First I need to say that I really liked Touchflo3D a lot and I didn't stopped using it because it looks bad or may slow down the Diamond a little bit.
I stopped using it because it reminds me too much of the iPhone...unfortunately minus the iPhone usability.
After I went back to the "classic" stylus and thumb operation, my lost happiness using the Diamond returned back. I also enjoy to be able again to easily read all my appointments and tasks which was almost impossible with Touchflo3D.
Tochflo3D looks great, in my opinion better than the iPhone GUI, kudos to HTC for that.
Unfortunately it doesn't offer the same comfort and usability of the iPhone GUI, so it is useless to me. Once HTC succeeds in integrating WM6.1 into Touchflo3D(or vice versa), I may give it another try but right now, it is just a fancy but pretty much useless GUI which reminds me too much of the iPhone comfort and usability and which of course starts to annoy me once I realize that it doesn't work even close to how good the iPhone GUI works with touch operations.
So if you're annoyed by Touchflo3D but still use it because it looks so nice...STOP using it, you will be much more happy with your Diamond, believe me. Once Touchflo3D is gone, you don't compare it to the iPhone anymore, reminding you of the "good old" stylus/thumb operation days and how good the Diamond can be used that way compared to older devices.
Try it, you may love it.
Good call.
I have done the same and only really miss the cute SMS graphics...
HTC obviously CAN do good interfaces as the old TouchFlo was excellent, but this one just isn't quite there yet, and also feels somewhat fiddly compared to the iPhone.
In the meantime the TD runs much better without TF3D, and you can start realising its full potential. Also you are not tempted to use their somewhat flaky audio player etc and can start to look at other alternatives.
If you want gestures and nice graphics, try SPB Shell 2. Works very well and looks great.
Otherwise, try using the device as the WM6 phone it so obviously is, and start to enjoy it...
from the first i didnt like the Touchflo3D its buggy so i disable it and use the normal mode
Yeah, I do fully agree to that!
The "classic" windows mobile interface looks very well on the diamond,
and without TF3D it's fast as hell!
Spb mobile shell is the best interface.
Touch Flo 3d was slow and killed the diamond.
Have to agree with most of the posts in here, TF3D is nice but its such a resourcce hog that after almost a day of using the Diamond...the phone becomes so sluggish even with the tweaks enabled.
Im seriously considering going to the normal non tf3d screen as it doesnt eat as much memory/resources as the tf3d does.
Seriously just try leaving the phone for most of the day and u will see that from 50% it goes up to 70% and makes the phone very sluggish.
Saying that i do hope HTC fix it with a future rom update or perhaps one of the guys in here can do it becuase its a nice interface when it works.
Registry switch for toiuchflow3d?
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
windows mobile is one ugly thing and the stylus...no thanks...
when i get the touch pro..tf3d it is.
pilib said:
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
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What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
pedmond said:
What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
i hope that new rom cookers can find us a solution to freed up the ram so that we can use it for other applications
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
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What do you mean? Won't give us more RAM, indeed, but will free quite a bit of the existing one...
Note to self: stop using the "what do you mean" expression...
The elusive obvious!
Pardon my earlier stupid question re a registry switch for touchflo. It is of course, as pointed out, simply a today plugin, easily disabled by a t(h)ick!
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
Hi
I also disabled Touchflo3D. Is there another possibility to access the weather-application from Touchflo3D? Or does anybody know a similar programm running with WM 6.1?
after you install spb mobile shell, how do you disable/remove touchflo? and make spb shell the default one etc
Settings-today-items:check SPB and remove the check from tf3D ..DONE!
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Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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Which ROM are you using?
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
I quite like it too but I do miss the exact things you have just mentioned. I'm not looking for a replacement, but I do wonder can it be hacked so we can get more out of it? Or must we wait for HTC to listen to our cry for help. This is my first HTC device so I don't know, but from what I hear we should not be holding our breath. This surprised me, as I buy other HTC's for my staff at work, and HTC's reputation to me was exemplary, and they are the market leaders. Then I came here, and now I hear so much bad stuff about them.
Riel said:
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
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You never used an iPhone, did you?
I'm using the TLR ROM too but Touchflo3D is C.R.A.P..
I owned WM phones before(TyTN, TyTN II, i780, etc.) and I like Windows Mobile, version 6.1 is really a good step towards a finally very well working phone OS, I just can't wait to see WM7. Like I said before, Touchflo3D LOOKS great, much better than the iPhone GUI but operation SUCKS bigtime, not even close to iPhone. Don't forget that HTC started the whole "touch" series because of the iPhone, not because people really asked for it. That said, a comparison to the iPhone is mandatory and yes, I know, the display technology is completely different and WM6.1 lacks a proper finger touch operation API, right.
