Alright, I've been really upset with the performance of the video camera & playback on my Tilt. In desperation I installed an HTC Application for the Apache which allows you to overclock to 520 or 624. I've been playing with this for a full 10 days now & have to say that aty the 520mhz video is bettyer than bearable, I've had no freezes & my battery draw is roughly the same as before I installed HTC Performance. This does not scale with steps like other over/under-clocking programs, so I just activate it when I need video cam or with TCPMP. It's working Great for me.
The original OEM app it was extracted from has helmi's name on it. I can't figure out what it does, but there is a significant diference for me when running at 520mhz especially in Video Cam mode.
If you want it, get it here: http://rapidshare.com/files/72529266/HTC_Performance__with_shortcut_.cab
GSLEON3 said:
Alright, I've been really upset with the performance of the video camera & playback on my Tilt. In desperation I installed an HTC Application for the Apache which allows you to overclock to 520 or 624. I've been playing with this for a full 10 days now & have to say that aty the 520mhz video is bettyer than bearable, I've had no freezes & my battery draw is roughly the same as before I installed HTC Performance. This does not scale with steps like other over/under-clocking programs, so I just activate it when I need video cam or with TCPMP. It's working Great for me.
The original OEM app it was extracted from has helmi's name on it. I can't figure out what it does, but there is a significant diference for me when running at 520mhz especially in Video Cam mode.
If you want it, get it here: http://rapidshare.com/files/72529266/HTC_Performance__with_shortcut_.cab
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I installed - I enabled - I checked my Device Info (still 400). I ran sk benchmark with it on and off and results almost exactly the same. On what are you basing your info?
Tried it here to, doesn't seem to do anything for me either
sugar pill
I tried it too and noticed no difference LOL, I think its one of those times when someone thinks there running faster due to there special shoes
what's really interesting is that this program isn't even working writing the registry entries correctly. Under HKLM/Software/HTC/ this app writes a key called HTC_Misc. In that key are 2 sub-keys regarding the overclock. With the option to overclock turned off in the application, if you look at the registry you'll find that the ovefclocking is turned on. When you select 500mhz it turns off the overclocking registry. If you set it to 624 mhz, the keys are both set to 1 (on). I think this app needs some more work as it's not working correctly.
Maybe it's a sugar pill...
Yeah, I know fast shoes & all that. The funny thing is that almost all the Apache users found that the benchmarks were simillar to not using this app. but the majority of them also said that their unit was much more responsive. If it's a Placebo effect, it's a good one & I'll take it because my video cam actually captures things that are moving now, not just a blur. I'll reset & see if Tracker picks up any other changes anywhere else in the registry.
As far as what I'm currently basing my oppinion on, it's just that my camera is capturing moving people & items clearly.
GSLEON3 said:
Yeah, I know fast shoes & all that. The funny thing is that almost all the Apache users found that the benchmarks were simillar to not using this app. but the majority of them also said that their unit was much more responsive. If it's a Placebo effect, it's a good one & I'll take it because my video cam actually captures things that are moving now, not just a blur. I'll reset & see if Tracker picks up any other changes anywhere else in the registry.
As far as what I'm currently basing my oppinion on, it's just that my camera is capturing moving people & items clearly.
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what speed are you using?
smittyofdhs said:
what speed are you using?
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Funny enough, the 520 setting feels faster & camera works better for me. Strange though.
a faster processor isnt going to reduce the required exposure time
I understand that, & I'm strictly talking about overall sys. response & the Video Cam. Before when people were moving it as horrible, they appeared as just a blur of motion. Now it records movements much more clearly. The only other thing I've done is installed TomTOm6 w/ a few maps.
I'll tell you what, I'll make a screen recording of video with & with out this applied & you will see what I mean.
Are you sure you're not just taking photos in better light conditions at the moment? The kaiser automatically switches to night mode when the light is poor, and then the camera becomes unusable.
also please review the post I meade eralier about registry keys. When this app is set to 520, the actual registry entries show that overclocking is turned off.
This is DEFINITELY Placebo effect.
dang, this got me pretty excited...
