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** Urgent ** my Wizard cant power on after upgrade ROM

Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?

nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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That really sucks...

nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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which rom did u flash it with ??? wat ver ur configs before that . ur ipl/spl version os and etc.
sometime it happens that the power button doesnt works ....
try poking the reset button wiz ur stylus ... press and hold for sumtime and c wat happens
if it starts then ... press it again and wen the screen goes blank pree the camera button and hold it ... ull get into the bootloader ... den connect da usb and flash a new rom or da old factry one ...
i use molski's rom its really stable

well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......

nicholas99 said:
well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......
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did u try da soft reset ???

yes i did but nothing happen at all

Xda Neo
I have the same problem. IPL and SPL 2.15.00001 and tryed to downgrade but after restart it does not power on. Tried everything but no way to power on. Is somebody know how to make it work again.
Regards,

You guys tried to flash a G3 Rom on your G4 Wizard.
So your bootloader (IPL/SPL) that is 2.xx.0001 is overwritten by a G3 bootloader that is 2.xx, so in other words....your devices are bricked.
Please someone, correct me if I am wrong.
Molski

yup, I agree. Bricked hopefully someone can fine the JTag on these devices.

Wow that sucks! Full moon over Miami last night, naw that can't be it .....
Sorry but unfortunately I must follow my Grandmother's advice concerning when I don't have anything nice to say...

R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!

So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much

Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....

magicer said:
So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much
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a G4 has a .00001 on the initial splash screen.

ArtXT said:
R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!
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The problem is that if your bootloader (IPL/SPL) is fuc*ed up, there is no way to get it in bootloader mode to do a flash!
Only known solution is with JTAG connector, but that solution is not a clear solution yet, but I dont know nothing about that solution (simply...because I never needed it).
Molski

Dr Puttingham said:
Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....
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I knew I have a G4 and can't upgrade/downgrade with G3 roms or even change IPL/SPL, but I did that :]
Just found ROM v2.22.1 (I think), like my original Wizard's was. I was so happy that I found it, that I forgot about G3 chips existence 8)
Well, ROM was for G3 -_-
Just ran too fast and slipped. Maybe I got that speed after very often Pioneer BCT 1430 flashing. It is just immortal :]

well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.

nicholas99 said:
well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.
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I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...

Dr Puttingham said:
I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...
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...which is one of the reasons why carriers make it so hard to flash a ROM from one carrier to the device of another.

Qtek 9100 half bricked
Hi Molski
I'm new here.Just 'd like to know if you could support me on this matter.
Here we go...
I've flashed my 9100 from wwe to esn (spanish) with the ROM 1.3.7.5 or something like this.
This is the problem...I got a power failure in the middle of the flashing process.So now the device isnt able to start up it didnt install the OS properly.
Now it says:
IPL 2.24 (i managed to flash the ipl n spl)
SPL 2.24
OS 1.3.7.5
But I'm pretty sure that there's no OS watsoever because after keep trying flashing with other ROM in bootload mode.I finally managed with an Orange of 34 mb it updated the ROM,that is the IPL And SPL and with the process was running I've noticed the screen got blank and updated it properly.I was realy happy when I saw it but even though it did it properly I still got the same problem.The pda doesnt start up.When I flashed it for the first time I did it with care,followed all the instructions,that is, unlocked the CID first etc.But had the damn joy of getting a power failure in the middle of it.
I'm just wondering if one of you would be able to gimme a light on it.I've tried everything but flashing it with a G4 ROM coz I know it wont work.
Regards
Luiz Santos
Molski[/QUOTE]

Big Time Panic!!! Help please!!

I am not sure what I have done. I have a cingular 8125 G4. Downloaded the Risidioro g4 rom upgrade and my phone was not probably CID unlocked. Thought that did not matter cause I was able to install Mr Clean ROM couple of months back. I read some users in the forum who successfully upgraded from Mr Clean.
Everything went nice and smooth, the upgrade completed 100% and when it finished and rebooted it stopped at the blue, red screen and got stuck there. I did soft reset, hard reset but every time that blue, red screen comes up and gets stuck.
Has my phone become a "nice but dead piece of furniture" ? Oh! man..that would devastating!
Please help!
BigMonty

All right, no response yet but it is only a hour since I posted but for me it seems eternity already. I did something further reading and got some hope. My phone might not be dead yet. Somebody said, if I can get to the bootloader mode, I still have some hope.
I did some trick on hard resetting found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268836&highlight=dead
but to no avail.
Any other idea?? Cry!! Cry!! Cry!!!

Got another guy who successfully got out of the jail by having a SD image. Do you think it would work for me too? If it works where can I find it? I already e-mailed the guy, seems like a nice guy, let's see if he replies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274471&highlight=dead

Do you see a USB connection if you connect it to Active sync, normally it is showing in the lower left or right corner, I'm not sure.
If so, you should be able to re-flash again, best would be to do this with your previous installed ROM.

Btw,
Spl 2.25.0001
Ipl 2.25.0001
Can somebody suggest what would be most suitable ROM to go for once I am in the bootloader screen?