I removed Tochflo3D because I wanted to have an almost perfect "classic"(stylus, sometimes fingers) Windows Mobile phone, not a half-bread iPhone wannabee.
What can I say? I'm a happy camper now, especially since I can for example see five different calender events on the same page without having to touch the unit.
Regarding Touchflo3D improvements: I'm not sure we're going to see substantial improvements to the usability(speed isn't really the issue), unless some genius programmer finds a clever way to cope for the different display technology and missing "real" finger usage API of WM6.1. I also wish somebody here on xda-developers with brains and time on this hand could "integrate" WM6.1(icons, etc.) much more into Touchflo3D, so Touchflo3D doesn't look and feel sometimes like a simple GUI "cover" only.
I'm pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 will be the answer to all our questions and hopes but til then...well...hello Touch Diamond II or whatever it's name will be.
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Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory
chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...
crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier
looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.
I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
slickvic said:
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.
so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up
I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.
Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418
I'm not opposed to using the stylus by any means, and I knew when I bought the phone that it wasn't intended to be operated completely with your fingers - it's certainly no iPhone (and I mean that in the best way possible). However, there's certainly something to be said for the convenience of having something you can operate with your fingers alone, especially if you don't have a free hand to hold your phone while you use the stylus in the other to navigate.
So, with that in mind I'm looking for any recommendations on programs that can be used to make the Kaiser more finger-friendly. The only ones that come to mind immediately for me are S2U2, FFF and the various Cubes. What are the other options available?
Thanks in advance.
spb mobile shell 2 is as finger friendly as it gets, it includes a wide variety of tools so that you barely need too traverse outside of the shell
Yeah, I've been looking at that, definitely looks great for finger navigation. Just wish it weren't $30 Looks like I'll have to wait to pick it up, I'm a little low on cash seeing as I just bought my Kaiser.
I'd also vote for mobile shell....
but also the excellent pocketcm for contacts and phone stuff. (and this ones a freebie)
Touch Commander is pretty nice, but also commercial.
Finger friendly friends for your contacts - very finger friendly
http://www.jotto.no/fff/
TomTom Navigator 7 is pretty "finger friendly" IMO.
icontact
iContact (freeware on XDA) in its latest version (0.74) is fantastic. A little faster and a lot smaller memory footprint compared to pockemCM. Very iphone like (in a good way).
RK
inger Friendly
Take a look at Vito Winterface
http://vitotechnology.com/en/support/news/news_detail.php?ID=2069
You can check out ThrottleLauncher as well in the 'Hacking/Development' forums.
Free too.
There are alot of finger friendly apps out there and the software just keeps adding up on the internet daily then there was a year ago or when the kaiser came out for sale in 2007...there is so much great .cabs and software out there on the internet that youlll find everything you need especially finger gesturing applications easily. The great thing about the kaiser and why i think it stands higher in quality then alot of PPC/PDA's out there especially the iphone is the ability to download and use 3rd party applications out the box... i mean im sure the iphone has the capabillities for 3rd party apps, once you unlock..then jailbreak and all that other jazz that u have to do to the iphone before its capable of being a functional and useful phone and after all that i dont think it still has more then a handful o applications out there for it..deffinetly not as much software thats out there now for windows moble phones..but anywayz theres so much finger friendly software out there on the net intended to be for PPC's...so with that being said theres theres good apps that mimic the iphone finger gesturing...like TOUCHFLO or TOUCHFLO 3D, its software that comes preloaded now with all new htc phones so that you barely have to use your styluses....after i installed the newest touchflo software(its not touchflo 3D, but still just as good) i barely even use the sylus now. With this flo touch technology u can finger scroll through all applications, and there is certain software that is finger friendly and beatiful to watch and use your fingers and especialy the thumb movements like the icontacts app...its one of the best contact manager software and it mimics the iphones contact list application. You can flo through your whole contact list in 2 seconds and its free...and the new icontact has alot of new optionns like a quick favorites list that is like speed dial so i would suggest gettin icontacts 0.73 or .75 once you install touchflo newest free software. You wont get a more finger friendly contact manager....trust me youll never use another contact manager...and its backround and theme is black with white letters which goes with the black theme of the kaiser itself..but i think u can switch the colors around..other then that PIE is finger friendly once u install touchflo and also tom tom 7 gps software and the great HTC album aplication (photo and camera software) rivals and mimics the iphones photo app and i think blows the iphones picture software out the water..and theres so much other software out there that becomes so much more easier to flip through with ur fingers and thumb especially...and personally i never use the cube software i think its a waste of space and i have no use for it....htc home and other htc software for your today plugin screen is good enough...and youll notice other software is much more easier to scroll through once you have touchflo or the pay version of touchflo 3d because of the extra benefits...so enjoy and watch the ease of barely having to use your stylus...but dont forget our phones are ment for stylus's and theres nothing wrong with it...the iphone may not need a stylus but that phone has alot of short comings especialy when it comes to text messaging department, its horrible..ive tried it on friends phones and had the worst times trying to text..would take close to 5 minutes writing a 4 sentence message.. and all of my boys that have the iphone all tell me they wish the iphone didnt only have the on screen keyboard..once they play with my tilt and see the qwerty keyboard there envious to it...cuz the iphones on screen just cant compete, especialy if you have big fingers like me..basically it sucks dog balls, even the new iphone which " needed" to be upgraded to built in gps and 3G., the kaiser when it came out already came with all these luxuries..the iphone needed to "upgrade" to get those rescources so think about that..and just scour the software threads for any type of software u can think of and youll find it..later
have you tried this.
