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PointUI - New User Interface

Two days ago I downloaded a new interface which seems to be working great on the AT&T Tilt... Was just curious if anyone else has any experience with it? I think they released it on the 31st..
www.pointui.com

Hi,look at this post,i don't use it,but people give their opinion.

I have been trying it today. I actually like it in terms of turning the device into a dumbphone.
It disables the hardware buttons, but a quick press of the red end call key and you are back to the today screen and can use hardware buttons.

PointUI
I have just started using it, but on a VGA Exec. It does not support VGA but still works (everything is smaller than it should be). If they release a VGA version I will definitly use it as even with on the VGA screen it is fantastic.
I was looking for a touch style interface and have used HTC cube (various versions), and also the Ipod style inteface. All of them are close but not quite there.
For me, PointUI is there....It is the best I have seen and possibly because it is not emulating other devices it realy hits the mark.
I will install on my wizard for the moment until they release the VGA version.
As a last note does anyone know if you can drop the resolution on a EXEC? Sound a dumb question but I would like to use PointUI as it should be.

Tried it right when it was released on my Tilt. My initial impressions:
1. Lots of potential.
2. Very slick animation
3. Needs quite a bit of work and polishing before I consider using it.
3a. Did not match my theme, so odd color issues on the top bar.
3b. Needs to be cusomizable to use my preferred programs.
3c. I like my today page as i have it setup that shows all the info I need in one place. PointUI is nice eye candy, but does not give me that one stop shop.\

I don't know I may be the odd one out as everyone seems to like it so much.
I somehow am of the opinion that a combination of SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell is a far more efficient and effective interface. Though just my opinion

HTC diamond home plugin

Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot

search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory

chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...

crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier

looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...

Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.

I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.

I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.

someone1234 said:
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
slickvic said:
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.

so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up

I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.

I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?

I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.

Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418

Windows 6.1 interface ?

Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !

ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it

Where i'm download ?

ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)

johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them

So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?

jimlivingston said:
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).

Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?

livefastdiefun87 said:
He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?

Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!

NotATreoFan said:
No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...

reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.

NotATreoFan said:
I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).

bennyj71 said:
What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.

Bye bye Touchflo3D

First I need to say that I really liked Touchflo3D a lot and I didn't stopped using it because it looks bad or may slow down the Diamond a little bit.
I stopped using it because it reminds me too much of the iPhone...unfortunately minus the iPhone usability.
After I went back to the "classic" stylus and thumb operation, my lost happiness using the Diamond returned back. I also enjoy to be able again to easily read all my appointments and tasks which was almost impossible with Touchflo3D.
Tochflo3D looks great, in my opinion better than the iPhone GUI, kudos to HTC for that.
Unfortunately it doesn't offer the same comfort and usability of the iPhone GUI, so it is useless to me. Once HTC succeeds in integrating WM6.1 into Touchflo3D(or vice versa), I may give it another try but right now, it is just a fancy but pretty much useless GUI which reminds me too much of the iPhone comfort and usability and which of course starts to annoy me once I realize that it doesn't work even close to how good the iPhone GUI works with touch operations.
So if you're annoyed by Touchflo3D but still use it because it looks so nice...STOP using it, you will be much more happy with your Diamond, believe me. Once Touchflo3D is gone, you don't compare it to the iPhone anymore, reminding you of the "good old" stylus/thumb operation days and how good the Diamond can be used that way compared to older devices.
Try it, you may love it.

Good call.
I have done the same and only really miss the cute SMS graphics...
HTC obviously CAN do good interfaces as the old TouchFlo was excellent, but this one just isn't quite there yet, and also feels somewhat fiddly compared to the iPhone.
In the meantime the TD runs much better without TF3D, and you can start realising its full potential. Also you are not tempted to use their somewhat flaky audio player etc and can start to look at other alternatives.
If you want gestures and nice graphics, try SPB Shell 2. Works very well and looks great.
Otherwise, try using the device as the WM6 phone it so obviously is, and start to enjoy it...

from the first i didnt like the Touchflo3D its buggy so i disable it and use the normal mode

Yeah, I do fully agree to that!
The "classic" windows mobile interface looks very well on the diamond,
and without TF3D it's fast as hell!