Just as a final nail I tested corecodec benchmark of the spiderman3 movie I have on storage.
Non Over - 97.43% playback rate
520 - 96.62
640 - 96.00
So all in all I think we can call this one dead.
PS: Yes it does piss me off the playback isnt 100%+ but thats the drivers thread not this one.
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is there a way? I tried searching but did not come up with the info i was looking for.
Bäcker said:
is there a way? I tried searching but did not come up with the info i was looking for.
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Open up the camera and switch trouch the options, you'll find it
video recording, not photo
as far as i know it is somehow software limited to 320x240
OK, and at least is there any way to switch off thing which is slowering the camera? I think it is automatic white balance. My brother´s Asus P535 has the sport option, which disable autobalance and the camera is smoothly, no slowdown, but I am not sure if this is autobalace wchich cause slowdown, anyway I am sure you know what I am talking about.
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OK, and at least is there any way to switch off thing which is slowering the camera? I think it is automatic white balance. My brother´s Asus P535 has the sport option, which disable autobalance and the camera is smoothly, no slowdown, but I am not sure if this is autobalace wchich cause slowdown, anyway I am sure you know what I am talking about.
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you mean recording video not smooth in a little dark area or in a night ?
if that so same problem in my old touch dual dont know how to fix this
I dont think this is a problem, just there is missing the mod withount white balance, like P535 has. P535 has the same problem, but like I said, there is a sport mod, which is really fast.
Aqrab said:
you mean recording video not smooth in a little dark area or in a night ?
if that so same problem in my old touch dual dont know how to fix this
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I dont think this is a problem, just there is missing the mod withount white balance, like P535 has. P535 has the same problem, but like I said, there is a sport mod, which is really fast.
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i posts a lot about this ! but
i really dont like the recording in a dark craaaap
its like recording 5 frames per second or even lower
most if people record video in the night in a party or somthing , but what the point of video recorder if you cant record smoothly !!?!!
the p3600 record perfectly in a dark CIF size , mp4 , 12 to 13 frames per second
Like I said, it isnt bug literally. There just missing mod which disables image-enhancer software which is slowering device.
pokevitek said:
Like I said, it isnt bug literally. There just missing mod which disables image-enhancer software which is slowering device.
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found this in Diamond Tweaks thread
To Enable 'Sport mode': HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P8 -> change the value "enabled" from 0 to 1
To Enable 'Burst mode': HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P6 -> change the value "enabled" from 0 to 1
To Enable 'Video Share': HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P9 -> change the value "enabled" from 0 to 1
what about the audio quality?
teh recorded sound is 8 khz and sounds poor.
i found some registry keys about the sample rate, but
has anyone changed the values with success?
i want chrystal clrear tone, like some voice memo apps.
found this
Go into registry
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam/
and set
CapKeyDelayTime = 15 (old=1500)
CaptureTimer = 50 (old=5000)
it make the camera take picture in no time so you dont need to worry about moving your hand in dark area
Aqrab said:
found this
Go into registry
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam/
and set
CapKeyDelayTime = 15 (old=1500)
CaptureTimer = 50 (old=5000)
it make the camera take picture in no time so you dont need to worry about moving your hand in dark area
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Thank you very much for these tweak. I seldom get blurry pictures now even in low light condition.
I've tried recording videos with both "normal" and "high" frame rate options, it doesn't seem to do anything, any ideas why it's there?
The info button says it's the rate at which videos are captured, so would that indicate if it works you'd get slow motion video?
i've been wonderin about that option myself....and changin it really doesnt seem to do anything at all...
There is a pretty clear difference.
However, the X1i is the only phone that has the difference.
