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warnning; does not work with g4 wizards!!!!!
this steps are to cid unlock and also to unlock sim in the folowing devices; qtek 9100, i-mate k-jam, mda vario, orange spv m3000, o2 xda mini s, dopod 838, Cingular 8125
first; you must make a full backup of you wizard before doing this , I personally use [wizBackup.exe] posted below for my backups and restores. This is not mandatory but could save an enormous amount of trouble.
I as most people with a wizard with the aku2 rom found out that it cannot be cid unlock with lokiwiz tool, you will get the following;{error:itwritedisk-an internal error occurred}.
. that is till now.
downgrade rom here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc%20wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
note- this steps is for unlocking the cid of the wizard with aku2 rom.
how to cid. unlock all wizard variants ( that have the latest rom build )
first download custom__ruu_wizard_1050412_wwe_101_11210_wwe. rom from the ftp site from the above link, unpack it and just click the romupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe to start downgrading. Simply follow the prompts.
after the rom are loaded go thru the initial setup as you would with any rom.
now download the (lokiwiz02b) from here;
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Make sure you unzip lokiwiz to the root o the c: drive.
please copy the whole lokiwiz folder to the root of the drive,not the contentents of the folder!!!!!
and follow the instructions .do not forget to copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwiz.
Now run lockiwiz and unlock your machine, your machine will reboot itself. if yoy see an eroot while unlocking that says;
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CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
this means that you device not been unloked......try again............
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That’s it your wizard is unlocked. Make sure yew keep the [lock_backup.bin] in a safe place you may need it for guaranty purposes.
Now flash the latest aku2 rom from your provider.- [very important,to avoid future problems wit rom updates]
then u can flash any rom you want.
question: if i cid unlock and sim unlock my phone (after installing custom 1.5 wwe rom) and then i install latest aku2 i-mate italian rom, will the sim unlock (and cid one too) be preserved?
Answer: i can confirm that that upgrading to the latest aku2 rom the wizard remains cid unlocked.
Special thanks to the author of the above cooked rom [button] also to machinagod for the lokiwiz tool and joninla for finding the downgrade rom, molski for is input and everyone that contributed to the cause.
do not try to downgrade using an older wizard rom other than the one posted above it will not work
also this {how to} is for the htc wizard only it may work with other devices but i don’t know, so if you turn you device into a brick do not blame me. use it at your own risk
if you device is from a operator like: 02, orange etc... You will void your guaranty unlocking cid, but don’t despair, if you keep the [lock_backup.bin] file that the lockiz tool generated you can restore cid to factory default.
this proccess only needs to be done once in the wizards lifetime.
Enjoy;
Jose faria.
donate if you like my work
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
maybe if you find an older rom for you device i only have a wizard.take a look at the lokiwiz tread i belive tha someone mentioned the HTC Prophets.
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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Bet I will!!
For the record, your Jamin's rom is the same that was available to download some weeks ago with the Aku2??
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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onesolo said:
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
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it may be possible,if you have an old custom rom for your device ,found this;
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance. That is why today review will be quite short, we will only discuss external elements and a new camera, all other aspects were highlighted in the review of HTC Wizard.
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Hi Faria, thank you for your HowTo!
Now i know the wizard remains CID unlocked after the upgrade and that's good. I only hope that it stays SIM unlocked too.
Bye
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
sh*t forgot to post the address to the downgrade rom.here it ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
sorry guys
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
faria said:
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
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Hello, could you please tell me what is changed in the custom ROM???
I am willing to do the same thing for the prophet.
Thanks
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
andrew_sh said:
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
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haaa you have the prophet
dont do that it may turn the prophet into a brick the only way is to find an old custom rom for your device. take a look at the ftp site it may have one there.
sorry
I told you Faria that it can be done
Great that it worked out okay, I can imagine how happy you are feeling right now
Nice how-to by the way.
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
good, really thx~~^_^
hello
i bought a HTC Herald(p4350, not tmo wing) yesterday.
i flashed the wm5 to wm6, but they aren't so good..
i would like to flash a new rom (touch it 2.*) but i think the device is CID-Locked.
in htc wizard there was a tool: lockwiz.bat
which unlocked my device (g3)
question is:
are there any program or sg, that unlocks, and "RE LOCKS" ( because of the warranty) my pda?
i need a guide also, and i don't like to pay for it (i am student)
please help me!
regard, pulyka
I flashed my wing without having to CID-unlock it .............. so I doubt you will need to CID-unlock your p4350
To flash a rom, you can use aserg's method.
