Can you unbrick a Wizard ? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

ok ive done a search and not come up trumps.
Im looking at buying a so called bricked wizard of ebay for either spares or as a test to try and learn somit new.
The guy has flashed a g3 rom on a g4 device and now its dead.
as there any way to get the original rom back onto the device and breath some life into it ?

Ask him if he's able to get into the bootloader. If he is, it's very possible to revive it.
If not, run away!

this is wha he said !
"unit boots into a screen that say xda power or something like that.basically a phone engineer said that it was corrupt,if you understand these devices i flashed a g4 device with a g3 rom"

bleep said:
this is wha he said !
"unit boots into a screen that say xda power or something like that.basically a phone engineer said that it was corrupt,if you understand these devices i flashed a g4 device with a g3 rom"
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A 'bricked' device works the same way a brick does, i.e, does nothing (not even start)
Since that unit does boot into something i believe there's still a chance to make it work again, but... it's not a sure thing.

ok well when it comes i cant start looking at trying to fix it.
if it cant be fixed it will be good for spares for my currently dodgy g4.
what kind of things should i be trying when it comes then >

bleep said:
ok well when it comes i cant start looking at trying to fix it.
if it cant be fixed it will be good for spares for my currently dodgy g4.
what kind of things should i be trying when it comes then >
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The only thing you can try is to put the phone into bootloader and try to flash another rom. Dont get your hopes up though, flashing a G3 rom to a G4 tends to make this impossible.
Good Luck

so to get in bootloader what combination of buttons is it ? and i guess i just run the carriers update program to put the standard rom back on the device or is there something else i have 2 run ?

bleep said:
so to get in bootloader what combination of buttons is it ? and i guess i just run the carriers update program to put the standard rom back on the device or is there something else i have 2 run ?
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You could have had the answer faster and easily if consulting the wiki
The way to enter the bootloader is by keeping voice-dial button pressed while poking softly the reset hole with the stylus

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then run the carriers updater proggy ?
I know i should but I just thought id ask

But be sure to flash one from the ORIGINAL provider unless you're sure the CID is unlocked!

ive got the original british o2 rom here so will use that.
just a quick question. is the wizardlov rom one that works on both g3's and 4 ?

Dunno, you must check if the nk.nbf has IPL/SPL files packed and if it has then what DOC version is it for

and how u do that ?

bleep said:
and how u do that ?
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Open the RUU with winrar or other compacter and extract the nk.nbf
Get my tool (WST - check signature), use respective button to extract the files from nk.nbf and see what files are extracted

i have read the wizard lov rom and ther is no ipl/spl files or doc so does this mean safe for g4 ?

bleep said:
i have read the wizard lov rom and ther is no ipl/spl files or doc so does this mean safe for g4 ?
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doc? what do you mean 'doc'?
Have you extracted chunks from nk.nbf?

there was about 5-6 files extrated when i hit the extract button. to be honest i got a little lost when using it

bleep said:
there was about 5-6 files extrated when i hit the extract button. to be honest i got a little lost when using it
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well, this is where you can't be lost
Go back and make sure that when extracting nk.nbf with WST there are no IPL or SPL files as a result. If such then it's safe to flash to a CID UNLOCKED G4

ok will let u know

ok received phone today
charged it up and turned it on
the phone freezes after the initial splash screen where it confirms the spl and ipl.
Its def a g4 device, i can get to bootloader with no issues, hard reset works fine and ask me if i want to clear rom etc so im going to attempt the flash back with the standard 02 rom .
fingers crossed it works

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** Urgent ** my Wizard cant power on after upgrade ROM

Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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That really sucks...
nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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which rom did u flash it with ??? wat ver ur configs before that . ur ipl/spl version os and etc.
sometime it happens that the power button doesnt works ....
try poking the reset button wiz ur stylus ... press and hold for sumtime and c wat happens
if it starts then ... press it again and wen the screen goes blank pree the camera button and hold it ... ull get into the bootloader ... den connect da usb and flash a new rom or da old factry one ...
i use molski's rom its really stable
well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......
nicholas99 said:
well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......
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did u try da soft reset ???
yes i did but nothing happen at all
Xda Neo
I have the same problem. IPL and SPL 2.15.00001 and tryed to downgrade but after restart it does not power on. Tried everything but no way to power on. Is somebody know how to make it work again.
Regards,
You guys tried to flash a G3 Rom on your G4 Wizard.
So your bootloader (IPL/SPL) that is 2.xx.0001 is overwritten by a G3 bootloader that is 2.xx, so in other words....your devices are bricked.
Please someone, correct me if I am wrong.
Molski
yup, I agree. Bricked hopefully someone can fine the JTag on these devices.
Wow that sucks! Full moon over Miami last night, naw that can't be it .....
Sorry but unfortunately I must follow my Grandmother's advice concerning when I don't have anything nice to say...
R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!
So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much
Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....
magicer said:
So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much
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a G4 has a .00001 on the initial splash screen.
ArtXT said:
R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!
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The problem is that if your bootloader (IPL/SPL) is fuc*ed up, there is no way to get it in bootloader mode to do a flash!
Only known solution is with JTAG connector, but that solution is not a clear solution yet, but I dont know nothing about that solution (simply...because I never needed it).
Molski
Dr Puttingham said:
Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....
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I knew I have a G4 and can't upgrade/downgrade with G3 roms or even change IPL/SPL, but I did that :]
Just found ROM v2.22.1 (I think), like my original Wizard's was. I was so happy that I found it, that I forgot about G3 chips existence 8)
Well, ROM was for G3 -_-
Just ran too fast and slipped. Maybe I got that speed after very often Pioneer BCT 1430 flashing. It is just immortal :]
well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.
nicholas99 said:
well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.
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I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...
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I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...
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...which is one of the reasons why carriers make it so hard to flash a ROM from one carrier to the device of another.
Qtek 9100 half bricked
Hi Molski
I'm new here.Just 'd like to know if you could support me on this matter.
Here we go...
I've flashed my 9100 from wwe to esn (spanish) with the ROM 1.3.7.5 or something like this.
This is the problem...I got a power failure in the middle of the flashing process.So now the device isnt able to start up it didnt install the OS properly.
Now it says:
IPL 2.24 (i managed to flash the ipl n spl)
SPL 2.24
OS 1.3.7.5
But I'm pretty sure that there's no OS watsoever because after keep trying flashing with other ROM in bootload mode.I finally managed with an Orange of 34 mb it updated the ROM,that is the IPL And SPL and with the process was running I've noticed the screen got blank and updated it properly.I was realy happy when I saw it but even though it did it properly I still got the same problem.The pda doesnt start up.When I flashed it for the first time I did it with care,followed all the instructions,that is, unlocked the CID first etc.But had the damn joy of getting a power failure in the middle of it.
I'm just wondering if one of you would be able to gimme a light on it.I've tried everything but flashing it with a G4 ROM coz I know it wont work.
Regards
Luiz Santos
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Maybe CID Lock problem ? NEED HELP !!!!

