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Upgrading WM5 on i-Mate PDA2k

can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx

IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.

No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet

Well, I must agree that WM5 slows down your PDA... for me its performance was kind of acceptable, but still noticeably slower. Especially if u install many applications.
I was just curious to see how WM5 looks like on my MDA III and how it works, but I haven't been satisfied with the results (slower and active sync couldn't recognise device)
so I downgraded it back to 2003SE. For now I think I'll wait a bit more to see how things with WM5 and this device will develop.
If u know why and what are u doing than u can try to upgrade, but imho if it ain't broken... :wink:

Re: No phone after upgrading my i-mate!!
amulet_es said:
After upgrading to WM5 my phone don't work anymore:
Error: Unknown SIM Status
Can you help me?
Thanks
Amulet
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I was (really I am who knows if it will arise again) having this same problem. Have made a follow up to the problem and it seems like the error reproduces if you take the battery out of the device.
I was able to have SIM service again (after many attempts) by resseting it.
I thought it was a problem with my SIM (its already 4 years old). Is yous as old as mine?
Please note my device model.

ammar503 said:
can anyone tell me the performance of WM5 on the i-mate PDA2k, is it slow,, fast?/, just tell me so i upgrade...thx
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I think it will depend on the kind of device you own. On my PDA2k (BlueAngel) WM5 runs even faster than 2003SE.
Some minor problems, though... :roll:

Agree with arieltools as my Orange M2000 (ba) runs perfectly acceptable.

vishny said:
IMHO, it's unacceptable slow. I downgraded my device to 2003SE back.
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Hm-m... Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se. I suppose it becomes slow after some software is installed, maybe spb pocketplus 3.0 ore something... It's very important to make some hacks.
I switched registry to file mode, turned off animation and GUI sounds.
For more information try to search forum about tweaks2k2 wm5.

vishny said:
Today I'm not sure. I've just tried again and have found that just flashed wm5 works pretty fast, almost like 2k3se.
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Yep, I agree with that. Just flashed WM5 worked really great for me, but than again, sync didn't work (yep, i could reinstall XP, coz i know that AS will work in that case) and as soon as I upped some software from other pc, WM5 started to sink... Just to explain, applications worked relatively fast when they started, but getting to them (start - programs etc.) was really slow.
If anyone has good performance results with MDA III (T-Mobile) and WM5 (with some applications on it) i would like to hear about that.

Problems with Skype.

Hi everyone I'm new with WM, before I had only Symbian. I have ATT Tilt which I've unlocked and updated to Kaiser firmware, with help of this forum. Before Skype worked perfect for me, I had WM6 pro, but now when I've upgraded to WM6.1 it wont work, during loading message appears: Failed to load file. I've tried to reinstall it for few times... no help. Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.

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Hi everyone I'm new with WM, before I had only Symbian. I have ATT Tilt which I've unlocked and updated to Kaiser firmware, with help of this forum. Before Skype worked perfect for me, I had WM6 pro, but now when I've upgraded to WM6.1 it wont work, during loading message appears: Failed to load file. I've tried to reinstall it for few times... no help. Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.
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Seriously, does ANYONE read anything around here before they jump into a new ROM? Would you jump into a pool BEFORE looking to see if any water was in it? How many threads have people already posted and said "NOT ALL APPLICATIONS ARE WORKING ON 6.1" Start reading, read some more, THEN post a relevant question.

odessit said:
Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.
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Downgrade back to WM6? Though I think I read somewhere that once you upgrade, you can't go back. There was a thread where people were finding problems with their phones after they went back to 6 that going back to 6.1 again didn't solve.
I remember when Vista first came out and the reports of programs failing left, right and centre. That's one of the main reasons I'm not bothering to upgrade until the compatability issues are resolved...

Is there any alternative program, that is also works with Skype network? I know Fring, but it's not so good. Maybe there are others?

