I flashed my MDA about a week ago, and thanks to this forum (everybody), and XCPUScalar, I have a unit that boots up a full 80 seconds faster (from about 190) runs substantially faster, like getting immediate response from Pocket Informant instead of waiting 8 or so seconds, and has needed no soft-resetting since I upgraded (although one should do it on occaision, so I do). I have installed about 35 apps, and that process was cut from a few hours to less than two (with distractions).
I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed.
Did I mention I'm a newbie? And if you haven't done this yet and you're having a hard time finding instructions, there all in the installation file, just make your backups and jump in, but make sure you have the right ROM/hardware combo and phone service.
Is a MDA the same as a Cingular 8125?
Which ROM did you use?
What did you use to backup?
I'm a newbie also. I want to do this. I've been reading this forum for 2 weeks. I still don't have much of a clue. If I was certain that I could get back to where I am if I screwed up, I'd be more willing to "jump in". I have flashed routers before so it's not totally foreign to me.
Thanks for any help/advice that you are kind enough to throw my way,
Porter
Which ROM is this?
Yes. Could you identify this marvelous ROM?
yes, i love her, too.
Since I've not heard about an update to XCPUScalar which supports OMAP processors, I think this guy has got the wrong forum.
you say you love the rom! But which ****ing rom do you mean exactly?
Sorry. T-mobile USA 2.24 Custom ROM
Here's the link that got me there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300&highlight=tmobile+motorola
There is another ROM for other service providers (Cingular) that I hear is just like this one but has a higher number, like 3.x. There is a link in the thread on page 7 or so. ??? There is also a newer version of the T-Mo USA ROM available, but I can't reflect on that.
The MDA also goes by the Name MDA vario, Qtek 1900 (I think), and Wizard. I don't know of any other names. I learned this by searching for leather cases on Ebay. The pictures said it all. I highly recommend being sure you know all the names, particularly the HTC name, of your unit before trying to tell it with a new ROM what model it is. If they don't match, you could mess up irreparably, although there are developers here who might argue about the irreparable part, I don't have the skills or time they do.
Read, be sure it all matches, and *then* thake the plunge!
Hey, the XCPU Scalar works. ???
I am one of those people who is willing to try unheard-of things. ImmierSoft made my MDA go faster, I don't particularly care how.
And I'm not a guy.
XCPUScalar uses a different processor than what the Wizard uses. Unless you are imagining things, you are probably using a ppc other than the Wizard.
Did it not appear that I understood...
... the processor types were different? It's not helpful to be condescending for you or for the person you're talking to. It's Immiersoft's XCPUScalar, and a T-Mobile MDA (US), which is the Wizard. There are certain things I can do woth the software to make the unit crash.
"There was a little girl who said why
can't I see my ear with my eye
I'm sure I cn do it
if I put my mind to it
You never do know til you try!"
Why so negative?
I'm signing off of this forum
I'm pretty fed up with the lack of social skills on this forum, particularly the moderators. I personally can't afford to risk/try this kind of hard work at this point in my life. If you have further questions, please search the forum, there are likely some sort of answers to your question. (e.g. looking up the latest ROMs for your model to see what's available to you rather than asking me what I'm talking about. thanks all for your interst and time!
...nevermind...
Janis, if you have a Wizard (and not, for example, a Magician - check the pics on the forum index) then XCPUScalar has no effect on your processor speed. I checked their website, and they still do not support OMAP processors. XCPUScalar is designed for (Intel) XScale processors (and one other type, which escapes me) - it is not a generic ARM overclocker. So far, only OMAPclock is able to overclock the OMAP processor in the Wizard.
I also think some people on this forum should grow up and stop acting like children when someone says something they don't like, or in a manner they do not like. I don't see your reasoning, Janis, behind "spitting the dummy out" when someone wants to know what exactly you are talking about when you start a brand new thread with no reference to anything solid in the body of it.
What is funny though, the first post of Janis contained comments and 1 question:
"I have one issue, and it probably isn't the MDA. My WiFi won't connect with my XP home workgroup network. I'm looking into that. Any help would be welcomed."
Maybe one of you "experts" could try to answer or help on that one........
wifi problem
i just upgraded to the Tmobile 2.26 ROM and also have the same wifi problem... my wifi wont connect to my dlink 900AP access point. It was working fine before the upgrade. Any ideas? Thanks
Not sure if this is the case, but I'll give it a shot.
If you just upgraded your ROM, I believe it wipes out any registry settings you had previously changed.
