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Screen Align not working? DOA?

Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?

foaf said:
Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?
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It might be a simple loose connection or something trapped between screen and bezel. But I would not be even thinking about that, it would be going straight back under warranty. Thankfully, this is not a common problem with the Kaiser and I think you have just been unlucky.
I assume you have not put on any screen protector that might be causing this behaviour> Otherwise it is a DOA and nothing you can/should do other than return.
Mike

Thanks. I hope its not common! No screen protector, but I did try one first before first boot. I immediately removed it when the taps weren't working. I'll send it back tomorrow, thanks.

Dont tap. Just lightly drag the end of the stylus around each target until it proceeds to the next one.
It's common and should be fine.

Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem

foaf said:
Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem
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If the future device does it, just try what I suggested but be as accurate as you can.

Unwired's method works for me as well. My Kaiser always seems to lose the ability to detect stylus presses (but finger pressure works) every time I use it on a plane which I assume is due to the cabin pressure. When the screen is reset, everything goes back to normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or do I have some defect that is only going to get worse?

I got the second Kaiser, and it happened again. But I immediatley used unwireds method, this time being extremely precise and only moving the stylus slightly. It works fine now, and stylus accurancy seems to be ok.
I still think it's strange, as I have had an HTC XDA before and a tap was sufficient on the screen align process. Furthermore it clearly states "tap screen" not "tap and drag".

My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.

unwired4 said:
My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.
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For me it is more like 'tap-and-hold'. I make a firm tap on the '+' symbol, then keep the stylus pressed on the screen for one second, then release. The '+' then moves to the next alignment point.

Just for the record, I think the problem is common!
I've seen many people who have unresponsive touchscreens, and now I'm one of those unlucky people. And nothing works. And I don't have warranty because I'm in a different country than the purchase country and the reseller here only services phone bought in the Middle East. #[email protected]$#@$#@

Touchscreen won't work!

My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.

Ozark_8125 said:
My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.
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Maybe its a loose connection?

Uh - is there a way to tighten it??? ;-)

Any ideas? If the screen is hosed - any suggestions as to who could repair it?

Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?

Ozark_8125 said:
Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?
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just did mine, it's not TOO bad.. just 4 screws and a lot of careful prying but it's definately doable. There is a how to somewhere on here. If I were you I'd try the tool that lets you skip the screen setup and see if your touch screen works otherwise... strange thing is when I try to align my screen right now it freezes my phone on the "align screen" screen... so hopefully that's what is happening to you and you dont need a new screen. so yeah look for the align screen skip and see if it works.

Thanks for the info - I'll look around for the skip alignment tool. I assume the screws were those outer four teeny tiny torx screws?

OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.

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OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.
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glad to hear you've got it working and saved yourself a headache... you might want to try sliding it open and giving it a squeeze below the screen but above the buttons... that's where the screen attaches to the board... give it a try.

OK - more of a 'tard moment for me - the screen protector was jamming against the screen. I figured that out after I had the whole back off and pried open to look internally to see what was going on and then noticed the screen was working fine with the back off.... oh geeze, time for a stiff drink. Thanks for the suggestions - you guys are cheap therapy bahahahahhaaaa!!!

Look out for dust particles
Glad you found out what was wrong. I would like to add that in general, if a touch screen is unresponsive, examine the device for dust particles stuck between the plastic and the touchscreen. It will be understood as a tap by the touchscreen, thereby rendering your own tabs unrecognized. I've tried that 2 times now.

I had a similar problem with my touchscreen. Sometimes it doesn't recognize my touch with a finger or stylus. I have to keep pushing the same spot for it to register the touch.
Now I took a needle and cleaned the space between plastic and touchscreen. For now it seems that it helped. Lets see how it works for now on.
Thanks.

ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
at leats you admint the retardness

D'oh.. the problem stays. Do I have to open the whole machine, and clean it that way, or can the problem be in the software?
I think, that after a soft reset the screen works properly, but after a little while it overlooks some of my taps.

What SPL are you running? Are you experiencing the 'screen freezes'?

"XDA-Developers HTC Kaiser HardSPL CID Unlocker v1.0" says in the readme.txt file. Does 'screen freezes' mean that I can't do nothing with the screen, or what? What is the SPL's job in the PPC, I thought it was needed only for the OS flashing.