Hi, After the soft reset comand, I removed the battery from my Wizard. After that the followin problem was appear: the phone is bringing up to the splash screen and STOP on this position.I have tried to download another Rom but the problem still is the same. My Phone is not CID unlock and before this, I cooked own rom like is writen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043 . So any idea how to wake-up my phone MDA Vario.
Ok forgive me if I'm wrong here, I don't really want to judge before I know the full story, but seems to me your brain went on strike momentarily. First rule of flashing any unofficial rom CID UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE. Anyways sorry, I just wanted to say something so it doesn't happen to you again, that said, what rom did you try to upgrade to? what rom did you try to downgrade to after that? is your device a G3 or G4?
If your device is a G3 I would recommend downgrading to this rom by xelecin
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_Wizard_1081002_108_10910_ENG_US.exe
it will ask you if you want to CID unlock your device at the start so you shouldn't need to worry about forgetting this time , if you can't connect your device to activesync just go into the bootloader (hold the camera, voice dial buttons while pressing the reset button) and once it connects run the set-up.
Oh another thing before I forget..... do some searching and read up a bit, because this is a pretty common topic on this forum, best of luck and hope everything works out ok. If not, report back.
*edit* I just noticed the thread that you linked to, I actually wasn't aware that this was possible, but anyways I think it's still much safer to CID unlock your device if possible, and another thing you might try replying in that thread if it doesn't work out since they should be more knowledgeable in the matter..... and that would help keep the forums less cluttered *edit*
Thanks, for your help, Unfortunately you are totaly right for my stupid act (again). At first i tried to solve the problem alone , but whole day I roam through this forum to find solution but I can't find the same problem like my. Maybe because of my ..... brain .Anyway I am with G3. NOW I have
IPL 1.0
SPL 2.26
GSM 01.09.11
OS 1.5.4.2
This is after this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
I tried also to download also and Molski's 2.26.10.2 AKU2.3 Rom a.k.a. 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom, but the problem is the same : The splash screen is running and STOP and.... nothing.
I can go to bootloader and can download new rom, but I can't start fhe phone.
Yeah I know these forums aren't the easiest in which to look for info. So you can go into the bootloader, that's good. Don't try to go to a AKU2.x rom or later, keep it under that, so no 2.26 roms at all. 105, or 108 roms should be good.
Did you try the rom from the link I provided or the one on the thread? and afterwards did it go into the phone at all? My friends MDA had a similar problem last week, caused by the same thing, though in your case I see the SPL isn't updating when you install new roms on his it was the os that wasn't updating, but as soon as I installed that rom I recommended it booted up fine, then I updated his device to molski's 2.3.
I'll check back in a few so let me know how's it going.
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
DoCtOr_X said:
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Ok, but tell me how to solve this :
"qiote"
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
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I don't have access to the phone explorer and phone at all.
masr1979 I have tried the rom you give me, but it look like there is some things I don't understand: When I start the exe file i have choice <continue> .Whet I type <c> 2(two) time the soft tell me <no device found> and order me to continue with copy ???. After few seconds tell me that Unlocker ..... Done!, and start HTC wizard Unlocker and NOTHING !!! Stop on this position more then 15 min. and only the led for charging on the phone is active.
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
masr1979 said:
Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Of course I'm not sure, but I thing it was 2.21. Anyway did you think that is posible to cook my own rom in G4? I'm totally confused.
Every time when I upload new rom I have this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32884&stc=1&d=1168184491
IMG_2976.jpg
...and also this is my bootloader screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32885&stc=1&d=1168184491
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Dr Puttingham said:
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
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Thanks, but I try to find oficial rom but without success. And very interesting thing I found.. when I start to upload new rom the soft start to check my old rom and after that tell me that i have GE (german) language, but my old was WWE ?
Is it posible some one to give me some link to official 2.x ROM but for T-mobile german language.
Well the other day I tried finding that german rom for a while.... that search was going nowhere, I saw this thread, I don't know if you might want to check into it and maybe try it out. There's mixed results apparently but who knows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963

