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Hi, I am very new to the cellphone/ smartphone modding scene. My friend recently decided to buy a new phone so we had been looking for a good phone for him and me, so he decided either tilt or iphone. I personally think the iphone is neat, but the lack of 3rd party programs w/o jailbreak, and no keyboard (i must have a full qwerty keyboard) is a huge turn off. We both have att, so he went to the store one day and came back with the 16g iphone. He took it back the next day... so he traded it for the tilt. Well I played around with it and I bought mine the next day (this is like 4 days ago). Since then I have done quite a few things... such as find out that there is NO drivers for the gfx card... apparently none of the reviews actually came out and stated that... "sluggish at times" is not "NO VIDEO DRIVERS!!". I have also flashed about 15 times or so, tried all sorts of cabs and whatnot. Right now I am running the L26 Diamondv3 rom. Anyways since i know we don't have drivers we must make do with what we have. But if I am going to be paying an extra 30 a month for unlimited data, i might as well use it. I know that i won't be able to play any games other than very very simple 2d games. But I was hoping i would be able to at least watch youtube videos. Well, watch videos where i can actually see what is happening (not the low quality mobile youtube with horrible sound). I have tried flashvideobundle with the tcmp w/e it is plugin. It worked alright but not as well as I had hoped. I have also looked into coreplayer, but 1.) not freeware 2.) apparently dTV doesn't work anymore so you have to use DirectDraw which tears.
My dad has an iphone and i can compare his quality using edge to mine using hsdpa... of course the tilt loses...
Ok. Now onto the point. Since there isn't really any other nice phones out there (that i know of, please correct me if i'm wrong) that have a large qwerty keyboard, not one that my thumb presses 4 buttons at once.. I think I will have to stick with the tilt. But if I am, i want to be able to use $30 a month in internet. I am using opera mobile beta for my browser, but i'd also like to watch decent quality vids. So...
Does anyone know anything that I might have missed in my digging around. Any tweaks for coreplayer that you might have found that i could look into purchasing it. Or maybe something to do with flashvideobundle.
Another thing is, is that i paid $400 for this phone... and a two year contract. So... I really need this phone to work, very well.. even if it doesn't have drivers.
This brings me to the second part of my post. Since I have spent $450 w/ tax... Should i keep this phone, maybe hope HTC makes drivers/ gets sued / whatever (which probably wont happen)... Or should I take it back and invest in a different phone? My old phone is an lg Chocolate KG800 (not american version) It just has a numberpad. My phone before that was a bb with full qwerty keyboard which i fell in love with. Does anyone know a phone that my suffice either until something else comes out, (which i would need around a $100-150 ish phone) or something that i could just go ahead and buy, and be happy with. Two phones I saw earlier was the Black Jack II and the BB Curve These would probably work until something really nice comes out
I know this is an HTC site and the Kaiser subsection, but from what I read not very many people are happy with HTC... So if you could please give me an unbiased opinion on my situation i would greatly appreciate it.
Thanx , Especially to those who cooked all sorts of goodies for me to play with these past few days
I bought this phone thinking i would use gps, but i barely do!
point is, really really think about what u will actually use, vs what would be nice to have.
The tilt/kaiser will surpass, but even though its subpar at playing videos/games its still solid device.
I would love to play a game seamlessly, but then again, the only game id play is like bejeweled at the toilet. And kaiser/tilt plays it seamlessly too! FYI, With coreplayer, videos will play smoothly, and its currently being updated with flash support.(There talking to adobe and all that stuff, check out corecodec.com forums!)
A good phone w/ a slide out qwerty wont be out for a few months, and if ur planning on getting a deal with a carrier u can add a year to that.
So, if it was me and
-I want to get a good deal with a carrier
-I thought real hard and found out i really dont play doom on my phone that much.
Id get the kaiser
otherwise, if
-I have about a grand to spend on a phone
I would wait a couple months and purchase a nextgen phone.
Sony Xperia sounds nice!
Oh yeah, dont be a hater of htc because they messed up. They already do more than what other companies will do for their customers.(Offer a free Wm6.1 update, etc) To bad people dont realize that. Alot of people here expect to be spoonfed by a company thats not obligated too.
On, The GPS issue , i thought it would be nice, but I got a gps a few weeks ago so i haven't really used it. I am a college student so I need some sort of quick on the fly , yet simple note taking. So I was thinking the tilt would work. and for the most part it does. But anyways, Actually the original phone i was going to get would have been the xperia, then i saw the tilt. since they are both made by HTC I figured that it'd be probably the same device... but now i know it probably has drivers.
