pro is a HELL of a lot thicker, so if the sleek look and feel of the Diamond is your bag it's not quite there with the Touch Pro.
It's not a 'better' phone as such, more aimed at those who demand QWERTY and extendable storage, though it does still look pretty cool.
Release date is allegedly september 1st, but this could be delayed all the more (remember the Shift anyone?)
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yeah i know what you meen, but it doesnt bother me coming from the kaiser any way, and all the other previous xda's ive had, i really want the qwerty keyboard thats about it really.

Got my Orange Diamond from mobiles.co.uk - ordered Thursday, sent Friday, delivered Saturday! They clearly have stock (although their website says otherwise!)

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Oh! And from what I have been able to gather from speaking to our Tech Support team Orange's HSDPA coverage is pretty much non-existant unless you are in London and you are sitting on-top of a radio mast, so you may aswell switch it off.
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Do you know anymore about the HSDPA rollout?
Cheers

huwwatkins said:
Do you know anymore about the HSDPA rollout?
Cheers
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Would love to know more about this sort of thing but I don't even know who I could contact or where on our vast and poorly made intranet system I could I find out more.
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pro looks like a brick
compared to the diamond.....
and when i stuck my diamond next to the new iphone
the iphone looked like a suit case compared to the diamond!
flash your diamond....and you will make it beter!

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well im sending mine back on monday so there will be one more lol for someone.
any idea when the toutch pro will be coming out (the reason im sending the diamond back)?
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If HTC launch the phone on September 1st then "IF" and only "IF" Orange decide to sell the handset just add about 2 Months to the launch before you would see it in an Orange shop or be able to get it from Orange direct.
e.g. The Diamond was launched, when?... Middle of May?....Only made it into Orange stock 2 months later.
DO NOT phone Orange anytime soon asking if they are doing Touch Pro as we only get about 3 weeks notice (if we are lucky) as to what the phones we will be selling, so nobody will be able to give you an answer, they just want to keep the hype down so that they don't sell out faster than they can get them in.
Also NEVER trust the instore magazine, in my 2 and a half years at Orange I have never ever seen one that has the truth in to for example the July Mag is the first one to have the Diamond in it with it's specification and not as a "Coming Soon" phone, and the mistake they made? They said it had a 5.0Mp camera. Another fave of the magazine people is to publish phones in there as coming soon but then never sell them!
So if you want to Touch Pro on Orange don't hold your breath, you might be lucky and get it just in time for XMAS!
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Also, if you don't like the answer the call centre person gives you, phone up again 5 minutes later - you get a different person and a different answer!
Keep ringing until you get the answer you like. lol

Can i check sth with the person that works for Orange? If we flash our diamond to a better and faster ROM and then sth happens and we have to send it back under warranty, does this invalidate our warranty? cause if we have a generic ROM on the handset, we can always claim it was one of the first ones that were not Orange branded, right?
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sgiannis said:
Can i check sth with the person that works for Orange? If we flash our diamond to a better and faster ROM and then sth happens and we have to send it back under warranty, does this invalidate our warranty? cause if we have a generic ROM on the handset, we can always claim it was one of the first ones that were not Orange branded, right?
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I would say do it, I've never heard of anyone being caught out in two years...
From a legal point of view it does invalidate your warranty...
As they used to say on "Blind Date"....
The Decision Is Yours.....
.G.

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From a legal point of view it does invalidate your warranty...
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But does it?
I have not read my current T&C, but I found nothing in previous T&Cs to say specifically that that altering the ROM would invalidate the phone warranty.
Technically if the phone is faulty, then it can be returned under warranty and unless the fault was caused directly by the owner/user, then the warranty should be honoured. So if the ROM change caused the fault then you are out of luck, but just because the ROM as been changed, does not mean the fault is the cause of that - for arguments sake a faulty screen or panel button
As this is an electronic device, then updates and enhancements will naturally become available and so its reasonable to assume that these can and should be applied - arguably in the same was as a PC can be upgraded.
But for those not in the UK, check local laws

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Oh! And from what I have been able to gather from speaking to our Tech Support team Orange's HSDPA coverage is pretty much non-existant unless you are in London and you are sitting on-top of a radio mast, so you may aswell switch it off.
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Orange HSDPA is working well for me when I travel to my 2 local towns - well north of Manchester but its mainly 3G unless I have my t-mobile chip in then in town it's always (H)

PaulusUK said:
But does it?
I have not read my current T&C, but I found nothing in previous T&Cs to say specifically that that altering the ROM would invalidate the phone warranty.
Technically if the phone is faulty, then it can be returned under warranty and unless the fault was caused directly by the owner/user, then the warranty should be honoured. So if the ROM change caused the fault then you are out of luck, but just because the ROM as been changed, does not mean the fault is the cause of that - for arguments sake a faulty screen or panel button
As this is an electronic device, then updates and enhancements will naturally become available and so its reasonable to assume that these can and should be applied - arguably in the same was as a PC can be upgraded.
But for those not in the UK, check local laws
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Sorry, I'm tired, I was getting things confused in my head, removing the SIM LOCK invalidates the warranty unless you get Orange to do it.
ROM updates are ok...
Sorry bout that...
.G.

Coolio! I can update my ROM and its OK!?
I ordered my ROM last saturday online from the Orange website....came on the Tuesday. No Orange branding! Just a small Orange logo on the back of the phone!
Got a few admirers at work. Everyone says its far better looking than the iBrick!
Still in love with my Artemis though! Got iGO8 on both!! ;-)

kidinspace said:
Sorry, I'm tired, I was getting things confused in my head, removing the SIM LOCK invalidates the warranty unless you get Orange to do it.
ROM updates are ok...
Sorry bout that...
.G.
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Good news... now i only have to wait for the diamond to get back in stock as i am eligible for an upgrade on Thursday.
Strange that Vodafone have the handset in stock (in Cambridge anyway) and Orange claim it's going to take a minimum of another couple of weeks... anyway...

sgiannis said:
Good news... now i only have to wait for the diamond to get back in stock as i am eligible for an upgrade on Thursday.
Strange that Vodafone have the handset in stock (in Cambridge anyway) and Orange claim it's going to take a minimum of another couple of weeks... anyway...
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Thats because all the original delivery has generic HTC software on it, the team the "bastardises" the phones are running behind schedule at the moment.
.G.

How can I get them to send it to me without them bastardizing it?