In the case of a wifi network, if you're running an 802.11g-only network then you will have to go back in to the registry of your Wizard and enable 802.11g on the Wizard for it to connect.
You'll also need to re-enter any network keys as they were wiped out as well.
Like i said the processor for XCPUScalar is for XScale, not OMAP (which is what the Wizard uses). I'm sorry if you took my comment in the wrong manner and took it personally.
As for the question in your original post, well check to see which network you are on (G, B, or mixed). The Wizard is originally set on B without registry changes (unless T-Mobile fixed this). If you have set your wireless network setup with a password, try setting up your network without a password just to confirm if a connection can be made and your problem is a security issue. If that doesn't work, I find that making registry changes to the MDA for a G connection works perfectly whenever I try this. Just make sure you set your router on the G network and try again. Also try to set you wireless connections on your phone to performance and see if that changes anything.
And for the others don't judge me. How many times have I asked for help and got no response or a negative one. I don't even recall ever getting a thankyou for helping anyone on this site. Everyone tends to ask for help then I never hear from them again. Sound familiar? I thought so.
I decided to edit out my venting ... doesn't do any good ...
btw, I agree that you should check out your registry settings regarding the WiFi.....
"Hey guys, this ROM is great!!"
"Which ROM?"
"**** you!!"
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Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...
Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:
HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners
Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!
I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.
That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom
Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.
Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ
Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!
sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!
My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ
i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!
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(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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Hi, I have done a lot of searching on this topic, but haven't been able to find anything definitive on the best way to install blackberry connect. I am about to pick up a Siemens SX66 (Cingular version, but will be using on Tmobile) and want to make sure that I will be able to get the blackberry functionality to work.
I have a few questions/comments/observations that I would love to get everyones feedback on. If there something out there that explains how to get it working, I am sorry and please feel free to point me in the right direction.
1. My understanding is that the blackberry connect software is in the extended rom. So far I have been able to find the following cab files which I believe have the blackberry software: htc_pocketpc_tmo_germany_2.0.0.25-18.cab, HTC_PocketPC_TMO_Austria_Germany_Load_Working.cab and htc_pocketpc_tmo_england_2.0.0.25-18.cab. Not sure what else is in here, but it looks like the blackberry client is there as well.
2. If I use one of those roms, what language will the software be? Will have to use the tmobile UK version for english?
3. I have been reading about people have problems with the phone rom. These are post from a while back, it seems that the UK blackberry client need version 1.0 and the german version need 1.06? Is this correct or can I use the lasted phone rom?
4. Is there any limitations on the System Rom or Extended Rom? Do I need a specific version? I want to make sure I have english on the device though.
5. Let's say I do get all the right software. Is there a problem in the US where Blackberry won't register Blackberry Connect PINs? I was reading in another forum that someone was having a problem with this on their SX66 and also I am upgrading from a Sony Ericsson P910a where I couldn't get my PIN added to Blackberry servers.
The main reason I want the device is to replace my blackberry and this is extremely important. Other functionality is awesome, but secondary as I need to make sure I have access to my corporate email.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!
There are 2 threads in the blue angel section that have Blackberry connect ih the title. Might be of help.
Thanks saw those posts after, I figured the info would be in this section. I posted some questions there as well, but any help would be appreciated. Not sure if this is going to work....oh well..
To the best of my knowledge...
NOBODY has been able to make the BB Connect software work on SX66 on Cingular.
I've all but given up. Maybe WM2005 will be different...
Crap, though I take it the problem is Cingular not the phone right? Do you know if anyone has been able to get it to work on T-Mobile? What is the problem you are having, is it the PIN / IMEI registration issue?
that's certainly a part of it...
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Umm i hate to say this but also that PIN number is alos tied to a carrier, and RIM will NOT release that PIN number to be used on another carrier's network, i know, i am a data support rep with Cingular. if you want something just like the Blackberry then go pay and get the GoodLink solution, otherwise i wouldnt complain about something free that cingular offers, I use it and i agree it isnt the best but works pretty damn well considering it FREE!!! for the PErsonal Edition. Besides, if you wanted to use the BWC (BlackBerry Web client) it isnt exactly Push either, the only forms available are the Redirector and the BES, but considering Congular is offering a solution for FREE i woulnt complain if i were you. If you wanna get mad at not having that solution get mad at RIM not Cingular...... :!:
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
Well I have the desktop software in english and just installed the german software on my sx66. I think I got it to connect but its hard to tell. Iwonder if there is any other software out there....