And I guess HTC has done some good for their customers, but what kind of company releases a $400 smartphone without drivers?...
BinaryMaestro said:
Another thing is, is that i paid $400 for this phone... and a two year contract.
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Holy crap! One of the reasons I'm not too upset about the driver issue is because I paid ~175 for this phone. I dont know man. If you ask me, if you going to dish out that much, you might as well wait and see what HTC Diamond has to offer once/if it comes out in the US. I haven't been following the Diamond too well so I'm not even sure. Dont get me wrong, this phone is really good. When it comes to functionality and availability of support (XDA) and apps (XDA again), its really the way to go. GPS, 3g, qwerty, a dozen chefs making dozens of ROMs, a dev community taking the best of other devices to work with Tilts, and so on. These are the reasons I havent sold this phone. I say do more research and look into phones that are coming up, so I say wait. If you can find a tilt for cheaper than 450, maybe in the 200 range, then keep it, but 450....? Damn. If it helps, I got mine at BestBuy with a contract...good luck
Thats my 2ยข.
the money is ome of my biggest concerns... if it did onlycost only a hundred or a a little more.. then it would be like thats sucks.. oh well... but since i dont curently have a job at the moment (this is usibg half of my graduation money) so i really dont have the money to blow awa. my friend got a 100 percebt refund so i can to. but the internet feature is really nice. in my opinion not as good for normal browsing as the iphone, but i dont think it is worthpaying 450 plus the extra 30 for something that is mediocre..
(this was typed on a tilt on my way to clas... the text was really lagy on the input, but that could be the browser)
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the money is ome of my biggest concerns... if it did onlycost only a hundred or a a little more.. then it would be like thats sucks.. oh well... but since i dont curently have a job at the moment (this is usibg half of my graduation money) so i really dont have the money to blow awa. my friend got a 100 percebt refund so i can to. but the internet feature is really nice. in my opinion not as good for normal browsing as the iphone, but i dont think it is worthpaying 450 plus the extra 30 for something that is mediocre..
(this was typed on a tilt on my way to clas... the text was really lagy on the input, but that could be the browser)
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Have you tried youtubeplay and opera mini?
I really like the Tilt, but the WM OS is just not for me. I really, really just hate it.
BUT, before i get rid of it, i wanted to know, is there any hope for the near future of running a custom Andoid rom on this thing? not running it within WM, i'm talking about full blown Android stand alone?
Because if thats the case, i might just throw it in my closet for a few months.
if not, it better start packing its bags tonight!
Sorry for OOT, but I have the same feeling towards the OS, bro.
I hate all M$ product so much (make it PC or PPC), but in the end I HAVE TO USE THEM WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
Just for the sake of compatibility with so many other person I live and interact with everyday.
You gotta learn to face it mate, hence, the frustration. I knew the feeling.
Actually there are alternatives like palm and apple, but only few uses or supports them. Which will make, in the end, worse frustration.
Android
Hi. See this link if you haven't yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
I'm sure it's a question of time 'till a standalone version comes out.
Cheers,
Draco
Android will be further down the road but it will be even later when we see a full-blown OS for the Tilt/Kaiser.
Once an Android OS is available though I will be flashing. I cannot stand WinMo either.
Curious but are you going to the iPhone instead?...I don't believe there are any other choices unless you're just going with a regular, non-smart/ppc phone.
Its going to be at least as long as it takes to release the first Android Phone to the general public, once thats done then the platform will open up more and be more accessible to us devs. I think Android is going to be amazing once its up and running properly on the MSM7200 chip set. But your best bet would be to hold on to your kaiser and put it in a drawer some place and buy another phone if you don't like the OS and the GUI that comes with it, if you can afford to do so. I am not a fan boy but if you don't need your phone as a business tool then the new 3G Iphone is the way to go in "MY" opinion (please do not turn this into an Apple VS Mac thread) Bottom line is HTC makes great business phones that they did a great job marketing as a general consumer "media" device which it is in some ways. But if your holding onto your kaiser in hopes of Android making everything perfect then your bubble needs to be burst..
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Curious but are you going to the iPhone instead?...I don't believe there are any other choices unless you're just going with a regular, non-smart/ppc phone.
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There are many other phones out there beside the HTC and Iphones Nokia makes some amazing phones that would blow the kaiser and Iphone out of the water! Also the new Sprint "Instinct"(i think thats the name) is also a really cool touch screen based device! Soon everything phone is going to be touch screen only, the way that the general consumer thinks touch screens are so High tech and cool....
