Problem with screen turning off during call... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Two gigantic annoyances of my ATT Tilt (with HTC ROM on it) that I simply can't stand anymore.
1.) When I am in a phone call the screen turns off so if I need to use the keypad I have to press a button to see the screen
2.) When I am in a phone call the screen does not show the keypad I usually have to turn on the screen, click the KEYPAD button before I actually get to enter numbers
This is all Fing annoying because I have to go through it everytime I check my voicemail...
I tried using the search but didn't come up with anything...
Also, what do you all use for registry editing on your Kaiser? I still haven't changed that registry entry to get the WM6 keypad on (vs the HTC which was better than the TERRIBLE ATT one)...
Thanks

Kaiser Tweak, a sticky on top of this sub-forum. First issue adressed is just that, Kaiser going to bed mid-call
Seriously, a brilliant tool. Give it a test ride.

PHM Registry is a nice freeware tool for the Kaiser. Alternatively CeRegEditor will allow you to change the registry via activesync on your pc.

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Problems encountered so far...

I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
Hi,
I haven't had the problems you have, not even heat yet as has been discussed. Perhaps it's because I am not taxing the unit yet.
However, I have not been able to synch my PC to the Kaiser to yet. Synching pictures, music, TV is not an issue because Windows Media Player is working. It's the Contacts, Notes, Tasks that I cannot synch.
When I open the Windows Mobile Device Center the Connection Settings window opens up with the Allow USB & Bluetooth Connections radio buttons. When I hit OK with both Radio buttons selected (USB & Bluetooth), that's it, the window closes and there's no Windows Mobile Device Center that opens up. Task Manager shows no open Windows Mobile Device Center application but does show a Windows Mobile Device Center process, wmdcBase.exe.
What am I missing here? Please help, 4 days & I still do not have my Contacts in this phone.
This is a duplicate post from lower down.
Cheers,
Phil
Pooper said:
I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
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1) this happens but only with the D-Pad sometimes. This also happend on the TyTN
2)haven't had that problem
3)Screen goes dim but if I touch the screen it comes back on
4) haven't had that problem
Pooper said:
I've had my Kaiser a few days now, here's a few problems that i've had... anyone had anything similar?
- Windows Live Today addon stops working... can't scroll left or right
- HTC plugin goes fuzzy... can go into programs/settings, but nothing actually loads up when clicking on it
- After using the phone, the screen goes dim... so i have to manually reset the brightness
- D-pad stops working after using the phone (can't scroll through TXTs/Emails etc)
In most cases i have to reboot to fix :S
I was hoping WM6 would be a lot stabler... but so far it doesn't seem all that great :S
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Screen goes dim and the start menu does not work. This is because of the password pin set on your phone. If you deactivate it, it should be fine. It's definitely a bug on the Kaiser. There are registry hacks for this, but I have no idea how to get around it.
regarding the screen dimming, I assume this is with the HTC ROM.
My phone has been fine with the latest two AT&T ROMs (the first ROM had this prob, the screen would dim after 10 seconds). You can temporarily fix the problem by resetting the Backlight timeout Settings.. Backlight... Battery Power tab) to something like 1 minute. It will keep getting reset every once in a while though... You can also turn off the backlight timeout completely (unchecking the box), which seems to work longer.
BTW it seems to be a problem with the HTC Home plugin. When I installed the original AT&T ROM but didn't install the HTC Home today plugin, the problem did not happen.
I have seen the D-Pad problem in Outlook only - that is, hang up a call, then d-pad doesn't work to navigate thru email. Once email is open the D-Pad works... Solution is to kill (click x button) Outlook.
M
Screendim
Screen goes dim and the start menu does not work. This is because of the password pin set on your phone. If you deactivate it, it should be fine. It's definitely a bug on the Kaiser. There are registry hacks for this, but I have no idea how to get around it.
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Same here, screen dims and startmenu does not work. Issue is I can't deactivate pw (corp security pollicy for pushmail client).
Could someone elaborate a bit on the possible reg hack that could fix this?
Thanks...
Hi
I made a small app that helps overcome this issue by making the phone usable again after a phone call.
You can get install instructions from here with a file a few posts down: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=258974&view=findpost&p=841951
Hopefully it will be fixed by HTC soon so it's just a short term work around.
Regards
Phil
Thanks
That works, thank you very much for your effort!
We'll wait for the HTC fix.
mrpotts said:
However, I have not been able to synch my PC to the Kaiser to yet. Synching pictures, music, TV is not an issue because Windows Media Player is working. It's the Contacts, Notes, Tasks that I cannot synch.
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You need Outlook installed to sync those.
Add this - SMS goes bust!
Details are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330176
i had a 3g connection with google maps running in background (gps was accurate within 10 feet) and was playing namco's ms. pac-man on the tytn ii rom when device locked up mid game. Power button would put phone into standby, but it was locked up besides. i had to soft-reset.
Cool, do HTC release updated ROMs via their website?
Also, ive had the home plugin going fuzzy and locking up quite a few times now.... definitley more problems introduced since i enabled the 'lock' feature :S
No call button??
On the dialpad is no call button only videocall button???
Am i blind?........
With my phone the 'ok' button (not on the keyboard) doesn't always respond (well). Either to confirm a adjustment or to minimize/close an screen
I have found a pretty simple workaround for the issue with the screen going dim and the start menu not working after a call.
What appears to be happening is that the device is actually locking the screen yet the keypad to unlock is not displayed. So the start menu and such think they are locked. I found that if i simply power my device off and back on the password screen/unlock screen shows up. Unlock it and you are fine from there.
Not really a fix but it will save you a reboot.
Hmm im getting lots of sync problems with Windows Live :S, also my phone 'says' it's connected to 3G/H but then randomly doesnt send texts :S
Really starting to annoy me now!