Is my Wizard Dead??

I try to install a Rom Dopod_WM6-CHS. When it finished, my wizard is OFF.
I try to go in Bootloader, nothing!!!
I have G4 unlocked with PDAVIET3.
What happened?
Any solution?
Is this Bricked or what?
Pls
Thnks to all.
Hi
Did you had enough battery when you began the upgrade ?...just guessing
Yes. I have 70% battery.
I try wrongly to install that ROM, who was in Chinese.
When it finished, its going off, and i cant to go on.
Are you sure it doesn't enter bootloader ? Did you tried everything. BTW, why did you tried to install the chineese rom ?
Have you tried takeing off the battery for about half and hour and then trying again bootloader ? When your device is of, and you plug it into charger, does the led lights ? And if so , what colour ... orange(normal) or red or worse ...nothing ?
Yes i Try batter off for 4-5 hour.
I try hard reset (CommManager button, VoiceComm Buton and to reset), Nothing.
I dont see that it was in Chinese. In finishing of installing Extended Rom, he gone off, and no one LED light is taking on.
I dont know what.
If no led is turning on, try this. Pull out your battery, insert your charger(with the battery out) wait for a couple of seconds, and then insert the battery.
This should start charging...
Tell me wat's hapening.
Well, the ROM being in a different language should not cause any problems, rather, the IPL/SPL included in the ROM may have killed the Wizard, which either in different in terms of being G3/G4 or it is for a different unit (eg non Wizard phone).
I know that, but from what I remember, WM6 only has OS, not IPL/SPL.
That's why I was hoping that his Wizard is not dead 4ever.
anichillus said:
I know that, but from what I remember, WM6 only has OS, not IPL/SPL.
That's why I was hoping that his Wizard is not dead 4ever.
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If any rom you flashed included a bootloader (IPL/SPL) then you have bricked your G4. You cannot flash IPL/SPL into a G4 yet. It will work until the first reset then will be a brick forever after.
If you have warranty or insurance on it you might want to exercise one of those options and hope for the best.
I hope that you did not flash a G3 or other bootloader and your device is just being temperamental.
Good Luck.
Zzan said:
If any rom you flashed included a bootloader (IPL/SPL) then you have bricked your G4. You cannot flash IPL/SPL into a G4 yet. It will work until the first reset then will be a brick forever after.
If you have warranty or insurance on it you might want to exercise one of those options and hope for the best.
I hope that you did not flash a G3 or other bootloader and your device is just being temperamental.
Good Luck.
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the op contacted me yesterday for help....some bastard uploaded a Chinese rom to the ftp....with it seems a cross ipl/spl....this means if you install in a g3 or g4 it will brick....the file has been deleted...
Im one of victims who uses that ROM
That ROM was in Upload/Wizard/ROMS/ and i dont know who tolerate to upload that ROM who can brick a wizards of all newbies.
I think that in a future dont be that kind of mistake!!!!
faria said:
the op contacted me yesterday for help....some bastard uploaded a Chinese rom to the ftp....with it seems a cross ipl/spl....this means if you install in a g3 or g4 it will brick....the file has been deleted...
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Is there a schedule of when moderators (or whoever) views the upload directory of the FTP and verify/move the files to the proper spots/directories on the FTP?
I know that it was recently cleaned up, and assume it is being maintained. And if so there should be no reason (other than lack of patience) for someone to DL something from the upload directory.
In any case it's unfortunate that someone is that malicious (whether intentional or not) and caused people to ruin their devices. I would think as a good rule of thumb that before you flash any file downloaded from the upload directory look for an associated thread on the file or ask about it on the forums to see if anyone knows what it is/who the author is.
Zzan said:
Is there a schedule of when moderators (or whoever) views the upload directory of the FTP and verify/move the files to the proper spots/directories on the FTP?
I know that it was recently cleaned up, and assume it is being maintained. And if so there should be no reason (other than lack of patience) for someone to DL something from the upload directory.
In any case it's unfortunate that someone is that malicious (whether intentional or not) and caused people to ruin their devices. I would think as a good rule of thumb that before you flash any file downloaded from the upload directory look for an associated thread on the file or ask about it on the forums to see if anyone knows what it is/who the author is.
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yes we check all we can ,but we cannot check every file and its extensions.....this a voluntary job....as i rule you should only download files that you know that are safe....and for the love of good check the files with antivirus scanner...there is several treads about this problems allredy.....at the moment there is only 2 choices ;ftp for everybody or no ftp at all.
who can check if every rom uploaded for every device is good?.....there is no way.