Apple sold 1 Million phones in 2 days so people must like something about it. Personally if they upgraded the camera and some other things I would be dropping my kaiser in a second for it but I'll wait for the 3rd generation its going to be sick! Last note and I'll stop! Windows Mobile 7 is going to be a radical change for the kaiser and other Windows Mobile based phones so It may be worth it to hold on to your kaiser until that is released
Thanks for the replies fellas. I have been a very happy Symbian S60 user for about 1.5 years now. I bought a Tilt a few months back because i love to tinker, and the Tilt is the Closest competition to the N95, so of course i had to get it. My first and last WM phone though.
My main phone is a Nokia N95-4, and i swap out every once in a while with an N82.
You hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a "i get emails all day, and need to open word documents while on lunch" persons phone. but for me, its so damn frustrating and boring, i want to rip out my eyes. Thing is, take all that away, and your left with a not very good phone.
I just hope there is interest in the Tilt still for someone to make an Android rom by the time it comes out.
All im going to say is that if it werent for XDA-DEV, i would have chucked it out of my window, because the factory HTC roms are for the birds.
Have to comment on this one!
well, first of all i'm not sure our Kaisers can handle WM7 when it comes out. I don't like the current OS we're using and wanna say that i had a chat with a couple of people here on the forums and decided not to get an iPhone (although i still like it) and hold on to my Kaiser and wait for Android. It will take time, though..
I wish i needed a second phone.
I'd love my Tilt even more if the screen was just a little bit better about where i touch it... I do IT for a small company and there are 3 iphones, a lot of junk phones and my Tilt... Tilt does the most, iPhone is the easiest to use.
If you could buy a better screen for the Tilt, I'd throw down an extra $200 on it.
Back to the topic, I'd also recommend saving it, with stuff like this you will never get what it is worth from anyone and if nothing else, you have a tinker toy.
If you dont like kaiser and can afford, u might as well sell it off now. Its nearly an year since its release and that is the approximate life of a handset ( in terms of specification) .Futher down the year htc pro will be released, with better specs and that handset will be better suited for wm7 or android. Both these OS may not work great in kaiser. ( but for me kaiser has been the best handset ever ( thanks to this forum and hang.tuah)
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There are many other phones out there beside the HTC and Iphones Nokia makes some amazing phones that would blow the kaiser and Iphone out of the water! Also the new Sprint "Instinct"(i think thats the name) is also a really cool touch screen based device! Soon everything phone is going to be touch screen only, the way that the general consumer thinks touch screens are so High tech and cool....
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D'oh!...forgot Symbian phones.
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<snip>You hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a "i get emails all day, and need to open word documents while on lunch" persons phone. but for me, its so damn frustrating and boring, i want to rip out my eyes. Thing is, take all that away, and your left with a not very good phone. <snip>
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Well - obviously everyone sees something from a different perspective.
As a phone - the tilt is no better or worse than any other phone i have had. Remembering of course that cell signals have gotten better and more prevalent over time (I was an original Cellular One customer).
I do support for software so I need access to email on a pretty constant basis - I would have to get to the hotel immediately and check email - I would constantly have to have my laptop with me to check email to see if there were any problems brewing. I no longer have that "attchment" to the laptop. I have a freedom with this phone that I have never had before.
The fact that I can take it to the gym and listen to bluetooth headphones and get my music PLUS!
The fact that I can watch videos on the plane PLUS!
I can text and take and send pictures PLUS!
The fact that I no longer have to carry TOMTOM with me (the unit) when I am on the road and I ALWAYS have TOMTOM with me PLUS!
The fact that I can now whip out my phone and play a game when i am stuck for a few minutes and bored PLUS!
The fact that I can now find the local theater and see what is playing easily or the local Mexican restaurant PLUS!
The fact that I can get weather anywhere in the world easily PLUS!
The fact that I can get/add/change airline tickets easily PLUS!
The fact that I can add new programs to the phone easily PLUS!
So - from MY perspective - this is a drop dead incredible wonderful cannot do without it tool that makes my life better and more fun. It will only get replaced when there is something better available that does it truly better/faster/cheaper than my TILT.
From my vantage point,
Bill
Somehow, i really really doubt that... WM7 might use graphics a whole lot, and our phone doesnt have acceleration... We can just hope people can cook WM7 with drivers... Plus its still 6 months away, android is our best latest choice...