Help Improve My XDA2i and Wi-Fi Problem

Hi
I havent performed any upgrades to my XDA2i (official or otherwise) for at least 3 years - are there any upgrades I should consider?
Here is my Device Info
ROM Version : 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date : 01/27/05
Radio Version : 1.00.00
Protocol Version : 1337.39
ExtROM Version : [THIS IS BLANK]
Model Number : PH10C
Also, I am unable to connect to WiFi with my XDAIIi
The device finds wifi signals and sometimes will make a connection - but when I try and open a webpage I get a screen showing "IIS7" and nothing else.
Here are my settings for WiFi :
Network Card Connects to tiacxwin Campatible Wireless Ethernet (for both The Internet and Work).
Power Save slider is set for Best Performance.
Thanks for any help and advice !!!
Paul

I am in a similar position Paul.
I have been given a 02 XDAll by my company to use for recording surveys.
Its bog standard like yours.
I'd really like to upgrade it but the problem is there is almost too much written about it on these forums .Most of it is so old and out of date that all the links are broken. Its hard work trawling through it.
What is needed is a simple basic upgrading overview listing all the options but I suppose everyone has moved on to more recent PDA's and are no longer interested in these
I've posted a similar request in the Himilayer section .Maybe we can share what we find
Nick

Nick, do you have a Himalaya or an Alpine? PH10B or PH10C?
The Alpine is stuck on WM2003, perfectly good for its task just not upgradeable to WM5 or WM6.
As for customising it realy depends what you are looking for.

Hi DeeDee thank you for responding. I feel guilty hyjacking Paul's thread.
Mine is a Himalaya 10B
with following spec
02 XDAll
2Gb SD card
Rom 1.72.00WWE
Date03/15/04
Radio 1.17.04
ext Rom 1.72.18.1
Ram 128Mb
Model PH10B
I just wanted to improve the Active page if its possible .I cannot read the tiny text so large button icons like the Diamond would be useful
I cannot set the Internet access up either ? have tried for hours.
I have a Netgear Wireless Modem router DG834G but neither the manual or quick guide explain how to set up the XDA .
I have spent several days trawling this site and the net.
Any help appreciated thank you

Nick,
No problem joining in - if we can get the WiFi problem sorted I would be more than happy.
DeeDee,
Should my ExtROM Version be completely blank?
Thanks
Paul

Hi Paul
you're up early !
I have used WM5 on an XDA Mini S (Wizard) a couple of years ago. I imagine that most of the current software and apps are written for WM5 orWM6 so it will mean I'll need to upgrade to WM6. Presume that means flashing the Rom which judging by the number of disasters on this forum is not something I'd do lightly.
Particularly as there are virtually no answers to requests for help.
I found a statement last night that basically says unless you are a software developer you arn't welcome on this forum which probably explains the lack of help.
Yours has the 128 Rom as apposed to my 64Mb which is a big advantage. I have gone off the idea of buying a Himalaya or an Alpine as they are too antiquated really which is a shame as I love the build quality and screen size.
I'm going to look for something a bit more contemporary I think . In the mean time I'll enjoy using the works XDA ll

Hi
Flashing the Himalaya to WM5 or WM6 is painless and it has to be said slightly addictive, you will try many ROMs until you find one you like. Think I have tried most of the ROMs for the Himalaya.
The lack of help has NOTHING to do with not being a developer, i'm not one and have had lots of help. The problem is probably due to the lack of people using these PPCs. i have to confess my Himalaya is purely there as something to muck about with, work didn't want it any more. i have a Trinity as primary PPC phone and an Alpine with an application that doesn't work on WM5.
You won't get your Himalaya to connect to your WiFi as it doesn't do WiFi without an add on card.

DeeDee,
Should my (Alpine) ExtROM Version be completely blank?
Thanks
Paul

Hi Paul
Can't remember and my Alpine is at home, but i don't think so.

deedee said:
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Flashing the Himalaya to WM5 or WM6 is painless and it has to be said slightly addictive, you will try many ROMs until you find one you like. Think I have tried most of the ROMs for the Himalaya.
The lack of help has NOTHING to do with not being a developer, i'm not one and have had lots of help. The problem is probably due to the lack of people using these PPCs. i have to confess my Himalaya is purely there as something to muck about with, work didn't want it any more. i have a Trinity as primary PPC phone and an Alpine with an application that doesn't work on WM5.
You won't get your Himalaya to connect to your WiFi as it doesn't do WiFi without an add on card.
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Thankyou DeeDee I appreciate you taking the trouble to answer silly questions by a noob.
I have downloaded and printed out a 140 page manual and there was nothing clear about connecting to wi-fi
If I have to carry this Hima around with me all day I might as well have it working as well as it can.I had intended to purchase a 3g Iphone for myself but now I'm not so sure I might buy a HTC instead if I can find one with 3.5" screen and wi-fi and a reasonable interface like touchflo
Nick

i have to say the smaller screen on my Trinity is perfectly adequate and that the larger form factor of the Alpine/Himalaya means you need a headset/handsfree kit to really use it as a phone.
It's also not pocketable, which my Trinity is, just.
If you can find a decent mobile shop and have a touchy feely sesion with as many as you can.

