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I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard clone) and I noticed that my battery is completely drained from my device. I can't find my AC adapter but I have my USB cable to my PC but that won't start recharing it. I recently saw a post that if your battery is completely dead, the USB cable connected to the phone cannot recharge it as it must atleast have 1000mW to charge it? I have tried to find some specs and I want to know exactly what kind of AC adapter I need for that phone? a 5v 2000mW mini USB adapter or something? Not sure what I need. Any ideas?
here is one that u can use
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AUDIOVOX-AC...7092790QQihZ017QQcategoryZ11168QQcmdZViewItem
that is the one i have for my wizard
input: 100-240v/~0.2A 50-60Hz
output: 5V
Thanks Malik05,
I saw the specs on it and it does 5V-1A output. I was looking for a dealer in Canada and it seems that most cell phone stores only have AC adapters that ONLY do 0.2-0.5A which I tried and doesn't work. I couldn't find anyone selling a 5V-1A AC adapter.
raiden said:
Thanks Malik05,
I saw the specs on it and it does 5V-1A output. I was looking for a dealer in Canada and it seems that most cell phone stores only have AC adapters that ONLY do 0.2-0.5A which I tried and doesn't work. I couldn't find anyone selling a 5V-1A AC adapter.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-TRAVEL-...ryZ15037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
there ya go, it should do the trick, if not, then try going to a tmobile store...but that eBay link should do it...
Do you guys think there is anything special to the charger? When its fully drained, my iPod charger with a mini-USB cable doesn't work either (output is listed as 5V 1.0A).
the only thing special between the wizard charger is that it needs a full 1A, not .5A when the battery is at absolute zero...as for the iPod, i dont discuss apple products, it will turn into a debate hehe...
Thanks for the link to the new dealer Malik05 but he only ships within the US. ( Not Canada ). I saw one other place that might sell an adapter on ebay but the shipping was like $28 for an ac adapter. I am getting abit worried that even an Ipod charger that DOES supply 5V-1A doesn't even charger the phone when it's batteries are completely dead. It doesn't give me much confidence that any other adapter will work. Do you have another ebay link to purchase one that will work?
iPod dosnt have the same connectors as the wizard, what exactly are you talking about?
Sorry if I caused some confusion, I'll try to clarify some things.
I'm having the same problem charging my wizard since I lost my AC adapter over the weekend. I do, however, have the charger from my iPod (which is just an AC adapter with a female USB connector). With this iPod charger and a mini-USB data cable, I used to be able to charge the phone, that is until now. The only difference I can think of, is because the phone's battery is now fully drained.
The iPod charger is listed as 5v, 1.0A and still charges my iPod (using the iPod's dock connector cable).
o okay...i just thought that ipod chargers had their own standard, but anyway..you may need the original wizard charger...becacuse ive seen this problem with Motorola phones, some RAZR phones will not charge unless it is a motorla branded charger...
Both Expansys and the swedish retailer dustin have the new dockingstation in stock. I have ordered one to be used as a computer replacement in my summer cottage. It has two usb ports and vga/video output.
//Johan
link please
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http://www.expansys.lv/p.aspx?i=145164
I received it today
It comes with no extra charger, so you have to use your old one. It has 2 usb ports, 1 vga, 1 s-video and 1 composite port. Oddly enough it has 2 mini-usb ports. One for syncing and one for charging. I thought that it would be enough with the sync port as it charges as well.
It can be abit fiddly to get the Athena in place,but otherwise it works like a charm. Now I need to figure out how to change the keyboard layout (swedish) and follow up on the mouse pointer issue. After that is sorted out I have a simplistic PC for visually impare (the text is hughe on a 17" screen).
//Johan
vzuravlo said:
http://www.expansys.lv/p.aspx?i=145164
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£69.95!!!!! What a rip-off. I know expansys are expensive but that is a joke (sorry). I think I will wait until they filter thru on to ebay.
I bought it from Dustin for SEK 1024 so I don't think it is a rip-off. They do not have a history of over charging. I suspect a device of this price class have expensive acessories. I am a bit disappointed that it doesnt come with a charger.
apd said:
£69.95!!!!! What a rip-off. I know expansys are expensive but that is a joke (sorry). I think I will wait until they filter thru on to ebay.
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On ebay is look like this, but with less posibility.
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On ebay is look like this, but with less posibility.
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One seller used to have the have them on ebay at about the same time that expansys used to have them (although I think that they didn't have the second USB port). However, it looked to me like they were withdrawn because suddenly neither expansys nor this ebay seller had any in stock at the same time. Shouldn't be long before they appear on ebay. I seem to recall they were asking about £30 for it but I could be wrong.
