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I going to buy a new game console for my son's birthday. He wants a 360, but when I looked at the PS3, it seems to be a better buy.
There are several "cons" about the 360 that make me think the PS3 is a better buy.
No built in power supply
No HD movie support (Blu Ray)
No built in wireless
You have to pay for online gaming?
Ring of death?
Noisy operation?
No bluetooth (but do you need it?)
Are just some things that make me question purchasing it over a PS3.
This old fart needs some young gamers advise.
Why don't you just buy him a new high tech computer? It's much better and the games that are for xbox are mostly also for PC and you can play and connect to xbox players via windows live or something like that. I saw in gizmodo lol. But A computer is a much better buy. But from what you say,
Xbox 360:
Better gaming
Better controls
Better online play
PS3:
Better graphics
Tilt control (no one really uses it lol)
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
Can fit a regualar drive into it
PC:
ALL OF THE ABOVE
I got him a laptop 2 birthdays ago, but I doubt it has the horse power to run any games he wants.
I think his motivation for a XBox is the game Halo. He has several friends playing that game.
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PS3 has a brighter future then 360 and in about a year will be the dominating system
Take it from me I have all 3 current system and I play my ps3 90% of the time
I have all three and use the PS3 about 85% of the time. I even let my xbox live run out bc I just dont use it much anymore. I have started to play the WII a little more. Plus blue rays are awesome on my 47 and 63 inch 1080p tvs!
benmyers2941 said:
To get a PC that would be on par with the PS3 or even the 360 would be very expensive, much more that either console costs.
The games argument is a bit out dated. True exclusives are becoming more and more rare, most are just temporary. The 360 got FFXII and PS3 is getting Bioshock, though some titles won't move like Halo and Metal Gear.
On the hardware side, the PS3 can do more (bluray, linux, web browser, bluetooh, wi-fi) out of the box without hacking or other accessories.
For online play, the 360 has more people that play online. It's been building that user base for two console generations. The PS3 is just getting started with that.
I have a PS3, have one friend with a 360 and another with both. In the end it comes down to what you want to do with the console. If your son has a lot of friends with 360s that play each other a lot, he may feel left out with a PS3 if he likes to play online too. I've never been much interested in online gaming (it's not usually a friendly environment to a more casual player), so it doesn't bother me that I'm left out. My console can do more anyway
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I must argue that point. I've built a great PC for about $500. 4gb RAM, 500gb HDD, dvd-rw, custom led case. It's not that difficult. But my point still stands. The xbox 360 is superior in every way for online gaming. I would only get the PS3 if you're interested in titles such as MGS (Metal Gear Solid). But I also prefer the Wii. That's always a creative choice. And now it's getting even better with MotionPlus coming out.
i have both the elite and ps3. For Online experience I would say has to be elite at the moment value for money has be ps3 blu-ray, bluetooth, online free etc. Ps3 has the potential to be a much better games console then the xbox whether this potential is relised that is another matter.
i have always been a sony, always n nvr wanted/hated microsoft, but no one has a ps3, and the ONLY thing better is the graphics LATER on cuz sony announced that their games r yet to its fullest potential but, again no one has a ps3, the gameplay is so much better, ill just wait for ps4 and get that and its soooooooooooo much cheaper, i thnk the fixed the ring of death, on later versions and now wit the nexflx buy and different packages just get the 360, i love my ps3 but i dont play it much, only for the graphics and its also used for blu ray so i use for that also, and im sure he will want it just in time for Gears of war 2 and UFC undisputed
The more I look into this, the more it's looking like my son is getting a Xbox......... and I'm getting a PS3.
GWelker62 said:
The more I look into this, the more it's looking like my son is getting a Xbox......... and I'm getting a PS3.
