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Step-by-Step :All sounds to a Bluetooth Headset ?

Hi folks!
Is there some kind of step by step manual how to get to a working solution for the well known BlueAngel Problem with it's headset connections?
I found a thread talking about some registry tweaks, but that only enables the menu option to send the sounds to the headset, but finally doesn't produce any sounds...
What I want to have is the instructions, given by the Navigon Mobile Navigator 5 beeing transferred to a bluetooth device (a parrot free speach device or a logitech headset).
I am already running ROM 1.4 and tried all various BT versions, but nothing worked..
Thanks for your help,
Balu

err.. I am looking for using bluetooth headset to listen mp3 as well, any help and suggestions? :wink:

im trying to figure out how to do that aswell, (listen to media player using bluetooth on my SVP m2000)

me too is there any idea pls

same

You can listen mp3s if your headset supports advanced audio distribution profile and you have PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab installed. But if your "advanced" headset does not support old profiles - you would not be able to use it to listen phone calls.
You CANNOT listen MP3s on normal headsets that support headset and hansdfree profiles. To use these headsets you have to sell PDA2K and buy PDA2.

mamaich said:
You can listen mp3s if your headset supports advanced audio distribution profile and you have PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab installed. But if your "advanced" headset does not support old profiles - you would not be able to use it to listen phone calls.
You CANNOT listen MP3s on normal headsets that support headset and hansdfree profiles. To use these headsets you have to sell PDA2K and buy PDA2.
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Can you please provide the list of BT headsets (with make / model numbers) that supports this "advanced audio distribution profile"

ht820 does the job!
I have Motorola HT820 on Orange M2000.
The HT820 supports Hands-Free and High Quality Audio profiles and you can playback audio in stereo via the headphones.
I upgraded the BT stack to 3900 and radio to 1.13 and added the extra profiles (instructions are in the Wiki), and it appears to work as both .
When the phone rings, WMP pauses and the left headset button answers the phone. Once you finish the call and hang up, WMP starts playback again.
The only problem that I still have is with intermittent dropout of the High Quality Audio. Anyone got any clues on curing this?
Got mine for around £60 UK sterling.

Is this an hardware limitation? Is this a ROM limitation? BT stack problem?
GSM phone preempting BT handfree?
If not HW, can we expect an upcoming solution to this?
Or, the only "hard" workaround is to plug a BT adapter (like Jabra A210) to redirect mike/spkr, and to desactivate BA BT.
Christmas tree, like.

Re: ht820 does the job!
woodrjh said:
I have Motorola HT820 on Orange M2000.
The HT820 supports Hands-Free and High Quality Audio profiles and you can playback audio in stereo via the headphones.
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Thanks for the Info.... does the HT850 also supports MP3 playback with BT???????????

have a look at these (even though cant solve the prob on BA)
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
and this
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=496339

you might wanna have a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=144425#144425

Registry
Hi again.
So, we didn't really find a solution yet?
I once read something about a little change to the registry, so that a second profile for the normal BT Headset appears.
I searched but I can't find it again.
does anyone know which post I mean?
If so, can you give me a link to that, because I believe that is the right way to solve the problem...

the key is if your source (pda or notebook) is running BT audio gateway. centrino notebooks supports audio gateway. I have a Jabra BT800 and listens to MP3s played from an HP DV1000 notebook but cannot have it working through my XDA II mini (the latter does not support BT audio gateway)
you might find this helpful => http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...html/wce50conaudiogatewayregistrysettings.asp

BT sound quality (voice) on Kaiser

Anyone else the same experience? Contrary to almost every other WM device I have used in the past, the voice sound quality both on BT headsets and on parrot carkits is way below par. It sounds thin and metallic.
When using the speaker on the device itself (held up to your ear) the quality is excellent, so to me there is a major flaw in the the BT implementation on the Kaiser. The x7500 sounds way better, so it's not the OS itself.