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It comes ..........//Johan
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Does it come with an audio out? I try to figure out how to enjoy music while using docking station.
Yes, it comes with audio out. I haven't tested it though. Someone in another thread, complained about lack of sound when using the dockingstation.
Johan
joohan said:
Yes, it comes with audio out. I haven't tested it though. Someone in another thread, complained about lack of sound when using the dockingstation.
Johan
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Waiting for the result of your testing.
It works with no problems. The sound out functions perfect!
//Johan
Hello Joohan
Does it have a slot for additional battery charging??
BigDede said:
Hello Joohan
Does it have a slot for additional battery charging??
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Yes, it does.
can someone find one a bit cheaper? I'd like it for playing around testing external hard discs and accessories with but 70 quid is ridiculous for internet prices. Must be very few of them or something.......wonder who supplies Expansys as you don't seem to see their items on Ebay.
might require 2 chargers for extra battery
The docking station has two mini-usb ports. One for sync and one for charge. When I attach the charger to the charging port, nothing happens. My conclusion is, that the extra charging port is for the extra battery. This would mean that if you want to charge both the Advantage and an extra battery, you would have to attach an extra charger to it. If this is the case, it is even more odd that the docking station didn't come with a charger.
The only explanation I could find, would be that the mini-usb has a limited power capability and wouldn't be enough to charge both unit and battery.
//Johan
Joohan
Try to insert only the battery in its slot and switch between the 2 mini USB ports then see what happens.
USB doesnt have enough amps to charge the Ameo as it is, if you look at the mains adapter its a 1 amp output, usb from pc im sure is only half of that at 500 milli amp. the second mini usb may be to attach a second mini usb to get the full charge, I have an external 2.5 HD and it comes with a usb to two mini usb to boost the current. even then it still strugles, without the external mains adapter, which is 1.4 amps.
I could be wrong, just my oppinion, But I notice this when im in the car using usb charger, it keeps everything runnning, "tomtom" but wont really charge it.
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But I notice this when im in the car using usb charger, it keeps everything runnning, "tomtom" but wont really charge it.
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This has been discussed before - it depends on the car charger you are using. The one that came with my Brodit holder happily charges the Ameo while using satnav and screen brightness on full.
Bought it for 100 euros and I like it very much!!
It's standing right here on my desk and I use it everyday. Don't want to go without anymore!!
Hi,
I just stuck here, cause I found a thread about fast usb charging. But there is no answers or solutions.
I have many htc devices. It seems that some of them has a problem with 3rd party usb chargers.
My most used device is Universal. It suck a lot of power. THis one doesn't enable usb charging at all, until you put it in sleep mode before pluging the charger.
Anyway, the same issue for Kaiser too.
The problem is, that it doesn't matter how much current is the charger able to deliver. They just use some kind of recognition of original chargers.
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
According to this pinout. It would be 2 GND of Audio side? I'm not sure that original charger use extUSB audio side to charge...? It also could be D & A pins, but I'm afraid to connect 5V to Data- pin.
Anyway, someone here have to know it.
If not, in a few days I'll try all possible combinations and post the results.
Thanks
Shef
I'd also be interested to know about this. When I charge my TYTN II via USB, it takes much longer to charge than if I charge it via the mains charger (I prefer USB since I travel a lot and it's one less charger I need to carry around).
Better still, is it possible to buy a USB cable that will charge at the same rate as the mains charger rather than messing with a USB cable with the associated risks?
Best,
Gary.
Shef said:
Hi,
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
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a usb port only supplies 500ma, while the wall charger does 1200ma as the OP has measured (although it says 1A at the back of the charger). changing a cable is not gonna superpower up your usb port.
unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
wyrm said:
unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
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good call.......with a little googling i came up with this
http://www.universaluk.com/acatalog...2_x_Type_A_to_mini_B__USB_2_0__1m__Lindy.html
tried ebay, my brief search came up with lots of unrelated results, so i gave up
I got one of those leads, came with my portable 2.5" hard drive. Just tried the lead on my Tytn 2 and it does charge almost as fast as the mains plug
Success
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
Just to be clear - you took a Motorola USB cable and shorted pins A and B (which are which by the way?) and it provides a decent current....
How do you short the pins? I've looked in the end of cable and I can hardly see the pins, let alone short them! What's the trick here or have I missed something?
Thanks,
Gary.
