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PS3 or XBox 360, which one would you buy?

I going to buy a new game console for my son's birthday. He wants a 360, but when I looked at the PS3, it seems to be a better buy.
There are several "cons" about the 360 that make me think the PS3 is a better buy.
No built in power supply
No HD movie support (Blu Ray)
No built in wireless
You have to pay for online gaming?
Ring of death?
Noisy operation?
No bluetooth (but do you need it?)
Are just some things that make me question purchasing it over a PS3.
This old fart needs some young gamers advise.

Why don't you just buy him a new high tech computer? It's much better and the games that are for xbox are mostly also for PC and you can play and connect to xbox players via windows live or something like that. I saw in gizmodo lol. But A computer is a much better buy. But from what you say,
Xbox 360:
Better gaming
Better controls
Better online play
PS3:
Better graphics
Tilt control (no one really uses it lol)
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
Can fit a regualar drive into it
PC:
ALL OF THE ABOVE

I got him a laptop 2 birthdays ago, but I doubt it has the horse power to run any games he wants.
I think his motivation for a XBox is the game Halo. He has several friends playing that game.

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PS3 has a brighter future then 360 and in about a year will be the dominating system
Take it from me I have all 3 current system and I play my ps3 90% of the time

I have all three and use the PS3 about 85% of the time. I even let my xbox live run out bc I just dont use it much anymore. I have started to play the WII a little more. Plus blue rays are awesome on my 47 and 63 inch 1080p tvs!

benmyers2941 said:
To get a PC that would be on par with the PS3 or even the 360 would be very expensive, much more that either console costs.
The games argument is a bit out dated. True exclusives are becoming more and more rare, most are just temporary. The 360 got FFXII and PS3 is getting Bioshock, though some titles won't move like Halo and Metal Gear.
On the hardware side, the PS3 can do more (bluray, linux, web browser, bluetooh, wi-fi) out of the box without hacking or other accessories.
For online play, the 360 has more people that play online. It's been building that user base for two console generations. The PS3 is just getting started with that.
I have a PS3, have one friend with a 360 and another with both. In the end it comes down to what you want to do with the console. If your son has a lot of friends with 360s that play each other a lot, he may feel left out with a PS3 if he likes to play online too. I've never been much interested in online gaming (it's not usually a friendly environment to a more casual player), so it doesn't bother me that I'm left out. My console can do more anyway
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I must argue that point. I've built a great PC for about $500. 4gb RAM, 500gb HDD, dvd-rw, custom led case. It's not that difficult. But my point still stands. The xbox 360 is superior in every way for online gaming. I would only get the PS3 if you're interested in titles such as MGS (Metal Gear Solid). But I also prefer the Wii. That's always a creative choice. And now it's getting even better with MotionPlus coming out.

i have both the elite and ps3. For Online experience I would say has to be elite at the moment value for money has be ps3 blu-ray, bluetooth, online free etc. Ps3 has the potential to be a much better games console then the xbox whether this potential is relised that is another matter.

i have always been a sony, always n nvr wanted/hated microsoft, but no one has a ps3, and the ONLY thing better is the graphics LATER on cuz sony announced that their games r yet to its fullest potential but, again no one has a ps3, the gameplay is so much better, ill just wait for ps4 and get that and its soooooooooooo much cheaper, i thnk the fixed the ring of death, on later versions and now wit the nexflx buy and different packages just get the 360, i love my ps3 but i dont play it much, only for the graphics and its also used for blu ray so i use for that also, and im sure he will want it just in time for Gears of war 2 and UFC undisputed

The more I look into this, the more it's looking like my son is getting a Xbox......... and I'm getting a PS3.