Kaiser annoyances

I've been playing with my Kaiser and these are the last remaining bugs that I can't figure out:
1. No Data while using Voice. See thread in this forum for other's complaints.
2. Phone does not wakeup when a email is received. I tried following other's advice by installing Spb time, and enabling "Wakeup Tweak" and this had no effect. Phone plays notification sound, but still is sleep.
3. Phone locks keys and sleeps while talking. On my 8125 with WM5, the phone would turn off the display, but would wake up with any key press while in the call. This is kind of handy in case I want to see another call come in, go to speaker phone, mute, etc. Right now, I need to hit the power button.
4. Menu's in messaging are really annoying. It would be wonderful if there was a way to modify the menu's in messaging. In SMS/MMS the New Menu Item is actually another menu where the first item is "Multimedia message". There are other things I find annoying.
Other than these annoyances, I think the phone is really doing great.
mswanson said:
I've been playing with my Kaiser and these are the last remaining bugs that I can't figure out:
1. No Data while using Voice. See thread in this forum for other's complaints.
You may not have 3g in your area, or your provider requires UMTS which you
can enabled by installing the Kaiser Tweak program.
2. Phone does not wakeup when a email is received. I tried following other's advice by installing Spb time, and enabling "Wakeup Tweak" and this had no effect. Phone plays notification sound, but still is sleep.
I like this effect since it doesn't waste battery. I'm not sure how to fix this one
3. Phone locks keys and sleeps while talking. On my 8125 with WM5, the phone would turn off the display, but would wake up with any key press while in the call. This is kind of handy in case I want to see another call come in, go to speaker phone, mute, etc. Right now, I need to hit the power button.
Turn off fast sleep, use kaiser tweak to disable.
4. Menu's in messaging are really annoying. It would be wonderful if there was a way to modify the menu's in messaging. In SMS/MMS the New Menu Item is actually another menu where the first item is "Multimedia message". There are other things I find annoying.
your on your own
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1. I guess from what others are saying you have to be in the HSPDA area.
2. I guess I never realized it but mine doesn't either, be nice if it were an option but I don't know if it is.
3. These are reg settings, install the reg tweaks sticky above
4. I don't quite understand what you looking for or what is the problem.
Thanks for the reply exstatica.
I have kaiser tweak installed.
For #1, which option is this exactly, I'm not seeing what option you explain.
For #3, I have "Fast Screen Off" = Disabled (Advised)
jallenclark,
If you go into Messaging and then your Outlook E-Mail account, you will notice the Menu has "MMS Options" as the last item in the menu. On 8525, WM6, "Send/Receive" was the last option. It was nice that this was the last item. Why "MMS Option" need to be on the Email account, I have no idea.
If you go into Messaging and then you MMS/SMS account, the Menu Has a New Menu Item, then two sub-items. This isn't out it use to be.
I wish there was a way to modify these items.
I think it is near the top of the tweak program, it is called Fast Sleep.
I see what you mean about the Send/Receive and I agree completely. I am sure it would be possible to switch the order of the buttons but I don't know how to program it. I went from 8125 and it was similar to this the send/recieve was 3 up on the list.
I had 0.3 of KaiserTweak, current version 0.4 has the option you were talking about. Duh moment on my part
The Kaiser has voice and data at the same time as long as you are in a 3g area.
I can stream live TV from my media center pc using webguide4 and as long as the icon shows the "H" symbol for HSDPA then I can make and recieve calls while the video streams. The audio on the video is muted until I hang up the phone but the video is still playing non the less. If I do not have the "H" icon then this will not work.
This is not a problem with the phone it is the way the technology works. Be thankful, this is only with GSM providers. Meaning that this is not even an option with the best service area with Sprint and Verizon.
I get over 100 emails a day in my line of job, if the "feature" you describe existed (wake up on email) the first thing I'd look for is how to turn it off... My Hermes did the same BTW, you hear the sound, but the units remains in standby mode.
mswanson said:
4. Menu's in messaging are really annoying. It would be wonderful if there was a way to modify the menu's in messaging. In SMS/MMS the New Menu Item is actually another menu where the first item is "Multimedia message". There are other things I find annoying.