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Awesome! Be sure to come back and post your PSN ID!
the PS3 is simply a better system known world wide. u have already named a couple of the better features urself. the XBox 360 has NOTHING better than the PS3. it also has NOTHING that the PS3 doesnt already have. and it simply doesnt have some of the things that the PS3 has also. lets start with the grafix. to be honest... they arent really worth comparing but i have owned them both and i have sold my XBox 360 because i was in so much of a rush to get rid of the crappy system. ive owned both the same titles on XBox and PS3 and noticed that the PS3 games looked way better and into detail. u have to purchase the wireless XBox controller.... all of the PS3 controllers are wireless. the XBox has a bulky wired head set for their internet chat... while with the PS3 (since it has built-in bluetooth technology) u can use the same small bluetooth headset that u would use with ur phone ON THE GAME CONSOLE. how convenient and universal the PS3 makes ur wireless headset. oh i forgot.... the XBox has a wireless headset also.... but u cant pair it to ur phone, HA . as for online gaming. who can really compare the online gaming??? thats so false what the guy on the first page said. the online gaming performance ALWAYS depends on ur broadband connection, not the console itself. so the online gaming is completely the same. BUT!!!!! XBox u have to pay monthly.... sony made theirs free of charge to have fun. the built-in SixAxis is a really cool feature in the PS3 controller if u do choose to use it. i myself use it very little, but it is still a nice feature to have. its xtremely fun and makes u feel more into the game if u ask me. just like the Nintendo Wii. the XBox does non of this. the XBox has no built-in cooler and the system runs VERY HOT!! run it too long..... and its gone! trust me. i've owned 3 of the peices of crap and its true. u have to buy and external system cooler and it still doesnt work cuz my second XBox over heated too... and once again, i was introduce (FOR THE SECOND TIME) to the "Red Rings OF Death". and the XBox doesnt have to over heat to give you the "Rings OF Death". just simply try to turn it on one day and u will see them... TAA DAAA lol. u have to turn it on and off about 30 times to finally get it to come on. that IF u didnt already over heat it. cuz then its GONE COMPLETELY. the PS3 always turns on. ALWAYS without a problem. remember this popular slogan? well this time lets point it toward the "Ring OF Death"...... "ONLY ON THE XBOX 360" lmao. trust me bro. i dont think anyone else can tell u any better. ive owned them BOTH and the PS3 is just way better. everyone knows. even those people that try to lie and say the PS3 is worse. even they know the PS3 is better. numbers never lie so take a look for urself at the console sales. the Nintendo Wii sold the most.... PS3 sold alot right underneath it..... the XBox sold not even 1 Forth compared to both consoles. everyone knows it for its bad rep. and now that bill gates retired and the head guy for it games is gone too...... what future do they have now??? and look at it this way man. if all the other reasons are not good enuff... the PS3 is STILL THE CHEAPEST BLUE-RAY DVD PLAYER U WILL EVER FIND! simple as that. enuff said yet?? sorry for the long post. just wanted to point u in the right direction. u get what u pay for. dont buy something that not going to last, let alone entertain you.
rico002 said:
i have always been a sony, always n nvr wanted/hated microsoft, but no one has a ps3, and the ONLY thing better is the graphics LATER on cuz sony announced that their games r yet to its fullest potential but, again no one has a ps3, the gameplay is so much better, ill just wait for ps4 and get that and its soooooooooooo much cheaper, i thnk the fixed the ring of death, on later versions and now wit the nexflx buy and different packages just get the 360, i love my ps3 but i dont play it much, only for the graphics and its also used for blu ray so i use for that also, and im sure he will want it just in time for Gears of war 2 and UFC undisputed
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here we go again with the "nobody owns a PS3" talk again...... omg lol. when u go online to play a game and u enter a room to play. its always full. xbox is always full too. alot of people play online. so how can u compare that system to that other garbage system THAT HAD TO COME OUT WITH AN ELITE VERSION to fix only SOME OF ITS MAJOR BUG ISSUES. man that 360 is wack. just telling the truth and keeping it honest. besides.... u say nobody owns a PS3???? numbers never lie man.... numbers never lie. nobody has a 360 if u ask me. i remember when it first came out. nobody lined up outside with lines wrapped about the building, waiting for them to open so they could buy one. and i remember everywhere i went, they always had them on shelves trying to sell them. on the other hand.... it was very difficult to get my hands on a PS3. mann........ that thing sold like CANNED P*SSY.... u thought i was gone say hot cakes huh. hhaahaha
double post... sry
Fresh2Death said:
double post... sry
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so make it a triple post by apologizing???