[Walkthrough] How to fix your bricked phone

So, you've decided that your shiny new toy isn't very well setup by default. You flashed a ROM and lo and behold, you missed some instruction somewhere and now you think it's bricked.
Here's the good news:
It's not bricked!!
Bricked means that it's dead and it's in no way or shape recoverable.
There is still a chance. (As long as you didn't try to hardSPL with another Device's SPL...)
All you have to do is:
For the WING:
Hold the Camera button and WHILE holding it, soft reset the device (that means press the little hole above the memory card with the stylus.) That will bring you to the bootloader. Now download the appropiate RUU and run that program. A few minutes later and your new shiny toy is back to it's crappy OEM but working self!
I'll put in links for those who can't find them...
Here's tmobile's ROM.
WOW! That´s all??
Ok - then provide us a link to a XDA Terra RUU!!!!!!
hahahaha. Thanks for this help. Maby for some people it is usefull - but written 1000 times before.
ivanmmj said:
So, you've decided that your shiny new toy isn't very well setup by default. You flashed a ROM and lo and behold, you missed some instruction somewhere and now you think it's bricked.
Here's the good news:
It's not bricked!!
Bricked means that it's dead and it's in no way or shape recoverable.
There is still a chance. (As long as you didn't try to hardSPL with another Device's SPL...)
All you have to do is:
For the WING:
Hold the Camera button and WHILE holding it, soft reset the device (that means press the little hole above the memory card with the stylus.) That will bring you to the bootloader. Now download the appropiate RUU and run that program. A few minutes later and your new shiny toy is back to it's crappy OEM but working self!
I'll put in links for those who can't find them...
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papamopps said:
WOW! That´s all??
Ok - then provide us a link to a XDA Terra RUU!!!!!!
hahahaha. Thanks for this help. Maby for some people it is usefull - but written 1000 times before.
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I know it has been stated a million times. I'm just tired of the same question being asked over and over again and so here we are...
Too bad it'll be stated a million more times afterwards too.
falconeyez said:
Too bad it'll be stated a million more times afterwards too.
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If we sticky it and threatened their lives if they don't read it... lol
ivanmmj said:
For the WING:
Hold the Camera button and WHILE holding it, soft reset the device (that means press the little hole above the memory card with the stylus.) That will bring you to the bootloader. Now download the appropiate RUU and run that program. A few minutes later and your new shiny toy is back to it's crappy OEM but working self!
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It will not help!
ASerg said:
It will not help!
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And we hold their pet's hostage?
ivanmmj said:
And we hold their pet's hostage?
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Or better yet, tell them to send us their phones, then we "unbrick" them and sell them on eBay.
falconeyez said:
Or better yet, tell them to send us their phones, then we "unbrick" them and sell them on eBay.
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Might work out, I get 10% of the over all sold
Ghostrider
Ghostrider said:
Might work out, I get 10% of the over all sold
Ghostrider
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Fine, but I get 15% because it's my thread.
The instructions to do this are actually in my newbie thread. Which is a sticky.
TylerC161 said:
The instructions to do this are actually in my newbie thread. Which is a sticky.
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I know, but most people don't search. I figured, maybe if it says "How to fix your bricked phone" on the title, they might get the idea.
It was actually done mostly as a joke...
help
I used the hardSPL from this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
It worked successfully and I was able to restart into WM6. Then I tried loading the TouchIT 4.4 and it installed cleanly with no errors. But when I went to restart it, my Wing just sits there at the CanonYang boot screen and never changes.
I tried using the steps here to restore the tmo default rom, but it after 1% on the progress bar, the screen goes blank and the CanonYang screen comes back. Is there anything I can do?
edit: I can get to the bootloader screen with the color bars. I'm not sure if this additional info will be of any help.
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.70.Yang
gumbico said:
I used the hardSPL from this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
It worked successfully and I was able to restart into WM6. Then I tried loading the TouchIT 4.4 and it installed cleanly with no errors. But when I went to restart it, my Wing just sits there at the CanonYang boot screen and never changes.
I tried using the steps here to restore the tmo default rom, but it after 1% on the progress bar, the screen goes blank and the CanonYang screen comes back. Is there anything I can do?
edit: I can get to the bootloader screen with the color bars. I'm not sure if this additional info will be of any help.
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.70.Yang
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SPL 4.70.yang!!! your device is HARD-SPL!!
So going back to stockrom--> delete the SPL.nbh from EVERY RUU you are running.
Then it shouldn´t stop......
Big Thanks papa! That did the trick. My Wing is happy once again and running Open Touch. But I still want to give TouchIt another try.
And what if i cant find stock RUU mine came with some arabic keyboard and spl was 1.08 , thanks to Oli he didnt mention that SPL should be 4 or higher , so device is bricked since first Olis release and no way to find this arabic stock RUU.
Any Help ?????
Hitec
If the device had an spl of 1.08 prior to HardSPLing it, then you'll have to bring the device to your nearest repair center. There isn't a way around that. Oli doesn't know everything and that's the risk we take when we try new and experimental things that people create but have no way of testing. But, we live and learn. If it wasn't for that issue, you could always cook your own ROM and if the HardSPL was working, you could've easily flashed any ROM. But the keyboard wouldn't been wrong until you could find someone who had the correct keyboard and you extracted the ROM from it and cooked that keyboard driver into your ROM.
Oh noooo!!
Hi ivanmmj,
I used your guide to flashing my HTC P4350 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615.
It was in French and I wanted it in English. So I downloaded one of the official HTC ROMs "HTC_P4350_WWE_4.17.405.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe" assuming this was the English one because all the others couldn't have been.
I copied the "RUU_signed.nbh" from the above HTC ROM and put it into the RUU folder as instructed by yourguide (I didn't copy the SPL.nbh file). I then ran the herald-uspl.exe and everything went fine until the RUU utility stopped with the error "invalid vender ID".
The RUU exited without completing, now all I get when the device boots is the screen giving my IPL (1.08.001) and SPL (1.08.001). How do I flash another ROM from this state? I can't do it the "normal" way because ActiveSync can't see the device. When I try to use the RUU tool that comes with your tool, the progress bar shows then it says the tool can't be used with my device.
Someone please help!
foo_bar_baz said:
Hi ivanmmj,
I used your guide to flashing my HTC P4350 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615.
It was in French and I wanted it in English. So I downloaded one of the official HTC ROMs "HTC_P4350_WWE_4.17.405.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe" assuming this was the English one because all the others couldn't have been.
I copied the "RUU_signed.nbh" from the above HTC ROM and put it into the RUU folder as instructed by yourguide (I didn't copy the SPL.nbh file). I then ran the herald-uspl.exe and everything went fine until the RUU utility stopped with the error "invalid vender ID".
The RUU exited without completing, now all I get when the device boots is the screen giving my IPL (1.08.001) and SPL (1.08.001). How do I flash another ROM from this state? I can't do it the "normal" way because ActiveSync can't see the device. When I try to use the RUU tool that comes with your tool, the progress bar shows then it says the tool can't be used with my device.
Someone please help!
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Oh wow. I'm so sorry. I think I may have forgotten to put up a warning for people that have an SPL lower than 4.0. Was your SPL lower than 4.0? If it was, you cannot use the USPL OR the HardSPL and they end up writing part of the ROM over your current SPL and brick the device. This, unfortunately, needs to be fixed by your local repair center. I'll talk to the Mods about unlocking that thread so that I can update it.
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Oh wow. I'm so sorry. I think I may have forgotten to put up a warning for people that have an SPL lower than 4.0. Was your SPL lower than 4.0? If it was, you cannot use the USPL OR the HardSPL and they end up writing part of the ROM over your current SPL and brick the device. This, unfortunately, needs to be fixed by your local repair center. I'll talk to the Mods about unlocking that thread so that I can update it.
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Oh deary me! I am so dead now - I live in Tanzania, East-Africa. My "local" repair center is several hundred thousand miles away across The Big Blue. What exactly do the repair center folks do to fix the device? Perhaps I can soldier out myself with some guidance...
Thank you,
foo_bar_baz.