It's not completely noticable on the Xperia, but if you play the video on the computer,
there will be a noticable difference in the framerate. Give it a shot!
just open files on advanced player and press PROPERTIES
Frame Rate: > 10fps or 24 fps
the problem is that the framerate goes down when the brightness is low..then the camera gets laggy in recording mode...so there has to be a setting that we can change the minimum frame rate
please developers HELP
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\SonyEricsson\Camera]
"PROPERTY_MAX_MMS_LENGTH" = dword:0
"PROPERTY_MAX_MMS_SIZE" = dword:95D97
"PROPERTY_MMS_RESTRICT_RESOLUTION" = dword:1
"PROPERTY_VIDEO_QVGA_KBYTE_RATE" = dword:14
"PROPERTY_VIDEO_VGA_KBYTE_RATE" = dword:1
"PROPERTY_EXTERNAL_CAMERA_DIRECTORY" = "DCIM"
"VersionInfo" = "R19"
"ApplicationName" = "\\XperiaCamera\\CameraRunner.exe"
bummler said:
the problem is that the framerate goes down when the brightness is low..then the camera gets laggy in recording mode...so there has to be a setting that we can change the minimum frame rate
please developers HELP
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Try BsB tweaks 1.6 it has an option to increase video bitrate. If this post helped press thanks.
ok,does it works on windows 6.1? and is it good to change to mpeg4 recording? what settings you used? would you please upload a video to see the difference?
bummler said:
ok,does it works on windows 6.1? and is it good to change to mpeg4 recording? what settings you used? would you please upload a video to see the difference?
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I have no idea if it works on 6.1 because I don't use 6.1. The settings I used are the ones that improved camera and video quality to me they seemed like they worked I hardly use my camera and video anyway , I don't think the OP would put it improves camera and video quality if didn't. I'm not a bout to upload videos that's way to much of my time and effort when this is not my problem. Go ahead and install the cab and find out for yourself .
does i have to be carefull with this tweak,which settings i should change there?
my x1 quality is not that good...yours?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDZqi3PBqLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Kb9Wmr5_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F912UyxU2hs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSRY99p7y6M
hm ok i installed it on the storage card but i cant see a difference,when i do a soft reset
its recording in vga not mpeg4 and i cant see any hidden camera modes..what does i have to do that the tweaks settings are visible
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hm ok i installed it on the storage card but i cant see a difference,when i do a soft reset
its recording in vga not mpeg4 and i cant see any hidden camera modes..what does i have to do that the tweaks settings are visible
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To start off if you are installing tweaks you always want to install them in the main phone memory unless the app says otherwise. I looked into what you were saying and made an interesting discovery the tweaks are not meant for the X1's camera. In the rom I'm using now I went to my multimedia folder and found separate camera and video software( most likely HD2 or rhodiums or HTC camera and video). I went into the software and found all the options the tweaks are supposed to unlock. The hidden video formats are H.263 and 4, 3GPP2, MPEG 4, and Motion JPEG. To my suprise the highest resolution is CIF(352x288). I tried all the video formats and all are very laggy the X1's video camera is way better. I only use BsB tweaks for the Power saving, Policies, SMS Wake Up, Gyph Cache and TCIP/IP Cache. The videos you posted look actually pretty good and the one where you were riding on the bike and past the man be pushed in a wagon made me laugh so hard
hehe these videos are just samples for good quality xperia x1 videos,i found on youtube. i dont made them. my quality is not that good i think. i installed the bsb tweak now on the main memory but really no changes (
highest resolution is CIF(352x288) i would like to see a video in that quality on xperia x1...is there any other good solution? at the moment i use vga,wide screen and endless focus
thx for help
bummler said:
hehe these videos are just samples for good quality xperia x1 videos,i found on youtube. i dont made them. my quality is not that good i think. i installed the bsb tweak now on the main memory but really no changes (
highest resolution is CIF(352x288) i would like to see a video in that quality on xperia x1...is there any other good solution? at the moment i use vga,wide screen and endless focus
thx for help
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Ya I seen a couple of your posts in different threads saying they are sample videos lol. Believe me when I say this it is very bad with CIF and it is not in fullscreen view mode, very laggy/ blurry when you move it's not even worth uploading a video to show it's that bad. Try macro focus instead of endless see if that improves anything. Also maybe overclocking your phone with more speed might give a better framerate also idk.
ok,i installed wimospeed..how much does i can push up the mhz that it doesnt influence the battery life
bummler said:
ok,i installed wimospeed..how much does i can push up the mhz that it doesnt influence the battery life
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Your battery life is going to be the same regardless of the increase of mhz. Every Xperia is different so the results of how high you can push it is going to be different. Try 652 to start.
it doesnt influence the battery life?