shanetheclassic said:
PS3 has a brighter future then 360 and in about a year will be the dominating system
Take it from me I have all 3 current system and I play my ps3 90% of the time
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correction. PS3 has been and IS still dominating the XBox 360 since its release. how many times do i have to say this.... numbers never lie. DO YOUR HOME WORK.
Fresh2Death said:
correction. PS3 has been and IS still dominating the XBox 360 since its release. how many times do i have to say this.... numbers never lie. DO YOUR HOME WORK.
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PS3 did not dominate when it first came out...no one bought it due to its price
Now with the pricedrop and expansion of games, PS3 is the dominating system
I have owned both so here is my take on it:-
No built in power supply - a pain as its big and needs to be kept cool
No HD movie support (Blu Ray) - will be an issue in a few years
No built in wireless - means you need to keep it near to a socket - pain
You have to pay for online gaming? - con as ps3 is free
Ring of death? - yep it will happen to you as everyone i know has had it. Mine went after 1 year and it was a real pain to send back and get repaired but MS did fix it for free it around in 2 weeks. They replaced the motherboard and the CD drive as that was also going wrong. Very Poor for a year old machine.
This was the reason I traded it in for a Wii once MS sent it back
Noisy operation? YES IT IS NOISY compared to the wisper of a PS3
No bluetooth (but do you need it?) No use for it except controllers
PS3 now has plenty of good cheap and 2nd hand games, IMO it looks better, controllers have built in battery that last much longer, itssilent, blu ray, wifi, free online. PS3 wins.
I have both and I use my Xbox for gaming and the ps3 for watching movies. Come this fall you'll be able to save xbox games to harddrive so youll have faster load times and it lifts the limitation on the dvd storage, im sure sony will eventually follow suit. Of course xbox live isnt free but it has less lag than the ps3. But id see which system more of his friends has bc he will get more out of it(i.e playing online and borrowing games).
jasonrush said:
I have both and I use my Xbox for gaming and the ps3 for watching movies. Come this fall you'll be able to save xbox games to harddrive so youll have faster load times and it lifts the limitation on the dvd storage, im sure sony will eventually follow suit. Of course xbox live isnt free but it has less lag than the ps3. But id see which system more of his friends has bc he will get more out of it(i.e playing online and borrowing games).
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As far as the Games on HDD goes, if your 360 is modded you can already do that.
A majority of games for PS3 write large amounts of Data when you first load the game to the HDD giving it much faster access
ONLY DOWNFALL OF PS3 - IT WILL NEVER BE MODDED!!!! Many have tried, none have succeeded. Sony seems to have learned from the PSP
okay so i just watched this review on the ipad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luj263H_56A
and i have to say wow..until today i was thinking of it as the most useless gadget ever, but man i WANT IT!...the thought of wifi tether on my nexus one and the ipad is amazing to me..somebody please convince me not to get it :/ its soo nice though damn you apple and your sleek products
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oh boo you suck thats my first moved thread lol
You have to conform to Apple's way of seeing things until (or if) there is a way to jailbreak it (Geohot's untethered jailbreak is not yet proven to work on iPad). That should calm you for a while.
And you will have to pay for future updates it seems. Check this.
But! Could also be an April joke, can't be sure these days But you want to be cooled off, just assume it's true!
What's the point of buying a retarted ipad ?