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Not quite sure what you mean but if you are wanting a send a sms you can always set one of the softkeys to "New SMS" meaning you only need to click one button to compose a sms.
mswanson said:
I've been playing with my Kaiser and these are the last remaining bugs that I can't figure out:
3. Phone locks keys and sleeps while talking. On my 8125 with WM5, the phone would turn off the display, but would wake up with any key press while in the call. This is kind of handy in case I want to see another call come in, go to speaker phone, mute, etc. Right now, I need to hit the power button.
Other than these annoyances, I think the phone is really doing great.
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1 click on the side wheel and it is back when you need it I love this system..
fast sleep makes my tilt (kaiser, 8925, varioIII) respond incorrectly.
fast sleep is a good idea conceptually but while it saves battery power, when i wake up my phone in call or after the call is over, It makes most of the home screen and the soft buttons unresponsive. I can usually fix this by putting it to sleep and waking it up one more time. Sometimes when this happens the backlight comes on only very dim. I dont see a setting for the fast sleep while in a call. Here are some steps i have tried to resolve this issue.
tried to remove all items from home screen
chose to not show owner info or notes when turning on device.
Changed power settings to not turn off device.
changed backlight to always stay on for testing.
told the device to not lock after no usage.
problem existed before i unlocked the device.
Any Ideas?
to answer some questions i can see headed my way here is the info on my kaiser.
provider ATT TILT (unlocked)
rom version: 1.57.502.2
radio version 1.27.12.11
protocol version 22.45.88.07H
4gb sandisk microsd HC
installed apps:
TomTom Navigator 6 with US Maps
C. Ghisler & Co. Total Commander
Caywen Kevtris 2
3dtracking free tracking
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
MochaVNC
PocketCM Keyboard 0.10
Ateksoft Webcamera plus
tcpmp the core pocket media player
geekstoolbox.com siriusWM5
googlemaps
cingular pre_midlets
OZ communications OZ IM
peekpocket
BTAudioToggle
deathdrive
WM5 windows media codecs for WM6
I love my phone. Touchflo is working but tricky at times. I cant wait till the cube becomes solid. I havent tried any other roms yet.
some of the cabs i am using
attached are the exact cabs i used to install some of the apps.
I'm still annoyed that unlocking the phone (as in, unlock when it comes out of suspend with a pin, not sim unlocking) requires you to hit UNLOCK when you type in the pin, instead of the old way where the phone unlocks when you hit the last digit.
I'd still love some way to change it back.
Kaisertweak Works!!!
kaisertweak rocks. It disabled fastsleep which makes my problem not happen. I attached it.
2 issues
Is it just me or is the Tytn II's speaker behaves differently to the original Tytn and D810?
1. Go to the phone keypad, try dial a string of number quickly, the speaker will start to pop as it can not play the key sound fast enough.. This has never been a problem with my 838 Pro or D810.
2. Make the Tytn II to play a sound, after it finishes listen carefully for a noise that appears to be the speaker turning off, it seems like after a sound is played the speaker's power is continuously on for a few seconds before switching off. Again this is different and unnoticeable on the 838 Pro or D810.
happens to me too.
123thisisme said:
Is it just me or is the Tytn II's speaker behaves differently to the original Tytn and D810?
1. Go to the phone keypad, try dial a string of number quickly, the speaker will start to pop as it can not play the key sound fast enough.. This has never been a problem with my 838 Pro or D810.
2. Make the Tytn II to play a sound, after it finishes listen carefully for a noise that appears to be the speaker turning off, it seems like after a sound is played the speaker's power is continuously on for a few seconds before switching off. Again this is different and unnoticeable on the 838 Pro or D810.
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I get the popping. It sounds like its making the speaker clip. I didnt get it until i changed to a cooked rom. IMHO, all cooked roms have bugs....but i would gladly settle for all of the worst bugs in the cooked roms over using the att tilt rom which was loaded with bloatware, fastsleep, proxy, crappy camera, crappy softkeyboard, etc.. etc.. etc... I really dont think its the speaker. I think its the rom. Backup and try a different one if you feel like testing.
Thanks,
-J

