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I was watching Transformers yesterday and today i watched another movie on my tilt. I realized that the movie lags a bit and quality isn't that good. The movies are dvdrips, however when playing you can see a lot of blurry squares at times. Also the sound is horrible. The sound about half a second later after the character actually mouths what is being said. So i can i fix these two problems? I am using TCPMP so any help with the settings on how to solve the issues would be great. Thanks
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I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
Farsquidge said:
I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
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Amen, If you re encode movies correctly they play just fine on a tilt. I watch mine all the time even with BT headphones on which stress the cpu and the tilt even more. I change the audio sync to -0.500 for the headphones and -0.250 for regular viewing in coreplayer and the audio and video is perfectly in sync. I tryed the new version of coreplayer and the quality is superb. I quess thats why I have a dvd player also. I really dont need to watch a 4 gig dvd file on my tilt when a few minutes encoding it properly works just fine to throw it on my 6 gig sd card at a puny 250 meg file then. I have no skips, artifacts, or crappy picture. Most people are amazed when they see it playing on my tilts screen. Its a ppc phone. If I want a cinematic experince, I fire up my HD dlp projector and watch it on the 12 foot screen at home.
Me too . I'm watching live free or die hard now. Have seen about 3 movies on my Tilt and s9 headphones and it's great! PM me if you want the link for the movie(s).
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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Wow, must have dug deep to find this old thread!!
lol, that's what i realized to. I saw transformers like a couple months back! Now watching other movies.
Re-encoding and audio syncing covered in this thread
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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Although not addressed to me, you ought to convert a dvd that you already have, or rip if off a website first. In order to convert a dvd movie, you do need conversion software. There are literally numerous recommended software to enable you to do this.
Although this one is not perfect, I use a software called 'super' on my laptop. It is freeware by the way and probably is not as top notch as paid for products. I've also never converted a full movie length video as well, just clips. But I assume it would work.
Once its converted, copy the converted movie to your memory card (if you have one) or your device. (The former is more ideal however)
I think it has also been inferred that you don't have to have conversion software to play a dvd movie on your device, but it will consume alot of your memory if you put a 700MB movie on your device
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
Audio said:
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
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Audio..I have never tried Ashampoo, you have me intriged now as I usually two a two step process.
Cheers.
Audio,
How is the video playback when you shrink your movie down to 170MB - 300MB? Do you get lags and a lip sync effect?
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
Audio said:
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
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Thanks for this Audio! I'm about to try it now
One more question, do you use Ashampoo Movie and Shrink or Kingdia Video Converter? On this thread you mentioned Ashampoo, and on the other thread you mentioned Kingdia Video Converter
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I should have your read your first post in the other thread properly. Yes, I see why you use both Ashampoo and Kingdia. I'll try it. May take me a while though
I don't normally have my video clips at AVI format. I normally have it a 3GP or MPG. Why AVI?
"I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread"
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I was wondering if to sync your audio at -200, do you have to go to 'Settings' and then 'buffering' and then change the figure in 'preload for audio' to '-200 kb'
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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I'll be putting those values in now. Thanks again. But I still would have thought converting a movie to '3GP' would save alot more space, but the quality of the video would probably be poorer. I've noticed this when using the programme 'Super' to convert video clips to 3GP in comparison to converting the very same video clips to MPG. I assume that AVI and MPG file sizes can't be too different...
And I just stumbled upon this in your other thread:
Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
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I'll try keeping the video type to its original if TCPMP will play it anyway. Plus, the quality of the video always detoriate whenever you encode.
A random question- In your sig, I notice you are endorsing 'mini opera'. I was wondering which out of 'mini opera' or 'mobile opera' is the better for a kaiser
For web browser's, you're probably better off reading this thread. The reason I use Opera Mini, is because I enjoy the zoom ability that you get. I.E when you open a webpage, you see all the webpage, then you can just press on the bit you want to zoom into. But the minute Opera Mobile 9 comes out, I'll be getting it . That Skyfire that's made an appearance also seems to look VERY interesting, probably going to be a good competitor for Opera Mobile 9, as is Microsoft's Deepfish browser. It's all very exciting.... lol.
Can anyone recommend what settings i should have my TCPMP player on my Tilt for playing video. when i go to youtube, it lags quite i bit, so i just figured it was one of those things i have to deal with when using a pda and going to a site like youtube. but i put a video file on my storage card and played it and it lags quite a bit, probably even worst than playing something on youtube, i went to the recommend settings for tcpmp but that doesn't seem to work for a video i play directly off my storage card, any ideas on who to get less lag, i'm also using version .81RC1. Thanks
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I use "Raw FramePuffer" or "GDI" under OPTIONS - VIDEO.
Just not "DirectDraw" - It looked really bad with that...
I stream Divx/Xvid files over WLAN and from microSD and it's OK.
I've tried those options, but i still get the lag, it plays a little better in wmp, but still laggy, could it be something w/the video i put on my card, i didn't convert it to anything, mainly because i dont know how, i just put the card in my usb adapter and plugged it into my computer and copied the file to the card. Or could it be something i need to change under settings? because like i mentioned i do get the lag while playing youtube.
anyone else have any ideas on how to get tcpmp to play video's w/o much lag? i'm getting quite a bit on files i put on my storage card, it's basically unwatchable.
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anyone else have any ideas on how to get tcpmp to play video's w/o much lag? i'm getting quite a bit on files i put on my storage card, it's basically unwatchable.
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Had the same problem. Until I resized/re-encoded the videos with eRightSoft SUPER video converter (Free). The key is to using the "DIVX / AVI Pocket PC" as the output format.
If this doesnt work then I would try a different SD Card.
I put a 4000kb buffer in TCPMP to get normal "xvid" TV episodes working. It's a little choppy, but certainly usable. I didn't notice battery draining more than normal, and for not having to spend hours reencoding video, the occasional choppiness is okay.
Yes, the best way is to recode the video files. I don't use no fancy app for this, just windows movie maker has that option to scale it to pocket pc or any format you like. Works quit well.
Link to SUPER video converter
This a link to the free software I use SUPER. I also included a screenshot with the settings that work for me. Enjoy
http://rapidshare.com/files/74633129/Super_2007_build23_and_settings.zip.html
I found these settings on another forum and apparently they help, but I still can not play and mp4 file I encoded for the iPhone. I haven't tried other encodings, but I have seen some poeple (in addition to the OPs comment below) say DivX is one of the better types for the Tilt.
Windows Mobile Core Player Settings
I experienced the same thing on mine. I'm using TCPMP and I've found that the following steps help relieve some of the problems.
1. Options/Video:
Change from DirectDraw to Raw FrameBuffer
Uncheck "Dither" (whatever that is)
2. Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: set to Auto
3. Options/Settings/Advanced
Check "Slow Video Memory"
4. Options/Settings/Buffering
Change "Preload at Underrun" to 85%
Note: I'm using PocketDIVxEncoder to convert everything to AVI files with the right audio/video size and format and I've tweaked the rom quite a bit. The most important setting change I've found to improve response of programs/video came from the vx6700 forums:
H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/GDI/GLYPHCACHE/limit
change setting to either 32758 or 65536
I've tried both, and I'm using 32758 because it's a smaller memory footprint, but 65536 appears slightly faster.
dither 'smooths' out the colour gradients - so you dont see the nasty blockiness you get from high compression so much - also helps make the 16bit depth look a bit better
What about streaming video from your computer and re-encoding it on the stream server? Windows Media Server, VLC, and probably other apps can do this. I think Orb does this. Can anyone offer a comparison between TCPMPing divxs over the network and Orb-ing the same file?
I have tried ORB at home and it seems to work OK, but in order to really use it, you need to have a good network connection. So you are adding in yet another variable (and one which is almost completely unpredictable) to affect playback. Supposedly, ORB or Sling or whatever stream method you are using will detect your bandwidth and push you the best rate for your connection, but no connection means no playback. As an example, I couldn't get MobiTV to work over edge at all, which is promoted by AT&T as the way to watch TV on your phone. Right...
I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?
I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0
Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0
I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
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I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.
On my Kaiser I took some movies. They were in .MP4 format. I copied the files to my PC and when trying to play them on the PC (by double-clicking on the file in the windows explorer) - I get this error message in a dialog box:
Title: Error
Text: Error -2041: an invalid sample description was found in the movie (VIDEO_011.MP4)
When I try to open the file in the latest updated version of Windows Media Player 11, I get an error message saying it cannot play this sort of file. I do have MP4 codecs on my PC as well.
