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video playback, cpu to slow?

I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx

anybody?
Ok, maybe no one has a solution but can somebody confirm that he has the same problem?

eska007 said:
I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx
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Perhaps you could tell us what you are attempting to play these with.

eska007 said:
I replaced my qtek2020 (400mhz) with the tytn2. With my qtek i was able to play almost anything (divx with high bitrate, vcd files, streaming 800kbps video over activesync) . The tytn2 seems to be to weak to play these files.
www.streamingpda.nl --> humortv (800kbps) stutters.
Divx --> without reencoding stutters.
Does anybody know a solution, please help, its the only thing i am dissapointed in with my new baby.
thx
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I went to the site you reproted and saw the same problem. The video seems to play ok for about 20 seconds and then goes in to a jerky frame mode. The sound is still clear though.
Oddly, I went to the windows media site from the windows media player that this site seems to demand and watched some clips there that played flawlessly.
Might it have to do with the way your site is encoding their stuff?
I am a noob but the windows media player offers almost no options to fiddle with to try to make things better. How to force the video to play with TCPMP?

I tried windows media player (not a lot of options indeed) , tcpmp (the latest version) and Makayama liveTv. They all sem to have the same problem. It is ok if the bitrate is below 500 kbps. I am giong to try that windows media site.

I'm having the same problem. As the video plays it will skip parts of it. but as you say the sound is fine.

have you tried setting your video driver to GDI? i would think that would solve the problem

How do you do that?
mikeeey said:
have you tried setting your video driver to GDI? i would think that would solve the problem
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In TCMP: Options>Video>GDI

Oh Ok, I tought you know how to hack the WMP.
I use CorePlayer (and TCPMP) and I use RawBuffer ... Works fine (faster than WMP).
Brickcity said:
In TCMP: Options>Video>GDI
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gogol said:
Oh Ok, I tought you know how to hack the WMP.
I use CorePlayer (and TCPMP) and I use RawBuffer ... Works fine (faster than WMP).
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Cool, for me. Videos + TCMP = It works.

Brickcity said:
Cool, for me. Videos + TCMP = It works.
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GDI or Rawbuffer?
what does GDI do?

so we have to use tcmp? wmp is useless if we want some kind of quality or flow? What the hell were you thinking HTC? give us some new drivers that works with wmp! allways a guinea-pig.

Posted this in another thread, but it applies here as well.
I'm using the Core Player and I tried "GDI" vs "Raw Frame Buffer" and the benchmark tells me;
GDI=Ave Speed of 135%
RawFrameBuffer=Ave Speed of 168%
Guess I'll stick with Raw, it plays my Divx vids perfectly, but I encode mine at 320x240 just for small gear like this and iPods. They look very sharp and clear at these modest rates.
I also tried RawFrameBuffer with the Keyboard Open=163%

So is my TyTN 2 worthless for playing back h.264 videos ?
I'm trying to playback the DL.TV podcasts in native ipod video encoded .mp4
It is already formatted 320x240 at under 400 kb/s w/AAc audio...
The sound plays fine, but the video stutters along.
Benchmarking only comes up eith 58%
Do I need to fix the settings ?

tbfl said:
So is my TyTN 2 worthless for playing back h.264 videos ?
I'm trying to playback the DL.TV podcasts in native ipod video encoded .mp4
It is already formatted 320x240 at under 400 kb/s w/AAc audio...
The sound plays fine, but the video stutters along.
Benchmarking only comes up eith 58%
Do I need to fix the settings ?
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use tcpmp or coreplayer and make sure you DON'T USE DIRECTDRAW. it should work

RPG0 said:
use tcpmp or coreplayer and make sure you DON'T USE DIRECTDRAW. it should work
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I am using TCPMP 0.72
I have tried both GDI and Raw Buffer with no noticeable difference in quality.
Both stutter along on that video.
Is there a web pae or post with the correct option setting for all of these other sub menus ?
Thanks again,
TBFL

TCPMP too slow on choppy on videos

Am i doing something wrong?
Can it be installed on the storage card ?
Thanks.

NavM3/5 said:
Am i doing something wrong?
Can it be installed on the storage card ?
Thanks.
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Did you try Raw FrameBuffer instead of the default DirectDraw video driver? Smooth as butter for me using Raw FrameBuffer.

I used Clone DVD Mobile to rip from DVDs on .wmv files. When I tried to play through TCPMP I got a message that it could not play the file (something to do with codecs).

I use that as well, what profile did you rip it to? You might try Pocket Divx Encoder (PDXE), it works well too.

I used Generic WMV, tried to keep it simple. I'll look up Pocket Divx Encoder. What player do you use on the Tytn?

heh, tcpmp isn't compatible with .wmv files. and video viewing on wmp is a less than pleasant experience.

zetajunkie said:
heh, tcpmp isn't compatible with .wmv files. and video viewing on wmp is a less than pleasant experience.
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it will work if you install the WM5 WMV9 codecs (search)

Found that DVDs encoded to 3gp work with WMP, no jerkiness with the video. Perhaps not the highest quality but adequate to keep me occupied during long waits.

