I have 2 account with Gmail and Comcast on my Tilt. I tried to use XpressMail but I was not impressed, plus I couldn't get more than 1 account to work with it as well.
This is mainly personal use at this point so I'm not in dire need of getting my emails immediately, but I do get them throughout the day so I don't want to wait too long either.
From a battery standpoint, which option is better in your opinion? If I have both accounts check every 30 mins, will that consume more battery as opposed to using a Push method for both?
And if Push still is the way to go, what's *the* best option for getting both accounts pushed to me? I only have my desktop at home for any necessary software.
Thanks!
You can't push any mail that's not on Exchange, so unless you sign up for a hosted mailbox, you're limited to the time based options.
Push will consume more battery due to the always open connection, but if you shut of HSDPA until you need it (grabbing attachments, surfing) it won't be significant.
I was able to get XPressMail to do it but it was inconsistent and a hassle. Is that the only non-Exchange option?
I use SEVEN http://preview.seven.com My battery life on my new tilt hasn't taken a big hit so far. 10-20% drain at the end of the day.
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I use SEVEN http://preview.seven.com My battery life on my new tilt hasn't taken a big hit so far. 10-20% drain at the end of the day.
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Wha tis seven? and how does it cmopare to mail2web (free version)
can it sync with PC outlook and does it run off your home computer?
It's a push implementation. It doesn't sync to any desktop software if that's what you're looking for.
I have just ordered Blackberry to go with my XDA Stellar, to push from my AOL and various other personal email accounts, as I've got used to the push functionality on my BB Pearl and the plan also comes with unlimited web browsing.
No one else on here seems to use Blackberry Connect on the Kaiser, so I'll do a bit of a review of it, once I've had it working a few days. My biggest concern is the battery life, and if it is awful I plan on doing without. The thing is though the Pearl has pretty powerful hardware underneath it and can last the best part of a week without charging, so I'm hoping the Blackberry Connect service will be prety frugal.
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Push will consume more battery due to the always open connection
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I quite disagree. The whole point of DirectPush is that it does NOT consume battery power unless it's actually transferring e-mail. The method MS came up with is actually QUITE clever - and is documented on their website in a number of places, so I won't try to repeat that here.
My own experience bears out that battery consumption is proportional to e-mail quantity. On slow days the battery drops hardly at all. When I'm getting hammered with e-mails, I can see the battery dropping noticeably quicker.
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I got an ATT Tilt a couple weeks ago and I installed Kaiser Tweaks. I noticed that my battery drains extremely fast (rarely lasts an entire work day) and I wanted some advice on what settings I would want to adjust to help with this. I also downloaded Slick for my instant messenging and I also want to know if any of these power management features will disconnect me from my Slick im. I notice that often times when I leave my phone idle for a long time (ie when it is on the charger and I'm asleep) my Slick im (or other IM's I've used too) will be disconnected. It seems like I never had that problem until I installed Kaiser Tweaks. So basically I'm wondering how I can conserve power but ensure that my IM service never disconnects me since I rely on AIM messages for a lot of things I do. Any help is appreciated. Also feel free to message me on AIM if it would be easier - JPAY2002 is my screen name.
Thanks in advance.
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I got an ATT Tilt a couple weeks ago and I installed Kaiser Tweaks. I noticed that my battery drains extremely fast (rarely lasts an entire work day) and I wanted some advice on what settings I would want to adjust to help with this. I also downloaded Slick for my instant messenging and I also want to know if any of these power management features will disconnect me from my Slick im. I notice that often times when I leave my phone idle for a long time (ie when it is on the charger and I'm asleep) my Slick im (or other IM's I've used too) will be disconnected. So basically I'm wondering how I can conserve power but ensure that my IM service never disconnects me since I rely on AIM messages for a lot of things I do. Any help is appreciated. Also feel free to message me on AIM if it would be easier - JPAY2002 is my screen name.
Thanks in advance.
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FOR ME kaiser tweak has always improved battery life and secondly this belongs under the kaiser tweak sticky and not as a new thread and thirdly running any program continuously will drain battery. Buy a back up battery
If you're using slick 24x7 then you're using data 24x7 = battery drain. If you have data turn off after a certain time, then you will get better battery life.
I can agree with all of the above. I had pocketweather updating every 5 minutes and I had the same issue of not being able to make it through 1 work day. I switched it to update every 75 minutes and the batter life is MUCH better.
Now I have blackberry connect that also stays on all the time...not much I can do about that...but it's interesting that Blackberry Connect does not seem to drain the battery in the same way that Media Connect does
To those who are using the Diamond in Asia/Europe, how many hours are you getting on a battery WITH push enabled? That is the make or break for this phone...I still can't believe such a low battery was put on this phone, completely unacceptable, with such nice features power users will use it 24/7...
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To those who are using the Diamond in Asia/Europe, how many hours are you getting on a battery WITH push enabled? That is the make or break for this phone...I still can't believe such a low battery was put on this phone, completely unacceptable, with such nice features power users will use it 24/7...
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i was able to get a solid 10 hours out of it with HSDPA push Exchange and IMAP gmail with using messgenger so its not that bad...