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Have to comment on this one!
well, first of all i'm not sure our Kaisers can handle WM7 when it comes out. I don't like the current OS we're using and wanna say that i had a chat with a couple of people here on the forums and decided not to get an iPhone (although i still like it) and hold on to my Kaiser and wait for Android. It will take time, though..
I wish i needed a second phone.
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Thanks for the replies fellas.
My main phone is a Nokia N95-4, and i swap out every once in a while with an N82.
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Have to ask, if you have the better nokia phones, why not just link a N810 tablet to your phone via bluetooth ? They aren't bad little devices. Except they run a version of linux. But there are apps that let you do alot of what you need a PPC/Laptop for.
I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
I have to say I'm loving mine and think it's a good thing (in a funny way) that there are features missing. We get to look forward to updates to a system that has really great foundations.
Having said that there is a bit of a danger in thinking that every missing feature and every imaginable improvement will make it into imminent updates. MS are in this for the long haul and some improvements won't materialise over the lifetime of the initial batch of phones.
Copy/paste will be coming soon but we just don't know other features. We can just hope. So, if you can't live without tethering it might be worth waiting until early next year to see if news emerges on a timescale.
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I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
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I still have my i637 jack. I suggest you wait like me, We got to atleast see if Microsoft is gonna even mention addressing the other issues besides the ones they say they will fix in early 2011. Although im personally seeing are they gonna stay true to their words by listening to their supporters.
Jeimygirl said:
I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
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You have 14 days with T-Mobile to return the phone and get a new one or reverse your upgrade if you choose to. You pretty much have nothing to lose. Rather than asking everyone else what they think, the best thing to do is always to just get the phone yourself, try it out and see if you like it.
That being said, the HD2 ran an unfortunately unfriendly and antiquated operating system that was not designed for nor optimized for the HD2. Even HTC's Sense could not save it. Sad because its still a top-notch phone hardware wise. Which is why Windows Phone 7 was built from the ground up and optimized for hardware matching the HD2 and beyond. If you've seen any videos online, you should notice how dramatically smoother and seamless the whole experience is.
When people talk about about how the HD7 is just an HD2 in a new outfit, that is totally correct. It is the HD2 essentially, hardware wise. But the outfit is just as important as the hardware, and Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile 6.5, not by a long shot.
Try out the phone, if it turns out that its not for you, then please take advantage of the return policy and try out a different phone. That's the only way you'll really get a real opinion.
I will be jumping ship on November 8 over to the HD7 and T-Mobile. The Evo, as awesome a hardware as it is, simply does not have the 'outfit' to match it. Windows Phone 7 provides the polish, features, and speed that I need, and I can't wait.
I'm going to get the HD7 on Nov 8th as well. I've used Android since the G1 and ave had just about every Android phone T-Mo offers (except the Behold 2). Right now I have the myTouch 4G, and while it is an awesome phone, it's not doing it for me. I really like how WP7 looks. I also have a Zune HD, and I like the software on it, and WP7 is very similar.
If you are prepared to wait for the new OS to mature and for "jailbreaks and hacks" to become available then go for it. If you want to be abe to tweak from day 1 and have every possible feature that is out there then stay with 6.5 or go for android. I have a horrible feeling these forums are going to fill up with people moaning about lack of this that or the other feature. I myself like the interface so much that I want to be part of the WP7 thing from day 1 hence I have my HD7 already and am lovin it warts an all!!
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You have 14 days with T-Mobile to return the phone and get a new one or reverse your upgrade if you choose to. You pretty much have nothing to lose. Rather than asking everyone else what they think, the best thing to do is always to just get the phone yourself, try it out and see if you like it.
That being said, the HD2 ran an unfortunately unfriendly and antiquated operating system that was not designed for nor optimized for the HD2. Even HTC's Sense could not save it. Sad because its still a top-notch phone hardware wise. Which is why Windows Phone 7 was built from the ground up and optimized for hardware matching the HD2 and beyond. If you've seen any videos online, you should notice how dramatically smoother and seamless the whole experience is.
When people talk about about how the HD7 is just an HD2 in a new outfit, that is totally correct. It is the HD2 essentially, hardware wise. But the outfit is just as important as the hardware, and Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile 6.5, not by a long shot.
Try out the phone, if it turns out that its not for you, then please take advantage of the return policy and try out a different phone. That's the only way you'll really get a real opinion.
I will be jumping ship on November 8 over to the HD7 and T-Mobile. The Evo, as awesome a hardware as it is, simply does not have the 'outfit' to match it. Windows Phone 7 provides the polish, features, and speed that I need, and I can't wait.