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Damm, I actually just found the software for 2.0 software for Tmobile UK. Now it only gets an IP address for two seconds then looses it. I think its the same problem I had with my p910a I can't get the server to recognize it.
Please prove me wrong!
Figure out how to make this work, and you'll be the hero of every Cingular / SX66 user on this board!
I am getting much closer now, I hacked (hex edit) one of the dll files to point to an IP address of 206.51.26.192 instead of 206.51.26.189. I know the .192 is the right address from my old blackberry. Now I actually stay live on the APN with an IP address and everything, where before I would get one for a second and get kicked out. I think it's a matter of registering it now. If anyone wants to try this dll, replace the one in the windows directory. Also I will upload the version of blackberry connect I am using... Please try as well...
Here is the dll I mentioned...replace this with the one in windows directory
Seem s like you are getting somewere on this issue.
Feel like writing a How to so that we can post it on wiki?
If you need help PM me I can also move what ever files that you like on the FTP site.
Thanks, just haven't gotten it to work totally yet, but that may just need a call to Tmobile to ask them to set it up. I have made progress in the fact that my blackberry.net apn now stays connected, where before it would disconnect after a minute or two. I think I am half way there. Need some more people to play around who have tried before to see if they get anywhere...
Can you also post the desktop software version you're using?
There hasn't been a recent posting of the BB Config software in quite some time...
Thanks!
It's too large, check the ftp server. look for somethign called bb_desktop_sw_mda3_20.exe It's up there somewhere.... poke around uploads as well...
Oh wait... I got it from tmobile directly, hehehe...
http://www.t-mobile.de/business/blackberry/smallbusiness/1,8236,8577-_,00.html
So you're using the German version?
Make it work, and I won't care what language it's in!
I agree, first I tried the german one, before I found the Tmobile Uk one. Did you try downloading everything and installing?
yup...
still can't make it work on my end... although I haven't changed anything in Hex...
Try the dll I fixed up also, let me know if it makes any difference....
Hi all,
Just got myself an O2 XDA(ii). I have heard people banging on about WM5 and how I should upgrade the OS.
However, one question - why do it?
What will I gain by doing the upgrade?
Will it consume more system resources and therefore have an overhead performance?
What woes will be introduced by upgrading - will it break anything?
Is WM5 really as stable as WM3?
I hope I can get answers to these questions!!
Many thanks!
why use windows when dos works fine?
Windows is a GUI, dos is a CLI.
Both human interfaces are radically different.
The questions I posed are reasonable.
Try this..
borrow a WM5 device from someone for a day and dont use ur WM2003 device.
If u like something in that device, install WM5 on your BA and test it, try it
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
WM5 VS WM3
Hi,
It is a true question,
- I have just used WM5 a week. So I hope my experience will be useful for you.
Fist, the WM5 store all data on it's ROM so you won't lost you data example: instaled program in device, contacts, SMS, MMS... if it run out of energy, hard reset... But, that causes the speed is slower than official WM2003 Version 1.42.
It still remain some bugs example: sometime freeze when you turn it on, BT and wifi sometime need a softreset to turn on.
The energy consumsion is the same (waiting phone mode). Others depend on backlight, % CPU usage.
Certainly WM5 have much more feature. I really don't known what I should advice you now because I still often reset 1-2 time/day like my laptop. But I don't like thing which is the same forever expecialy softwares.
I hope you can have your answer.
Daeljan said:
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
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Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
This is xda-developers so the question of why use WM5 on BA sort of answers itself by the simple fact that M$ has not given it to us in the first place (well this could also not be true as M$ did make a copy but none of the providers gave us a rom so that we all go out and by a new WM5 Device).
So why not? In the long run its more of a matter of taste, some have gone for and stayed with the WM5 on a BA, others have gone back and others have gone and brought a REAL WM5 device.
Its up to you, if you read the threads (of which there are many) you will find reasons to stay away and reasons to install it. Like I say its sort of personal.
Oh yes DOS was and is cool, still to this day I use it.
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out, and if you don't like it go back 2k3, makes the most sense. You seem like a smart chap i'm sure you can figure it out, no harm to the device, and you'll get all your answers bra
My two cents if you like command line and stability learn linux, bash away!
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Hi Daeljan,
Welcome to the community! I'm sorry if some of the guys answered like that, but you have to understand that this question pops in from newbies every couple days "Why shall I do it?", "What's the difference", etc... So some of us just get tired of answering!
I am sure however, that you'll find many extremely interesting, highly technical threads.