Thats a pretty good tool...652,8mhz and its mainly faster but the frame rate in video recording seems to be the same or?
if you have some more usefull tools,let me know.
p.s. my homescreen etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656584&page=122
bummler said:
it doesnt influence the battery life?
Thats a pretty good tool...652,8mhz and its mainly faster but the frame rate in video recording seems to be the same or?
if you have some more usefull tools,let me know.
p.s. my homescreen etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656584&page=122
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I Pm you some good apps, Thank this post if you found them useful .
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\SonyEricsson\Camera]
"PROPERTY_MAX_MMS_LENGTH" = dword:0
"PROPERTY_MAX_MMS_SIZE" = dword:95D97
"PROPERTY_MMS_RESTRICT_RESOLUTION" = dword:1
"PROPERTY_VIDEO_QVGA_KBYTE_RATE" = dword:14
"PROPERTY_VIDEO_VGA_KBYTE_RATE" = dword:1
"PROPERTY_EXTERNAL_CAMERA_DIRECTORY" = "DCIM"
"VersionInfo" = "R19"
"ApplicationName" = "\\XperiaCamera\\CameraRunner.exe"
is there a chance to change the framerate???
when the light is bad,the framerate goes down :0(,maybe the developers have a solution
the same here
I have the same issue, it is a shame... nice phone, though
EDIT: [email protected] has been added to nightly and bitrate has been set to 12mbps which is not that bad. Its hence not recommended to flash these anymore. If you want higher bitrate look in the thread for those. I think it was pastime who made them. Alternatively use root explorer to manually edit /etc/mediaprofiles.XML. again, read pastimes and related posts in the thread on that.
This will replace the Camera.apk from CM7 with a more tegra2 friendly version that enables [email protected] recording. There's also included an updated media_profiles.xml file that'll enable different bitrates. Choose wisely . To test the bitrate I recommend having it running for at a minute to make sure everything can keep up. Usually it starts out smooth and then starts stuttering as the ram gets filled up. I also upped the quality for still.
Videos (I'll add experimental stuff as well, such as ultra high bitrates and auto focus):
http://www.youtube.com/user/O2XdevVids
I would stay away with 64mb ram hacks for the time being. Maybe we can find some middle ground in the future .
Anyway, please give me feedback on how it works. Some beautiful videos would be nice. Weather is really depressing here.
Please don't use this for non-tegra 2 devices.
Also, I'm experimenting a lot. Expect a lot to be buggy. I do my best not to put something out that doesn't work, but a couple of runs is really the extend of my testing before it goes up (to be honest). The autofocus-mod is seriously buggy. The bitrate-mod should be pretty much as buggy as the std. cm7 Camera app.
And, of course, thx to all the great ppl who works on cm.
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Source code (just the 1080p mod):
https://github.com/LeJay/Camera
Versions & Changelog & TODO
--------------Autofocus1.1----------------- (Note this is horribly buggy)
Just adds auto focus (and 25/30fps if you're on nightly), no change to bitrate. Flash this AFTER you do the bitrate mods. Flashing with any of the bitrate mods will replace the Camera app and you'll lose autofocus.
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--------------FullHDmod 1.0---------------
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@20mbps
High: [email protected]@12mbps
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--------------FullHDmod_high 1.0---------- (works for some, requires fast sd card)
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@26mbps
High: [email protected]@12mbps
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--------------FullHDmod_mid 1.0---------- (Recommended)
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@17mbps
High: [email protected]@12mbps
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--------------FullHDmod_low 1.0----------
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@14mbps
High: [email protected]@12mbps
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--------------FullHDmod_LG 1.0---------- (It's the settings used as stock LG... except for 1080p being 30fps)
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@9mbps
High: [email protected]@4mbps
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----------BitrateMod(720p only)---------- (Does not replace Camera.apk. Works for 64mb ram hack, until we find other solution)
->Video:
HD: [email protected]@20mbps
High: [email protected]@10mbps
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All audio is 128 kbps and all stills are:
Super fine: 100
Fine: 90
Normal: 80
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1.0 Initial release.
