This might be a silly question, but does anyone know if the G1 will be able to access the web if you live in an area where 3G is not available yet? I live north of Los Angeles (who has 3G) in Bakersfield and we don't have it yet. I am hoping that I was not an idiot to preorder the phone and then not be able to use all the cool web features.
Thanks in advance,
Jamie
it should still work on the EDGE network
From my understanding it will work with GPRS, Edge, and 3g so you shouldn't have any problems bro by the way I understand the concern.
With a 1150ma battery, GPS, "big" screen etc, 3G will just drain the battery even quicker.
I will not worry about 3G until an extended battery is released- and the fact that 3G will not be in my market for a year of so.
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Hey guys i have a htc wing now, and it does not have a gps. It looks like the gps for this phone is one of the main highlights, because it uses it for a lot of applications. Does anyone know what the gps strength will be like? Will it work will in a building, it do i have the be in direct light for like ten minuites to get a signal?
Anyone with a htc device with a gps already, does it work well?
I hear the android is a-gps, so mabye it will have the ability to somewhat work well when in a pocket, or building.....
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Time for a lesson on GPS... It uses satellites in the sky, and you need a view of a certain amount of satellites to find your location (4 will find you but not very accurately, the more the better). If you're in a building, and not right next to a window, no GPS will ever find your location, ever. That's like asking if your internet will work if the ethernet cable is unplugged from the back of your computer and you don't have wifi, it goes against the entire idea of how it functions.
Now, as for the quality of the HTC GPS receiver... People have complained about GPS lag, but I maintain my opinion that it's completely software related, my Fuze had none whatsoever. You don't need to be in sunlight, just have enough clear sky that it can get a reading from the satellites. I've taken trips with the Fuze even on very cloudy days and it took a little longer to get a lock (5-10 mins, it locks in like 30 seconds to a minute with clear skies) but once it had my position, it stayed true. All of the upcoming HTC devices use A-GPS, by the way. Diamond, Touch Pro, Xperia, G1...
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WHAAAT? you dont want to use 3g? lol in my opinion thats 50 percent of the phones features.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
The big thing with A-GPS is that it's mainly used to increase the startup speed of your GPS. Instead of waiting 10 minutes to download the almanac of the satellites in the sky from the GPS sats, it downloads the data over your data connection, using the basis of which cell site you're connected to for determining your rough location. This way it only takes about 30 seconds to get a fix instead of much longer.
The sensitivity of the GPS on phones has been fairly good as far as i've seen on devices like the Tilt and such, so I don't see why a phone with such a heavy emphasis on location-based apps would have a sub-par GPS setup. Here's hoping things work well.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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Thanks to one and all!!! I am looking forward to my G1 and retiring my Wing.
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He's using the battery draining as an excuse, something to keep him from pulling his hair out because he won't have 3G for another year. Anyone who's used a phone for data features on both networks knows EDGE doesn't hold a candle to 3G.
As for the original post, yes, it will give you all of the same data features on EDGE as on 3G.
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3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
haitiankid4lyf said:
3g doesnt burn that much battery unless your using it constantly like as a primary internet for your computer. also when you put your phone in sleep mode it isnt runnig in the background
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Exactly... But when you're without 3G, I guess you try to justify why it's not as good, and that's what he came up with. It's like everything though, people on here try to justify why the iPhone isn't as good as the Diamond/Touch Pro, truth be told it's better in many aspects but comes short in many as well.
3g data transfer?
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
iife_aint_easy said:
ok i currently have the tmo wing.. and i can connect my lappy to the tmo data network via usb port.. will i be able to do this with the g1?yes/no maybe?
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I choose D... all of the above
No... it will not work out of the box.
Yes/maybe... it should work someday soon unless HTC/T-Mobile have somehow disabled that ability in hardware.
As soon as I get the phone I will be working on it on the Linux side (not an actual internet sharing app... more of a route/iptables script) and I am sure someone will work on a java solution (although a kernel solution would be faster). There was an application for the iPhone that provided internet sharing but it was banned from apple store and Google has said they won't do that so I think it should be here soon.
problems with Wireless (3g and wifi)
does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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does anybody else have problems with the 3g?
i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.
also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?
i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help
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I have an issue with my G1 WIFI connection. If i broadcast my SSID I connect with no problems. but if i disable the broadcast it will not connect, and this is with me manually putting in the connections into the phone.
I called TMobile but they said i needed to call HTC. they didn't have a solution.
BTW, I have no WEP enabled. I just disable the SSID broadcast.
I just connected to my Linksys router with WPA2 and had 3G running, connected no problem.
Haitiankid: try entering the details of your network manually and seeing if it will connect then. Also, as for the 3G fading in and out, are you in a week signal area for 3G?
wifi working
I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
for those of you with the 3g/edge switching problem...
Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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Hey, if uve got the 3g switching to edge back and forth continuously, its likely because you didnt get a new SIM card when u got the g1. It simply means you have an old SIM card that doesnt support 3g well, call tmobile up tell them your situation, theyve given most people a free new SIM card thats more compatible.
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I don't think that's the case. I've had the same SIM card since 2000, no problems like this. If any SIM is too old to support 3G, I'd think one made 8 years ago would definitely be the case.