When you DL a rom, you recieve bunches of other files.
First install a fresh RUU.
Then, install aserg policies.cab, then soft reset.
Then click an run 1_UPGRADE_ROM.bat
Wait and don't touch your herald.
When it says its done, hard reset and voila!
thank you Jamaican!
can i use this rom: Touch-It for CID locked wings! ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332998 )?
and is that a problem that i have black htc herald, and not blue t-mo wing?
or they are exactly the same devices internally, and the difference is only the covers?
fzzyrn: thank you too, where can i find guide?
They are exactly the same device, just defferent outside design and keyboard layout ............... you can try the touch-it v2.0 by itje located here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334323
make sure to read the text file in the package first before attempting the update
thx!
i will try it tomorrow
You can use the Touch-IT 2.0 without any problem, i have a p4350 cid locked and works fine with the aserg´s method
I had seen the Aserg using he USPL to flash his rom and radio.
GUYs:
DO remember,if you are not Hard-spl,your spl ipl is lower than 4.00.0000,Please don't run JUMPSPL or USPL-BETA3 by pof.
Trust me or you will find lots of bricks on street.
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If you are HTC 4350 OR VADEFONE OR T-WING.run official ruu update to WM6 frist,to make you IPL SPL upon 4.00.0000
If you think I am joking.keep on..
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check more here or here
And if ipl/spl: 5.04.0001/5.04.0000 from WM5??? That is possible?
ASerg said:
And if ipl/spl: 5.04.0001/5.04.0000 from WM5??? That is possible?
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that's ok. nothing at all.
safely.
Now I shall check up
I confirm. Thanks!
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I confirm. Thanks!
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please warn people in your post.
and why don't you use jspl.it's quick and safely.uspl too slow but simply use
i want to be able to flash my rom so that i could install the HTC RUU on my tmo wing ( it's actually a herald but i was stupid enough to put in the TMO RUU)
Do you know any way i could do that with instructions available?
Also, once i do it, would the phone become unlocked again or still locked Just wondering.
umchriswho said:
i want to be able to flash my rom so that i could install the HTC RUU on my tmo wing ( it's actually a herald but i was stupid enough to put in the TMO RUU)
Do you know any way i could do that with instructions available?
Also, once i do it, would the phone become unlocked again or still locked Just wondering.
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The HARD-SPL is a little more dangerous than the USPL... I can help you find ways to get any ROM you want on that phone easily enough, but UNLOCKING it again is the hard part. There's not 100% sure fire SAFE way of doing it.
welll, i just installed the hard-spl on my device and it went through
there's just one thing that gets me...
what's the difference with this hard-spl and HTC?
is the only difference is that the boot screen is different or are there more features?
For now, I just need a comparision of what the hard-spl has from the HTC one.
The Hard-SPL is a customer SPL. It's permanent, too. You will have to create your own customized RUU from now on, one that lacks the SPL. You can't flash RUU's that contain SPL because the SPL is now write protected. It's convinient, though, because now you can't accidently screw it up. (It's safe once you have it IN your device. Too many people brick their phones trying to get it in there in the first place, though.)
So now i won't be able to put in the HTC RUU anymore?
All right, sorry i'm being so stupid, but here's another question...
You said that i now have to make my own customized RUUs?
What do you mean by that?
If you don't mind, you could send me a pm, I don't want to spam this thread with my stupidity.
Now you can flash ANY rom you want.
ALL cooked ROms - really all - without the chance of bricking = your device is SAFE.
IF you respect this little thing
every RUU Rom Update Utility
contains:
1. Enterbootloader.exe
2. Rapitool.exe
3. RomupgradeUtility.exe (the one you start)
4. RUUGetinfo.exe
5. RUU ressource.dll
6. RUU_signed.nbh (that is the custom system OS - you can put every HERALD .nbh here postet in touchIT3 for example)
7. SPL.nbh ---- !!!!!!!! delete this allways!!!!!!!!! ------ (it is in all official RUU but delete it)
now you can flash with an official update tool all custom roms for you herald.
But don´t use wing roms - the keyboadmapping is different.
There are good herald roms, too.
Good luck
umchriswho said:
So now i won't be able to put in the HTC RUU anymore?