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Kind of what he said. Buy it and see. I'm getting it because I want to be part of the new revolution of Winmo. And honestly, have found myself not to concerned about what it's lacking as hell, it still the basic things you expect in a smartphone and I'm willing to give up some the apps I've used on Winmo and Android ports to the HD2. Most of them are just because I wanted to do something and not really needed. But with a browser, slingplayer coming soon, office, phone calls, text, and Slacker for streaming radio. That pretty much rounds up the stuff that I use on a regular basis (oh just need a golfgps app) and that's it. But, I'm planning on keeping my HD2, juuust in case there is something I need. My advice, jump into and see what you think and try not to think about the very minor things you'll be missing. You might actually find that you start finding more time for real life as opposed to your virtual phone life that's wasted from having billions of apps to check. I know I will and I'm looking forward to it!
That's everyone for your opinions. I am usually one to get the new "it" thing as soon as it comes out, usually the day it comes out (well only phones) But not so much when a new phone comes out, just the next biggest thing. In this case, WinMo7. I've owned 3 Win Mo phones (SDA, Dash and HD2) Android (G1) and iPhone along with all the other basics before the SDA, and I can surely say, I like WinMo the best. I do like to completely customize my phones. I found WinMo to have the best broad range to do this. I'm not one to load my phone with apps, except to customize, which is why I don't mind the almost nothing there marketplace for WinMo.
I will probably be one of the ones jumping on the bandwagon and getting the HD7 on Monday as well. I do like their return policy, but don't like their $10-$20 restocking fee that you have if you return it. I'm sure I will end up liking the HD7. For the most part I have a love/hate relationship with my HD2. I think what I hate is WinMo6.5 because after customizing it was perfect for me. I'm sure over time the developers here will come up with ways to customize the HD7. I think I can wait. Plus, I would get the "new phone" feeling with HD7, vs getting an android which seems to never change it's basics.
Also, how is everyone getting their phones?
I'm thinking about getting it at WalMart since their price is $150 with a new 2 yr contract, (have to verify if an upgrade counts)
T-Mobile's is $250 with a 2 yr contract with a $50 mail in rebate (which I always seem to forget to mail out on time!)
Do Not Buy A W7 phone
I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
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I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
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Are you saying you don't like it?
J9HOB said:
I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
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You write and complain like a child. So I am going out on limb and say that you are not 52 years old and you haven't handled one yet. Since the screen resolution is exactly the same as HD2 and from what I have read it has the S-LCD so its even better. You are the first that I have seen to complain about the screen especially since you are an HD2 user. I guess you have the special HD2 screen no one else has.
I also doubt if you have been in and around computer for 25 years. Your complaint about Apple leads me to believe you are not being honest. Are you complaining about your HD2? You fail to mention that. You don't like Apple and believe that MS is the best platform yet you are moving away from WM6.5 and WP7 and getting an IPHONE or ANDROID?
So in conclusion you tried out an HD7(alleged) and thought the SAME EXACT SCREEN AS YOUR HD2 was crap? The WP7 OS and the Screen was so horrible that you went into a trance like state fueled by your anger towards MS that you decided to tell MS to stuff the SOLE PLATFORM you have been using for the past 25 years? Then you just tucked it away into a BIN instead of returning the phone because you could no longer stand to touch or have it in your sight.
Ahh that makes SENSE!
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You write and complain like a child. So I am going out on limb and say that you are not 52 years old and you haven't handled one yet. Since the screen resolution is exactly the same as HD2 and from what I have read it has the S-LCD so its even better. You are the first that I have seen to complain about the screen especially since you are an HD2 user. I guess you have the special HD2 screen no one else has.
I also doubt if you have been in and around computer for 25 years. Your complaint about Apple leads me to believe you are not being honest. Are you complaining about your HD2? You fail to mention that. You don't like Apple and believe that MS is the best platform yet you are moving away from WM6.5 and WP7 and getting an IPHONE or ANDROID?
So in conclusion you tried out an HD7(alleged) and thought the SAME EXACT SCREEN AS YOUR HD2 was crap? The WP7 OS and the Screen was so horrible that you went into a trance like state fueled by your anger towards MS that you decided to tell MS to stuff the SOLE PLATFORM you have been using for the past 25 years? Then you just tucked it away into a BIN instead of returning the phone because you could no longer stand to touch or have it in your sight.
Ahh that makes SENSE!
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I think you have this guy nailed.
Will the HD7 has complete functionality as it does in other countries...