---- Small bugfix of CM7s camera app + tegra 2 specific stuff.
1.1-pre-alpha
---- Enables autofocus prior to video capture. Cannot be turned off(I don't do UIs,lol). Need to restart app for each video.
Autofocus 1.1
---- No need to restart app.
Known issues:
Does no longer auto adjust for exposure while recording. In between recordings it will auto adjust again. (I have no idea why).
Cannot disable autofocus (have no idea how to do UI).
Rather buggy, lots of freezes. For best results, don't push it. Ie. don't start and stop recordings rapidly, stuff like that.
Don't switch quickly to video when opening app... I think that might be a cm7 issue.
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Touch to focus.
continuous auto-focus.
FAQ
Q: Does this work for non-CM7 ROMS?
A: Probably not. Certainly not froyo. But feel free to try and let me know. On stock rom-based builds, please look at somemadcaaant's awesome work at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090785.
Q: T-Mobile LG G2x support?
A: Yes.
Q: What are the disadvantages?
A: Larger filesize. Takes longer to save (give it time to save before doing anything else with the phone). Potential issues with playback on phone.
Q: Does this work with 64 mb ram hack?
A: No. You can still use a high bitrate 720p mod for that kernel, though.
Q: It stutters after a few secs of recording or freezes once in a while, why is this?
A: Your phone/sdcard is having issues trying to keep up. Try a lower bitrate mod. If there is no lower, ask for one. I'm experimenting a little myself, trying to find a stable bitrate.
Q: If I open the Camera app and very quickly change to video I get a black screen?
A: Don't do that. I get the same bug on std. cm7 Camera app.
Q: Isn't it overkill with an FAQ for a camera mod?
A: Yes. But people kept asking the same questions last time I made a thread.
THX so much I will test it and report.
i would also add "touch to re-focus during video capture"(like in htc's) to the to-do list
Tegra 2 is some impressive hardware.... bitrate goes up crazy high. I'll add some different versions, but do people have any thoughts on what kind of bit rates they'd like to see?
Damn, I think maybe my sdcard cant keep up with the ultra high bit rates I'm testing. Starts stuttering after 10 sec. Maybe someone out there with a class 10 card?
When switching on video mode, i get a black screen and FC afterwards.
ranrick said:
When switching on video mode, i get a black screen and FC afterwards.
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I purposely made my tweaks so code is first running when you actually start recording... If it's a new problem it's because of the settings file.
Tried restarting the app?
Work great for me on Kang today buid !
gregman26 said:
Work great for me on Kang today buid !
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Great news.
LeJay said:
I purposely made my tweaks so code is first running when you actually start recording... If it's a new problem it's because of the settings file.
Tried restarting the app?
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I reinstalled. Thereafter i was able to start it. But Recording doesn't work so far.It starts at 720P but when ending the recodring, I get a FC. 1080p keeps black screen and no FC and no recording. Maybe because of the 64MB RAM hack in the vorkKernal.
Thanks LeJay
But i have a bug.... The video is lagging(I think my Sd Card is Class 2), so i think it is because of the high bitrate. And sometimes after shooting a video the camera just freezes and i have to pull the battery..
LG O2x, Latest Kang, stock kernel.
ranrick said:
I reinstalled. Thereafter i was able to start it. But Recording doesn't work so far.It starts at 720P but when ending the recodring, I get a FC. 1080p keeps black screen and no FC and no recording. Maybe because of the 64MB RAM hack in the vorkKernal.
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Okay, so it officially doesn't work with the 64 mb ram hack. Not surprising. You can enable high bitrate 720p with some of my other mods.
TattooHtc said:
Thanks LeJay
But i have a bug.... The video is lagging(I think my Sd Card is Class 2), so i think it is because of the high bitrate. And sometimes after shooting a video the camera just freezes and i have to pull the battery..