So, to answer your question: WM2K+3 vs WM5
- I believe that part of doing it was actually to try to see it could be done, I mean the operators left us with an exceptional device (the BlueAngel) without upgrade, so many of us felt "betrayed" and wanted to get the latest, and greatest despite the lack of official support for a release.
- The LATEST version of WM5 (Helmi v3.2) is much more stable that the early versions, I'm currently running it and never think about downgrading back to WM2K3. Amongst the things I find interesting:
- The OS is almost as fast as WM2K3, in fact I run all most of the new versions of software flawlessly.
- WM5 has flat memory and no sharing between the "Storage" and "Execution" spaces (Which is something you will immediately notice on your old OS), so you get more running memory for your applications.
- Because of the above, WM5 has "resilient" storage, i.e. a reset will not erase your data, that alone is a great advantage.
- Some apps that do not run anymore on WM2K3 are now accessible for our community.
- Some applications are natively available on WM5 (Like Mobile PowerPoint) for example, and are not there on WM2K3.
- Better synchronization with your desktop device (You can, for example see your contact pictures directly synchronized, whereas with WM2K3, you can't).
On the other hand, we have a few issues (That are getting fixed with every new release), like:
- Slightly higher power consumption.
- A very, very ugly bluetooth protocol stack... People are doing an amazing job there, and the problem is almost over.
- Other minor issues that you'll discover while browsing the links.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
W.
1) click search, type an abbrevieted version of your first post in it.
2) be swamped with a massive amount of posts ABOUT THE SAME THING.
3) repeat in future.
(sorry if im being a bit harsh but i myself have awnserwed this question many times before, just search in future!)
Thank you all for your answers, and sorry for making you repeat yourselves.
I suppose that this is an obvious topic for discussion that many people naturally want to know about.
So why not post a summary of it all somewhere where people can find it without having to mine the forums? I searched the FAQ for WM5, Upgrade, Windows Mobile 5, in various combinations and nothing came up.
The bluetooth problems are a little scary though if the XDA is to be used as a GPS, connected to the antenna via bluetooth.
Anyhow, thanks again.
Hic
You can try, it is easy to downgrade, not compelex as in the instruction.
1. Change to bootloader mode, connect USB run Ship file,
2. After the instaltion procces finished, softreset your BA.
3. The first start maybe get mistake, cause ExtraRom could be changed, softreset again, your BA will run in a pure state, unhide ExtraROM-softreset, copy all files in the ExtraROM of Ship file (extract from Ship file) to the ExtraROM, you can also change ExtraRom as you want.
4. Hardreset---everything is OK.
Wzaatar
Very nice post you did there old chap, thanks. You almost got me to try it all over again.
I use the ROM in my signature and I find it great apart from the odd problem but that could be from the 50+ apps I have on it.
Go for it...
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
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OK, I'll try to give you a different slant on things....
WM5 utilises persistent storage (as stated above) which means that, should you find yourself in the unfortunate position that your BA has run out of juice you'll retain all your data (even the RAMDisk contents contrary to some other peoples posts). This is not the case in WM2003SE. If you let the battery run down in WM2003SE it's adios amigo! And start all over again.
WM2003SE while quite stable, is not perfect, especially once you have several apps installed and use it aggressively. WM5, while technically only in beta for this device (as they are mostly hacked/patched/ported ROM's) can prove to be a very stable platform. I have used nearly every version of WM5 on this forum to try and find the 'right' one... and I use my BA constantly, for business purposes and satnav guidance.
Comparing the 2 OS's is like comparing Windows XP and Vista... XP is a proven system, Vista is not, so direct comparison would be unfair to either... as for performance, with the tweaks now found in the newer WM5 ROM's I find my BA responds as well, if not better, than with WM2003SE, battery consumption is a little higher but that can be resloved with any of the CPU throttling apps available...
I wholeheartedly recommend the AKU 2.6 version of Helmi's ROM. I went away on business recently with WM2003SE installed and while away flashed this version of the ROM. My reason for being back with WM2003SE prior to this was the sluggishness of my BA after a while of running WM5. During my absence the Page Pool fix reared its head and all seemed to be good in the world. While AKU3.2 is the newest version of WM5 it has inherent compatability issues with much of the software available for WM5, even Microsoft's own such as Voice Command (an app I actually make use of!). The AKU2.6 ROM doesn't have these issues, and with the paging fix does not become sluggish at all.
9 weeks on and my system has only frozen once, and that was with a 'hacked' piece of software so I don't blame the system... I have not had to reflash once, and I honestly don't remember having to soft reset... I have yet to find a WM5 compatible app which doesn't work with it, and I use it day in, day out.