Lastly, when I copy the files back onto my PPC and then open the camera application, I am still able to open and play the files with no problem on the Kaiser.... so there is nothing wrong with the files... so what the heck?!?! HALP!
try quicktime it does a good job with mp4 files
people been reporting mixed results getting mp4 codecs to play
in other players sometimes there were no audio somethings it dident work
at all
Perhaps you could try googling 'K Lite Media pack'. This is highly recommended by many, and it works great for me. It plays so many different file types, such as flv files (say if you downloaded a youtube video and wanted to play it straight away) and I'm pretty certain, MP4 files too. The player you play videos with is called 'Media Player Classic'.
yes, get k lite mega codec pack
Tilt MP4 Videos unviewable on PC - Vista Ultimate Upgrade results in...
I even upgraded to Windows Vista (via download) to try to get this to work. I figured waiting long enough after it first comes out (it's been one YEAR), they would have ironed out all the bugs. Also figured since Vista SP1 was about to come out I could stumble along with whatever my issues were until it was released in case I still had problems...
I am more gutsy than most to do things like this with my PC because I automated a backup of only files that have changed, the first time I turn on my PC each day, to an external drive which I can just grab and run with in case my home ever catches on fire, etc. Runs in the background and only takes about 10 minutes, that has saved my butt more than once...
I specified only upgrade rather than a fresh install, so none of my programs or data would be lost:
1. All my data was lost anyway !!!!! Thank goodness for the backups!
2. All my browser favorites were blown away !!!! Thank goodness for the backups!
3. Almost everything also worked except for several drivers that I had to go to the vendor's website to download an upgrade. Good thing I am not using any hardware from vendors that have gone out of business. (I had to replace an old leading-edge technology $2,000 flat panel monitor because of that once.)
4. Tilt MP4 Videos unviewable on PC !?!!? AARRRGGGGGGGGHHGGHGHGGGHHHHH!
I'll try the "K Lite Mega Codec Pac" but have a couple of questions in the next post -
- Kruse
K Lite Mega Codec Pac
What "K Lite Mega Codec Pac" do to your PC? Is it removeable? Does it overwrite other codecs you might have? Does it come with a program for managing your codec settings and what is in use vs. not in use, or what?
Let me know, I really want to try it but I will wait for your response/s...
i would advise against using k-lite codec pack, if you really want a good codec pack,try cccp.
however, if all you wanna do is just watch the mp4 files, i suggest that you just use vlc, linky
Why is cccp better?
Why is cccp better, and how do I removed the codecs which I prefer not to use?
well, cccp is technically not a codec pack......its a filter pack, and has quite a few endorsements, its definitely the way to go if u need to play multiple video formats. the problem with most codec packs is there's high chances of damaging ur system if you dont know what you are installing. you may end up having multiple codecs for one video format. most ppl would tell you to avoid using any codec pack because the problems it would cause, i used to think the same, until i discovered cccp, seriously excellent when it comes to mkv playback.
however, like i said, if you're worried so much about codecs being installed on your system, just go ahead and use vlc, its a standalone player with its own decoders, doesnt install any codecs to your system watsoever.
Hi all,
Just would like to know if anyone has had the time and the patience to figure out which program to use to rip a Dvd to what ever format is required to watch on the Diamond.
Anyone know what format the files should be???
I have tried CloneDVD Mobile & ImToo Dvd Ripper. However every time I've tried after transfer It can't be read.
I've tried - Mp4 - MPEG-4 multiple types, to Xvid even Iphone & Blackberry MPEG-4 formats.
I had an AVI music video file that I tried sync'ing through WMP just to test it and it worked however quality was absolutely shocking. a 60 mg H Def good looking video on a 17" WSGA screen get transfered and come out looking like a crappy pixelated washed out 16 colour type thing on a 2.8" vga screen.
Anyway
If anybody has sus'd this issue out and has some answers. It would be appreciated
Cheers all and everybody that will or has ever given any help to anyone on this site or not.
"PAY IT FORWARD MF's"
A godd all round freeware program is Super. The User Interface isn't great but you can convert to pretty much any format and also change the fps, audio quality, pic size etc. The link is below
http://www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html
You have to go through 2 pages of crap and on the 3rd page is the download link. Tried to put up link for final page, but it just re-directs you!!
Hope this helps
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
I use this to convert avis, choose a suitable resolution then lower the audio and video quality settings for smoother playback
Thanks for the quick response Nindy & Timbermill.
I will check them out and holla out the findings.
Timbermill, I maybe wrong but as far as I was aware DivX encoded files cannot be played on the Diamond. Only MPEG4 encoded files
However, can ask you guys what format and settings are you transfering your files to for the diamond?
Cheers again
Here's another nice (and free) tool:
http://mobidvd.xulsoft.org/
I use TCPMP to view my video files, it's great for divx