OK, now I know what you mean with screen freeze. It sure does freese. So the problem is not in the touchscreen, but in somewhere else? The whole phone freezes in time to time.

what spl are you running?

OK, I suppose that was a tip. Thanks for the tip. I upgraded my SPL from 1.0 Olipof to HardSPL 3.56.
Everything started going very smoothly for now. Lets see how it keeps being smooth after couple days of using.

Kaiser Touch Screen not responding.

Hey guys I have flashed my Kaiser with a clean rom last night, everything went awesome, phoned work excellent just the way I wanted, and my hands were wet as the phone rang and now all of a sudden my Touch Screen doesnt work, nothing seems to be wrong with the phone itself, everything is still displayed on the screen.
Now I might need to send it back for repairs, but I reset to factory defaults couple min ago, and it says "Tap screen to begin" and I can't get any further?
Active sync or nothing works in that stage, how is it possible that I can flash my kaiser back to factory defaults if this is the case?
Isnt there a way of skipping that "Tap screen to begin" message?
Thanks a lot, any help is appreciated.

Gozzy69a said:
Hey guys I have flashed my Kaiser with a clean rom last night, everything went awesome, phoned work excellent just the way I wanted, and my hands were wet as the phone rang and now all of a sudden my Touch Screen doesnt work, nothing seems to be wrong with the phone itself, everything is still displayed on the screen.
Now I might need to send it back for repairs, but I reset to factory defaults couple min ago, and it says "Tap screen to begin" and I can't get any further?
Active sync or nothing works in that stage, how is it possible that I can flash my kaiser back to factory defaults if this is the case?
Isnt there a way of skipping that "Tap screen to begin" message?
Thanks a lot, any help is appreciated.
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here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568

Yo thanks man,
I have flashed my phone back to HTC's rom, touch screen still doesn't work, I can use the phone now again, I have skipped that process where it asks you to align the screen to begin with a program called Code Factory's Remote screen alignment (RSA)
Now I'm in Bahrain (middle east) at the moment, I bought the phone in South-Africa where I used to live, So I'm gonna have to use the phone for a while until I can send it in for repairs.
So just have one more problem, I can't seem to change the Main volume in the taskbar without using the touch screen, Is there any other way of changing the volume, coz I cant hear my phone when it rings at times.
Shot guys,

to adjust the volume, move the trackwheel up or down during a call, so you're gonna have to call someone.
as for vibrating, you've got me there

Man,that must be a pain that touch screen doesn't working.
Try googling MyMobiler, install on your PC, connect your PDA and it will autoinstall itself to your PDA too.
Run MyMobiler on the PC. Next thing you know you can control your PDA without even touching it at all ;-)
Cheers!

schizo said:
Man,that must be a pain that touch screen doesn't working.
Try googling MyMobiler, install on your PC, connect your PDA and it will autoinstall itself to your PDA too.
Run MyMobiler on the PC. Next thing you know you can control your PDA without even touching it at all ;-)
Cheers!
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or get mDesktop form the net - it will give you remote desktop capabilities to your PDA + much more ....

yo guys, just wanna let u guys know, the problem sorted itself out, in the future if you guys experience the problem, put ur phone close to a TUBE T.V, and let the static fix it for u, I was busy trying to get this OLD t.v sorted out in the Hotel where we are living in Bahrain, and I couldn't see at the back, and I used my phone as a flash light to see what's going on lol, and then my Touch screen started working again.........anyone care to explain this..?
Phone is in complete working order again, happy flashing for me once again hehe.

Man, I had the same problem and I was quite desperate. I was going to replace my Vodafone 1615 (the brandized version of Tytn II) when I found your post.
I put the phone near a CRT Monitor and then magically the touch-screen was working again!
Thank you to disclose your experience.

Can anyone explain why this might work?

I had the same problems. Touched yesterday mine htc kaiser with wet fingers and the touch screen did not respond. I thought that is the same problem with humidity that I had in Amazonia. That time it got solved by heating the phone with notebook. Pillow - kaiser - notebook for few hours :-D
But this time heating did not work... With doubt I approached old CRT tv and static energy from it SOLVED mine problem too. I am happy that I did not throw it away after buying LCD one. This is the time when new technology needs some old school energy :-D

rdee said:
With doubt I approached old CRT tv and static energy from it SOLVED mine problem too. I am happy that I did not throw it away after buying LCD one. This is the time when new technology needs some old school energy :-D
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Did you have the phone off or on , did you touch it to the screen or side of tv, and how long did you hold the phone there, this would be awesome if it works, I've been freaking out the last couple of days.

me too! i brushed my phone around the tv for 30 seconds.. no luck...

ardley216 said:
me too! i brushed my phone around the tv for 30 seconds.. no luck...
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I think we were fooled.

bwnotredame06 said:
I think we were fooled.
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Static can kill touch screens
I killed my old WM2003 device by sliding down a plastic slide with my kids at the park.