Finally, someone else with good hearing
I have exactly the same issue. Even it's tolerable but is some situations it's very hard to hear the other party. Doesn't matter what headset I am using - Nokia BH 900, Jabra JX10 2 or Jawbone - they all sound thin. I really hope that there is something in registry that can be changed to resolve this. Or maybe a different DLL. In fact, this is the only complain that I have about Kaiser. I've tried this suggestions but none of them worked unfortunately.
Increase Audiogateway capability:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway/Capability
(Dword:69)(Default is 37)
[I'm assuming this is a bitrate setting, but not sure how this differs from those above]
4-Change the Bluetooth channel from the default:
HKLM\Softare\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device
From there open the subfolders and find those labeled channel. The DWORD key value is the channel number. Change the number to something other than the default.
[i've only tested up to channel 7 because I'm not sure how many channels there are. This seems to have improved issues with interference and intermittent drops, but these issues seem to have more to do with where the device is in relation to the headphones than anything else. You'll have to experiment to see what works best with your gear and environment.]
5-Increase the Bluetooth microphone sensitivity:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Mic Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
6-Increase Bluetooth earpiece volume:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Spk Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
[again experiment to see what works best with your headset and environment]
Taken from http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7715

Ouch. Just came out of an escalation meeting for which I was forced to use the TyTN II for almost an hour over my Sony Ericsson HBH pv705 headset, and I have to rephrase my first post.
The audio quality is leaves not just a bit to be desired, it is just blatantly bad!
That, I feel, is the only *real* letdown of the TyTN II

Have exactly the same issue here. Was using it today in the car using the Mercedes bluetooth kit, and the sound was very thin and tinny. On my Hermes the sound was full and fine.

It's like listening to one of those shortwave type radios

OK. Now we have to determine is that :
Hardware issue
or
Software issue.
I've briefly used one of the preproduction units back in June and as far as I remember BT was OK. But I can't be sure 100%.
Anyone still using pre-pro units? Please, check how BT headset sounds like.
I really, really hope that this is software issue. Otherwise I am afraid that I am not going be able to keep the unit .

Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.

jcrompton said:
Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
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It's probably due the fact that car kit has already plenty of bass and stereo headset is using a2dp. My stereo BT headset sounds good as well.
Handset itself sounds good, wired handset sounds good. Again, I really hope that there is a way to change something in software that will fix this problem. i guess, we have to wait until device is in more hands and some hackers will find the way

In that case, my second addition to the mix to counter yours. Aside from my SE PV705 I also have a Parrot carkit (3200 LS-Color) and I have the same poor audio quality over bluetooth ...

bt
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.

dhopeton said:
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
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Just damn! Flagship HTC device... It's better be software fixable.

Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R

rakh1 said:
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R
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We are not talking about stereo A2DP quality. Again, stereo BT sounds very good to me as well.

nono - this is simlpy the voice call quality through these headphones - not using the A2DPprotocol - just headset protocol.
R

I use the Sony MEX-5000BT headunit in my car in handsfree mode. I've used it with both the Kaiser & Wizard, and I can't tell any difference in sound quality between the two phones in handsfree mode.
A2DP is a different story -- the Kaiser is much better.

I'm having the same BT issues with my phone. Voice quality on my original TyTN was great through BT. But with the TyTN II, it is sub par.

OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.

ID64 said:
OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
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I have the same as above.

Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.

RonenB said:
Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
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What type of device you have been using previously?
When you switch from handset to BT headset on the fly do you hear difference in voice quality? Doesn't seems like BT headset doesn't have the same frequency range as a handset?

Can't get stereo bluetooth on Kaiser

My apologies in advance, for not being too bright, I come from a gene puddle, rather then the grander pool
I have a TytnII or MDA Vario 3 as it's called on the 3 network. I've just bought an sony ericson bluetooth stereo headphones model HBH-DS220. They pair up fine, but I only get quiet mono, in one ear piece. I found a registry tweak, but one of the listed values wasn't there and removing the other (bitpool?), makes no difference at all.
I saw another post talking about a cab being needed, but couldn't decide if that applied to this phone!
Can somebody point me to a link to fix this, thanks.
Please treat this as national sponser an idiot week and do this half-wit a favour!
Thanks in advance
Jim

Do you get stereo with your wired headset If so maybe your bluetooth headset is defective?
Surur

Have you tried the Jetware bluetooth extension, worked great on my HBH-DS980 and it added extra features to the headset

when it was paired what profiles did u see? i assume u saw wireless stereo and not just hands free. If you see wireless stereo just make sure its checked and then try the jetware solution

I am using two different models with BT Stereo and did not have a problem with connecting either. Make sure you have the "Wrieless Stereo" service shown and checked under the BT Connection Settings.

Nope, still no good!
Checked the setting and do have wireless stereo checked and have downloaded and installed jetware, rebooted the device and still get mono in one earpiece and it's quiet.
ANy other ideas?
Could somebody send me what is in their AD2P registry settings? I have a nasty feeling that it's somethig T-Mobile have messed up with the new phone!
Thanks for the rapis responces though. It's always nice to stumble on a forum with decent people in, there are so many out there that aren't as friendly...