Smahatma said:
it will work if you install the WM5 WMV9 codecs (search)
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ohhh, nice! good find!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126

I play TV episodes (HD rips) straight from p2p right into TCPMP, no reencoding. Am able to both on Hermes and Kaiser. Hermes I had to enable microdrive and increase buffer, Kaiser runs it like a champ!
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AVI\XViD 608x336

Creating Movies to watch on Kaiser/Tilt

Currently I am using CloneDVD Mobile to create movies in DivX format (making them around 800~900kbs). I am also using TCPMP to view my movies that are on my MicrosdHC 6GB card. They play pretty good but I do get some video jumping from time to time...
Has anyone used other formats, is something else other than DivX better? Perhaps a iPod format (but is there a Quick Time for WM6)?
What about WMV and the Kaiser, I am thinking it is not better than DivX, anyone tried DVD's converted into WMV?

are you making them 320x240? when I scale down a regular divx movie that starts out around 700 megs and turn the resolution down to 320x240, they work perfectly for me.

kireol said:
are you making them 320x240? when I scale down a regular divx movie that starts out around 700 megs and turn the resolution down to 320x240, they work perfectly for me.
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Yes I am making them fit the Kaiser screen and it's pretty good viewing (matter of fact my kid is watching a movie now on my phone, CURIOUS_GEORGE).
It's just sometimes I get a little pause (~ 1 second).

hrmmm. which player are you using?

TCPMP Player RC2 I believe. There a better Divx Player?

odie3 said:
TCPMP Player RC2 I believe. There a better Divx Player?
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The commercial CorePlayer, but it's only marginally better (as of now, at least), when it comes to plain DivX. Not so with more advanced formats like H.264, where CorePlayer is MUCH better.

Menneisyys said:
The commercial CorePlayer, but it's only marginally better (as of now, at least), when it comes to plain DivX. Not so with more advanced formats like H.264, where CorePlayer is MUCH better.
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What is/uses H.264?

i use pocket divx encoder to encode my movies...they look great

Just bought coreplayer, it does play my Divx files better.

I use DVDshrink and FAIRUSE. It compresses my movies down to around 300-350kbps avi file. They look and sound great.

i used Encode360 for my zune, appears to work well with my kaiser

I use pocket divx encoder (PDXE) and CloneDVD mobile. I've made hundreds of movies for my PDA's and have found that 320x240 with total bitrates under 500k play and look excellent, even on my 4" VGA iPaq4700 and Archos boxes. The difference between 475-500 vs 700 or more is minor and you just have bigger files and sometimes jerky playback with the higher bitrate settings.
I have TCPMP and Core players and they both perform the same with these, TCPMP has more plug-ins for streaming vid like youtube I believe.
Just my experience.

Is there any way to get large videos to play @ full speed?

I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?

Cawley said:
I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
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Get a Zune.

JimmyMcGee said:
Get a Zune.
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I second that Especially the new Zune is really nice. You can connect via your router to sync your music. I just hate the zune syncing software it's such a pain in the ass. I wish we could sync with WMP. I mean come on seriously.

Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's

I use CorePlayer (based on TCPMP ) to play my Divx files (700 to 900 Mo each resolution 660*360, datarate 1010kbps) without any specific Mobile transcoding and it plays quite well with the right settings, with some rare glitches (but i guess it will never work flawlessly until we have the real Kaiser drivers).
TCPMP is good, but Coreplayer is faster on the Kaiser from my own experience.
The only down side about Coreplayer (aside from the fact its not freeware) is that it cannot play AC3 sound unlike TCPMP (due to open source licence)

why i dont understand it...when i had my standard att WM 6.0 rom that came with my tilt...i watched avis and mpeg4//divx movies CRYSTAL CLEAR....and thatt was with no htc ca driver or none of that ****. And now ive upgraded to WM 6.1..first duttys hybrid then L26 and now garmins...and each rom has the same problem...old tcpmps crash and when i use the repack tcpmp app and it works....i have SLUGGISH and chopppy fps when i watch avi movies and mpeg stufff. How is this possible with all the new drivers and such....it was crystal clear to watch movies with WM 6.0..but with 6.1 its choppy and ****ty playback? has anybody found a better fix for this other then converting the movies to sccreen resolution?

have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?

Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.

thanks will give it a shot

antihrist said:
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx

amkaos said:
on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
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Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.

antihrist said:
Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..

amkaos said:
i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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I use Core Player for videos. Videos converted with XviD4PSP using my settings does not play well in WM player. You can try it with some other settings.
Here are my current settings:
- Format: MP4 iPod 5.0G
- Denoise/Sharpen: Disabled
- Brightness/Contrast: Disabled
- Video encoding: XviD HQ Ultra
- Audio encoding: AAC-LC ABR 128
I don't know what you mean with "bigger vids", but I use it for converting my divx/xvid movies and shows to MP4 and it works well. I think it supports even DVD files, but i didn't try that.
Last time i checked it took 6 minutes to convert some 30 minutes divx show to MP4 (Athlon X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8800GT).

One more thing about Core Player
Core Player with default setup gives me audio out of sync. But you can adjust that in options.

i tried those settings and didn't get a good result

works now i have upgraded coreplayer ... thanks alot

felixthecat said:
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
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this was the first result when I googled it. Follow this link
http://files.filefront.com/PocketDivX+Encoder+0360exe/;9172092;/fileinfo.html
Take care
Rod

hotrod101 said:
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
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I use it also. I watch moives on my phone and it works fine playing full screen and BT stereo.

try the new win 6.1 that att put out for the tilt... it might be more stable since it is the new shipping rom

Watching Divx films films very Jumpy

Hi,
When i try and watch my divx films through tcpmp or via divx player thye are always very jumpy. Anyone got any ideas?

Welcome to the kaiser, you're bringing up pretty much the first ever complaint about the phone.
There are many things people do to try and solve the problem. Search them out and see if any work for you.

Have tried differant roms, different players and also differant video drivers

Those are the sort of things you put in the original post.
what size are the movie files, format, etc.

600mb avi files

convert the files to the resolution of the kaiser screen 320x240 or something.

RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.

ChumleyEX said:
RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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Same here use AONE FLV to AVI MPEG WMV 3GP MP4 iPod Converter don't be fooled by name will convert anything to anything & get about 200mb max files keeping audio bit down, rez right for output, one thing has to be correct is framerate as hate 2/1 effects.