Ear presses during calls...!

Strange one this but I am left handed (eared) and after making a call I always find that my ear has opened lots of programs whilst talking. Is there a way to lock the display while taking a call or some other solution?
Also after uninstalling PocketInformant I now find my Calender softkey key is unmapped. I have seen references that I just need to remap it using "Advance Config" but I can't find that either.
Can someone help a halfwit..!
Thanks, Steve.
shapcott said:
Strange one this but I am left handed (eared) and after making a call I always find that my ear has opened lots of programs whilst talking. Is there a way to lock the display while taking a call or some other solution?
Also after uninstalling PocketInformant I now find my Calender softkey key is unmapped. I have seen references that I just need to remap it using "Advance Config" but I can't find that either.
Can someone help a halfwit..!
Thanks, Steve.
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The Advanced Config is here:http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
hey, I have the same problem with programs opening up with my ear. the only solution I found is to turn ur screen off while on a call (press power button) or don't press ur ear as hard to the phone
omar
thats what i did. im still seeking a software which can automaticly lock the touch screen while on the call.
The easiest way is to just push the power button on the right side of your device while you're talking, as sometimes you might want to hit the speaker phone button or use the keypad. If you use this method of pushing the power button, all you need to do is hit it again and your screen is active.
PhoneAlarm will automatically blank the screen for you when a call is connected.
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html
i might be wrong but when i tested S2U2 a while ago i recall seeing something about an option to "blank screen" during calls... may be worth a try, its free and available here at xda =)
cheers
//jonte
netpixie said:
thats what i did. im still seeking a software which can automaticly lock the touch screen while on the call.
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As in post # 6 I also recommend PhoneAlarm. Does the job really nicely for me.
Thanks for all your fast answers..!
I knew all you smart guys would know what to do...
Somehow I am able to manage to switch of my phone ...
With my ear I am entering the connection manager and than I disable the phone or enter flight mode.
I am coming from a SE P990 and here the screen is automaticaly locked during a call.
It would make defenitly sense to block the input from the touch panel during a call, but keeping the display on for basic information. On the other side I would like to have also access if I want to look for a contact information or agenda setting during a call.
Claus
There are alternative solutions like PalmarySoft Phone ScreenLock which explicitely locks the touch screen without turning it off during call.
The best is that this app. does nothing else ... no today plugins ... nothing in excess.
Simple ... yet usefull.
Does it have the functionality to unlock while you're on the call?
Say you want to look something up while on the phone....
yes it does.

Any way to lock screen phone buttons?