LG O2x, Latest Kang, stock kernel.
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Isnt that the case with cm7 nightlies and 1080p recording?
Can someone up a vid?
TattooHtc said:
Thanks LeJay
But i have a bug.... The video is lagging(I think my Sd Card is Class 2), so i think it is because of the high bitrate. And sometimes after shooting a video the camera just freezes and i have to pull the battery..
LG O2x, Latest Kang, stock kernel.
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Hmm... I just recorded for 1 min straight with no issue. I do get similar issues on som2e of the higher bitrates I've been toying with(40mbps can make most sd cards cry). Does it start lagging as soon as you start recording?
I'm going to make higher and lower bitrate versions.
Works beautifully on the G2x as well. Thanks
@LeJay: you should contact arcee to include your mod in CM tree
TattooHtc said:
Thanks LeJay
But i have a bug.... The video is lagging(I think my Sd Card is Class 2), so i think it is because of the high bitrate. And sometimes after shooting a video the camera just freezes and i have to pull the battery..
LG O2x, Latest Kang, stock kernel.
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Could you try the low bitrate mod?
Works grat! 40 sec of video went from 18mb to 99mb. Now that we need a fast memory isn't better to use the internal memory?
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@LeJay: you should contact arcee to include your mod in CM tree
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Agreed.
LeJay, I also think that you should contact Ricardo (arcee) and see if he can merge you changes. He just changed from 1080 to 1088 the other day in the .xml file so we can record 1080p nativly. Kinda wierd that you have to set it to 1088?
The best thing would of course be if he could include all the different modes/profiles for us to freely choose:
"FPS: 15, 25, 30"
"Resolution: 1080p, 720p, ..."
"Bitrate: X, Y, Z"
"Sound: 44 Khz, ..."
etc... because I know my class 2 card can't keep up at the best options. Going to buy me a new one soon though.
Send him a message and see if he's interested. His todo list probably is long though....
Anyone try this out? Does it work? If so, what rom are you running, and did you need to change anything?
Link here.
I'm at work but I'm really curious; Skype says it will work with *some* 2.2 devices, and if you have 2 cameras the wrong camera will work but we have only one camera so we might be in luck.
Fingers crossed...
Just installed it.. Will try it out!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
I tried it briefly in Vegan tab 5.1.1.
-Everything aside from video calling seemed to operate well. This includes voice calls.
-The video call function was not available in the settings menu.
When I read through the skype announcement I noticed that it will only show video of rear facing camera's in froyo. Can the front facing camera be spoofed to work like a rear facing camera?
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Can the front facing camera be spoofed to work like a rear facing camera?
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Yes, I think it can. I recall when trying to get Yahoo Messenger working for video calls, some genius developer modified the Yahoo app to add a "swap cameras" button. It worked, but the video was always transmitted and displayed sideways.
My fingers are crossed that it works out of the box, even if it's only in Froyo. This would get me to (sadly) downgrade from GtabComb.
Tested with ROMs:
- VEGAn-TAB 5.1.1 - No video option. Darn it.
- CM 7.0.3 (Stable) - No video option
- I wanted to try it on Clemsyn-Caulkin v5, but the keyboard was acting funky after loading that ROM. Pressing any numbers acted like I was pressing the BACK button. Weird. I might try it again later.
Skype has said that with 2-camera Froyo devices only the rear camera will work. We have only one camera, so here's hoping...
I'm under the impression that our front camera is actually the "rear" camera according to the system.
There is only an API for one camera by default, it wasn't until Gingerbread that they started differentiating between a front and rear camera. That's why older apps work with only certain front facing cameras- the developer had to figure out how to call the front camera on each device individually since it wasn't a standard system function.
This is why ReelPortal works on our tablets- Adobe Air (which the app was written in) recognizes only the rear camera currently, so most tablets can't be used for chatting with it. But on the G-tablet (and certain Archos tablets), there is only one camera and the system recognizes it as "the" camera.
I would assume that any app which uses the camera would see our front camera as the system camera (a.k.a rear camera). That has been my experience with market apps that use the camera, at least.