In short, I jumped on the WM5 bandwagon some time agao and was very disillsusioned at one point, so much so that I returned to WM2003SE... However I missed the smoother GUI, the much better handling of popups and alerts, the tighter integration with Outlook, the better operation of ActiveSync and so forth, so I came back to the fold, and I will not be downgrading again...
If you use Push Email anything after AKU2 (or is it 2.3?) is a Godsend, and believe me, the overall feel of the OS is much smoother, it feels like a 'pocket pc', rather than a really gucci phone!!
I use my BA to play media, read newsfeeds, browse the web, check/send email, and all the other stuff my mates do on their laptops, and if you have the right settings for your provider there should be no issues with connectivity... I have A2DP set up as well so I have a stereo BT headset for music/video etc... I run TomTom, Garmin Que, OziExplorer...
Oh! And I use it as a PDA/Organiser, my life is on that brick, and believe me, it gets hammered!!
I also have an XDA Exec now and to be honest I prefer the BA... although I do love my IQ (but Smartphone is a whole different kettle of fish)!!
I hope this gratuitous plug of WM5 helps sway your decision
I personally like WM5. The issue for me, and the reason I bought the SX66 in the first place, was screen size and muscle. Alot of the affordable WM5 devices out have small screens compared to what I am used to in a PDA. I cannot afford and Jasjar (wish I could) so I looked for something with a decent screen size and processing power.
The SX66 was the only choice for me, EXACTLY because I could flash it too WM5 Haven't looked back since. I run my games (Morphgear - SNES), work with my files without having to squint too much, play my music and get phone calls. Coolest thing in the world.
I have compared it side by side with the 8125 and the windows Treo, it kept up easy enough. Out did them in some area's, lost in one (no camera)... but in the end its just as functional as the new ones.
Flash it and see!
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
hi Daeljan,
Just reiterating what people has said before
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy.
-- if this is what you need, then you definitely need to upgrade to latest WM5 (Helmi, Xplode - both are great). The sole idea of "persistent storage" itself is a must to upgrade. I am using IIs (Helmi's rom) and I actually found my BA is more stable than when I used 2003SE. I had this hard reset issue when I pressed the green button to receive phone call. It annoyed the hell out of me. It happened to me about 3 times... Now this problem is gone. Just imagine yourself is out of town for a business trip and suddenly our "stable 2003SE" hard reset by itself and the back up file is at home in your pc... what a bum huh? it happened to me.
I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
-- This is a subjective comment from me, I think the current version of WM5 out here are good enuf. I dont think it will "mature" too much cause people WILL be busy playing with WM6. As far as I know, more and more developers make new softwares for WM5/6 and less make them for 2003.
Yes, WM5 still has some issues now, but I have not found 1 piece of software that is perfect. even 2003SE had issues. However, these are acceptable issues (for me anyway).
Just a happy user of WM5 and I would never go back to 2003SE (unless I want to sell my beloved BA, then i might have to flash it back to factory rom ).
If you want to wait, dont wait for WM5... wait for a more stable WM6.
Like other happy users, I still have hopes the geniuses from xda-dev would find a way to make WM6 work on BA... whatever solution that is...
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WM5 allows me to install apps to my storage cards - very useful! There is also the "device lock" feature which has saved me $$$ in phone bills from calls I didnt make.
I have owned my Tilt for about 7 months and have always stuck with the stock ROMs. Extremely poor signal strength in my area has led me to try new radios, which, basically, entailed that I go all in on the ROMs. Ultimately, I had to revert to the current WM6.0 AT&T Stock ROM because there were just too many problems.
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
1) HardSPL - Jaberwok has a solution for the White Screen. One of the MIDDLE powered-on steps is to remove your SIM and SD Cards. It is not possible on a Tilt (at least) to remove the sim while the unit is on. I would respectfully as that Jaberwok update his Page 1 to clarify when the SIM Card should be removed. As a note, the problem is that if you unlock the sim card slot the unit freezes and tells you it will reboot when you lock it. If you leave it unlocked the unit wont boot. If there the SIM card really needs to be out, it would be great if the instructions were reshuffled so that they don't give the impression that the SIM card is to be removed from any state other than a power off, with the door of the empty chamber locked.