All right, sorry i'm being so stupid, but here's another question...
You said that i now have to make my own customized RUUs?
What do you mean by that?
If you don't mind, you could send me a pm, I don't want to spam this thread with my stupidity.
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Dear Maestro Help upgrade to WM6
Dear Canonyang,
Have the following
Dopod C800 WM5 5.1.422 (Build 15633.3.2.0)
Can you please help me upgrade to WM 6
Gratefully
neelanjoo
canonyang_China said:
please warn people in your post.
and why don't you use jspl.it's quick and safely.uspl too slow but simply use
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Hello everybody,
I bought a P4350 from Spain a few days ago and "unfortunately" the Spanish HTC Official WM6 upgrade was already installed on it. This means that my phone is CID Unlocked so I cannot install an English WM6 version. (I tried to, but in vain...).
I've tried several WM5 device CID unlocking methods, but they all failed.
Can anyone help me?
Unfortunately there is not much information on the web for HTC Herald CID Unlocking as there is for other HTC's (Wizard, Hermes,...)...
HardSPL is CID unlock
or you can USPL an english RUU without the SPL.nbh
or you could just USPL/HSPL a custom rom
ok i'm gonna check for more information about "USPLing an english RUU without the SPL.nbh" on the web.
If you have any pertinent link to provide, it would be useful for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401061
this is your one free link. Welcome to XDA-devs
you can start by tellings us your IPL/SPL versions
hold camera button while u power on, give u a tricolor-screen with a numbers
IPL 4.17.0002
SPL 4.17.0000
I couldn't hardSPL my Herald...
I was finally able to change my ROM thanks to your link!
I'm wondering if there is a ROM including the latest features of HTC diamond for Herald devices.
I've been searching, but if anyone has a link it would be helpful.
Thanks.
I found two different ROMs that include the Touch Dialer (which I find to be a very interesting feature).
Both ROMs included only an NBH file which had to be copied to my micro-sd card. Then I would run my Herald in bootloader-mode so that my device recognizes the file and perform the installation. But it does not.
I don't know what I should do to let my device detect the new ROM file...
I tried copying the NBH file to the RUU Folder of the Flash center and ran it, but it doesn't work either...
Will be receiving a HTC TyTN II. It will be Orange branded and sim locked.
I understand the first thing will be to install Hard SPL.
1. Now, I read somewhere that HTC haven't released any official ROMs of their own with Windows Mobile 6.1. Why is it that the Shipped ROMs wiki page has them here?
2. Whether or not they are HTC's own 6.1 ROMs, there are three I'm willing to try. They are (and I'm just copying and pasting these from the Shipped ROMs wiki page):
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/1170540....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
These three seem to be "original" HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs. All are worldwide English. So what's the difference between each? Should I simply assume the one with the higher version number is the better one?
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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Thanks for confirming for me. I can't check the e-Club yet as I will be getting the phone maybe tomorrow. Anyhow, I really just want the original (and latest if possible) HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. Which should I pick form the list in the original post. Is one of them the same as the current one on HTC's e-Club?
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
yardie.spike said:
As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
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Thanks. Yup, I found 3 that seem to be HTC originals. Don't know how up to date they are with HTC's e-Club but they should do. From the three I have found below, I'm assuming the higher version is the latest (3.28.405.0), but why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
Here are the 3 I found:
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/11705402...16.25_Ship.zip
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
yrsmart said:
why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
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Some users have better luck with older versions, or older radios. Newest isn't always better
yrsmart said:
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
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Appear to be different build versions an different radios, Some builds/radios work better for some users than others.
yrsmart said:
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
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Read the thread attached to them., it will tell you what comes with the rom and what doesn't
yrsmart said:
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
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Hope this helped in some way. The best way to find the best ROM/Radio is to try them all and see what suits you the best.
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
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I think we are referring to Security unlocking. This process ensures that you phone cannot become bricked by installing the latest radios from HTC that have extra security. Without security unlock you cannot downgrade these radios without a tool called FrankenKaiser.
I'd recommend Sec Unlock for every user, It can be re-locked later if need be.
Thanks
Dave
Yes but the Orange UK phones are radio locked too, which requires the phone to sim unlocked and HardSPL installed to (To prevent Bricking)
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If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
yrsmart said:
Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
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You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
yrsmart said:
Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
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Excellent, I will try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks.