Any way to get WAP access via AT&T on the Kaiser? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I just switched to AT&T from T-Mobile (using an MDA) so I could get the Kaiser/Tilt at a great price.
Back with T-Mobile I used to pay for the T-Zones account for $5.99 a month and I would be able to get (albeit slow) internet access using that plan. Since I am usualy in an area with WiFi that worked out fine for me in the few instances when I needed the net while WiFi wasnt available.
AT&T though seems to only have data plans starting at $29.99 and up for the Tilt.
Does AT&T offer a similar WAP plan for another phone that I could put onto my plan and access the net the same way I used to with my MDA on T-Mobile?

with the right sales person, and the right person saying the right things, you can get 3g speeds for 19.99/month.

I think I just saw that plan on their site, the Cellular Connect Unlimited w/ Mail, meant for normal phone's not PDA's.
Guess I'll have to look into that option. Thanks.

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Kaiser Owners on ATT

trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
B: You are on ATT in the US
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Thanks
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Media net $20/month
Buzz313th said:
trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Plan
Thanks
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(In Line ... see above)
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
sqadan said:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
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Same as above
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
MediaNet - $19.99 - plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA connect unlimited
A: You have a HTC Kaiser - YES
B: You are on ATT in the US - YUP
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular - NO, I USE WAP.CINGULAR
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan. - I am actually on the 20 dollar media net plan PREPAID haha
And on WAP.CINGULAR I do not use a proxy and get full net access plus 3g. I went prepaid because I had heard ATT/Cingular had overbilled people that used alot of data on their phones while having a media net plan because they figured a "media net phone" couldnt use gigs of data. So people had gotten like 500 dollar bills and I wanted to avoid that so I went the prepaid route.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
I use WAP
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Blackberry Connect
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular)
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Unlimited Media Net $19.99
I did the same. The only thing is I ran into a few problems with voicemail and MMS so I called and had my plan switched back to mediamax 200 and everything works great.
w4rmk said:
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
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Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
PerfAlbion said:
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
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Thanks for the reply...
When I use PIE and opera I get the same speeds... Environment and other variables affect me less then the fact that ATT's network speeds when put on a graph look like spike city... It almost looks like the connection can run faster but is corked after 300kbits are sent...
Please continue checking...
JB
in PIE I got 385k, with Opera-Mini I got 1,542kbit/sec 0.44s latency. That was with the max 1MB file size. In Corona Del Mar
iPhone plan using wap.cingular, getting 1510 kb/sec with .32s latency, 5.744 d/l time, max 1mb file, San Diego on Opera.
Same other variables but switched to isp.cingular, getting 2013kb/sec, .343s latency, 5.398s d/l time.
I couldn't test PIE because apparently java needs to be installed. Go figure, since Opera's running fine.
Yes to all.
I have PDA Connect unlimited.
I'm getting 1520kb/s using opera.
FYI: I've seen 2.2 using 2wire.com not sure if it's reliable though
Buzz313th said:
Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
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When you gave at&t your IMEI#, the Kasier comes up as unknown in the at&t provisioning system. By default it is set to GSM device and not UMTS. This has been discussed in the at&t/Cingular forum.
BillMNJ wrote:
I spent almost an hour on with AT&T's data support and the guy said the reason was the failure of my devices IMEI# to register the devices hardware. There seems to be no hardware profile for the TyTnII ansd therefore it comes up as an "unknown device" in their provisioning system. I confirmed this on my visit to the store this afternoon as the rep there showed me the screen and sure enough, it comes up as unknown, and the setting for this selection is GSM, not UMTS which all of their 3G phones are set to. He said, your device "does not exist" in a valid profile as a UMTS device and therefore will never be able to see a 3G signal even if I was sitting under a 3G tower... He showed me his phone which is 3G capable and id did indeed have UMTS and a valid hardware profile.

T-Mobile Sidekick Data Plan on the Kaiser Tilt 8925

Sup,
Has anyone tried using the Sidekick data plan on WinMo5/6? My friends looking to get an unlocked AT&T Tilt and use it on T-Mobile. He's jumping ship from being a Sidekick user to WinMo, and he wants to keep his unlimited web and messaging for the $30 hes paying along with his voice plan.
Thanks.
Sidekick data plan won't work, since it only allows you online through Danger's backend servers.
However, T-Mobile's regular unlimited data plan is also only $29.99, so a simple call to customer service can switch plans.
Of course, the Sidekick's data services won't work with the regular unlimited data plan, so he'd have to pick one and stick with it.
I found an option for $19.99 T-Mobile Total Internet along with a voice plan. I think he'll just go for that one. Converted him from a SK, muahaha
does the sms through gprs work for wm phones? I know it was hit or miss back with my old nokia. If it does, outgoing shouldn't cost anything. And a bucket for incoming would be ok.
Also, how much are blackberry plans? I remember hearing people say to choose the blackberry to get unlimited internet and sms

Data Plan questions...

So, AT&T kills you on a monthly data plan, unlimited for $40 a month are there any alternatives for getting a monthly data plan or do I specifically need to go through AT$T for that service?
Also, I use the "No Data" feature which is awesome by the way to essentially turn off the data to and from my phone, I use WIFI. Someone sent me a text message the other day that I did not receive I assume because I have the data turned off on my phone, as planned.
Is there a way to get around this, t receive messages when connected via WIFI or is that specific to the data plan associated with AT$T?
TW,
u do not need to turn off your connection when using wifi. when you have wifi turned on and properly connected, all data usage will be through wifi so no charges. your phone calls and txt will still come through normally. you can call/email att to confirm, i did. plus you can also check your usage online and it will show no charges for anytime you are using the internet through wifi.
all data usage will be through wifi so no charges
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I can get sms through my web connection? I thought SMS came directly from my provider?
Is there a way to use another provider for data service?
TW,
I use Unlimited MediaNet for only $19.95.
That would be the best choice if you want to have data wherever you go for less then the DataConnect plan.
Well if you're without an access point that is.
I've been using it for a while now, and I use quite a bit of bandwidth a month, (IMplus / Tethering pretty much all the time) and it works great.
Slayer6234 said:
I use Unlimited MediaNet for only $19.95.
That would be the best choice if you want to have data wherever you go for less then the DataConnect plan.
Well if you're without an access point that is.
I've been using it for a while now, and I use quite a bit of bandwidth a month, (IMplus / Tethering pretty much all the time) and it works great.
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I've heard this before, I pay $39.99 for MediaNet unlimilted...so how do you get it so cheaply? The tethering can be done with ease but getting caught could encurr the wrath of ATT $$$$$ !
I'm sorry about that.
I'm using MediaMax unlimited.
Its unlimited Data /w only 200 texts a month.
I shoulda mentioned that. =/
Slayer6234,
I know I have the option of downgrading to MediaMax Unlimited online (account access) but I've contacted AT&T and they told me this is not supported so I'm a little leary to change it and have it cost me in the end. How long have you been using this? If it works fine I'll just downgrade and see what happens.
Thanks.
I've been using it for about 2 years now since I got a flip phone with a browser.
I've talked to AT&T about it and they do "frown" upon not using a dataconnect plan with a PDA but I've been using it with the HTC for 3 months and nothing has happened, plus I would just say that I have a flip phone that I can only use medianet on, and that I switch my sim to that from time to time.
The tilt will automatically connect/work with MediaNet.
The PDAconnect / Dataconnect plans will still get you on edge/3g, its just a fancy, more costly way of getting you there.
MediaNet will do the same... and you dont need a tethering plan with the tilt because, well, you have a tilt.
Slayer6234,
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a whirl.
I think I might no longer be confused ... MediaMax is still a service offered through AT&T (https://www.wireless.att.com/media/cingular_video_purchase) at a reduced rate...
So, you can't get an external data plan from another vendor for your phone although @ $20 bones I think that falls in line with everyone else's plans.
TW,

AT&T Tilt with BlackBerry Connect - can't use on a BlackBerry plan?

After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!
i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net
i can't speak to the international plans however.
I would ask to speak to some other rep. The support for blackberry connect is well documented on their web site.
Alibaba0101 said:
i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net.
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Thanks! I did try a few reps today - of course I couldn't get the same one I had last week who told me it would work!
Did you need to get the media.net plan for data? I thought with the regular blackberry plan you would get both data and e-mail on the Tilt if you were using the blackberry connect software?
Did they give you an actual blackberry plan? They said I had to have a "blackberry connect" plan, and not a regular blackberry plan.
I bought my tilt online and selected the plan that way. I even had a rep call me asking why I had it on there. I told them I am not the account holder and they better not make any changes to the account. They didn't. Sorry if this didn't help you, just for any other people looking to do the same thing.
I wonder if you bought an old Blackberry phone and called them with the IMIE if they would activate that phone then just switch the SIM.
Call back again and tell them you want the PDA Connect for BlackBerry® Connect Unlimited . The code is KRB9
I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.
kaydee said:
After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!
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I had a similar problem. The "solution" they set up for me is the pda blackberry connect unlimited combined with a 20Mb pda smart international plan. That gives me 20Mb a month of international data in about twenty countries (the list has probably grown) without roaming data rates. This works OK for me because country I cared about (Japan) is on the list. Heck, the only reason I bought the Tilt was because it would work in Japan and BBConnect is available for it. The only problem is the 20Mb limit. That isn't a big problem for me because I'm not there for large stretches of time. YMMV.
If that works for you, great. If not, take it back and wait a couple of weeks for the Blackberry Bold. It will also have 2100MHz UMTS and you can get the BB International plan.
I managed to get them to set it up by getting a BlackBerry Bold and giving them the IMEI. I never actually opened the Bold box - just used the IMEI to convince them to give me the plan.
I put the SIM in the tilt, installed the Blackberry Connect and all seems to be well.
The BlackBerry International plan is the only one with unlimited data, and since I spend most of my time outside of the USA, the other "Connect" plans just won't work for me.
I have a question about the media.net - I assume I won't be charged for data on it since I have the BB International plan that includes unlimited data? Has anyone else used this?
Alibaba0101 said:
I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.
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Which is the best US provider to use with the imported Diamond2?

Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar
I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.
I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies
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Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
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Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
kandjar said:
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
kandjar said:
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?

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