2) AT&T Settings - I had decided to settle on Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM as it seemed to be one of the newer ones. The AT&T connectivity customization which runs was not correct (for the United States at least). The web might connect ok via MEdia Net, but nothing else would - preferring to go to ISP (which had isp.cingular). Attempting to change these settings to mirror the Stock AT&T settings did not provide any relief. There was no way to check messages. Perhaps part of the Wiki could explain how to take anyone's custom ROM, and get it to work on the AT&T network. Checking messages would result in a "dialing error" (no matter whether the advanced connection settings were set to MEdia Net for all uses, or the values were changed to mirror the wap.cingular settings).
3) Diamond - The master ROM sticky from the Wiki is a great resource. I was afraid to try Dutty's Diamond ROM because I had no idea if Diamond was a new phone, which would then cause me to brick mine.
4) Hard Resets - All of the installation instructions, whether on the individual cooker's Post 1, or in the Rom Wiki, are fairly inconsistent on when a Hard Reset is needed. Many posts on the forum indicate Problem X -> oh did you hard reset -> yeah that worked. An example of the vagueness is: Should I hard reset before I flash HardSPL? before I flash a Radio? before a flash a ROM? and then all of the above but using "after". Unless you are a cook, cooking your favorite apps into a rom, a Hard Reset is an awful bitter pill. If there are steps which do not require a Hard Reset, it would be of great benefit to know those.
5) Radio - Would love to know if I can flash a radio without a Hard Reset afterwards. Would also love to know if I can flash a radio into the stock AT&T ROM.
6) HardSPL Post 1 - Would love to see a line about whether you need to do anything different if you already have a different HardSPL installed.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
Of course, if anyone out there is also honestly willing to help with the underlying problem, I would love for some help ... I just want to get the best radio I can on my phone. If there is a ROM out there which is right for the AT&T Tilt (meaning, the AT&T connectivity settings are correct, and the keyboard is properly mapped), which has a better radio, I would dearly love to know about it.
Thanks for reading.
Re Hard resets.
Most cooked roms require you to do an additional hard reset after the device has been flashed and restarted.
This is simply something that people have learnt from experience.
The only other times you hard reset after:
1) Phone simply won't respond after trying everything
2) You've installed something and it has screwed your settings beyond any chance of recovery
3) Your rom has got cluttered after loads of installs and uninstalls... and you need to "clean" your rom but still want to keep the same one.
(But I agree that "first post" maintenance would be really handy - but the rom chefs are busy cooking - someone else should volunteer to update their first three posts.
OK But to Start all my answers were learned FROM reading and searching. Just FYI.
1) I can't really answer this. I didn't have the write screen problem.
2) If I recall correctly just about the majority of people here use MEdiaNet for their connection. There are a couple people I remember saying that they use the ISP, and they just simply changed the setting manually. If you get it to work, I'd be happy to help you create a CAB for it.
3) Rest assured that even though the Diamond is a new phone if the ROM is posted in the Kaiser Forum. Its "ok to use it on your phone. If you are worried you can wait until a couple people try it and say "This Works great" Then you can look at their signature and see they are using a Kaiser.
4) The most common answer it After a ROM flash right at when you See the "Tap to Begin" Screen.
5) I never Hard Reset after I flash a radio. I flash so much though. People recommend you flash the radio first, I've done it both ways. I Personally don't notice a difference. Questions about What radio will work with Stock AT&T ROMs, Which I believe are still WM 6.0, are toroughly answered in AllTheWays Ultimate radio Thread.
6) That would be nice. Would get more notice by the Ones in the KNow about those things if this qustion was posting in that specific thread.
7) Anyone should feel free to edit and add to the WIKI.
8) IIRC shogunmark's Death is an AT&T Tilt based ROM. But the Tytn II based Roms work fine on the Tilt. You just have to install the Tilt Keyboard Fix and Soft Reset.
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I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
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I too have been a Tilt owner for 8 months, first came across this site last Nov. At that point, the Kaiser forum consisted of speculation on when the Tilt would appear in the US. I was a lurker for 6 months before I joined and posted my first question. Until then I searched ( Forum and Google ) for all my info and never, I mean never did I not find an answer to my questions.
Yes it took time and perseverance but the information was ALWAYS there.I will steadfastly stand here and argue with anyone who says " I searched and found nothing " and tell them " you searched, got bored, it was too much trouble, and you wanted instant gratification ", that is why you are posting. ( Except genuine questions on newly released items ).
That is the real reason why it is so difficult to search. Redundant posts and lazy people who think their time is too valuable to search. Want an example?
JimmyMcGee, over 1000 posts, 0 new threads
Harkadenn, 330 posts over forty new threads, 36 in one month alone, before he finally sold his phone. He had a problem, started a thread
One person, multiply that times 1000 people who think that we should just answer their questions as they come up, and not flame them to search.