I have just discoverd the same issue with my Plantronics bluetooth Stero Headset i.e. sound only in one earpiece. This occurs when using "Audible Player" (I don't know what happens with other audio programs). But TomTom Navigator gives me crystal clear Stereo output!! confusing eh?

BitPool 64
MaxSupportedBitPool 30
UseJointStereo 1
thats all i have in mine

HELP! Need a way to route ALL audio to headset thru MS Bluetooth

Hey people. Having a bit of a problem here. I've got a single ear bluetooth headset that i'm trying to route audio to.
Telephone calls work fine but I need the ability to route notification / confirmation sounds and raw music streams (basically all audio) to the headset.
I've tried a few solutions (VJvolubilis, bluemusic-etc) but every time I enable the audio gateway, I just get a hissing sound that plays over the headset, while all other sound is routed thru my hima.
I was thinking about configging the headset in the registry to support wireless stereo but wouldn't have a clue what settings to enter.
Could someone provide some advice (or a regkey for wireless stereo) on how I could go about routing all standard audio?
Oh BTW, i've tried the broadcomm stack for hima. Apparently the wavedev.dll file included doesn't know how to either recognise the widcomm stack, or work with it to route audio.

Can someone with a wireless stereo headset post a reg backup of their HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth directory?
Also anyone with working streaming standard audio to a single ear BT headset, please post both your audioGW.dll & wavedev.dll from \Windows.

I would think that your BT headset does not support the A2DP proflie and therefore cannot be used to stream BT audio.
My stereo BT headphone works just fine using the MS BT stack since WM 5.0 AKU 2.X
Sascha

SaBo, the headset is NOT a stereo BT headset. It's a single-ear handsfree headset (the apple bluetooth headset to be precise).
I know it WILL work with all routed audio because i've synced it with a friend's HP PDA that had a native BT stack and all audio (including mp3s and notifications) played thru the headset.
I'm not trying to enable A2DP, i'm trying to force the phone to route all audio thru the mono earphone of the headset.
Anyone else have any ideas?

As I know, it's impossible in himalaya because of technical reasons.

NxJay said:
I'm not trying to enable A2DP, i'm trying to force the phone to route all audio thru the mono earphone of the headset.
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Afaik it's not possible on Himalaya.
You will need an A2DP Headset and it will work.
Sascha

I know for sure it can be done. I had other issue, but that was the point.
you have to change some registrity entry, a don't remeber which, as soon as i find it i'll post it for you.
Here is a hack: try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=257415
http://foro.todopocketpc.com/showthread.php?t=128642

Andur, no luck on those 2 hacks.
Tried em both. Nothing happened.
The second hack, i enabled BTAudioOn.exe. All that happened was a hissing sound (kinda like background noise/static) started to play outta the headset, while all other sound kept playing outta my Hima.
Any other ideas? Or even better, any ways to fix the widcomm stack so i can use that to route audio? This MS stack is so useless.

Bad quality sound on Bluetooth Music streaming

I always had my HTC Tilt 2 playing music in my car through bluetooth. Now with my new HD7 I noticed the sound quality is very bad. It sounds like its streams at a low bit rate so all the high frequencies create crackling distorted. Overall sound doesn't have any richness to it. I use the BlackBerry Remote Stereo Bluetooth Gateway: http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Re...M0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1289972227&sr=8-11. The quality of the Tilt 2 paired up with it was really good. I think they need to fix this pronto.

Yeh I have the same problem too, its exactly the same if I use 3.5mm jack aux too, just far too quiet, causes so much distortion, neither bluetooth or 3.5mm sound any better. If you put headphones in you can tell there isnt enough volume at all.
Really needs fixing, seems more of a software issues as I've seen people with various WP7 models complaining about low volume.
Right now I'm having to use my old Touch Pro for audio streaming in the car.

Mine sounds great through headphones and car stereo (BT).
In the car I prefer the sound to my iPhone 3GS through BT and line out.
And the volume is loud enough using Ultimate Ears 5vi IEMs with plenty if bass
Enable the SRS Surround

Sound quality is always in the ear of the beholder, so difficult to fully compare what people consider good or bad.
I find the internal speaker, headphones and line-out (via 3.5mm) too quiet. Quality seems ok from the 3.5mm jack though.
But I tested the BT recently and at high volume it didn't sound very good on a beefy car stereo (with sub). I was disappointed, but had no basis for comparison at the time.