http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
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There are alot of finger friendly apps out there and the software just keeps adding up on the internet daily then there was a year ago or when the kaiser came out for sale in 2007...there is so much great .cabs and software out there on the internet that youlll find everything you need especially finger gesturing applications easily. The great thing about the kaiser and why i think it stands higher in quality then alot of PPC/PDA's out there especially the iphone is the ability to download and use 3rd party applications out the box... i mean im sure the iphone has the capabillities for 3rd party apps, once you unlock..then jailbreak and all that other jazz that u have to do to the iphone before its capable of being a functional and useful phone and after all that i dont think it still has more then a handful o applications out there for it..deffinetly not as much software thats out there now for windows moble phones..but anywayz theres so much finger friendly software out there on the net intended to be for PPC's...so with that being said theres theres good apps that mimic the iphone finger gesturing...like TOUCHFLO or TOUCHFLO 3D, its software that comes preloaded now with all new htc phones so that you barely have to use your styluses....after i installed the newest touchflo software(its not touchflo 3D, but still just as good) i barely even use the sylus now. With this flo touch technology u can finger scroll through all applications, and there is certain software that is finger friendly and beatiful to watch and use your fingers and especialy the thumb movements like the icontacts app...its one of the best contact manager software and it mimics the iphones contact list application. You can flo through your whole contact list in 2 seconds and its free...and the new icontact has alot of new optionns like a quick favorites list that is like speed dial so i would suggest gettin icontacts 0.73 or .75 once you install touchflo newest free software. You wont get a more finger friendly contact manager....trust me youll never use another contact manager...and its backround and theme is black with white letters which goes with the black theme of the kaiser itself..but i think u can switch the colors around..other then that PIE is finger friendly once u install touchflo and also tom tom 7 gps software and the great HTC album aplication (photo and camera software) rivals and mimics the iphones photo app and i think blows the iphones picture software out the water..and theres so much other software out there that becomes so much more easier to flip through with ur fingers and thumb especially...and personally i never use the cube software i think its a waste of space and i have no use for it....htc home and other htc software for your today plugin screen is good enough...and youll notice other software is much more easier to scroll through once you have touchflo or the pay version of touchflo 3d because of the extra benefits...so enjoy and watch the ease of barely having to use your stylus...but dont forget our phones are ment for stylus's and theres nothing wrong with it...the iphone may not need a stylus but that phone has alot of short comings especialy when it comes to text messaging department, its horrible..ive tried it on friends phones and had the worst times trying to text..would take close to 5 minutes writing a 4 sentence message.. and all of my boys that have the iphone all tell me they wish the iphone didnt only have the on screen keyboard..once they play with my tilt and see the qwerty keyboard there envious to it...cuz the iphones on screen just cant compete, especialy if you have big fingers like me..basically it sucks dog balls, even the new iphone which " needed" to be upgraded to built in gps and 3G., the kaiser when it came out already came with all these luxuries..the iphone needed to "upgrade" to get those rescources so think about that..and just scour the software threads for any type of software u can think of and youll find it..later
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I hope you aren't offended but your writing needs severe sentence structure.
kmorris89 said:
I'm not opposed to using the stylus by any means, and I knew when I bought the phone that it wasn't intended to be operated completely with your fingers - it's certainly no iPhone (and I mean that in the best way possible). However, there's certainly something to be said for the convenience of having something you can operate with your fingers alone, especially if you don't have a free hand to hold your phone while you use the stylus in the other to navigate.