Hi folks!
I had the same problem: change my at&t tilt rom/radio/spl to htc.
result: touch screen does not working!
The only way that i found is undo changes:
1º - installing and using: Remote screen Alignment to skip the first screen calibration. Just power on Tilt and wait until activesync are connected, so, run "remote screen alignment" and click skip, if the phone does not restart, do a soft reset.
2º - In the next power on, use activesync to copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your phone.
3º - use the buttons to navigate and execute JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe on the phone. (to execute JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe file use the ENTER key of the sliding keyboard).
4º- now just replace RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe (OEM ROM i think)/ bootloader spl1.93.0/1.56 (maybe the screen problem occurs due the wrong spl/rom combination or newer spl like 3.28/3.29 ).
After these steps my AT&T Tilt touch screen is back to work!
Now i'm ready to try others roms again !!
PS: Sorry for poor english, if anybody don't understand anything just ask!

parmito said:
Hi folks!
I had the same problem: change my at&t tilt rom/radio/spl to htc.
result: touch screen does not working!
The only way that i found is undo changes:
1º - installing and using: Remote screen Alignment to skip the first screen calibration. Just power on Tilt and wait until activesync are connected, so, run "remote screen alignment" and click skip, if the phone does not restart, do a soft reset.
2º - In the next power on, use activesync to copy JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to your phone.
3º - use the buttons to navigate and execute JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe on the phone. (to execute JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe file use the ENTER key of the sliding keyboard).
4º- now just replace RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe (OEM ROM i think)/ bootloader spl1.93.0/1.56 (maybe the screen problem occurs due the wrong spl/rom combination or newer spl like 3.28/3.29 ).
After these steps my AT&T Tilt touch screen is back to work!
Now i'm ready to try others roms again !!
PS: Sorry for poor english, if anybody don't understand anything just ask!
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thank you so much for taking the time to post your solution! My kaiser was dead after it got soaked in vinegair..keys were sticky, device wouldnt charge or even turn on..
what i did is put the kaiser in a bowl of water and let it rest for a few hours. Then i took it out and put it in a bowl of uncooked rice (rice sucks up water!) and let it rest overnight. My kaiser came out great with everything working fine except....the touchscreen wouldnt respond. I flashed several roms but all to no avail.
I then followed your instructions and miraculously this strange at&t rom brought my touchscreen back to life!
So thanks again

Tilt Problems...Help

I have an AT&T Tilt...until Friday it worked great...It has WM6.1, HTC Home and spb Mobile Shell.... Friday I changed the screen protector from the same pack that I have used for months and then the problems started.... Randomly when I try to touch the screen it appears to lock up, but then the start menu will drop down. The soft buttons work, but then every once in a while the start menu will drop down again. I have soft reset to no avail, but then in an hour or so it will start working fine again. Anyone have any ideas, does it sound like a hardware or software problem? should I hard reset the phone and start over? Help
Thanks
Andy

pull off your screen protector.
chances are you have it touching on a side which causes pressure somewhere else and it (touchscreen) thinks its being touched in a different place.
which in turn makes you believe its locked up, since it does not have multi-touch touchscreen it will not respond because it is perceiving a touch somewhere else.

Thank You...Thank You... I believe that was the problem.....

[Q] Help! I am having screen alignment problems

Okay.
Here I go.
I have an HTC TyTN II which has NO ROM modifications.
I did a clear storage (because I wanted a 'clean' start on my phone as I had clunked it up) and got stuck on the screen align loop.
So I used Remote Screen Align to skip the screen alignment.
It worked.
But now my touch screen is badly messed up!
I tested it with the game pocketsand. If i touch somewhere on the screen, it responds somewhere else.
How do you fix this??? Can someone please help me out here?
Thanks in advance.

Nvm phone got destroyed