It sounds like he's in a bad coverage area, which could be lots of things. There is a coverage map on the T-Mo website, don't know if it shows 3G. Or it could be the building he's in. My phones have never worked at my grandmother's house. I get full bars on the front porch, and full bars the second I get out the back door, but no signal in the house itself. Even relatives on other networks get little to no coverage inside the house. Probably the really really old insulation and building materials are blocking the signal. At my last apartment I only had a good signal on the corner of my bed, and that disappeared when new neighbors moved in upstairs.
These are radio waves, which aren't foolproof or perfect, they encounter all kinds of interference. Nothings going to be as secure and consistant as a wired connection. Nature of the beast, unfortunately.
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I got my wifi to work. It was my routers fault. What I did was in went into my routers settings by typing 192.168.1.1 and entered 'admin' (no quotes) and no password. Once in my settings I changed my brocasting type from b&g mixed to all mixed changed frequency to auto, changed network key from shared to open and wifi started working. I don't know if all those steps were neccesary but it worked for me. Hope it works for some else.
As for the 3g it seems to be getting better
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Careful dude, with the security set to open anyone within range (neighbors, wardrivers, etc.) can use your wifi to get on the internet. Try using WPA or WPA2 security, but leaving it all mixed and frequency at auto.
Hi, I have been using a mobile to just talk and SMS. Few days back bought a HTC TYTN II Kaiser and this was a quantum jump for me. Question - 1. Is it possible to have WiFi, GSM/3G and Bluetooth services active all the time ? 2. How do I know which service is being utilised by an application to communicate with outside world ? I want the phone call and SMS to utilise GSM/3G and all other to use the WiFi (home broadband). Appreciate help in laymans language. Thanks.
Most of that can be configured in your Connection Settings, go in there and take a look around.
Having everything on at the same time will severely reduce the time your device's battery will last. You may wish to rethink.
Thanks folks. I could find the setup for SMS and phone. SMS and Phone through O2 (current service provider). This is what I wanted. I now need to direct everything else to go via wireless-broadband.
@ stuntdouble
not to mention that WiFi and Bluetooth on at the same time is a trainwreck.
Thanks for the causion. I intend to turn on WiFi or Blue when I want. So no issues.
Pop quiz for experts. I see an 'E', '3G' or a 'G' at various times as the active connection medium. To connect to the internet using my home broadband, I turned on the WiFi and saw the WiFi icon in the place where the above symbols appear. Does this mean that the WiFi is active & connected to the Internet AND the 3G or GPRS or E is deavtivated ? Internet worked perfectly. Is there a priority among the connecting medium/protocols ?
I noticed this icon after upgrading to ICS. Anyone know what it is? I am running Bionic Eclipse ICS v1.2.1.
Thanks in advance.
I was told it had something to do with being connected to one of those micro cell things that use your internet to improve your coverage in your home.
Hmmm, I guess that's possible...
I can confirm it indicates a connection to a 'network extender', as Verizon called it when I had to buy one to get service at my home. Either you or a nearby neighbor has one that you are connecting with. It has a potential range of up to a 500 foot radius. If I leave home, the symbol goes away.
So we have two Turbos on Verizon and terrible coverage inside the home. We have the Samsung SCS-2U01 network extender set up and we just can't figure out how to get the phones to connect to the device. We've tried multiple places throughout the home to get the best coverage but it just doesn't make any sense. If I stand in the exact center of the house, it will connect to the microcell that is 10 feet away with a great connection. As soon you move from that spot, it drops the extender for the inadequate LTE signal.
Digging into the network extender: There are no options other than placing our phones on a priority list, so we're stuck looking at the phone. Unless there is some backend page that I'm not familiar with? We're only able to view it through the My Devices tab on the VZW website.
Unfortunately I can't root one of the devices (company phone with airwatch installed) so I would hope there is something that could be done with the settings. We currently have them set up for either global or LTE/CDMA, as we were doing a test between the two phones to see if either would matter.
any and all help is greatly appreciated!
I actually found a "resolution" to this:
Turns out when Advanced Calling is turned on, it will try to keep the LTE signal no matter what. Makes sense right? Well, as soon as I turn off AC, it immediately connects to the microcell and stays connected without issue. Now I just need to find out how to get Tasker to turn on/off AC when I leave/arrive at the house.
I recently faced an interesting problem using android location services - here is a problem:
You're on cruise ship, in the mid-Atlantic , and the ship has its own cellular network and its own wi-fi . when I'm connected to ship's cellular network , my phone shows I'm in Miami (although the ship is actually few hundred miles away), and when connected to Wi-Fi - it shows I'm in ... Germany . However, it blips from time to time and shows sometimes I'm indeed in the middle of the sea. The only way to get my actual GPS coordinates constantly was to set the phone to 'airplane mode' - when it's disconnected from cellular network and WiFi. When I tried to find out how to restrict getting location from any other source but phone GPS - I wasn't able to do that (besides using 'airplane' mode on cruise ship - lol ) - any help here will be appreciated(and I used Android 5.0 on my xperia). As I noticed, android probably compares 'location accuracy' from GPS / WiFi / Cellular network and decides to show it based on the best accuracy (and phone GPS accuracy in open see might vary depending on many factors).
Which device?
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Which device?
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Sony Xperia Z3 compact