I think there is some other reason the video option is disabled. I just tried installing skype on an Optimus S as well (budget android phone with only a rear camera, also running froyo), and the option is not there either.
Skype says "Unfortunately, if you cannot see the video calling settings, it means your Android phone does not meet the minimum requirements needed to make Skype video calls". That's ridiculous. It looks like someone needs to rip open the app and find out where that restriction is.
This is beyond my realm of hacking ability. Anyone with skills willing to look at this?
Hey I found these posts while digging through a few different threads and thought i would leave it here for other G-Tab users who are following this thread. Thanks Dishe for asking all the questions in the other forums. Unfortunately it's not looking so hot for skype video calling on the G-Tab at this point. I will keep watching patiently hoping that someday it will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16337833&postcount=399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16338146&postcount=1061
Yes- just to update everyone, here's what I found out.
Skype chose to use something called the NEON instruction set for hardware-based acceleration of video encoding / decoding. Problem is, not every mobile processor supports this instruction set (usually lower end hardware, like my LG Optimus). The Tegra 2 does not support NEON at all, and that is why our tablets don't offer the video option, and the ones that are hacked to work (by skipping the device check) will just crash after trying to sign in.
So, it is currently not possible for Skype to work on the G-tablet as long as they are pushing NEON acceleration.
This is the first time I've ever been upset to have a Tegra. All this time I actually wanted the G-tab BECAUSE of the high end Tegra2 for such an inexpensive tablet.
Why Nvidia left out support for this (while other CPUs include it) is beyond me, but on the plus side there is hope for the future. The Tegra2 is used in a lot of high end tablets these days, including the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, Acer Iconia, Moto Xoom, etc... Right now Skype won't work on any of them, and I'm sure the company does not intend to alienate such a large portion of tablet customers. When they get supported, so will we.
Meanwhile, someone posted in one of the other threads about a CES demo this past year in which NVIDIA and Skype showed off HD video calling hardware using what they call "Skypekit" framework to build an app on a Tegra-based demo tablet.
So, stuff is coming folks. We just have to wait it out I guess, as there is nothing that can be done now.
I wonder if Skype does a hardware test or just a device check; maybe we can set the device ID or use some other trick to fool the software into thinking our gTabs are worthy.
mike_ekim said:
I wonder if Skype does a hardware test or just a device check; maybe we can set the device ID or use some other trick to fool the software into thinking our gTabs are worthy.
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Read the post right about yours. It will crash because the Tegra CPU does not have the instruction set it needs. I've tried it.
Thanks for the info everyone. I was hoping to surprise the girlfriend abroad with a hacked apk to get skype to work, but I guess ooVoo will have to do for now.
Oovoo messes up my sound everytime. I've had good results with reelportal tho.
I have droid charge, I use skype everyday and it is so annoying to flip the phone to see the other person. Tegra chip wise everything is clear but how about the droid charge? Can any dev find workaround for this nonsense? I am willing to support that dev and donate some beer money.
This discussion is about the G-tab.
For other devices, there are threads here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153285
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
If you have architecture capable of NEON, one of those versions should let the software access the front camera.
mike_ekim said:
I'm at work but I'm really curious; Skype says it will work with *some* 2.2 devices, and if you have 2 cameras the wrong camera will work but we have only one camera so we might be in luck.
Fingers crossed...
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So..if we are on 2.3 and have this device...are they saying it will work then? Getting my Tab in 2 days. It already has 2.3 on it.
New version of skype (v2) supports videocalling in tegra devices such as Asus Transformee or Xoom.
I'll test as soon as I get home if it works for the Gtablet.
Enviado desde mi GT-I9000 usando Tapatalk
Still no video call support
I just tested the new version of skype (version 2.5.0.108 downloaded from market) on my Gtab running Brilliant Corners 1.3.1 and there was still no video call option. I will keep playing with it and see if I missed anything obvious.
jdoorny said:
I just tested the new version of skype (version 2.5.0.108 downloaded from market) on my Gtab running Brilliant Corners 1.3.1 and there was still no video call option. I will keep playing with it and see if I missed anything obvious.