GWelker62 said:
The more I look into this, the more it's looking like my son is getting a Xbox......... and I'm getting a PS3.
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Awesome! Be sure to come back and post your PSN ID!

the PS3 is simply a better system known world wide. u have already named a couple of the better features urself. the XBox 360 has NOTHING better than the PS3. it also has NOTHING that the PS3 doesnt already have. and it simply doesnt have some of the things that the PS3 has also. lets start with the grafix. to be honest... they arent really worth comparing but i have owned them both and i have sold my XBox 360 because i was in so much of a rush to get rid of the crappy system. ive owned both the same titles on XBox and PS3 and noticed that the PS3 games looked way better and into detail. u have to purchase the wireless XBox controller.... all of the PS3 controllers are wireless. the XBox has a bulky wired head set for their internet chat... while with the PS3 (since it has built-in bluetooth technology) u can use the same small bluetooth headset that u would use with ur phone ON THE GAME CONSOLE. how convenient and universal the PS3 makes ur wireless headset. oh i forgot.... the XBox has a wireless headset also.... but u cant pair it to ur phone, HA . as for online gaming. who can really compare the online gaming??? thats so false what the guy on the first page said. the online gaming performance ALWAYS depends on ur broadband connection, not the console itself. so the online gaming is completely the same. BUT!!!!! XBox u have to pay monthly.... sony made theirs free of charge to have fun. the built-in SixAxis is a really cool feature in the PS3 controller if u do choose to use it. i myself use it very little, but it is still a nice feature to have. its xtremely fun and makes u feel more into the game if u ask me. just like the Nintendo Wii. the XBox does non of this. the XBox has no built-in cooler and the system runs VERY HOT!! run it too long..... and its gone! trust me. i've owned 3 of the peices of crap and its true. u have to buy and external system cooler and it still doesnt work cuz my second XBox over heated too... and once again, i was introduce (FOR THE SECOND TIME) to the "Red Rings OF Death". and the XBox doesnt have to over heat to give you the "Rings OF Death". just simply try to turn it on one day and u will see them... TAA DAAA lol. u have to turn it on and off about 30 times to finally get it to come on. that IF u didnt already over heat it. cuz then its GONE COMPLETELY. the PS3 always turns on. ALWAYS without a problem. remember this popular slogan? well this time lets point it toward the "Ring OF Death"...... "ONLY ON THE XBOX 360" lmao. trust me bro. i dont think anyone else can tell u any better. ive owned them BOTH and the PS3 is just way better. everyone knows. even those people that try to lie and say the PS3 is worse. even they know the PS3 is better. numbers never lie so take a look for urself at the console sales. the Nintendo Wii sold the most.... PS3 sold alot right underneath it..... the XBox sold not even 1 Forth compared to both consoles. everyone knows it for its bad rep. and now that bill gates retired and the head guy for it games is gone too...... what future do they have now??? and look at it this way man. if all the other reasons are not good enuff... the PS3 is STILL THE CHEAPEST BLUE-RAY DVD PLAYER U WILL EVER FIND! simple as that. enuff said yet?? sorry for the long post. just wanted to point u in the right direction. u get what u pay for. dont buy something that not going to last, let alone entertain you.

rico002 said:
i have always been a sony, always n nvr wanted/hated microsoft, but no one has a ps3, and the ONLY thing better is the graphics LATER on cuz sony announced that their games r yet to its fullest potential but, again no one has a ps3, the gameplay is so much better, ill just wait for ps4 and get that and its soooooooooooo much cheaper, i thnk the fixed the ring of death, on later versions and now wit the nexflx buy and different packages just get the 360, i love my ps3 but i dont play it much, only for the graphics and its also used for blu ray so i use for that also, and im sure he will want it just in time for Gears of war 2 and UFC undisputed
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here we go again with the "nobody owns a PS3" talk again...... omg lol. when u go online to play a game and u enter a room to play. its always full. xbox is always full too. alot of people play online. so how can u compare that system to that other garbage system THAT HAD TO COME OUT WITH AN ELITE VERSION to fix only SOME OF ITS MAJOR BUG ISSUES. man that 360 is wack. just telling the truth and keeping it honest. besides.... u say nobody owns a PS3???? numbers never lie man.... numbers never lie. nobody has a 360 if u ask me. i remember when it first came out. nobody lined up outside with lines wrapped about the building, waiting for them to open so they could buy one. and i remember everywhere i went, they always had them on shelves trying to sell them. on the other hand.... it was very difficult to get my hands on a PS3. mann........ that thing sold like CANNED P*SSY.... u thought i was gone say hot cakes huh. hhaahaha

double post... sry

Fresh2Death said:
double post... sry
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so make it a triple post by apologizing???

shanetheclassic said:
PS3 has a brighter future then 360 and in about a year will be the dominating system
Take it from me I have all 3 current system and I play my ps3 90% of the time
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correction. PS3 has been and IS still dominating the XBox 360 since its release. how many times do i have to say this.... numbers never lie. DO YOUR HOME WORK.