Shef said:
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
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Also interested in how to short the pins. I use Navizon, bluetooth HSDPA tethering, and iGuidance while on the ambulance and even my iGo 3A max rated charger can barely keep up because the tilt wont accept all of the available current.
So have anyone found a way to fast charge our ppc through usb??
Yes, that is correct. Short pins 4 & 5 (4 is normally NC) to enable fast-charging. If you do it correctly, the phone shouldn't pick up tethering, and therefore should not say "PC Connected" or the like..
The TracyAndMatt pinout is wrongly numbered. The pin assignments are correct, but the number/letter scheme they used is incorrect. True ExtUSB pinout translation to their pinout is as follows:
T & M Real ExtUSB
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Pins E D C B A = 1 2 3 4 5
Pins 1 2 3 4 5 6 = 6 7 8 9 10 11
The way I remember is that the corner opposite the angled one is where pin 1 starts (where E is on the T&M pinout) - and they go like most IEC-standard connectors, in a clock-like circular numbering scheme.
Here's a better pinout: http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extUSB_pinout.shtml
Hope this helps!
--W5i2
its the milliamps that is the problem even doubling up with a y splitter does not do much Find a charger with the most milliamps for a faster charge 1.2 amps works best and as far as i know no usb port puts out that much even if they are wired in a series. Many try to sell lower amp chargers they dont even know about it at att. if the screen is off they will charge but not well these phones are energy hogs. I must have at least twenty chargers and messed around with them... the original or one of highest amperage works for me.
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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/* A9 reports USB charging when helf AC cable in and China AC charger. */
/* Work arround: notify userspace AC charging first,
and notify USB charging again when receiving usb connected notificaiton from usb driver. *
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I find this annoying. I can't tell if my wall charger is fast charging or not because the G1 always says "AC"
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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That is not going to help HTC owners.
HTC charging cable
kiss_se said:
That is not going to help HTC owners.
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http://winhlp.com/node/855 was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
hgmichna said:
[...] was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
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Sorry, I meant to say: That is not going to help extusb owners.
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
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Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
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What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
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There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
zurpher said:
Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
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I don't know, but probably not. Apple used to use a different signalling scheme involving resistors.
Just curious, as i've just bought a European Nike, and it comes only with a 2 pin charger. Will the Polaris charger be the same? Or will i fry my Nike?
thanks in advance!
Every new HTC device uses standard mini-USB ports for charging and syncing.
So to answer your question, yes, it will work.
I had a similar question a while back. The replies might be of interest!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373631
I think any USb charger from any other cellphone manufacturer should work, the only difference would be for some is the charging time.
Okay, like a lot of people I have been watching the induction chargers with a keen eye, waiting for a reputable company to deliver a worthwhile solution.
Then I saw that the Duracell MyGrid was on sale on Amazon(.co.uk) for £19.99, with connectors costing £15.99. Brilliant! Right?
There is not a HTC Leo specific connector, but you can purchase a Micro-USB connector which will allow you to charge your HD2 via the MyGrid powermat. At this point, I was reaching for my wallet!
Before purchasing, however, I chose to see if anyone had reviewed the product. Im thankful I did...
It turns out the connector you attach to your device is permanently attached (glued I expect). This means that if you need to replace your phone, you need to buy a new connector. It also means your phone probably won't fit into car handsfree kits anymore.
Now for the killer. It is possible to disconnect the connector from the Micro-USB port, but this is by no means easy and leaves the connector pins vulnerable. This means your Micro-USB port is always in use. Want to plug your phone in on a train? Use a car kit? Use a conventional charger? SYNC/UPDATE FIRMWARE by plugging into a PC? Tough poopie!
In summary: Does an induction charger for the HTC HD2 exist? Yes. But iff you want to do anything with your phoen other than charge it, don't buy one.
powermat
http://www.powermat.com/us/receiver-door-for-htc-hd2.html
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http://www.powermat.com/us/receiver-door-for-htc-hd2.html
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Thanks.
looking on the uk part of the site they dont show the hd2 battery cover or a lot of the other things that are on the us site.
anybody got one of these powermats, how long would it take to charge the standard hd2 battery from flat?
i bought one as my usb connector was fried and out of warranty. havent used it for a full charge yet but it seems pretty quick
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In summary: Does an induction charger for the HTC HD2 exist? Yes. But iff you want to do anything with your phoen other than charge it, don't buy one.
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So, you would say this charger makes no sense? Sorry, but there's no induction charging which works like a WiFi and you can move where you want while charging.