Battery Usage for Diamond
My diamond can only last for 4 hours using 3hk HSDPA.
the body of the mobile then becomes so hot.
the performance is something like my atom life using 3000mAh battery.
I think Its a better idea to stay in 2g if you use Direct Push and switch to 3g for browsing, etc..
Dani
I agree. I have 3G turned off most of the time, since I have push mail activated and the data connection is constantly open. Get more battery life that way. 3G is not required for email. Then I turn it on for web browsing, or when I'm downloading maps on the fly as I'm using GPS. This is on the Cruise but should be similar behavior on the Diamond.
Two questions relating to keeping a data connection always open:
I make use of DirectPush Email pretty much 24/7 - IMO one of Microsofts better technology implementations! I have a fairly good understanding of how it works, keeping the connection 'open' by not sending the reply packet etc.
The downside to using such a technology however is I guess that the data connection is always online (all be it not actually transmitting data unless there is any mail activity or responding to timeouts etc). My question is what is the detrimental affect of this on battery life? In other words, how much of a hit in battery life am I taking by having DirectPush Email always on? This is mostly for information-only, however if there is a significant impact then I might alter my usage pattern slightly so as when I'm struggling with battery and not in a position to respond to emails straight away (ie. a mornings heavy usage which has left me with <30% power by lunchtime, then say stuck in a meeting for 2hrs) to make an effort to switch it off.
On a similar (ish) vein.. I've today started playing with Windows Messenger via the Diamond. I find IM very useful on my laptop, but don't really bother with it on my mobile. However I'm seeing how it could be occasionally useful, if I'm struggling to track someone down then having a quick look to see if they're online and sending them a quick "have you got 5 mins?" IM.. and was wondering about the impact of leaving it permanently signed in - as opposed to signing in just when I need it (which seems to take a while, ok only say 15 seconds but it all takes away from the 'intstant' element!). As per above I always have my data connection open for DirectPush Email so things won't change here, I guess there'd just be small data transitions every so often as people come and go on/offline, status updates etc (unless the apps model clever enough not to bother with such things unless the device has its screen switched on?). Noticeable impact on battery? Any/all comments & info much appreciated!
Well I am mildly disappointed at the battery life of this phone. With full "phone curiosity" mode turned on I am getting maybe 3/4 of a day worth of charge. As I get more familiar with the phone and some of the novelty wears off, I am hoping to get maybe 2 days? Anybody at that point yet to comment?
-Chris
yes, the battery is very inconsistant. sometimes it lasts over a day sometimes not even a 1/2 day. There are several forums that have posts about this. I am not sure whether its a set of dud batteries or something else.
had mine for 2+ weeks now, and my battery life is consistent, to where it really depends on my usage. 2-3 hours of talk time, Activesync constantly running with my Exchange server, i will usually get around 16-18 hours.
Now, granted, during the day, i will run various applications during the day, such as a Twitter client, browser, facebook, etc etc etc, and no huge variances in battery life
I agree, very inconsistant for me as well. Seems like most times is about 12-16 hours.
I can usually get away with a charge every 2 days with moderate talk time, push email, RSSHub updating every hour, facebook integration with contacts, weather, etc, etc.
One thing you guys might want to try if you haven't already - hook up the Wi-Fi. I previously had a Motorola Q with comparable services running and it would barely make it through the day. I honestly think the lack of Wi-Fi was its demise because I live in a stone house and get very poor reception.
So anyway, give the Wi-Fi a try and see if that works.
the choice is features or battery life. the nicer a phone, the lower the battery life. the lesser the phone, the better the battery life. a car charger should resolve most peoples battery issues with any phone.
or in a terrible case, call verizon say your battery is awful. they will send you one complimentary battery. now you have two, for free! keep one fully charged and change them out as needed.
My battery life is just fine... long full days @ work with constant txting, calls, vibrate on, data, etc... I did install cabs to stop push internet and reduce RAM consumption but nothing else.
I truly love this phone. It is the absolute best I have ever had.
I don't know, sometime I found Imagio drains more than it should be (My ram is around 48% free all the time with the help of HTC Ram clean). Somewhere near 100% (fully charged), it can fast down to 96 or 97 and sometime I saw figure jump continiously from 92 then 91 then 90.
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My battery life is just fine... long full days @ work with constant txting, calls, vibrate on, data, etc... I did install cabs to stop push internet and reduce RAM consumption but nothing else.
I truly love this phone. It is the absolute best I have ever had.
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Which Cabs did you use? Could you point us on that direction?
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Which Cabs did you use? Could you point us on that direction?
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Here is the "push internet" cab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
I installed it, took me to 48% on reboot but the phone quickly jumped to 80% again in no time. The only thing I really keep open is Google Maps.
I've turned of automatic weather updates, rss hub only updates every 8 hrs, etc... If I don't leave any data hogging apps open in the background, I can get through an entire day with moderate use.
I called Customer Service today. The guy told me that because I have an Exchange Account setup that 6 hours on a battery falls within the specs.
Maybe off topic a bit, but does anyone else have a problem with their phones not storing "Last Full charge" info?