Is there a way to lock onscreen phone buttons?
Everytime someone calls, and diamond is in my pocket I either accept or reject call when trying to get it out of pocket.
So can I dectivate touch screen during incoming call?
Is there any tweak for this?
Greets guys
dont own a diamond but a quickfix...get bigger jeans.
No way... too big balls will bounce
resolved!!!
the fastest way to solve your problem is to install s2u2 (slide to unlock) newest version is 1.05 what i know...
so with the right settings when incoming call, you'll need to slide then answer/reject call or setup slide to answer or other.
its great i LOVE IT..
I just installed it... then uninstalled it 5 mins later because it looks GHASTLY!!
To lock the touch screen buttons you simply hold down the End Call button for a few seconds. Or is it the physical buttons that you're trying to lock?
You didn't get it
I want touch screen buttons to be locked DURING incoming call to be sure i wont press them when trying to put it out of pocket.
Even if diamond is locked, when phonecall screen appears, those buttons are ACTIVE and that is baaaaad
and S2U2.... doesn't work!!!
When incoming call, original diamond call screen appears and buttons are ACTIVE - su2u DOES NOT lock device during the call although there's option called 'slide to answer'
lookass said:
You didn't get it
I want touch screen buttons to be locked DURING incoming call to be sure i wont press them when trying to put it out of pocket.
Even if diamond is locked, when phonecall screen appears, those buttons are ACTIVE and that is baaaaad
and S2U2.... doesn't work!!!
When incoming call, original diamond call screen appears and buttons are ACTIVE - su2u DOES NOT lock device during the call although there's option called 'slide to answer'
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You are right: I do not get you.
At least I do not see your point. You want to have the phone locked during incoming calls? - how senseless is that. Especially in that moment I want to have it unlocked to be able to accept it. That is the way all my phones worked.
What do you do, if you get a call and have a your cell in the pocket? I never encountered such problems...
Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz !!!
In Diamond one can answer a call in two ways:
1. press onscreen button
2. press hardware button
Onscreen button can be pressed accidentaly while taking out of pocket, pouch or whatever.
So: All i want is to have onscreen buttons INACTIVE while hardware buttons ACTIVE so I can answer call ONLY by pressing answer HARDWARE button.
Tapping onscreen button will do NO ACTION.
Hope now everything is clear, cause my english isn't very good
^^and you made a joke when i offered my quick fix =P
I have the same problem that by the time I get the case out of the case i find that I accidently answered or hung up because I accidentaly touched the screen,I tried slide to answer but it is not working properly on the Diamond
This would be helpful, I have the same problem sometimes.
I'll look for a registry setting.
s2u2 not working?????
if its bad, ugly, or something, put an self image as backgruond, maybee that would cheer u up, im using version 1.00 that dosent got the slide to answer working good(beta), so i turned it of, then it worked great and i can still use hardware buttuns to answer, and if u dont like the apperence just remove background an d remove clock, all thats left is a black screen and the slider...
This thing with enabled screen answer/ignore buttons pisses me off too... May be we can install a new dialler without screen buttons?
Really no one cares?
nikitich said:
Really no one cares?
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i don't think it's about anyone caring. i think it's about the diamond being a new device and no one having the tricks/tips/tweaks yet. patience
I understand that. But if nobody care about an issue no one will look for the solution. I would install another dialer but i do not know how to uninstall the existing one.
jehlinger said:
This would be helpful, I have the same problem sometimes.
I'll look for a registry setting.
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Be great if you (or anyone else?) could find a hack for this - I have the same problem when taking the phone out of the case. It would solve my (our) problem if only the hardware buttons could answer/reject an incoming call.
Regards,
Gary.
Since nobody answered this thread anymore... Did someone find out? Or did you give up?
I need this badly, stupid on screen buttons always go off
I had the same problem but after i did this I had no problem anymore.
The answer button in default phone skin(WM6) is much smaller so the risk of accidentally reject or answer the call is not so high.

Erm... Device Lock?? Can anybody help on this

I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
try holding the end call button for a few seconds
Thanks. Am guessing that was in the manual but must have missed it in skim reading it.
not sure mate i don't read the manuals either i just asked the same question on the TD1 haha
I was also very disappointed by missing LOCK option - thanks, maybe next time, i could at least download that manual from HTC
db_darryl said:
I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
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TouchLockPro works on the Diamond2, it unlocks by light sensor and taking stylus out.
you can set long press of the end call button to lock screen "settings/personal/buttons/end key tab.
Anyway to set the TD2 to switch on by pressing any of the 4 bottons? Now mine is only able to be switched on by pressing the on/off button.
This lock the device automatical everytime when the backlight goes off.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight
AutoDeviceLockEnable from 0 to 1
After change no softreset is needed.
No way to activate the screen with the call/start/arrow/end call button?
you can use smart lock, it is free and very good.
How does one change the lock time?
I've set it but can't now access the time setting - I've read the manual and still no clue.
Tony

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