I will do the math, 36000 new threads per month, you think it is impossible to search through crap now? It was not always like this, it was made like this.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
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Everyone has the ability to edit the Wiki. The information in this site evolves. ( see the new info about how different Spls affect your phone)The problem with the Wiki is that the people with the info mostly don't use it, the people looking for info do. Do not leave it up to everyone else. Every member has the ability and thus the responsibility to correct or update any information they feel is wrong or misguiding in the Wiki.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
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Yes we were all new at one time. Many of us searched (eight months, 200 posts, 2 new threads ) any too many didn't ( which is why we are talking about this ) . But don't blame the people flaming redundant thread starters( the people padding their post counts as you put it ). The remedy starts with you and me.
Now take the answers you get in this thread and add them to the Wiki for all others.
ok so i have a wizard.. a g3, and i've done it all now.. i've tried all the roms (amp, snn, hornet.. brushed)
and with each came it's flaws, whether it was battery consumption, irratic or unintended operation, or missed calls.
i finally settled on a rom (TNT something or other) that i liked, i liked the rainbow at the top giving battery status.. altho it began to chew the battery like a hungry dog on food scraps. and then i checked my voicemail, just arbitrarily.. EIGHT NEW MESSAGES. turns out the whole world was calling, and leaving voicemails, and i was completely unaware! (yet another rom busted)
i'm in the process (actually just finished) reflashin my original cingular rom back on the phone.. i have thrown in the towel.
so i have started this thread, to see, if one of the mega-brains around here has some ideas for me.
i read somewhere that changing radios might help.. but i don't understand why i have to change radios; this one worked before i started dickin with this phone!
so the question is: should i have gone forward with this radio changing, would it have really helped? or is every rom out there just too buggy to deal with? am i really better off attempting to cook my own, or should i just leave the whole damn thing alone and upload HTC home customizer and smartskey, like i had back in 2006..?
i mean i've lost everything at one point or another; stability went away with some roms (crashing everywhere), most every rom lost the MMS capability (could send, never receive), most every rom lost the ability to send an email from an SMS (Which was big for me, but i think it was related to wm6) now the rom i'm using (which is not the one in my signature) doesn't receive calls, missed calls, voicemails, and most text messages.
was all that i have learned on XDA a bust, or is there ONE MORE TWEAK that i needed to perform that would have made my phone... a phone again?
I would just keep looking until you find a rom that suits your needs.
I've used these two roms for some time and both work realy well with my G3 Wizard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345205&highlight=wm5se
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395173
The first if you like cube thingy, the second I use now because it is very very stable, good battery life 2-3 days of use and 5+ days on standby.
Never missed a call, loads of memory and storage I can not fault it at all.
P.s. my radio is 02.07.10
I'm with the original poster, I have a G3 wizard and almost ALWAYS miss phone calls, NEVER get informed of messages, and I can't justify the inability of the phone to work as a phone for the gadget end of the deal. I have the TNT WM 6.1 build 20273.1.3.3, Radio 2.71.11
OS 11.0.4.0
ipl\spl 2.26
I'm with the original poster, I have a G3 wizard and almost ALWAYS miss phone calls, NEVER get informed of messages, and I can't justify the inability of the phone to work as a phone for the gadget end of the deal. I have the TNT WM 6.1 build 20273.1.3.3, Radio 2.71.11
OS 11.0.4.0
ipl\spl 2.26
The general consensus here (this issue has been discussed over and over in this forum) is that radio 2.19.11 is the most stable, and should solve your missed calls/messages problem. It solved mine.
By all means, Cook your own ROM. It's the only way to get the ROM you want and it's not that hard. It only took me downloading and flashing 2 ROMs before I said "to heck with this I'm cooking my own".
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you say if i were to have gone to the 2.19 radio i would have finally beeen happy? i mean missed MMS messaging and phone calls and voicemails and all?
what about decreased cell phone reception i have read about?
LIke little girls!!!!!
I Think, I saw, I read, PERFORM a HARD WORK AND DO IT THEN post your results!!! crappy thread.
bhhahahahaha
+que PPC:
i have followed this website for a year or two now, and despite having rarely posted any replies or any type of correspondance, i have noticed you tend to reply on most every thread, often with good info. i have also noticed, however, that most readers and junior/noobs take offense to what you say, but i have read so much of your work that i actually do not. i did just find your post to the first (and likely only) thread i've ever started to be terribly humorous! it is truely in line with a comment you might make. thanks for the help!