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You have to activate the videocall options on settings first.
I tested it on honeycomb flashback rom but as the camera doesn't work on our honeycomb roms yer the test was useful, lol.
Please check on settings that videocalls are enabled and test back on your brilliant corner roms.
However it would be nice if someone using a gingerbread rom can test it
titooo7 said:
You have to activate the videocall options on settings first.
I tested it on honeycomb flashback rom but as the camera doesn't work on our honeycomb roms yer the test was useful, lol.
Please check on settings that videocalls are enabled and test back on your brilliant corner roms.
However it would be nice if someone using a gingerbread rom can test it
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Thanks. I missed that and didn't change the settings.
When I changed the settings to accept video calls it worked. It was very buggy tho. The video came in clear, but it was rotated sideways (flipping the gtab on its side wasn't enough to fix the problem). The video I received also covered all the buttons for ending the call/muting the microphone etc. This made it difficult to end the call without guessing where the button would be underneath the incoming video. Also, when I exited the skype app while in a video call, the application closed but the video stayed on top. This made it impossible to do anything else while having a video chat going on in the background.
Overall this is a huge step forward. Video calls with audio are now working. I can't give extensive reviews on video quality, as I was only calling myself from my laptop to my gtablet and didn't spend much more time than was needed to see if it worked.
Some work will definately be needed to iron out some of the bugs before this becomes perfectly useable. For now I am happy with the progress that has been made and will wait patiently for someone smarter than me to work out the bugs.
Gtab running Brilliant Corners 1.3.1
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After playing with skype for a little while longer, I noticed that skype is placing the video from the Gtab over the video from skype.
Let me try explain.
In a normal skype call, you have the large video from the person you are talking too taking up most of the screen. In one of the corners you have a video of yourself that is being sent to the other person. This video is rotated sideways when I hold the Gtab in landscape mode with the camera on top.
When I use the skype for android app on my Gtablet (brilliant corners 1.3.1), I get a third video laid overtop of the other two videos. The video is the same as the small one of myself in the bottom corner of the video chat, but with the correct orientation. I know that the other two video's exist (outgoing and incoming that normally exist in skype) because there is some space beside the 3rd video.
If that was confusing, let me try explain a different way: It's as if the video camera application is running over top of skype whenever I am in a video call. The 'video camera app' is persistantly on top whenever I am in a video call. It will even stay on top when I close the skype application during a video call.
I failed to notice this during my initial testing, as I had the gtab and laptop pointing at me, and failed to differentiate which video feed I was seeing.
I think the app would be perfect if the following were fixed.
-Outgoing video rotation is fixed.
-video being captured on gtab was not over top of the video's skype is recognizing.
Has anyone on different ROM's experienced these problems? I don't feel like going through the hassle of changing ROM's to test.
Hello,
When I use creative effect mode with my Z3C I see a lot of lags on the screen when I move the phone (like... you know... when you make a video...). I thought it was normal and just on the screen but with normal final result. But when I record a video with creative effect, I see lags on the screen BUT also in the final video when I watch it.
Am I alone?
Thanks!
EDIT: NO I don't have Stamina mode
I've never tried video recording with creative effects, but it doesn't surprise me. Most of the creative effects seem to stress the processor and some have even experienced the camera app shutting down to prevent over-heating.
Too bad, I can't make "real" video with effect, always lags in some parts.
try clearing out all apps and running programs before recording one of the videos. have all processing power available.
OK thank you
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try clearing out all apps and running programs before recording one of the videos. have all processing power available.
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I should not have to do that on a 2014-15 flagship. Just to be able to use all the features.... I'd accept it for 4yo phone if you want to use the latest softwares, but a new one? Completely unacceptable.
actually..you SHOULD have to do that. A cpu intensive task needs all power available.
also the videos with these effects on dont get the best frame rates to begin with. theyre for entertainment purposes, not to film a super bowl commercial
Camera become laggy when free ram get under 300mb, I fix it with rooting then use greenify to manage ram.. Smooth camera and fluid multitasking