Fresh2Death said:
correction. PS3 has been and IS still dominating the XBox 360 since its release. how many times do i have to say this.... numbers never lie. DO YOUR HOME WORK.
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PS3 did not dominate when it first came out...no one bought it due to its price
Now with the pricedrop and expansion of games, PS3 is the dominating system

I have owned both so here is my take on it:-
No built in power supply - a pain as its big and needs to be kept cool
No HD movie support (Blu Ray) - will be an issue in a few years
No built in wireless - means you need to keep it near to a socket - pain
You have to pay for online gaming? - con as ps3 is free
Ring of death? - yep it will happen to you as everyone i know has had it. Mine went after 1 year and it was a real pain to send back and get repaired but MS did fix it for free it around in 2 weeks. They replaced the motherboard and the CD drive as that was also going wrong. Very Poor for a year old machine.
This was the reason I traded it in for a Wii once MS sent it back
Noisy operation? YES IT IS NOISY compared to the wisper of a PS3
No bluetooth (but do you need it?) No use for it except controllers
PS3 now has plenty of good cheap and 2nd hand games, IMO it looks better, controllers have built in battery that last much longer, itssilent, blu ray, wifi, free online. PS3 wins.

I have both and I use my Xbox for gaming and the ps3 for watching movies. Come this fall you'll be able to save xbox games to harddrive so youll have faster load times and it lifts the limitation on the dvd storage, im sure sony will eventually follow suit. Of course xbox live isnt free but it has less lag than the ps3. But id see which system more of his friends has bc he will get more out of it(i.e playing online and borrowing games).

jasonrush said:
I have both and I use my Xbox for gaming and the ps3 for watching movies. Come this fall you'll be able to save xbox games to harddrive so youll have faster load times and it lifts the limitation on the dvd storage, im sure sony will eventually follow suit. Of course xbox live isnt free but it has less lag than the ps3. But id see which system more of his friends has bc he will get more out of it(i.e playing online and borrowing games).
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As far as the Games on HDD goes, if your 360 is modded you can already do that.
A majority of games for PS3 write large amounts of Data when you first load the game to the HDD giving it much faster access
ONLY DOWNFALL OF PS3 - IT WILL NEVER BE MODDED!!!! Many have tried, none have succeeded. Sony seems to have learned from the PSP

[REQUEST]Use Android as Gamepad for Windows

hey guys.
i`d like to ask if there´s an app that allows to use your android phone as gamepad for windows. just like nebudroid, but with multitouch.
some suggestions?

Although personally I cant find anything that allows you to do that, if you just want to use your phone to play emulators on windows or other things, then try using RemoteDroid, but its really only that useful if your phone has a physical keyboard. Its incredibly easy to set-up, took me 3 minutes.

i know android can pretty much do anything, but IMO there are just some things it shouldn't. wired xbox 360 controller will make you at least 5^14x happier.

Well... a "wired xbox 360 controller" might "make you at least 5^14x happier." but I don't feel like carrying that around all the time whereas carrying a phone around is already a necessary evil

maybe someone could share any news regarding this topic?

cps7 said:
maybe someone could share any news regarding this topic?
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agamepad ??
you should try to check at http://code.google.com/p/agamepad/

[REQUEST] $200+ in donations for working TV out w/CM.

In the quest for the ultimate device, CM gets pretty close. A bunch of people on the CM forums are chiming in with donations for working TV-out for the Incredible, and I wanted to cross-post it here to hopefully garner some more attention and interest.
The goal here is to have working TV out without compromising any other main functionality (like Bluetooth on Sense ROMs).
Not sure if it's possible at all, but if I can attach my phone to my TV and play SNES with my kids using Wiimotes, I will chip in my $20 bucks, and a bunch of other people will too.
The donation count was up to 160 bucks on CM forums as of the time of this post, and I have 3 friends that will chip in as well.