It can't do anything, it's just a simple touchscreen device & that's all. They only advertise that iPad can
read your emails,
play dx7 games
store 64gb data
read ebooks
listen to music
Well my old P3 550mhz laptop with a Wi-fi card can do more than ipad can.
"play dx7 games"
?? dx7 as in directX 7 ? doubt it ms never ported directx to any other os
I know dx wasnt ported to another os, i was referring to the 3d game texture quality, the ipad and iphone games are just simple dx7 quality games.
I'd rather have a netbook then a slate PC, I really wouldn't pay that much for nothing more then a large iPod touch...
and guess what I can get a 32gb card now and it's miles cheaper!
@Sem nice to see you here
But I agree I mean Windows mobile 7 has a really nice engine for 3D I'd say that would be on par with PSP/PS2 the iPhail would be more PS1 lol
Semseddin said:
What's the point of buying a retarted ipad ?
It can't do anything, it's just a simple touchscreen device & that's all. They only advertise that iPad can
read your emails,
play dx7 games
store 64gb data
read ebooks
listen to music
Well my old P3 550mhz laptop with a Wi-fi card can do more than ipad can.
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Le sigh. You're calling a product retarded because it's not designed to do what you want it to do, but has the potential. If I shove bread in to a VCR it has the potential to make toast, but it's not designed to do that.
Exaggeration ftw!
Not a fanboy lol
I don't really like apple, but a lot of people are just fooling themselves to think that this will fail. . .Remember all of the people who said the iPhone would fail?
Apple makes pretty premium quality stuff that looks nice, come on now, don't tell me you didn't like the iPhone design? I do like how apple makes things look really premium. The iPad? Now that will bring some pretty cool competition later.
It gets annoying when lots of people talk trash and stuff, its a gadget, not a club lol. Get over it. I love all the three evils. . . WM, Android, and the iPhone(to a limited extent, douchebaggery is not included lol). Once this thing gets cracked and hacked, then we will see some cool things.
People you have to understand that apple, is all about the consumer, not people like us. They will always tend to the idiots.
And to the "my old P3 550mhz laptop with a Wi-fi card can do more than ipad can.". Wow you really don't see all the developers lining up one by one to develop for apple?
I agree, Adrian. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean its a failure or useless. it won't fail because of a dedicated consumer base, which microsoft doesn't really inspire..I don't own a boat and have never seen the need for a boat, but, lots of folks own them and love them. And tito, consumer doesn't equal idiot. Every time you purchase something, you are a consumer.
witch1 said:
I agree, Adrian. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean its a failure or useless. it won't fail because of a dedicated consumer base, which microsoft doesn't really inspire..I don't own a boat and have never seen the need for a boat, but, lots of folks own them and love them. And tito, consumer doesn't equal idiot. Every time you purchase something, you are a consumer.
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By consumer, I mean "WOW LOOK AT ALL THESE APPZ ZOMG!!!!".
Also, we are all consumers, and I mean regular Joe Shmoe who gets swayed by those sham wow commercials.
Semseddin said:
What's the point of buying a retarted ipad ?
It can't do anything, it's just a simple touchscreen device & that's all. They only advertise that iPad can
read your emails,
play dx7 games
store 64gb data
read ebooks
listen to music
Well my old P3 550mhz laptop with a Wi-fi card can do more than ipad can.
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not gracefully though.
Some of you guys are really talking bull****. If you want a toast machine then get a toast machine, i don't mind.
Just reply to my conclusions about a P3 550mhz laptop vs iPad before you give nonsense examples. Btw you can install much more apps to any windows machine than a retarded ipad. If you don't agree, then make some research and try to clean the illusion of the apple make-up on your mind.
Semseddin said:
Some of you guys are really talking bull****. If you want a toast machine then get a toast machine, i don't mind.
Just reply to my conclusions about a P3 550mhz laptop vs iPad before you give nonsense examples. Btw you can install much more apps to any windows machine than a retarded ipad. If you don't agree, then make some research and try to clean the illusion of the apple make-up on your mind.
