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aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?
I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino
Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.
I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?
I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)
I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks
Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,
Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.
jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?
I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards
Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam
adamcullen said:
Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam
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Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
There is a know problem with the Parrot kit and you will find a thread in this forum where a member has contacted Parrrot who replied that they are addressing the issue.
This one my be usefull.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340908&highlight=parrot
NuShrike said:
Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
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Hi, thanks for that pointer ... most of what is described in that MSDN library isn't in my registry.
Im going to manually insert them all and see what happens.
A
Still no luck
I tried updating the Reg with the tweeks as suggest ... but still no luck. All i get is still the initial pair, but on disconnection, no automatic re-pairing of the device to the car kit.
Im doomed at this stage.
You're not alone. I have the same problem with my Motorola S9 headphones and Microsoft SYNC in my 2008 Ford Edge. Sometimes I have to turn BT on and off a couple of times for it to connect.
agreed
Turning the BT on and off a few times has also be part of my "solution" package.
This really isn't acceptable though. This device should automatically pair up, just like every other BT device does. BT is a protocol that should be adhered to and just work.
I have also tried this on my other WM device. It pairs a little better, but is not great. I've tried compairing the registry values of that device to my Kaiser, but I just dont understand the functionality of the reg settings enough to work out what to change.
Is there some developer out there who can help? This type of problem was experienced by us all back in the early days of the Hermes and this community sorted it out.
Can any developer out there help, like working out a port of the Widcomm BT stack for Kaiser?
a
Interesting. I have a Nokia CK-7W bluetooth car kit and the Tyn II has re-connected/connected to the kit every time. Actually more reliable than my SE K800i. Sorry that it doesn't help you.
Hey Juzzman,
nah, that doesnt help ... but does increase the frustration level!
Seems like you need to have a Nokia component in there somewhere for it to work ;-)
Anyhow, Im still convinced it is a bluetooth stack problem in the Kaiser. I'm going to try flashing one of the AT&T based roms and the other radio version and see what happens.
Cheers
Adam
I've had BT issues with all of my HTC devices, it's very frustrating.
Currently I've got a Kaiser (Orange), E650 (Orange) and a new S730, none of which work on my Pioneer headunit without Jetware.
The Kaiser with Jetware pairs up ok, but the sound is really tinny.
The E650 with Jetware sounds fine, but I can only send 150 contacts to the headunit.
The S730 doesn't pair, haven't put Jetware on it yet.
In the past I've had BT issues with M3100, C600, C500 etc etc.
Why the hell doesn't MS sort out their bloody BT stack!!!
Bluetooth problems
I am having the same problem with my JVC bluetooth unit BT1000. It will pair ok first time, allows me to make 2 calls. Will not the reestablish a connection/pairing. JVC worked fine with my sony erricson and nokia phones. Anyone found a cure to this?
Same problem with the stock AT&T rom (1.27.12.11) with the H700 headset.
Turn bluetooth on it normally sees the headset. If not turn it off and on again to get it to work. Once working it normal looses the connection after an hour or so.
Could it be a BT 2.0 Compliant issue?
I have posted this same problem earlier in xda-deveopers, on htc wiki and aximsite. Many people have viewed and are experiencing this same problem, but no one has posted any solution specific to my problem either. I hope a developer can solve this one for us. Is it a BT stack problem, or a BT 2.0 compliant problem, or a need for an updated ATT ROM to solve this issue? (I currently am using the stock ATT ROM 1.57.. that shipped with my Tilt.)
When I use my Motorola H700 with the Tilt the BT works fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing from the Tilt. Once I use the voice speed dialing directly on the Tilt, the Motorola H700 will no longer connect. I have to do a soft reset or go through the pairing process again. Once I re-establish pairing again, the H700 will continue to work fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing on the Tilt. Then we're back to having to do a soft reset to again establish H700 connection with the Tilt.
NOW, I just received a call back from an HTC tech who told me the problem is likely due to the Motorola H700 being only BT 1.2 compliant. He recommended that I try the Motorola H12, which is BT 2.0 compliant, but he could not absolutely guarantee this would solve my problem.
Does anyone know for SURE that the Motorola H12, being BT 2.0 compliant, will solve my problem? Or is there another solution?
Note: I have tried MS Voice Command 1.6 (full version), but the above problem still occurs. I have also tried Jetware, but again, no go. I am not sure that there is going to be an updated AT&T ROM to solve this issue either.
Additional Note: I have also tried other BT devices, such as the Jawbone, and the Plantronics Voyager. All do exactly the same thing as above.
Anyone have any solution? If the Motorola H12 is the solution, that would be great...
Thanks in advance.
I'm having the same problem with my new carkit. Did anyone ever find a solution to this??
