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O2 V1.11.171 Now Available

Just checked the o2 site and it seems this upgrade is now available, not tried it yet but will tonight

hi, which site are you downloading from?

www.my-xda.com

Any news on whether it is worth upgrading to the .171 ROM? Seems as though the radio is back to 1.00?

bobster007 said:
Just checked the o2 site and it seems this upgrade is now available, not tried it yet but will tonight
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We are waiting for more info about the new rom!

Might be an anomoly but I tried the 171 ROM modified and my device has hard reset twice, with the original ROM the phone stopped working and needed a hard reset to sort it out, twice.
Think I'll keep to my 162 ROM. How's everyone else found it?

http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_soft3.html
here's the direct link for 1.11.171 - just downloading and will let you know how I get on after discovering that 1.11.170 (blackberry)didn't work with radio version as supplied.

Hi!
When I have install it. It apeared the radio 1.100
So still old radio, not v1.104

phuong said:
Hi!
When I have install it. It apeared the radio 1.100
So still old radio, not v1.104
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that is correct. Radio 1.104 is not compatible with the Blackberry system. This is the main reason that ROM 1.11.170 was removed from the o2 website as it had upgraded the Radio version from 1.100 to 1.104.

Hi! I've just bought an O2XDAIIi. I just wonder which ROM version I should use to upgrade my XDA. Could anyone give me an advice?

MrSandman said:
Hi! I've just bought an O2XDAIIi. I just wonder which ROM version I should use to upgrade my XDA. Could anyone give me an advice?
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I'm using Blackberry and have upgraded to the latest o2 ROM - 1.11.171. If you aren't using Blackberry, try using Pugs cooked version of 1.11.169.

Is there any change to Blackberry functionality on 71 over 69?
Won't be changing if there isn't.

I belive that if your using the o2email open and not the BES version you won;t lose your Calendar options.

We use BES so no need to change then - thanks

Well ROM version 1.11.171 seems to be as stable as 1.11.169 and I don't have to use the workaround to sync Outlook Calendar.
I wonder if o2 are going to release more XDA phones that can use Blackberry - I quiet fancy the o2 Atom but it doesn't list BB which is a shame.

171 ROM is the BT reliability resolved
Symbasean,
Stating that the 171 ROM is as stable as the 169 ROM is a little bit of a two edged sword for me.
When I applied the O2 ROM last October / November it trashed my bluetooth functionality, effectively making my Jabra 250V a large black ear ring and the XDA 11i an electronic chocolate tea pot, for use in a car.
Can you sense my frustration with O2, who offered me £10 off my next bill as compensation and then didn't give it to me.
I switched to one of PUG's home cooked ROMs and this has been 80% successful, but randomly fails to deliver the sound.
His version has been a saviour, but would the 171 be an improvement for the BT stability and reliability?
Sorry for the incredibly rambling first post. :?: :roll:

I upgraded to the new software last night and have noticed one small annoyance. I used to be able to to deactivate GPRS by clicking the connectivity icon in the title bar and tapping disconnect. Now the disconnect option isn't there for GPRS. Eventually I discovered that I could turn off GPRS by holding the end call button.

Re: 171 ROM is the BT reliability resolved
dgt1963 said:
Symbasean,
Stating that the 171 ROM is as stable as the 169 ROM is a little bit of a two edged sword for me.
When I applied the O2 ROM last October / November it trashed my bluetooth functionality, effectively making my Jabra 250V a large black ear ring and the XDA 11i an electronic chocolate tea pot, for use in a car.
Can you sense my frustration with O2, who offered me £10 off my next bill as compensation and then didn't give it to me.
I switched to one of PUG's home cooked ROMs and this has been 80% successful, but randomly fails to deliver the sound.
His version has been a saviour, but would the 171 be an improvement for the BT stability and reliability?
Sorry for the incredibly rambling first post. :?: :roll:
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two points:-
1. please spell my name correctly.
2. "Well ROM version 1.11.171 seems" - note also the word, "Seems". I make no direct comparison on stablity, only that mine has not crashed - caveat empore......