Like the HTC Weather tabs, the Zune full screen photo backgrounds etc etc...
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty
Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
taruian said:
hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty
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HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...
circleofomega said:
HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...
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been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7
taruian said:
been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7
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U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..
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U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..
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flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s
Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.
taruian said:
flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s
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Again..just the same question in my head...Will Mozart be better when it comes to sound?
I actually don't even mind Mozart>>
taruian said:
Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.
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Superb man!!! all the best and lemme know ur experience!!
I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)
Honestly, i dont see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.
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I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)
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I agree with you on the screen size bit. And NExus S and all I think is out. For some very strange reason, I am done with Android..Don't like it at all after seeing WP7...don't ask y
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Honestly, i don't see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.
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Hey thanx for ur reply...But I have a little disconnect with your opinion of Omnia. I honestly think that the colours on Omnia 7 are bright and colourful and HD7 lacks that.
Look at this pic:
http://gallery.me.com/o.khademi/100025/HD7 v O7/web.jpg?ver=12896154820001
The fuschia pink looks like fuschia pink on the Omnia. But on the HD7 it looks like baby pink.
And this is the case with all the reviews I have seen on YouTube and elsewhere.
So I think I have changed my mind and am mostly going to but Omnia 7 (WHEN it hits India that is).
But thanx anyways.
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Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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hey dude...I got my HD7 and believe me, everything works like a charm.
Here is one thing you have to keep in mind: MAKE Sure all all the accounts have the country as 'US (United States)' May it be your phone's country, your Live account's country, your computer's country...
Try resetting your phone (u might lose data) and when on the next startup it asks (it asked me and I was clever to click US) just click on United States...everything else will follow...
Cheers! Hope I was helpful...PM me if you have any questions...
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I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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HTC has actually launched these phones in India before Microsoft has launched WP7 here, hence the problems.
If you have everything set to U.S. accounts, it works perfectly. I've had my TMoUS HD7 (which I picked up back home in NY) on Vodafone in Mumbai since November.
guys,
got one in dec for 15K on Craigslist from the US.. T-mobile.. since it is us, i can even use all market apps here.. couldnt be happier...
I have got a T-Mobile branded HD7 and wanted to know if any of you guys have tried 3G on HD7 (T-Mobile)?
HD7
Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?
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Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?
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Build quality's pretty solid. Just a slight notch below the HD2, but still almost on par with the best in the industry.
Audio's pretty good (download HTC's Sound Enhancer app and you can enable SRS Enhancement- makes a big difference) and video's great (as you'd expect on such a large screen). The screen's not quite as eye-popping as the AMOLED or Super LCD panels in some other WP7/Android phones, but I still prefer having the larger screen size.
Battery life is about average for a big smartphone. I typically charge it at night, so as long as it lasts for a full day of moderate to heavy use (which it does), it's fine for me. If I forget to charge, it'll last through most of a second day (of light use).
i want to buy a new laptop. i really want to get an i7 ivy bridge laptop. now finding an i7 ivy bridge ultrabook is pretty hard at this point, there arent that many out there, at least not that i can find. other things holding me back right now, Apple just announced its gonna have a 2400p display in its new macbook pro.. my gosh.. 2400p.. totally makes me want to get a mac, even tho i know nothing about their OS. do you think other companies will try to compete by putting out high resolution screens? if this is going to happen, it would be better to hold off, but will companies? and it could take them years to actually push one out..
another thing concerning me, is windows 8 is about to come out. should i be holding off? if windows 8 is going to be based hugely around touchscreens, would touchscreen laptops start coming out, if they are, i shouldnt get a non touchscreen one now.
and i also want a laptop with good fan ventilation, something that wont suffocate if it sits on my bed, which right now, seems like only the macbook would give me, because it doesnt have any fans on the bottom, does anyone know of an ultrabook that doesnt suffocate if sat on a bed? ugh what to do..
looking for advice
Nah you shouldn't buy one now.. Wait 20-30 years by that time someone should come up with a laptop that you can control with your thoughts
But seriously.. IMO you should get a laptop now.. IMO the new mac pro is not worth waiting. They are going to release the new model with 2400p display and in a few months time they are going to release an even "better" one 20g litter than the previous model ..
Right now I have a Hp DV-6 with fans on its sides and I'm pretty happy with it..
I need one now. Buy a cheap used one. Or try to rock as many cores az possible
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If you wait, then will come new solutions. In this way u never buy anything you choose. It is better to buy something now and a year or two to change.