I'm having a problem with the bluetooth on the HTC with the bmw car kit (E46, 2004). It auto connects fine every time, but I can only make or receive 1 call. After that call has ended, it still claims it is connected - I can browse the phone book, but when the next call comes in it will ring through the car kit, but as soon as I answer it the audio comes out of the phone, not the car kit. The same happens if I initiate the call instead of receive.
It's not the car kit, it has worked flawlessly with previous phones (Sendo, N80) I just have a problem with this one. It happened with the stock rom (voda UK), and all versions of Dutty's.
Anyone any ideas?
Have you tried flashing a different radio?
I also had a weird BT problem and flashing a new radio helped.
Hi
How are you answering the incoming call?
My boss has a similar car to yours with BMW proffesional bluetooth and is running an HTC S710 which works perfectly.
I have found the although you are connected to handsfree if you answer the call on the handset and not via the bluetoooth controls then it will push the audio through the handset not the handsfree.
therefore are you answering the 2nd or 3rd incoming call on the handset or the handsfree?
I might be able to test my vodafone v1615 on this car kit during the week.
Tom
Hello,
I also have a BMW X3 E86 from 2004 with a BMW Bluetooth Kit ( I believe is the some as yours... ) and my Kaiser works great without any problems.
My Kaiser Radio version is: 1.27.12.11
I hope this can help you troubleshooting your problem!
pt_t830
well i have a Z4 ´06 and all work fine...to be honest i haven`t try it after last BMW nav (Professional) upgrade to V.29 but before this all was OK...Otherwise there was no possimility to use it with a new N or E Nokia
Bluetooth BMW
Try Jetware handsfree extension, works on BMW X3 and HTC Kaiser
12/19/2007
Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II)
Dropped calls sometimes occur when Bluetooth is on. If you encountered the same problem, please download this Bluetooth Hot Fix and install it on your device.
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This is from HTC's website... I hope it will fix your problem
Thanks for the hotfix link, unfortunately I forgot to mention I had already tried it and it didn't work.
I have radio version 1.27.21.11, same as you pt_t830.
I'll try that Jetware handsfree extension..
Tom Williams said:
Hi
How are you answering the incoming call?
Tom
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I have tried it both ways, but it makes no difference whether it is answered via the button on the steering wheel, the centre console or the phone - the audio will always come out the phone, not the car kit on the 2nd call. It does turn off the audio on the radio though, and it always rings through the car kit.
Even if the call is initiated from the car kit by browsing the phone book and dialling, no sound will come out the car kit - and then I realise it has already rung but the ringing tone has come out the phone and the other person has answered!
I had similar problems on my E46 M3. I have put jetware on and it's perfect now. I even get a mail indicator on the sat nav when I receive an SMS, never got that before!
Hello people,
i've been searching but couldn't find a thread about bluetooth carkit probs with diamond.
I have a parrot 3100 and always worked just fine with the wm6.1 device I had (Prophet).
But with diamond it's quite a mess.
When phone rings:
- Parrot rings
- Answers call
- Parrot mutes (? Mute-symbol on parrot)
- Cannot unmute, on phone there is no sound.
- Sometimes parrot disconnects a second or two.
When making call
- Also mute problem
- Other line can't hear me, must talk in phone?
Even buggy, sometimes hangs, just working really annoying, cannot rely on the carkit. Missed several callers today.
But, sometimes it just works...
Anyone recognised this, any fix or workaround? It should be able to work propery.
Also wonder, why my parrot gives the contacts as contact /m for mobile and contact /w for work in normal list, instead of grouping them under one name (contact -> work, mobile etc).
Have you tried firmware upgrade on your Parrot 3100?
http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/downloads
OMG what an Idea.
I'll take this laptop into my car and fix it.
I have the same parrot and I'm having similar issues. It's annoying because when it gets "muted", the parrot is functioning as if had a call and it blocks the music from the cd-player and it won't get unblocked until I turn off my car.
I think I'll try to update the parrot firmware as staroip said...
you can give this software a try.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
This has been solved similar problems with my CK3000.
\\yoshi
Version 4.17 of the Parrot software more than solved the issue!!
* good contact syncing
* better voice quality
* no hangs at all
I'm happy
Hi all,
I also have problems with bluetooth and my Audi Bluetooth kit:
Connecting and phoning works fine but:
the phonebook:
- Names are wrong displayed (Surename and name are switched)
- on every number he deleted the "+" ... :-( on the car-screen (MMI)
In the phonebook on the diamond all Numbers have the e.g. +49 ... but on the screen in my car there is no "+" and of course the number without the "+" does not work...
- special chars like ä, ö, .. are not displayed correktly...
So what can I do, and whats that Parrot software you are talking about? EDIT: I just saw the parrot is an external bluetooth kit, right? So no solution with parrot software for my problem
FYI: I had a sony ericsson W950i with Symbian before and there everything worked perfektly with my bluetooth car system, so I hope I can also fix the problems on my Diamond with WM 6.1 ...