Hahahahaha
Wow i heard this too much too!
Hehehe maybe if you are a junior not a n00b understand the point!?
Why does the beginers here thinks this kind of sayings about me? cause they dont investigate and obviously becomes Lazy! thats why we are experimenting here lots of threads that dont has much sense why? cause dont search....
as you see it... im memeber since 2006 and im not a knowledge guy! BTW my work is too light for the development here if many people thinks this kind of toughts maybe they need to examinate again their questions.
I help to everybody but this kind of questions have made once...
Be cool men Why you dont join us since 2006or 7 and now 1 or two years ago you do it? heard about people is nothing fare of this site why?
cause there is no a way or a threat that allow to blame somebody imagine that the BLAME THREAD jajaja you have your OWN point of view cause you reed waht you wanted.
I had the same issues... missed calls, voicemail, text message alerts not appearing all due to one thing, wm6 and 6.1. One thing that helped me out was to have data connection (GPRS/EDGE) turn off automatically after a set ammount of time and BAM! no more missed calls. Advanced Config program will do it easily or GB-SOFT Tweak. Hope that helps! Also, 2.19.11 radio only helps a little also....
I had the same issues... missed calls, voicemail, text message alerts not appearing all due to one thing, wm6 and 6.1.
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Talk about jumping to conclusions. I am using WM6 and since I loaded radio 2.19.11 I NEVER have missed calls or messages....
When I got my phone and it had WM5 it was the worst performing PocketPC I've ever had. Now, with WM6 it is the BEST performing PocketPC I've ever had.
joemanb said:
Talk about jumping to conclusions. I am using WM6 and since I loaded radio 2.19.11 I NEVER have missed calls or messages....
When I got my phone and it had WM5 it was the worst performing PocketPC I've ever had. Now, with WM6 it is the BEST performing PocketPC I've ever had.
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YUP!
Same goes here for me too!
New Phone
Don't you just wish you had a new phone whenever you wanted? I do.
Every time I flash a new ROM (and I flash OFTEN) I get a brand new phone to play with. (I'm not an addict, I just do it because it's fun )
If I just wanted a phone that worked I could use any non-smart phone. They all have PIM's now and lots of them have QWERTY keyboards.
I agree that there does not seem to be any perfect ROMS and that statement includes the OEM's. A complex device makes it nearly impossible for everything to be perfect (just look at the desktop version of Windows!)
Sometimes I too get frustrated when I flash the latest and greatest and find out it's missing something I "need" and have to start the process all over.
But, when I can afford my new Fuze, I'll still be here screwing with it!
Just my 2 cents.
(Hi! I'm Rob and I'm a ROM flashing addict....)
joemanb said:
Talk about jumping to conclusions. I am using WM6 and since I loaded radio 2.19.11 I NEVER have missed calls or messages....
When I got my phone and it had WM5 it was the worst performing PocketPC I've ever had. Now, with WM6 it is the BEST performing PocketPC I've ever had.
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Well....... I never had missed calls with wm5 but the os generally performed poorly so it's a matter of what you value more having missed calls or better os performance. No jumping to conclusions here. I have trouble shooted this issue for several months. And I'm not the only one one with missed calls while data connection is active. Do and search and see the countless threads on this repeated issue. Plus, it could be a provider related issue but seems to be with both at&t and tmobile us customers. Glad you don't have issues though...
yeah see
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Well....... I never had missed calls with wm5 but the os generally performed poorly so it's a matter of what you value more having missed calls or better os performance. No jumping to conclusions here. I have trouble shooted this issue for several months. And I'm not the only one one with missed calls while data connection is active. Do and search and see the countless threads on this repeated issue. Plus, it could be a provider related issue but seems to be with both at&t and tmobile us customers. Glad you don't have issues though...
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i think you are right because.. there's something that is different from 5 to 6. for some reason my gay AT&T needs to switch data connections to do different things. like if you connect to ATT data to surf PIE lets say.. then you decide to send an MMS.. it will have to unconnect then reconnect..? and wm6.1 rarely decides to do that on it's own (like when someone sends you a picture message)
By blaming your problems on WM6, you're jumping to conclusions...You really don't know what's causing your problems. If it was WM6 then I'd be having problems too, but I'm not, so how could it be WM6?
I could say that it must be your connection settings that is causing you problems when ATT switches connections for an MMS, but then I'd be jumping to conclusions even though that's a more likely cause than WM6 having a blanket problem.