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A P3 550mhz Laptop can install what ever it wants, but everything will run like crap and it will be a horrible experience.
On topic, why would you want to buy something that to really be useful you would have to jailbreak? It's like buying a six cylinder mustang, just so you could put the eight cylinder motor in it: just buy the V-8...Apple is all about controlling every facet of their products, why pay for someone else to tell you what you should and should not be able to do with something that is yours?
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Is beyond me how some people compare a pentium 3 to an iPad to prove a point.
I own an iPod and a nexus one.
Not my Dell xps, MacBook pro, or my old hp mini compares to the experience the iPad provides.
The whole experience is feels like 2010. This is truly the future and people being hard headed towards the fact that apple have another winner on their hands really need to get their heads out of their ass and judge the product accordingly not following the hate apple trend.
I am enjoying the he'll out of my iPad i don't miss flash. I been using computers for over 15 years and I never was a flash power user.
The abc,netflix and clicker web app can provide you with anything you want to view without the need for flash.
And hulu is coming to the iPad. People are riding the flash bandwagon but it's been proven adobe stood still on that technology for too long.
HTML5 like the iPad is the future.
For me is going to be apple computers and android for phone.
It gets no better. You get to experience both worlds. The apps on the iPad are polished our beloved android is still in infancy in terms of app development.
Stop hating on the iPad people it is an amazing device. And tethering with android is awesome
Sent from my iPad while listening to my music. The only multitasking i care about is music and browsing and I have booth out cof the box.
So I've been looking around on Google for a tutorial on how to jailbreak a Xbox 360 but seems like all the links are fake and can't find a legit guide. And where better to ask than the forum I read daily full of genius developers can anybody help me out? Its a Xbox 360 slim 4gb. Thanks!
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What software version is the xbox?
You can find more about it here, http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php
But to be honest I doubt you will be able to jtag it since it's a slim and they are quite new.
not sure what software version it is, ill check it when i get home, but i guess if theres a will theres a way lol
What country to you live in?
In the UK you can send it off to get the drive flashed.
Don't know about any other country.
My Xbox 360 is an Arcade model (the old one). Its flashed and allows you to play copied games.
(but we can't talk about stuff like this here)
BTW: the new xbox 360 cannot be JTAGed.
Xbox 360 is simple to mod, all you need is the correct sata card, I use Via, and the Jungleflasher software to flash your dvd drive with the custom firmware.
Jtag is a bit more complicated, and dependent on your software version.
I have a Jtagged console, but as most of the jtaggable consoles are old and mostly Red ring, the Jtag scene has pretty much died.
Will any body tell me that how I could jailbreak my Xbox 360 E 4gb console, as I couldn't found any legit guide to do though. Please help me...!
Gang, I'm back into console gaming after a 6 year break with the purchase of a Gears of War Limited Edition XBOX 360 system yesterday. I haven't had anything at all to do with gaming...except the smartphone type...for 6 years and have no clue what forums there are that are as useful as XDA. Recommendations are needed.
www.consolediscussions.com
Thats one of the sites I used to visit frequently back in my PSP hacking/modding days. They have forums that cover all gaming consoles/devices.
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Personal recommendation would be to ditch the console and assemble your own budget controlled gaming PC ... you can get some superb stuff on newegg.com
But only if you like that kind of stuff....
Or else just go for the Xbox 360 that you are planning !
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Okay so, I have a first gen xbox 360 and have heard of jailbreaking an xbox and that you can run homebrew and get free games for it, but have found too many different tutorials that are all saying that you have to buy all sorts of different connectors and things just to do it. Does anyone know the best tutorial that I should use, and the best things to buy to do it? I know that i need some sort of connector to connect the xbox to a computer but dont know where to get one. also, what are all the pros and cons of jailbreaking an xbox? the main reason i want to do it is just to play downloaded games. thanks guys