Thanks,
MrDiamond.
How did you update your Parrot kit?
Can you do it over bluetooth?
Been using the TD in my Land Rover (Discovery 3) with its bluetooth PTI. Works like a dream.
Auto connects, access to dialled, missed and received calls. Address book navigation using head unit and steering wheel control.
Better than when using my Nokia N95... that never did work with the recent called, dialled, missed lists.
Ironically the LR PTI is made by Nokia
Just need a power charger now as having a bluetooth connection running all the time kills the battery big time.
yerfdog said:
How did you update your Parrot kit?
Can you do it over bluetooth?
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Yes, look at parrot site. New firmware is available there too.
Version 4.18 an same problems
Riel said:
Version 4.17 of the Parrot software more than solved the issue!!
* good contact syncing
* better voice quality
* no hangs at all
I'm happy
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I update to version 4.18 of the parrot software, and the same problems are here.
What is your Rom and Radio?.
Hi,
my Diamond works ok with my Parrot bluetooth car kit. The only thing that is really anoying me, it takes veeeery long until the Diamond has established the connection to the car kit. I have to drive for several minutes! until the Diamond connects. Before I had a Sony Ericcson phone where I did not have this problem.
Any ideas? Is this just because the Diamond is a WM phone?? Or is there a way to improve this?
Thanks
I use my diamond with a Parrot CK3300 - not sure if that is the same as yours. I only use it for handsfree since I use the Diamond's own GPS receiver. I don't have this problem - it picks up and pairs within seconds.
Have you flashed the Parrot with the latest software? I found that improved performance considerably - automatic update of contacts, user name on screen rather than phone name etc.
I use the Parrot CK3100 and the pick is almost instant; I've barely got in the car and started it up and the Parrot has picked up my Diamond. It was just as quick on my Hermes device too.
I also have a CK3100 and here's somewhat the same problem.
It connects in a few seconds, and it's usable.
But the synchronisation takes forever.....
That doesn't bother me, becouse I'm quite long in my car when driving to work...
But:
The phonebook in my CK3100 starts with the numbers wich are saved on the SIMcard.
All my friends are saved on the internal memory of the TD.
So if i want to call 'Anouk': I press 'A' on the CK3100.
It starts with the 'A' from the SIMcard.
Then I have to use the turning wheel, to scroll BACKwards to "anouk'!
So this takes a lot of time.... and is very, very unpracticle.
Someone a solution for this?
As I said before flashing the latest software onto my Parrot made it much better for syncing contacts. But I only need do it once - after that it only checks for changes. It should not be syncing each time because the Parrot should store the contacts itself.
Yep, just check the Parrot website to see what the latest update is for your particular BT device and try applying it. Saying that, I've not updated my one from factory.
Unfortunately I was not able to update my Parrot so far. I have only a CK3000 Evolution, Firmware version 5.08C. I guess I would need this special serial flash cable...
@ swissly
i have the same problems fw months ago. you have to delete the partnership's on your CK3000. press the red and the green button for more the 3 sec. (Erasing in progress) if this is done you can create a new partnership. hope that helps.
\\yoshi
swissly said:
Hi,
my Diamond works ok with my Parrot bluetooth car kit. The only thing that is really anoying me, it takes veeeery long until the Diamond has established the connection to the car kit. I have to drive for several minutes! until the Diamond connects. Before I had a Sony Ericcson phone where I did not have this problem.
Any ideas? Is this just because the Diamond is a WM phone?? Or is there a way to improve this?
Thanks
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Hello
For all of you who have a Parrot Bluetooth car kit listen up:
When you use any phone with any Parrot Bluetooth car kits please go to the Parrot support website to flash your car kit - http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/onlinehelpguides
This will update the device with the latest firmware and as Parrot continuly add new phones to their list it is must. I did it as soon as my HTC Diamond arrived and finds it pairs/syncs within 1 - 3 seconds of switching the car on. FYI I have a Parrot MK6100 device, which supports A2DP Bluetooth audio and is mint. Previous to this I had an SPV M700 and a Parrot CK3100-something, but same thing - update it and you will find it solves the problem(s).
- PLEASE HOWEVER READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON FLASHING - IT AIN'T HARD BUT READ IT ANYWAY!!! -
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I still think I CANNOT UPDATE my Parrot CK3000 Evolution WITHOUT THE PARROT SERIAL CABLE!
swissly said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I still think I CANNOT UPDATE my Parrot CK3000 Evolution WITHOUT THE PARROT SERIAL CABLE!
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You are correct AFAIK. Most other Parrots can be updated easily using bluetooth, but not that one. Probably why it was cheaper than the others.