Apologies
Symbaseian
Sorry for the mistake.
I shall try the ROM and see.
I have to agree caveat emptor is an appropriate warning with this particular device.
If it worked as well as it is should, straoight out of the box, it would be excellent.
But it does have some way to go, and without the likes of these forums, it would not happen.
Dave

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dgt1963 said:
Symbaseian
Sorry for the mistake.
I shall try the ROM and see.
I have to agree caveat emptor is an appropriate warning with this particular device.
If it worked as well as it is should, straoight out of the box, it would be excellent.
But it does have some way to go, and without the likes of these forums, it would not happen.
Dave
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I totally agree. When I first got one of these I couldn't use TT3 let alone TT5 without it locking up all the time if I used anything other than my old 128mb Compaq SD card, but having listened and learned on this forum and also on pocketgpsworld I now have a stable XDAIIi with blackberry.
It's taken a long time to get to where I'm fully happy with the device (except camera performance - but I very rarely use that anyway) often involving Tomtom tech support, o2 tech support and these forums. If you feel happy using Pugs ROM version without blackberry please go ahead, but for me that's not an option.
It's just a shame that we have had to co-develope to get a product that is finally starting to show everything that it first promised.....

I love this ROM!

I flashed my MDA about a week ago, and thanks to this forum (everybody), and XCPUScalar, I have a unit that boots up a full 80 seconds faster (from about 190) runs substantially faster, like getting immediate response from Pocket Informant instead of waiting 8 or so seconds, and has needed no soft-resetting since I upgraded (although one should do it on occaision, so I do). I have installed about 35 apps, and that process was cut from a few hours to less than two (with distractions).
I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed.
Did I mention I'm a newbie? And if you haven't done this yet and you're having a hard time finding instructions, there all in the installation file, just make your backups and jump in, but make sure you have the right ROM/hardware combo and phone service.

Is a MDA the same as a Cingular 8125?
Which ROM did you use?
What did you use to backup?
I'm a newbie also. I want to do this. I've been reading this forum for 2 weeks. I still don't have much of a clue. If I was certain that I could get back to where I am if I screwed up, I'd be more willing to "jump in". I have flashed routers before so it's not totally foreign to me.
Thanks for any help/advice that you are kind enough to throw my way,
Porter

Which ROM is this?

Yes. Could you identify this marvelous ROM?

yes, i love her, too.

Since I've not heard about an update to XCPUScalar which supports OMAP processors, I think this guy has got the wrong forum.

you say you love the rom! But which ****ing rom do you mean exactly?

Sorry. T-mobile USA 2.24 Custom ROM
Here's the link that got me there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300&highlight=tmobile+motorola
There is another ROM for other service providers (Cingular) that I hear is just like this one but has a higher number, like 3.x. There is a link in the thread on page 7 or so. ??? There is also a newer version of the T-Mo USA ROM available, but I can't reflect on that.
The MDA also goes by the Name MDA vario, Qtek 1900 (I think), and Wizard. I don't know of any other names. I learned this by searching for leather cases on Ebay. The pictures said it all. I highly recommend being sure you know all the names, particularly the HTC name, of your unit before trying to tell it with a new ROM what model it is. If they don't match, you could mess up irreparably, although there are developers here who might argue about the irreparable part, I don't have the skills or time they do.
Read, be sure it all matches, and *then* thake the plunge!

Hey, the XCPU Scalar works. ???
I am one of those people who is willing to try unheard-of things. ImmierSoft made my MDA go faster, I don't particularly care how.
And I'm not a guy.

XCPUScalar uses a different processor than what the Wizard uses. Unless you are imagining things, you are probably using a ppc other than the Wizard.

Did it not appear that I understood...
... the processor types were different? It's not helpful to be condescending for you or for the person you're talking to. It's Immiersoft's XCPUScalar, and a T-Mobile MDA (US), which is the Wizard. There are certain things I can do woth the software to make the unit crash.
"There was a little girl who said why
can't I see my ear with my eye
I'm sure I cn do it
if I put my mind to it
You never do know til you try!"
Why so negative?