If it happened, I'd donate. CM already deserves donations, but this would up the amount for sure.

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol

i'd chip in if that happens (and before i jump ship and get an Incredible HD lol), absolutely

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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I'm pretty sure tv out works on other (sense-less) roms, it's just a cyanogenmod issue. Use a different rom & it should work. I know nothing about video game systems past the ps1, so does the xbox 360 have bluetooth controllers? If it does, there should be an app on the market for it.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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The Xbox 360 controllers work via radio, not bluetooth. Just an FYI.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do

g00s3y said:
Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do
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thats what i do too, the bluetooth dongle was $2 on amazon and everything else was already in place for me.

I would also chip in $20! It is the only thing that I really miss of HTC Sense.

Bluetooth is required to connect the Wiimote to the phone. The Bluetooth stack on sense roms is a piece of crap and doesn't allow modern protocols.
As for the computer thing, I want to be able to do this in the car, at a friends, or anywhere that doesn't involve lugging around a computer. That's why I have a smartphone.
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From what I read they had to reverse engineer the entire HDMI stack to get HDMI working on the EVO -- I'm guessing they'd have to do the same to get TV-OUT working on the the DInc? Heh... or we could all save up cuz the DInc HD is alleged to be "revealed" on Jan 6th. A device that basically looks like a VzW EVO. ;P
But seriously... I'd give it a go and even help if we had source code. But I don't think you get source code when you reverse engineer...

+1 on this. There's got to be some way to get both bluetooth and TV out functioning on the same rom. The wiimote+tv out idea is pretty much the reason I got the incredible when it came out, only to discover that its now been nearly a year with no solution to this!

I may have to buy a TV-out cable and see if I can get some extra money! LOL!

Go for it!!! (connect 4!!)

I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.

ericlmccormick said:
I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.
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AND ericlmccormick, FROM THE AUDIENCE, WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!

This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....

joe3681 said:
This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....
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I dunno if it's insane so much as it is a small minority of people realizing what it's gonna take to motivate those with the skill to solve the issue. Realistically, I'd bet thousands of people have an incredible in their pockets and don't even know it can do TV out, and will never try even if you told them. Verizon certainly doesn't make much noise about the feature!
And even those of us that are savvy enough to know, might never use it enough to care. How many of us are running CM6.1 right now without feeling any loss of function? Dare I say, enough people that the entire process of making CM run on an incredible went through to the point of being called "stable" without even a hint of that feature being available. I know Im running it....even though I want TV out real bad.
Theres so little steam for this, that unless we can literally "fund" the R&D to make it happen ourselves, it might just disappear as newer phones come out and development stops on the older ones. I remember in april last year being amazed that I had a phone that ran @ 1GHz. I mean, seriously. One [email protected]#$^$& gigahertz. And now, we're *****ing about the thunderbolt because it doesn't have dual cores in it! I can't recall a single year in phones where these kinds of leaps and bounds have been so constant.
The whole world of software is a strange parallel to the music industry, wherein it used to be a giant divide between "local band" and "warner bros gold record". Then we had the internet, and an entire underground revolution took place where artists on the ground level could again get their music to the masses, and since most of the middlemen were removed, it again became possible for the idea of a "modest" living on music to be made. The 10 bucks that someone pays for a vynal is going mostly to the artist, where the 25 you'd spend on a major CD might reach the artist as only 2 dollars. The artist wins, the listeners win, and the same kids who were "sticking it to the man" by downloading major releases turn around and trumpet the virtues of "support your favorite bands!!"
This whole world of phone tweaking is almost like that - for years we were lucky if a company made an app for something, and if they didn't, well, a lot of times it didn't get made. Sure, some people developed for WM, but based strictly on popularity of the platform, I couldn't do half of what I can with my android, even though there isn't a huge difference in hardware. It was also much more difficult to find the guys who made these programs - some of them were made in the 90's and just stayed part of the WM continuum for years after they should have been replaced.
Now we have a whole community based on this android os, and it feels like a lot of the middleman has been cut out of the equation - the "audience" can directly reach the "artist", and through that direct connection, can much more easily justify paying for the efforts made. It's hard to pay 60 bucks for a windows mobile app for GPS, for example, knowing that the developer at the end will see only a few cents of that. But when the price on the google market is only 5 bucks for an app, and you know a large percentage of that is going directly to the guy who put in his time and effort to make the program, it's much easier to swallow that.
When someone writes a program, Torque is a great example, that helps me, I'm willing to give the DEV some funding for it, just like I'm willing to pay for tickets to see a local show.
It's a sort of "golden age of software" that I think many have been waiting for, almost as if we get the virtues of "mom and pop shop" service, with the Walmart pricing we've come to depend on as a society.
Hell, I paid 15 bucks for the cable to make TV out function. After what I've paid for accessories for this phone, and considering I intend to keep it till t breaks, I'm certainly willing to contribute to the guy who finally gets the TV out running like it should. If I was a capable software dev, I'd do it myself. But, I'm not. I am however a mechanic, computer systems admin, musician, live sound engineer, and multitude of other things. And when someone asks for me to solve an issue in one of those areas, well, it's certainly nice to make a little scratch on it!
Sorry about the long rant, I'm drunk. And feverishly hoping someone makes this happen! Last trip I took was 12k miles of driving with no real map, in an overheating van, forgot the CD book at home, with a bunch of guys in the back begging for internet access, and we never ever had a hotel lined up before arriving at a destination. And my phone helped solve 100% of these problems, over and over again. Now if only I could get street fighter on the hotel TV from my phone (and hand a wii controller to my opponent), I could die a happy man!