So my dad was complaining about his battery life, how it only lasts 3 hours. We got him a replacement and he's still complaining. I do not use WP7 phones. I'm more of android and really never explored the WP7 world. Is there any advice you can give?
What he does on the phone,
He calls people often, Spends time on the phone. Email. Low amount of texting, I'm trying to explain to him that for one he has it set to auto brightness which doesnt help and that with the screen size he has doesn't really help the matter in days usage. Also he's always connected to WiFi (not sure if that helps, but with android it does)
I disabled location, Auto Sync, set brightness to medium and he's complain he barely gets 3 hours out of the damn phone. I told him he needs a bigger battery. From what I've seen as far as Battery size at stock for the HD7 it's like 1100, which seems rather low. I told him I'd get him a much bigger battery which would help.
Your thoughts? greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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So my dad was complaining about his battery life, how it only lasts 3 hours. We got him a replacement and he's still complaining. I do not use WP7 phones. I'm more of android and really never explored the WP7 world. Is there any advice you can give?
What he does on the phone,
He calls people often, Spends time on the phone. Email. Low amount of texting, I'm trying to explain to him that for one he has it set to auto brightness which doesnt help and that with the screen size he has doesn't really help the matter in days usage. Also he's always connected to WiFi (not sure if that helps, but with android it does)
I disabled location, Auto Sync, set brightness to medium and he's complain he barely gets 3 hours out of the damn phone. I told him he needs a bigger battery. From what I've seen as far as Battery size at stock for the HD7 it's like 1100, which seems rather low. I told him I'd get him a much bigger battery which would help.
Your thoughts? greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Did you check his email/s sync settings? If he has multiple accounts that sync every 15mins, that can drain battery pretty quickly. If he is on wifi all the time, then disable 3G. Make sure apps don't run in the background. Make sure he closes out every application. And yes, and extended battery will help. And just for a little fun, this hasn't been proven, but having a black wallpaper may improve battery life.
Personally, my HD7S will last 2 days. I have brightness on low, manually sync email accounts. I have wifi on and play music all day. Is he running mango?
My HD7 lasts 2-3 days, depending on use. There is obviously something wrong with your dad's battery, firmware or something.
this happened with me too.
I just turned off "show open wifi networks".
It vastly improved battery life.
I don't remember doing anything else.
Let us know if that solves the issue.
Jeff
Rogue Apps from the market can cause battery drain.
I had one such and it made the battery die in less then 5 hours.
I did a hard reset just to be sure and then all was well and made sure I did not install that app ( cant remember which one it was , but it was a receipe one)
ALso if you are away from wifi its best to turn it off as otherwise it will keep scanning for wifi all the time hence draining the battery.
Generally the HTC battery is weak mine dosen't last more than 8 hours with normal use
+1 on the advice here
I can get a full day (7am to 11pm) from my HD7 without constantly having to turn on / off Wifi. I would typically have emails set to check every half hour, including weather etc. I make a few calls and send a good number of texts, run a few apps etc. If the battery is under pressure at some point I'll just turn off Wifi. If I'm travelling abroad and I don't want to Roam, I will turn off data naturally but I will also turn off 3G to save extra battery.
If I want to squeeze another hour or two out of the battery when I'm away from a charger I will turn the battery saver on. Automatic brightness should be fine as well; no need to set it to the dimmest setting all day.
The biggest battery killer is if you have your email set to check constantly; set it to 15 or 30 minutes and you will get an amazing improvement in battery life.
I should also mention that my HD7 is just over a year old, so I ordered a new battery for it recently which has definitely helped. New batteries are quite cheap and make a big difference. It's also handy to have the old battery in the bag just in case of emergency.
Pick up an Anker 1350mah replacement battery. I bought one and gained about 15-25% better life depending on usuage. I have 3 push email accounts, FB, Twitter, and Link'din all synced. I get between 5-9 hours of heavy use. 1+ day on the weekend when it's not getting bombarded with work calls and email.
If he can reduce the refresh rate on emails, this will extend the battery greatly. Good luck.
Dies the setting as items arrive under email account drain the battery?
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I did a hard reset just to be sure and then all was well and made sure I did not install that app ( cant remember which one it was , but it was a receipe one)
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Sorry for hyjacking this thread but I have issues too with the low battery duration of my HD7.
Tried the email advice with no luck, when I put it in before I head to bed and take it out in the morning (around 7am) it doesn't even last till after till after dinner (around 6PM), during which I haven't even done much due to not having time as I'm in class.
But then I read this "hard reset" which I've just done but what is the best thing to do, performing a Hard Reset and
- restoring to the last saved point (which was a few days back due to the 7740 Tethering update)
or
- updating the phone and installing every single app manually again?
Havent found info about this anywhere on the forums, everyone just says "hard reset" but after that there are still 2 options to consider
Thanks.
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Pick up an Anker 1350mah replacement battery. I bought one and gained about 15-25% better life depending on usuage.
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I did the same, the Anker battery is good. With e-mail updates hourly (not push as I can sync as I need) and medium voice use, I'm getting 36 hours from a charge.