thanks DeeDee thats excellent advice. Photos never give a good indication of size and ease of use . The size is a bind like you say its heavy and too big for a shirt pocket but it is easier for me to work with using reading glasses.
I got an 02 XDA mini S when they first came out. I found the screen too small and fiddly and it stayed in the box unused for 18 months when I sold it on ebay for nothing so I have learnt my lesson.

DeeDee may I just ask one other question please. I have trawled through the wiki and various other sources but I still haven'y founf an answer to my initial question on the Himalaya board.
Q1 How do you install a new app on the Hima or Alpine ?
Q2. where does it get installed to ?
Today we lost the special survey App again Grrrrrrrrrrrv because the flippin battery went flat.
My boss is hopping mad and blames me !....I blame IT cos they installed it.
There must be somewhere we can install an App to that is non volatile and is not lost every time the battery goes flat.
Presumably the same place that WM2003 is installed ? How is it done ?

To install an app either:
1 - use Active Sync to install it if necessary
2 - if the install is a CAB file copy it to a memory card and then click it on the PPC to run the install.
As for the where it installs, when you run the installer it may ask where you wish to install, either Device/Storage Card. Make sure both batteries are charging. In all honesty it's not your fault that the end users aren't charging their Alpine on a regular basis.

How to: Cooked ROM with WiMo 5 or 6.x ?

I have my HP 6515 for about 3 years now, and it's still working fine.
But even if it's updated to the latest official ROM from the HP site, the Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition on it, is just getting to old.
I think it would be great, if there would be made a cooked ROM for this device, with Windows Mobile 5 or 6. There would be some many more possibilities with this device, just with a ROM upgrade.
For example: the latest versions of DivX Player Mobile don't support WiMo 2003 (SE). I have to use one of the earliest versions to play AVI's on this device. It can play them fine, without hitches or errors, but you have to use an idiot old version, and you have to set the date to 2006 to get it working.
It's not because I don't want to buy a new phone or something alike (I have an HTC Prophet with WiMo 6.1) but I'd like to learn how to make a cooked ROM, and there's nothing better to experiment with than this device
What are the needs to create cooked ROM's, what software do you need, etc ?
I know there are people who can explain this to me on this forum, and I'm not afraid to learn (or brick my HP ).

Wow, it's great I'm getting so much response...

Does anyone here actually reads this ????????

Impossible
Don't bother anymore cause from what I've been reading it's not possible to put WM5 on iPAQ 65xx because of hardware incompatible memory, and if WM5 don't work WM 6.x is out of the questions cause it uses even more memory.
Have fun with WM2003SE.

yep!
even if you ask HP about it...

update my qtek 2020i, for wm 5.0 or someone genre

hello!
I bought a qtek 2020i and wanted to update it because he's with windows mobile 2003 second editon, and wanted to upgrade it to wm 5.0 or one that is possible. through a rom, but I need you to explain how to install everything, but I am new at this and does not realize anything.
even better was if they could get the software in Portuguese.
thanks
greetings

I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware

zenity said:
I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware
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I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...

paopaotang said:
I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...
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The reason why other HTC devices are able to run WM5 or above is quite complicated, but to be brief, it all comes down to the hardware/software interface, the OS must be able to access the hardware, and for this it needs drivers.
The problem is, Alpine's hardware is different from those devices which can run WM5 and above, and the drivers do not exist, and cannot be modified from other devices.
WM2003se drivers cannot work on WM5, and no other drivers are available, so I'm afraid it's an impossible dream.
In theory it might be possible to develop a version of Android for the Alpine, but this would require a team of skilled developers, and although there are such skilled developers here, I doubt they'd be interested in developing for what is now old hardware.
So, no WM5 or WM6 or Android, only dependable, stable and fast WM2003SE