Nothing but real talk man ^

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Xbox JTAG/jailbreak

Okay so, I have a first gen xbox 360 and have heard of jailbreaking an xbox and that you can run homebrew and get free games for it, but have found too many different tutorials that are all saying that you have to buy all sorts of different connectors and things just to do it. Does anyone know the best tutorial that I should use, and the best things to buy to do it? I know that i need some sort of connector to connect the xbox to a computer but dont know where to get one. also, what are all the pros and cons of jailbreaking an xbox? the main reason i want to do it is just to play downloaded games. thanks guys

HTPC build questions

Gonna build a HTPC. Netflix, Watching downloaded tv shows/ movies. Internet browsing. Could use it for rooting phones and what not. Hosting the odin/sbf/what ever fliles that kinda thing. Would be cool if I could set up a server type stuff so other computers can see the data and If i could see it on stuff like a cloud server would be a plus.
I don't know a ton about pc specs. AMD vs intel. stuff like that. I don't need some powerhouse here for what Im doing.
I'd like to keep it on the cheaper end, but good performing and reliable.. Maybe a barebones kit for the processor, box, power supply and stuff then buy the rest on its own.
Go Windows based or linux based? Did they find a more simple way to watch netflix on linux yet? last I heard you had to install a few patches find old silverlight and firefox or something.
Obviously HD compacity depends on what/ how much I download. But any brands to stay away from? Any specs I should look at?
Worth it to put a ssd in for the operating system then run a conventional drive for the storage? Will that help with reliability assuming that the drive wouldn't be spinning while I'm browsing/watching netflix and or the system is sleeping/standby?
Minimum amount of ram?
What do I need to look for in video card? AMD or Nivida work with linux? It would be nice to have it be able to work as a dvr if it won't require me to bump up processor specs a whole lot ($$ only worth it if the price is right)
I think that's about it..
Any suggestions? Thanks.

It's off topic, not development

can't tell if your being serious or not? I figured this would be the best place? seems off topic its not about phones..

99% of anything works with Linux.....I run xubuntu
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I was told one of the brands of video cards didn't work well. something about the drivers.
Also Netflix requires silverlite to stream and that is something that is missing from linux. But I do have a ps3 so netflix streaming isn't a must at this point as I can just use that.. It would just be nice to have a all in one unit

This seems like a good start http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7544705&CatId=31 anyone see any issues? Seems the video card isn't that great but they are cheap now a days if i need it replaced.