Spb mobile shell is the best interface.
Touch Flo 3d was slow and killed the diamond.

Have to agree with most of the posts in here, TF3D is nice but its such a resourcce hog that after almost a day of using the Diamond...the phone becomes so sluggish even with the tweaks enabled.
Im seriously considering going to the normal non tf3d screen as it doesnt eat as much memory/resources as the tf3d does.
Seriously just try leaving the phone for most of the day and u will see that from 50% it goes up to 70% and makes the phone very sluggish.
Saying that i do hope HTC fix it with a future rom update or perhaps one of the guys in here can do it becuase its a nice interface when it works.

Registry switch for toiuchflow3d?
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.

windows mobile is one ugly thing and the stylus...no thanks...
when i get the touch pro..tf3d it is.

pilib said:
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
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What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...

pedmond said:
What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
i hope that new rom cookers can find us a solution to freed up the ram so that we can use it for other applications

ruffruff said:
well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
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What do you mean? Won't give us more RAM, indeed, but will free quite a bit of the existing one...
Note to self: stop using the "what do you mean" expression...

The elusive obvious!
Pardon my earlier stupid question re a registry switch for touchflo. It is of course, as pointed out, simply a today plugin, easily disabled by a t(h)ick!

Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.

Hi
I also disabled Touchflo3D. Is there another possibility to access the weather-application from Touchflo3D? Or does anybody know a similar programm running with WM 6.1?

after you install spb mobile shell, how do you disable/remove touchflo? and make spb shell the default one etc

Settings-today-items:check SPB and remove the check from tf3D ..DONE!

Yzord said:
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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Which ROM are you using?

Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.

I quite like it too but I do miss the exact things you have just mentioned. I'm not looking for a replacement, but I do wonder can it be hacked so we can get more out of it? Or must we wait for HTC to listen to our cry for help. This is my first HTC device so I don't know, but from what I hear we should not be holding our breath. This surprised me, as I buy other HTC's for my staff at work, and HTC's reputation to me was exemplary, and they are the market leaders. Then I came here, and now I hear so much bad stuff about them.

Riel said:
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
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You never used an iPhone, did you?
I'm using the TLR ROM too but Touchflo3D is C.R.A.P..
I owned WM phones before(TyTN, TyTN II, i780, etc.) and I like Windows Mobile, version 6.1 is really a good step towards a finally very well working phone OS, I just can't wait to see WM7. Like I said before, Touchflo3D LOOKS great, much better than the iPhone GUI but operation SUCKS bigtime, not even close to iPhone. Don't forget that HTC started the whole "touch" series because of the iPhone, not because people really asked for it. That said, a comparison to the iPhone is mandatory and yes, I know, the display technology is completely different and WM6.1 lacks a proper finger touch operation API, right.
I removed Tochflo3D because I wanted to have an almost perfect "classic"(stylus, sometimes fingers) Windows Mobile phone, not a half-bread iPhone wannabee.
What can I say? I'm a happy camper now, especially since I can for example see five different calender events on the same page without having to touch the unit.
Regarding Touchflo3D improvements: I'm not sure we're going to see substantial improvements to the usability(speed isn't really the issue), unless some genius programmer finds a clever way to cope for the different display technology and missing "real" finger usage API of WM6.1. I also wish somebody here on xda-developers with brains and time on this hand could "integrate" WM6.1(icons, etc.) much more into Touchflo3D, so Touchflo3D doesn't look and feel sometimes like a simple GUI "cover" only.
I'm pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 will be the answer to all our questions and hopes but til then...well...hello Touch Diamond II or whatever it's name will be.

Today Widgets for Kaiser?

