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I see all of these roms for 6.1 everywhere...but none of them make mention of the new sliding panel home screen. Do any of these include that? Better yet, does anyone have a cab of the new home screen?
It's been rumored that the new US touch dual will have the new wm6.1 os pre-installed, but obviously that can't be substantiated yet.
So, anyone, new home screen?
new home screen
I was wondering the same thing. The articles all show the new look home screen, but the ROMs all seem to have the old one. I'm not complaining as I appreciate all the work done by the chefs. I'm just curious about the new look that is detailed in the press releases.
True. It's a huge process making these roms, so credit where credit is due. However, seeing how there isn't any MAJOR changes to the os, the only thing of any real interest to me is the home screen. I think an interface change would be nice...
Everything I've seen on the sliding home-type front end states it's only for Smartphone rather than Pocket PC - that's why nobody's building it into their ROMs!
Shame, I thought it looked quite nice, but IMHO 6.1 is mostly centred around improving the Smartphone experience and trying to bring it closer to the standard PPC has set.
Correct, it's only a feature for Smartphone Editions (no touchscreen).
Actually, You can download the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and Smartphone Images from Microsoft's website and see it for yourself.
However, I do think that's a shame not to have it implemented on Professional devices.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/
InGeNeTiCs said:
Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/
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MS is focusing on that in WM7. But WM6.1 is mostly cosmetics - no huge changes. At least not in the Pro version.
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it
Where i'm download ?
ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?
livefastdiefun87 said:
He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?
Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!
NotATreoFan said:
No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
bennyj71 said:
What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.
Ive noticed that the Manila cab from the blackstone has been ported over so was just wondering if it was possible with the pixon/omina.
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
As the Omnia or Pixon run of WinMo6.1 would it be difficult to port it?
I mean, it supports landscape which would obv be triggered by the keyboard being pulled out rather than a accelrometer.
Also, the camera kicks ass on the Omnia. Face Detection and 5mp! I know 5mp is impossible on the X1 but is face dectection too hard to implement? Im guessing the only difference between the two phones is the hardware, so face detection is done on a software level.
It would be great to have this on the X1 as I really like the Omnia and am tempted to swap my X1 for it. The only thing im keeping my X1 for is the panels (not sure why) and the hard keyboard.
Or could the panels be ported to the Omnia?
Evostance said:
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
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Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
Haha, i personally feel that i will keep the X1 instead, how i was hoping to get a X1 or Touch HD , just go throw in the TF3D from Touch Hd, you will love it...
SomeoneSimple said:
Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
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100% agree
Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
my understanding is that pixon is a toy phone with a crazy camera from hell
Well the Pixon is its own OS. The Omnia is a windows based phone with a fancy interface and a crazy ass camera.
To be fair, I think they're both equal in term of perfurmance (Omnia has faster processor while Xperia has larger ram) and the OpenGL in Xperia is already taken by the WVGA screen (while in Omnia it WQVGA with no OpenGL) but it still support DivX.
Omnia outstands the Xperia in the camera, including it's flash (although it's Sony's speciality) and Xperia outstands Omina in the display (monitor).
Xperia UI (Panels) is way better than Omnia's (TouchWiz); they're both handy and finger-friendly but TouchWiz is uncustomizable.
Also, Xperia has a full keyboard and more buttons on the outside while Omnia has G-Sensor (Accelerometer) and less in weight, size and price.
Finally, Xperia is better when it comes to SSD Memory Card (don't have to remove the battery) and Stylus (stuck inside instead of hanging on the side). But with the 8 GB inside Omnia, no one needs SSD Memory Card and the interfaces in both are already finger-freindly so through away your styluses.
Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
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Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
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exporting doesn't mean raw exporting; it's more of programming the same concept considering the target PPC. I think it's been made already for QVGA devices.
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Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
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You're right that they didn't answer your question. However, you have to admit; when you need info from people in the X1 forum it's not smart to start by telling why you feel the Omnia is so much better (We all love the X1 here!), as you'll compel others to start a discussion on it.
About that, I've experienced an Omnia. It's a nice toy, but just that, a toy. The X1 is for serious business.
Having said that, I think it's not that easy to port things like panels to the Omnia. As stated above the Omnia's screen just fails in comparison to the X1. Then there's hardware and driver issues to tackle if you get past resolution. I highly doubt you'll find a coder who's willing to do this for you.
I like the Idea of an Omnia Panel
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
premutos said:
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
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The thread starter wants it the other way around X1 --> Omnia.
OK If this is the way the thread is about lets delete is from the Xperia Rom section because it does not make any sence to spam rom section. We can start a new thread if anybody is interested in the topic Omnia Panel for X1.
Upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.5: We know of a few phones that will be upgradable from 6.1 to 6.5, and Microsoft is clarifying this position a little. Mainly in that if they meet a minimum hardware standard — 128MB RAM, 400 MHz processor — they may be available for an upgrade. But that's still up to the partners (read: Manufacturers/carriers) to choose to do so.
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See:
http://www.wmexperts.com/microsoft-gives-more-marketplace-details-themes-upgrades-65
It would be AWESOME if we can upgrade to windows mobile 6.5, and so be able to use marketplace. We need 128MB RAM and 400MHZ processor, which means our Diamond should be suitable for 6.5!
Doubt it, but unofficially; yes we will get 6.5 on our phones. But we will not thank HTC for that.
Well yes, ofcourse we will be able to receive 6.5.
But i hope HTC will make it official for Diamond users. But i dont think that will happen...
I hope so too, but let's be honest: if it wasn't for the good folks here at xda-devs, our phones would be pretty mediocre. So I don't see it happening officially. But I'd be very happy to be proven wrong.
The Touch Diamond does not conform to the WM 6.5 specs, HTC are not allowed to release it for the Diamond.
Perhaps we should start an online petition to get HTC to bring WM6.5 to the Touch Diamond officially.
Windows Mobile 6.5 MIGHT be available for Diamond!
Yes it will be.. but some advanced featured will be unavailable..
Regards
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Windows Mobile 6.5 MIGHT be available for Diamond!
Yes it will be.. but some advanced featured will be unavailable..
Regards
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which features do you mean?
I thought no hardware Start key = No WM 6.5?
Funny that the previous generation phones had hardware Start/OK then they stopped putting them on after the iPhone came out.
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I thought no hardware Start key = No WM 6.5?
Funny that the previous generation phones had hardware Start/OK then they stopped putting them on after the iPhone came out.
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It is handy to have the Start Key but that is not a showstopper. Having said that I do miss the many hardware buttons that were available back in the days of Hermes.
I believe the MS home key is required to allow htc to put wm6.5 on their devices. So I don't think there will be any official upgrade for the diamond or any phone that doesn't have this key. Also MS wants to change the name 'smartphone' to windows mobile phone :S Don't think this applies to the Diamond though but still..
What I'm still wondering is if tf3d2 will be available on the HTC update of wm6.5 on the diamond2..
this would be awesome to have 6.5 on my phone
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I believe the MS home key is required to allow htc to put wm6.5 on their devices. So I don't think there will be any official upgrade for the diamond or any phone that doesn't have this key. Also MS wants to change the name 'smartphone' to windows mobile phone :S Don't think this applies to the Diamond though but still..
What I'm still wondering is if tf3d2 will be available on the HTC update of wm6.5 on the diamond2..
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I heard this too, but then practically no phones would be able to upgrade, and wouldn't the dude in the quote at the start have mentioned that?
Diamond and WM 6.5
I think any hardware key can be set as Windows Key, it's simply a software setting; it needs only mapping it in the ROM.
The new phones is coming with full touch screen, Microsoft is very stupid to pretend a special hardware key!!!!!
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TheJackall
I really like all these windows mobile 6.5 roms that are popping up for experia, but i cannot justify using one without the ability to use WVGA fix. I use Picodrive and Finalburn along with Tomtom 6 and some other software, none of which work without WVGAFix3 which itsself is said not to work with 6.5.
There must be a load of people now with 6.5 roms, that like this software so how does everybody else do it? Or does everybody really just stop using their favorite software in favor of a 6.5 rom?
I have found nothing in the WVGAFix thread.
C'mon guys.....i cant be the only one faced with this dilemma?
Even if you use WM 6.5 (like me ;-) ) you can use WGAFix3. It doesnt give a black bar after use - but the Apps work after activating WGAFix - and before they didnt worked.
Have fun.
ddevey said:
I really like all these windows mobile 6.5 roms that are popping up for experia, but i cannot justify using one without the ability to use WVGA fix. I use Picodrive and Finalburn along with Tomtom 6 and some other software, none of which work without WVGAFix3 which itsself is said not to work with 6.5.
There must be a load of people now with 6.5 roms, that like this software so how does everybody else do it? Or does everybody really just stop using their favorite software in favor of a 6.5 rom?
I have found nothing in the WVGAFix thread.
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Hello,
I am also looking for a program like WVGAFix work on my WM6.5, I have a program need resolution 240 x 320 to be worked on my WM6.5 machine with resolution 480 x 800.
Please help! Thanks!
If anyone comes up with anything let me know as well ....
Maybe you should ask in the General section? Surely X2 is not the only WV mobile with WVGA resolution. And tell us if you find anything.
(I don't have my X2 at the moment and my Kaiser has QVGA resolution.)