Vilem said:
Do you see a USB connection if you connect it to Active sync, normally it is showing in the lower left or right corner, I'm not sure.
If so, you should be able to re-flash again, best would be to do this with your previous installed ROM.
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Thanks a lot Vilem for your reply. Yes I see a USB connection..but I guess we can't get to activesync because the OS did not load yet. I had the Mr Clean ROM installed and I tried to go for it but failed. What should I do now? Go for the original shipped Cingular ROM?Anybody knows which version it was and where can I find it?

bigmonty said:
I see a USB connection..
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Means connected, try it. Mine crashed a couple of times like that and managed to get it going again.

You mean I should run the Mr Clean update utility which is the last successful ROM update or the orginial Cingular shipped ROM?

bigmonty said:
You mean I should run the Mr Clean update utility which is the last successful ROM update or the orginial Cingular shipped ROM?
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try the last succesful.

bigmonty said:
All right, no response yet but it is only a hour since I posted but for me it seems eternity already. I did something further reading and got some hope. My phone might not be dead yet. Somebody said, if I can get to the bootloader mode, I still have some hope.
I did some trick on hard resetting found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268836&highlight=dead
but to no avail.
Any other idea?? Cry!! Cry!! Cry!!!
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Bigmonty - after getting into allsorts of issues after trying to upgrade my G4 to various 3.2 based ROMS, i also got to the bootloader screen with the USB indicator in the righthand corner.
This worked for me - take the battery out for an hour or so, put back in and soft reset. make sure you have a good charge. reboot the PC and plug in the device.
Now the only ROM i can recover a working device from isto use the latest ROM from the phone supplier. in my case from the club i-mate site (my device is SIM unlocked).
hope it helps

Thanks AirWol. I was able to go back to Mr Clean successfully, which was a great relief. What I was doing wrong was, I was using the wrong update utility of Mr Clean. I should have used the one which was modified according to Risidioro guide for use in g4 chips. But I was using the original Mr Clean instead.
BTW, anybody knows whether it is possible to update g4 phones to the latest Risidioro or Cingular 2.26 ROMS? That is, can I modify according to Rididioro guide for use in g4? Anybody?
Probably I haven't learned enough lessons yet!

Can you unbrick a Wizard ?

ok ive done a search and not come up trumps.
Im looking at buying a so called bricked wizard of ebay for either spares or as a test to try and learn somit new.
The guy has flashed a g3 rom on a g4 device and now its dead.
as there any way to get the original rom back onto the device and breath some life into it ?

Ask him if he's able to get into the bootloader. If he is, it's very possible to revive it.
If not, run away!

this is wha he said !
"unit boots into a screen that say xda power or something like that.basically a phone engineer said that it was corrupt,if you understand these devices i flashed a g4 device with a g3 rom"

bleep said:
this is wha he said !
"unit boots into a screen that say xda power or something like that.basically a phone engineer said that it was corrupt,if you understand these devices i flashed a g4 device with a g3 rom"
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A 'bricked' device works the same way a brick does, i.e, does nothing (not even start)
Since that unit does boot into something i believe there's still a chance to make it work again, but... it's not a sure thing.

ok well when it comes i cant start looking at trying to fix it.
if it cant be fixed it will be good for spares for my currently dodgy g4.
what kind of things should i be trying when it comes then >

bleep said:
ok well when it comes i cant start looking at trying to fix it.
if it cant be fixed it will be good for spares for my currently dodgy g4.
what kind of things should i be trying when it comes then >
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The only thing you can try is to put the phone into bootloader and try to flash another rom. Dont get your hopes up though, flashing a G3 rom to a G4 tends to make this impossible.
Good Luck

so to get in bootloader what combination of buttons is it ? and i guess i just run the carriers update program to put the standard rom back on the device or is there something else i have 2 run ?

bleep said:
so to get in bootloader what combination of buttons is it ? and i guess i just run the carriers update program to put the standard rom back on the device or is there something else i have 2 run ?
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You could have had the answer faster and easily if consulting the wiki
The way to enter the bootloader is by keeping voice-dial button pressed while poking softly the reset hole with the stylus

ta.
then run the carriers updater proggy ?
I know i should but I just thought id ask

But be sure to flash one from the ORIGINAL provider unless you're sure the CID is unlocked!

ive got the original british o2 rom here so will use that.
just a quick question. is the wizardlov rom one that works on both g3's and 4 ?