I'm signing off of this forum
I'm pretty fed up with the lack of social skills on this forum, particularly the moderators. I personally can't afford to risk/try this kind of hard work at this point in my life. If you have further questions, please search the forum, there are likely some sort of answers to your question. (e.g. looking up the latest ROMs for your model to see what's available to you rather than asking me what I'm talking about. thanks all for your interst and time!

...nevermind...

Janis, if you have a Wizard (and not, for example, a Magician - check the pics on the forum index) then XCPUScalar has no effect on your processor speed. I checked their website, and they still do not support OMAP processors. XCPUScalar is designed for (Intel) XScale processors (and one other type, which escapes me) - it is not a generic ARM overclocker. So far, only OMAPclock is able to overclock the OMAP processor in the Wizard.
I also think some people on this forum should grow up and stop acting like children when someone says something they don't like, or in a manner they do not like. I don't see your reasoning, Janis, behind "spitting the dummy out" when someone wants to know what exactly you are talking about when you start a brand new thread with no reference to anything solid in the body of it.

What is funny though, the first post of Janis contained comments and 1 question:
"I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed."
Maybe one of you "experts" could try to answer or help on that one........

wifi problem
i just upgraded to the Tmobile 2.26 ROM and also have the same wifi problem... my wifi wont connect to my dlink 900AP access point. It was working fine before the upgrade. Any ideas? Thanks

Not sure if this is the case, but I'll give it a shot.
If you just upgraded your ROM, I believe it wipes out any registry settings you had previously changed.
In the case of a wifi network, if you're running an 802.11g-only network then you will have to go back in to the registry of your Wizard and enable 802.11g on the Wizard for it to connect.
You'll also need to re-enter any network keys as they were wiped out as well.

Like i said the processor for XCPUScalar is for XScale, not OMAP (which is what the Wizard uses). I'm sorry if you took my comment in the wrong manner and took it personally.
As for the question in your original post, well check to see which network you are on (G, B, or mixed). The Wizard is originally set on B without registry changes (unless T-Mobile fixed this). If you have set your wireless network setup with a password, try setting up your network without a password just to confirm if a connection can be made and your problem is a security issue. If that doesn't work, I find that making registry changes to the MDA for a G connection works perfectly whenever I try this. Just make sure you set your router on the G network and try again. Also try to set you wireless connections on your phone to performance and see if that changes anything.
And for the others don't judge me. How many times have I asked for help and got no response or a negative one. I don't even recall ever getting a thankyou for helping anyone on this site. Everyone tends to ask for help then I never hear from them again. Sound familiar? I thought so.

I decided to edit out my venting ... doesn't do any good ...
btw, I agree that you should check out your registry settings regarding the WiFi.....

"Hey guys, this ROM is great!!"
"Which ROM?"
"**** you!!"

Windows Mobile 5 - why do it?

Hi all,
Just got myself an O2 XDA(ii). I have heard people banging on about WM5 and how I should upgrade the OS.
However, one question - why do it?
What will I gain by doing the upgrade?
Will it consume more system resources and therefore have an overhead performance?
What woes will be introduced by upgrading - will it break anything?
Is WM5 really as stable as WM3?
I hope I can get answers to these questions!!
Many thanks!

why use windows when dos works fine?

Windows is a GUI, dos is a CLI.
Both human interfaces are radically different.
The questions I posed are reasonable.

Try this..
borrow a WM5 device from someone for a day and dont use ur WM2003 device.
If u like something in that device, install WM5 on your BA and test it, try it

I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...

WM5 VS WM3
Hi,
It is a true question,
- I have just used WM5 a week. So I hope my experience will be useful for you.
Fist, the WM5 store all data on it's ROM so you won't lost you data example: instaled program in device, contacts, SMS, MMS... if it run out of energy, hard reset... But, that causes the speed is slower than official WM2003 Version 1.42.
It still remain some bugs example: sometime freeze when you turn it on, BT and wifi sometime need a softreset to turn on.
The energy consumsion is the same (waiting phone mode). Others depend on backlight, % CPU usage.
Certainly WM5 have much more feature. I really don't known what I should advice you now because I still often reset 1-2 time/day like my laptop. But I don't like thing which is the same forever expecialy softwares.
I hope you can have your answer.
Daeljan said:
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
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Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.