Hard spl in detail Wing/Herald

This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe
Good manual! thanks!
ruebyi said:
Good manual! thanks!
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no problem.. i had a friend in a dif thread needing help with hard spl and was looking for detail.. so here it is.. plus ill be as much support as i can be.
trust me if you follow those steps it will work and you will be on your way to great things
I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.
lmyers10 said:
I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.
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On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..
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On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..
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I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.
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I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.
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O no man i wasn't coming close to taking it like that.. It was a big reminder!! Thank you.. Like i said thou i didnt do them in order on my other wing and it worked without a prob.. But do as recommended now.. I put that they need to be in the order i have posted.. Thanks.. I hope your hard spl goes great!!!
fo_sho..
thanks these are great instruction.and i believe anybody should b able to hard spl afer reading these directions...but hey who knows
Thanks it worked perfect
Ditto here. Thank you very, very much. Good instructions!
One little thing: "aserpolicy.cab" is actually "ASerg Policies.CAB" and "disablesecurity.cab" is "Disable_Security.cab" in the OEM ROM you provided a link to.
I just got a used Wing off Ebay. My IPL is 4.10.0002 and my SPL is 4.10.0000 and when I try to HardSPL I get to where the progress bar is but then it says it can't communicate with my PDA/PHone and dies on me.
I installed the CAB files in the order stated then soft reset then ran the ROM UPdate Utility. ActiveSync is active but it says it can't communicate. Did I do something wrong?
Thanks for any help.
*** Edit*** Got this figured out. I needed to go to Settings->Connections->USB to PC and check the box for Advanced Communications then run the ROM Update Utility
Lance
I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.
chaotic646 said:
I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.
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Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
iPhone iWing said:
This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe
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Awesome. I was worried about doing this because everything seemed out of date and etc on here but I figured the hell with it, it's been months and so many hours this week and it worked. Thanks. I was a little worried about the spl because it looked like an older version and said wm6 and not 6.1. Well everything worked out great, thanks for this. After hours and days of reading every thing I could, this was the only that did not leave me with too many unanswered questions making me worried about doing this.
*UPDATE* So I I did another one today (or tried) and kept getting that 260 error and don't know why yet (I know; it is some place in the forums) and after having it do it about 5 times I checked (unlike you said to) and it never updated the spl etc I was in a hurry but I don't think the error was my fault. But now I have a question: What exactly are the 3 cab files for? At first I thought that was what did the hard spl but then after doing it and reading this again (I learn by doing not reading) I realizied it is not. And second question is: Why does it have to be flashed with that ROM to hard spl it?
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Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
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It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.
chaotic646 said:
It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.
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Oh ok. I did 3 today and still did not see that (tg)
Hi!
Thanks for all the explanations.
My IPL is 4.18.0002 and SPL4.18.0000.
My phone is locked by a brazilian cell commpany TIM. Do I need to unlock my herald before to do a hard spl?
Thanks in advance
Gorbo
Hi Gordo, I am from Porto Alegre too and I hard-spled ok here.
You dont need to unlock before to do a hard spl.
Thanks.
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I have done the same yesterday ... the thing was I've forgot the storage card in the phone. There was mess of previous installation (mostly WM5). Today I've made clear installation of the official WM6 with the card out of slot. It is working perfect now.

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