Ok so this is actually my first time posting in a long time. i do regularly flash the great roms on this site and use the cabs that are presented here. wonderful work guys.
ok so my question is, is it possible for someone to write some software for some widgets like the ones on the new Samsung I900? I know that it runs off WM 6.1 Pro. But is the today screen widget system a flash program? or built in somehow? it would be so cool to have something like that on the today screen of my 6.0 kaiser. ive seen so many different UIs its hard to name them all. they are all pretty cool in their own ways, but if someone made this as a cab that would be awsome. i know someone will be dumping the I900 rom sometime soon. hopefully!!!!
thanks,
vince

i dont get it, so nobody thinks this is possible? any takers....bueller...bueller...

Two suggestions...
Link to what you're asking about so someone can possibly make comparisons.
Don't be annoying/insulting.

Links to view widgets on OMNIA i900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i8NfY_HXas

riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.

tazbo28 said:
riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
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Apart from the dragging and dropping of widget from the sidebar, everything else is able to be reproduced on wm6 using various methods. rlToday and MobileShell are starting points. The i900 is not that great of a phone.

I figured out the Widgets app is called TouchWiz. i was wondering if anyone has been able to make a cab out of this? i would probably use it if it were available. ive tried a lot of shells, launchers, plugins, they are all cool but none seem to be the end all OS-replacement. by that i mean that they cant do everything yet. some will do some things good and others do other things good, but none do everything good! i know its a lot to ask for from just a shell, but if the next iphone (not 3g version) is any good with a 3rd party following thats growing, i might jump on. its gonna take some great plugs and an awsome os update to keep me on the windows mobile wagon.
i really wish they would start to try and move away from teh stylus usage on their future OS versions. like the Omnia. this would make alot of people happier i think.

snachez said:
The i900 is not that great of a phone.
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really, why?

badaas said:
really, why?
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-Price - Currently over $1,100 in Australia vs. TyTnII free on most caps. Ouch.
- Poor finger menu navigation. Like most WM6 devices, the underlying OS is designed for stylus use, not thumbs. Comes with a stylus but no slot to put it in the phone.
- No physical keyboard, and dodgy software keyboard which cover 3/4 of the screen making it impossible to see what your typing underneath.
- Haptic touch is cool, but the glossy body is really bad (good?) at collecting fingerprint smudges. Carrying a cloth all day is pretty lame too.
- Battery life is ok, except when using GPS or 3G/HSDPA- reports of going from 100% to fully flat in under 40 mins while using satnav & about 3 hrs talk time on 3G. Cant personally verify this because I only played in-store for about half an hour - google around though..
- Can't use it as a bluetooth HSDPA modem for laptop/PC. Even my 5 yr old nokia can do this..
- Annoying automatic screen orientation, way too sensitive when you moving your arm around and the screen starts freaking out and spinning.
- Reports of random shut downs. Cnet reviewer had 2 in 3 days & pressing the Power On button does not help - have to physically remove and re-insert the battery to reset it.
- Useless "widgets" - Stock ROM does not include Calendar, Messaging or mainstream apps. Like the nazi-esque licensing for the iphone app store, you're not allowed to add / develop non-Samsung-approved apps. So for the time being you have a fancy looking but useless desktop. Standard WM6 "today" screen & various plugins is much much more usable.
Bottom line is its fashion over function. Some will love it, but there's too much iPhone mentality going on to even consider it for folks like me (I like to tweak and fiddle with everything to make a system that suits me perfectly - way better phones already out that can do this easier (TyTnII, imho) )
I do like the camera though, and the weird not-quite-VGA 240x400 resolution.

I agree. I am not interested in flashing a new ROM but would rather customize a few features usings cabs and so forth.
There are some widgets that I would like to use myself. This is very similar to the Vista sidebar that I have become familiar with and appreciate now.

Hi,
i found the related widgets, on rapidshare or megauload.it works fine
on a Qvga pda, but on mine (I780) i have resolution problems
Bye
Herc.

yeah i found a thread in the general-hacking and development section where someone has already made a cab for the widgets. after installing you have to reset your device for them to appear in the today plugins selection. the widgets are really cool but not being able to edit the apps they control at the moment kinda sucks. some of them dont do anything because they are supposed to be connected to programs in the Omnia I900