I have this issue too. I'm using the Sony DRBT140Q. The audio sounds perfect when connected to my G1 and Sennheiser BTD-300. But when connected to the HD7 the sound turns kind of...fuzzy on the mids. Gonna go try out other HD7s at the T-mobile store and see if it's a problem with my handset.

I also have this issue. With wired headphones the sound is OK, but with bluetooth audio the sound is bad. I tested it with a jabra BT3030 and with a SonyEricsson MW600. The sound is good with both Headsets when they are connected to my notebook.

HTC are not known for good blutooth support, I was hoping they would get their act together with this phone.

3.5 jack is fine, but bluetooth quality is aweful! was fine on the HD2.
On BT, the bass and mids are ok, but the highs are terrible, they are really crackly/distorted. You can get away with it on dance, because its not too noticable, but in Rock music, it just sounds ****e.

Mujja said:
Enable the SRS Surround
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If you have the phoned paired via Bluetooth Sound Enhancer makes no difference to the sound whatsoever. Even if connecting to 3.5mm and using sound enhancer it sounds terrible in my car.
Think I'm just gonna have to carry on using my Touch Pro 2 until something is changed with the volume. I just think there isnt enough, you have it too loud its distorted so you turn it down and then turn the radio up but its no better because you get a lot of hiss etc.

If your listening though AUX make sure all the sound enhancements are off, they make it sound terrible. They only make an improvement through the phone speaker.
They dont affect bluetooth at all though.

So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??

I have the same problem. Bad quality when streaming via bluetooth to my car radio. With my HD2 and Windows Mobile 6.5 I had exactly the same problem for which there were registry hacks to improve this. Do you think the same registry entries still exist on Windows Phone 7?

Bluetooth audio quality FIXED!!
Ok guys here it is. I figured out how to improve the Bluetooth music streaming quality.
1. Your device must be unlock to do this. Even if your device relocks it doesn’t matter.
2. After unlocking device download and install the XAP file RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. This is a registry Editor for WP7.
3. Once you have the RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. on your phone do the following registry hack:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings]
"Bit Pool"= change Value data to 51.
As I suspected the problem was in the sample rate settings. After I did the hack it sounded beautiful and at full sample rate. Some people don’t have the ear to catch the difference. I like to think I have a very good ear for this sort of thing. Being a musician and aspiring sound designer. I listen to all my music in the car through Bluetooth stereo gateway so I rely on this Bluetooth functionality 100%. Here is an example of the “Value data” number translated to sample rate.
Medium Quality
Bit Pool=35, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 229 kb/s
Bit Pool=33, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 237 kb/s
High Quality
Bit Pool=53, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 328 kb/s
Bit Pool=51, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 345 kb/s
Last Note: Even if you cannot unlock your phone anymore it won’t matter. As long as you gain access to that registry and change it. Unless you do a hard reset or Windows update you will need to repeat the process or unless Microsoft slaps their head about this issue before they release that update.

Wow that sounds like a plausible solution!!
Has anyone else tried it yet? Im still considering whether to hack my phone or not.

Try it. You wont regret it.

It works! did it last night and music was perfect in the car this morning! so happy now!
Just need a reg hack that allows me to download big files from the marketplace through my own 3G signal and not wifi now and ill be very very happy!

Also set "UseJointStereo" to 0 since one of the common joint stereo algorithm uses a lossy audio compression. BT Music sounds great with these changes!

What a difference
Thnx, sounds awesome.

toothfish said:
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
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i´ve the same headset and i noticed that srs-optimizing and dolby mobile is not working over bluetooth
also i cannot play forward

Verizon Trophy Fixed
Thanks for this fix! I finally got my Verizon Trophy fixed after
1. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0 only to get a deployment error
2. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0 only to get a deployment error
3. Editing the XML file in RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0, which successfully deployed the .xap but wouldn't actually let me edit the necessary values BitPool and UseJointStereo. I could change them in the editor, but as soon as I navigated away from the editor they would return to their defaults.
4. Attempted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 only to be unable to run Connection Setup app
5. Completed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963&page=64 after about 10 iterations of trying to open the Connection Setup app at the exact moment described. I didn't think it would work, but it did.
So, in summary, in order to install a registry editor (1.2.0.0) AND have it edit the BitPool and UseJointStereo values on my student developer unlocked Verizon Trophy running official mango update, I had to do an interop unlock.
Took me a few days to sort through, but I'm so unbelievably happy with the result!