This is xda-developers so the question of why use WM5 on BA sort of answers itself by the simple fact that M$ has not given it to us in the first place (well this could also not be true as M$ did make a copy but none of the providers gave us a rom so that we all go out and by a new WM5 Device).
So why not? In the long run its more of a matter of taste, some have gone for and stayed with the WM5 on a BA, others have gone back and others have gone and brought a REAL WM5 device.
Its up to you, if you read the threads (of which there are many) you will find reasons to stay away and reasons to install it. Like I say its sort of personal.
Oh yes DOS was and is cool, still to this day I use it.

Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out

Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out, and if you don't like it go back 2k3, makes the most sense. You seem like a smart chap i'm sure you can figure it out, no harm to the device, and you'll get all your answers bra
My two cents if you like command line and stability learn linux, bash away!

Daeljan said:
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
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Hi Daeljan,
Welcome to the community! I'm sorry if some of the guys answered like that, but you have to understand that this question pops in from newbies every couple days "Why shall I do it?", "What's the difference", etc... So some of us just get tired of answering!
I am sure however, that you'll find many extremely interesting, highly technical threads.
So, to answer your question: WM2K+3 vs WM5
- I believe that part of doing it was actually to try to see it could be done, I mean the operators left us with an exceptional device (the BlueAngel) without upgrade, so many of us felt "betrayed" and wanted to get the latest, and greatest despite the lack of official support for a release.
- The LATEST version of WM5 (Helmi v3.2) is much more stable that the early versions, I'm currently running it and never think about downgrading back to WM2K3. Amongst the things I find interesting:
- The OS is almost as fast as WM2K3, in fact I run all most of the new versions of software flawlessly.
- WM5 has flat memory and no sharing between the "Storage" and "Execution" spaces (Which is something you will immediately notice on your old OS), so you get more running memory for your applications.
- Because of the above, WM5 has "resilient" storage, i.e. a reset will not erase your data, that alone is a great advantage.
- Some apps that do not run anymore on WM2K3 are now accessible for our community.
- Some applications are natively available on WM5 (Like Mobile PowerPoint) for example, and are not there on WM2K3.
- Better synchronization with your desktop device (You can, for example see your contact pictures directly synchronized, whereas with WM2K3, you can't).
On the other hand, we have a few issues (That are getting fixed with every new release), like:
- Slightly higher power consumption.
- A very, very ugly bluetooth protocol stack... People are doing an amazing job there, and the problem is almost over.
- Other minor issues that you'll discover while browsing the links.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
W.

1) click search, type an abbrevieted version of your first post in it.
2) be swamped with a massive amount of posts ABOUT THE SAME THING.
3) repeat in future.
(sorry if im being a bit harsh but i myself have awnserwed this question many times before, just search in future!)

Thank you all for your answers, and sorry for making you repeat yourselves.
I suppose that this is an obvious topic for discussion that many people naturally want to know about.
So why not post a summary of it all somewhere where people can find it without having to mine the forums? I searched the FAQ for WM5, Upgrade, Windows Mobile 5, in various combinations and nothing came up.
The bluetooth problems are a little scary though if the XDA is to be used as a GPS, connected to the antenna via bluetooth.
Anyhow, thanks again.

Hic
You can try, it is easy to downgrade, not compelex as in the instruction.
1. Change to bootloader mode, connect USB run Ship file,
2. After the instaltion procces finished, softreset your BA.
3. The first start maybe get mistake, cause ExtraRom could be changed, softreset again, your BA will run in a pure state, unhide ExtraROM-softreset, copy all files in the ExtraROM of Ship file (extract from Ship file) to the ExtraROM, you can also change ExtraRom as you want.
4. Hardreset---everything is OK.