Dunno, you must check if the nk.nbf has IPL/SPL files packed and if it has then what DOC version is it for

and how u do that ?

bleep said:
and how u do that ?
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Open the RUU with winrar or other compacter and extract the nk.nbf
Get my tool (WST - check signature), use respective button to extract the files from nk.nbf and see what files are extracted

i have read the wizard lov rom and ther is no ipl/spl files or doc so does this mean safe for g4 ?

bleep said:
i have read the wizard lov rom and ther is no ipl/spl files or doc so does this mean safe for g4 ?
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doc? what do you mean 'doc'?
Have you extracted chunks from nk.nbf?

there was about 5-6 files extrated when i hit the extract button. to be honest i got a little lost when using it

bleep said:
there was about 5-6 files extrated when i hit the extract button. to be honest i got a little lost when using it
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well, this is where you can't be lost
Go back and make sure that when extracting nk.nbf with WST there are no IPL or SPL files as a result. If such then it's safe to flash to a CID UNLOCKED G4

ok will let u know

ok received phone today
charged it up and turned it on
the phone freezes after the initial splash screen where it confirms the spl and ipl.
Its def a g4 device, i can get to bootloader with no issues, hard reset works fine and ask me if i want to clear rom etc so im going to attempt the flash back with the standard 02 rom .
fingers crossed it works

Hard spl in detail Wing/Herald

This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe

Good manual! thanks!

ruebyi said:
Good manual! thanks!
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no problem.. i had a friend in a dif thread needing help with hard spl and was looking for detail.. so here it is.. plus ill be as much support as i can be.

trust me if you follow those steps it will work and you will be on your way to great things

I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.

lmyers10 said:
I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.
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On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..

iPhone iWing said:
On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..
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I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.

lmyers10 said:
I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.
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O no man i wasn't coming close to taking it like that.. It was a big reminder!! Thank you.. Like i said thou i didnt do them in order on my other wing and it worked without a prob.. But do as recommended now.. I put that they need to be in the order i have posted.. Thanks.. I hope your hard spl goes great!!!
fo_sho..

thanks these are great instruction.and i believe anybody should b able to hard spl afer reading these directions...but hey who knows

Thanks it worked perfect

Ditto here. Thank you very, very much. Good instructions!
One little thing: "aserpolicy.cab" is actually "ASerg Policies.CAB" and "disablesecurity.cab" is "Disable_Security.cab" in the OEM ROM you provided a link to.

I just got a used Wing off Ebay. My IPL is 4.10.0002 and my SPL is 4.10.0000 and when I try to HardSPL I get to where the progress bar is but then it says it can't communicate with my PDA/PHone and dies on me.
I installed the CAB files in the order stated then soft reset then ran the ROM UPdate Utility. ActiveSync is active but it says it can't communicate. Did I do something wrong?
Thanks for any help.
*** Edit*** Got this figured out. I needed to go to Settings->Connections->USB to PC and check the box for Advanced Communications then run the ROM Update Utility
Lance

I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.

chaotic646 said:
I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.
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Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?

iPhone iWing said:
This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe
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Awesome. I was worried about doing this because everything seemed out of date and etc on here but I figured the hell with it, it's been months and so many hours this week and it worked. Thanks. I was a little worried about the spl because it looked like an older version and said wm6 and not 6.1. Well everything worked out great, thanks for this. After hours and days of reading every thing I could, this was the only that did not leave me with too many unanswered questions making me worried about doing this.
*UPDATE* So I I did another one today (or tried) and kept getting that 260 error and don't know why yet (I know; it is some place in the forums) and after having it do it about 5 times I checked (unlike you said to) and it never updated the spl etc I was in a hurry but I don't think the error was my fault. But now I have a question: What exactly are the 3 cab files for? At first I thought that was what did the hard spl but then after doing it and reading this again (I learn by doing not reading) I realizied it is not. And second question is: Why does it have to be flashed with that ROM to hard spl it?

apathetic said:
Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
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It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.

chaotic646 said:
It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.
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Oh ok. I did 3 today and still did not see that (tg)

Hi!
Thanks for all the explanations.
My IPL is 4.18.0002 and SPL4.18.0000.
My phone is locked by a brazilian cell commpany TIM. Do I need to unlock my herald before to do a hard spl?
Thanks in advance
Gorbo

Hi Gordo, I am from Porto Alegre too and I hard-spled ok here.
You dont need to unlock before to do a hard spl.
Thanks.

apathetic said:
Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
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I have done the same yesterday ... the thing was I've forgot the storage card in the phone. There was mess of previous installation (mostly WM5). Today I've made clear installation of the official WM6 with the card out of slot. It is working perfect now.

[Q] Problems after a dodgy install.

DaveShaw Edit:
Split the thread from the NBH Extract thread.
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!

Shaico said:
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!
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I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave
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Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
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Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
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OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave
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First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!

Shaico said:
First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!
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Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave
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I'm sorry, it didn't help! Or I didn't understand the mining of the post! so I follow the instructions and then what? Nothing change! It's all the same! I can't see any different! What else can I do? How can I erase all the data include all!! Data!! And start again and make it brand new again? Im just want this logo to go away!! How do I make my Kaiser new again with no foreign files that no came with me device from the factory! I want to Cray!! I can't help it any more! Please help.
Can you please help me live? Can we kindly chat in the messenger? I'm lost of me mind with all this posts and cant mange this alone!
Thank you in advanced!

Anyone can please help?

Hi, sorry for the delay.
The instructions in my last post should get you back up and running. You'll have have to read up on the wiki and the ROM Development stickies for more help.
I am at work now, and am pressed for time at the moment, have a look on #xda-devs chanel on FreeNode after 8-9PM (GMT) for me. I'll be able to chat then. (I am also on MSN, but I don't use it at home that often. I'll try and make an effort over the next few days.)
Ta
Dave