Wzaatar
Very nice post you did there old chap, thanks. You almost got me to try it all over again.

I use the ROM in my signature and I find it great apart from the odd problem but that could be from the 50+ apps I have on it.

Go for it...
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
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OK, I'll try to give you a different slant on things....
WM5 utilises persistent storage (as stated above) which means that, should you find yourself in the unfortunate position that your BA has run out of juice you'll retain all your data (even the RAMDisk contents contrary to some other peoples posts). This is not the case in WM2003SE. If you let the battery run down in WM2003SE it's adios amigo! And start all over again.
WM2003SE while quite stable, is not perfect, especially once you have several apps installed and use it aggressively. WM5, while technically only in beta for this device (as they are mostly hacked/patched/ported ROM's) can prove to be a very stable platform. I have used nearly every version of WM5 on this forum to try and find the 'right' one... and I use my BA constantly, for business purposes and satnav guidance.
Comparing the 2 OS's is like comparing Windows XP and Vista... XP is a proven system, Vista is not, so direct comparison would be unfair to either... as for performance, with the tweaks now found in the newer WM5 ROM's I find my BA responds as well, if not better, than with WM2003SE, battery consumption is a little higher but that can be resloved with any of the CPU throttling apps available...
I wholeheartedly recommend the AKU 2.6 version of Helmi's ROM. I went away on business recently with WM2003SE installed and while away flashed this version of the ROM. My reason for being back with WM2003SE prior to this was the sluggishness of my BA after a while of running WM5. During my absence the Page Pool fix reared its head and all seemed to be good in the world. While AKU3.2 is the newest version of WM5 it has inherent compatability issues with much of the software available for WM5, even Microsoft's own such as Voice Command (an app I actually make use of!). The AKU2.6 ROM doesn't have these issues, and with the paging fix does not become sluggish at all.
9 weeks on and my system has only frozen once, and that was with a 'hacked' piece of software so I don't blame the system... I have not had to reflash once, and I honestly don't remember having to soft reset... I have yet to find a WM5 compatible app which doesn't work with it, and I use it day in, day out.
In short, I jumped on the WM5 bandwagon some time agao and was very disillsusioned at one point, so much so that I returned to WM2003SE... However I missed the smoother GUI, the much better handling of popups and alerts, the tighter integration with Outlook, the better operation of ActiveSync and so forth, so I came back to the fold, and I will not be downgrading again...
If you use Push Email anything after AKU2 (or is it 2.3?) is a Godsend, and believe me, the overall feel of the OS is much smoother, it feels like a 'pocket pc', rather than a really gucci phone!!
I use my BA to play media, read newsfeeds, browse the web, check/send email, and all the other stuff my mates do on their laptops, and if you have the right settings for your provider there should be no issues with connectivity... I have A2DP set up as well so I have a stereo BT headset for music/video etc... I run TomTom, Garmin Que, OziExplorer...
Oh! And I use it as a PDA/Organiser, my life is on that brick, and believe me, it gets hammered!!
I also have an XDA Exec now and to be honest I prefer the BA... although I do love my IQ (but Smartphone is a whole different kettle of fish)!!
I hope this gratuitous plug of WM5 helps sway your decision

I personally like WM5. The issue for me, and the reason I bought the SX66 in the first place, was screen size and muscle. Alot of the affordable WM5 devices out have small screens compared to what I am used to in a PDA. I cannot afford and Jasjar (wish I could) so I looked for something with a decent screen size and processing power.
The SX66 was the only choice for me, EXACTLY because I could flash it too WM5 Haven't looked back since. I run my games (Morphgear - SNES), work with my files without having to squint too much, play my music and get phone calls. Coolest thing in the world.
I have compared it side by side with the 8125 and the windows Treo, it kept up easy enough. Out did them in some area's, lost in one (no camera)... but in the end its just as functional as the new ones.
Flash it and see!

Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
hi Daeljan,
Just reiterating what people has said before
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy.
-- if this is what you need, then you definitely need to upgrade to latest WM5 (Helmi, Xplode - both are great). The sole idea of "persistent storage" itself is a must to upgrade. I am using IIs (Helmi's rom) and I actually found my BA is more stable than when I used 2003SE. I had this hard reset issue when I pressed the green button to receive phone call. It annoyed the hell out of me. It happened to me about 3 times... Now this problem is gone. Just imagine yourself is out of town for a business trip and suddenly our "stable 2003SE" hard reset by itself and the back up file is at home in your pc... what a bum huh? it happened to me.
I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
-- This is a subjective comment from me, I think the current version of WM5 out here are good enuf. I dont think it will "mature" too much cause people WILL be busy playing with WM6. As far as I know, more and more developers make new softwares for WM5/6 and less make them for 2003.
Yes, WM5 still has some issues now, but I have not found 1 piece of software that is perfect. even 2003SE had issues. However, these are acceptable issues (for me anyway).
Just a happy user of WM5 and I would never go back to 2003SE (unless I want to sell my beloved BA, then i might have to flash it back to factory rom ).
If you want to wait, dont wait for WM5... wait for a more stable WM6.
Like other happy users, I still have hopes the geniuses from xda-dev would find a way to make WM6 work on BA... whatever solution that is...
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WM5 allows me to install apps to my storage cards - very useful! There is also the "device lock" feature which has saved me $$$ in phone bills from calls I didnt make.

Why is everyone so obsessed with windows mobile 5 and 6

Performance for a device that runs in flash memory has to be lower performance than one that runs in ram when doing any writing so as long as you do backups just in case then the other benefits are marginal. I dont see any pont in upgrading if WM6 were available for the XDA 2i. With the right configuration and software the XDA 2i is still as good as any of the new PDA Phones around now apart from the camera resolution. It has a fast processor, good helping of ram, large screen, supports 4Gb SD cards and has a large user base. Work with what it offers !

I Agree
It could not be said any better.
I Agree...

I agree I only got my XDA IIi a month or so ago in a deal for upgrading somones PC for them and they offered it in PX I tried it for a few days and found it well worth while it will run TT6 no problems and in fact picks up changes quicker than a Navman iC520 I have personally all I really want is a car harness for it and I will be sorted

if you look at all the new applications that runs under wm5 & wm6, you would change your way of thinking... have a fast look at the himalaya (that has lower specifications than our phone)...
..

Also consider the vast number of applications available for WM 2003 and the small number that are WM5 only almost all of which have 2003 versions anyway. I honestly cant see anything that only runs only on WM5 or 6 that I would miss. There are versions of new software but almost all of these dont realy offer any new functions just re written for wm5/6 big deal. Having had a go on a couple of WM 5 PPCs I cant see any great benefit and performance seems worse than the Alpine generally.Because the majority of WM users are on 2003 still software houses would be mad not to support the main market. This will change in time but like so many new software releases there are few with real innovation, maybe the IPhone in an exeption but I will wait until there is actually something worth having before I upgrade. If you always hanker after the latest model you will not be happy for long as there is always a new model round the corner.

I reason was for the new built-in Exchange email connectivity with html email, which allows for instant email with out setting an activesync of every 15 minutes or so. My Phone will get email before my Computer does.
-Polen

i have an Alpine and a Trinity and use them both for different things, so far i have only found one app that was WM5 only, and have found a similar app for the WM2003 instead. The Alpine does have a tendency to get stuck more than the Trinity but it's the work of moments to soft reset it, and it doesn't suffer with the periodic lock up on receiving a text that my Trinity does.
Not sure i could actually pick one ove the other if i had to, and i may well have to as work may be reclaiming the Trinity when its current "test and evaluation" period ends.

I'm a Himalaya user. I used WM2003 till quite recently. I'm now a 100% convinced WM6 user. In WM2003 I had to constantly use the stylus, in WM6 I use my index finger most of the time. I still have a thumb keypad to click under my Hima, I believe it also fits on Alpine. Anyone wants to buy it?

Rom Advice needed please

Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....

Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset

+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.

still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha

Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...

Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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