So, with that in mind I'm looking for any recommendations on programs that can be used to make the Kaiser more finger-friendly. The only ones that come to mind immediately for me are S2U2, FFF and the various Cubes. What are the other options available?
Thanks in advance.
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I find both PocketCM and ThumbCal great replacements for contact management and calendar. Both free. Search XDA and you shall find.
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I hope you aren't offended but your writing needs severe sentence structure.
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i was using my tilt when i posted this message...i never use a computer when im on this site...so when i type stuff on my phone it comes out like that...wala!!
kendav911 said:
have you tried this.
http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
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yes.... and was rather disappointed at it... still its a 1.0 release and may possible be worthwhile some time in the future (but not today)
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i was using my tilt when i posted this message...i never use a computer when im on this site...so when i type stuff on my phone it comes out like that...wala!!
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Lmao...I didn't even think of that. I know exactly what you mean!
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Lmao...I didn't even think of that. I know exactly what you mean!
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yea bro....like i barely ever use my toshiba satelite labtop other then for school term papers and essays and other school work...and for my job when i need to use microsoft office for word and excel for my spreadsheets...so when im at home or on the go...my main internet viewing utility is my tilt man. I find it so much more easier to just flick my phone open and surf the net on my tilt...from youtube watching, movie watching and when im on my forums posting, like this here xda for my phone and acurazine forums for my acura tl community. And my toshiba labtop is not old either its 4 months old and fast as ****! but... i rarely use it for internet scouring because my kaiser is so handy for simple web browsing stuff that i do and more convienent. So yea you alrdy said you know what i meant when your posting stuff through your tilt...its a little hard to be percise and grammer desciplined when typing with the qwerty...it would just take to much time to worry about how your typing needs to be perfect looking...especially when your posting on forums, i could give two sh*ts about a couple of missing parenthesis or misspelled words on forums..cuz people know where im getting at and theve seen enough internet or IM chat to distinguish word play and internet lingo..so yea..wala! lol
moegdaog said:
yea bro....like i barely ever use my toshiba satelite labtop other then for school term papers and essays and other school work...and for my job when i need to use microsoft office for word and excel for my spreadsheets...so when im at home or on the go...my main internet viewing utility is my tilt man. I find it so much more easier to just flick my phone open and surf the net on my tilt...from youtube watching, movie watching and when im on my forums posting, like this here xda for my phone and acurazine forums for my acura tl community. And my toshiba labtop is not old either its 4 months old and fast as ****! but... i rarely use it for internet scouring because my kaiser is so handy for simple web browsing stuff that i do and more convienent. So yea you alrdy said you know what i meant when your posting stuff through your tilt...its a little hard to be percise and grammer desciplined when typing with the qwerty...it would just take to much time to worry about how your typing needs to be perfect looking...especially when your posting on forums, i could give two sh*ts about a couple of missing parenthesis or misspelled words on forums..cuz people know where im getting at and theve seen enough internet or IM chat to distinguish word play and internet lingo..so yea..wala! lol
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This kid really rambles a lot huh, about nothing too. I see your posts in almost every thread and none of them actually contribute. Are you that bored that you type bs all day. Stay the f*ck on topic and stop cluttering up the forums.
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cuz people know where im getting at and theve seen enough internet or IM chat to distinguish word play and internet lingo..so yea..wala! lol
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AS IF.
When I see a huge (and I do mean HUGE) block of text like this, with next to no punctuation, no paragraphs, and generally a "stream of the subconscious" look, I do not even bother to skim it, much less read it word for word. I can accept it at Theodor Weissenborn's, but, sorry, you're not him.
Besides, sum ting wong with the Enter key on your Tilt's keyboard?
And before I get slammed for not contributing to the thread:
Ultimate Launch
Throttle Launcher
FFF
Winterface (yuk, but for the sake of completeness...)
iFonz
S2U2
S2V
S2P
SPB Mobile Shell
PointUI
iContact
iCalendar
Resco Keyboard
Zoom Keyboard
PocketCM Contacts
...and many, MANY others, these were just off the top of my head.
Ok so this is actually my first time posting in a long time. i do regularly flash the great roms on this site and use the cabs that are presented here. wonderful work guys.
ok so my question is, is it possible for someone to write some software for some widgets like the ones on the new Samsung I900? I know that it runs off WM 6.1 Pro. But is the today screen widget system a flash program? or built in somehow? it would be so cool to have something like that on the today screen of my 6.0 kaiser. ive seen so many different UIs its hard to name them all. they are all pretty cool in their own ways, but if someone made this as a cab that would be awsome. i know someone will be dumping the I900 rom sometime soon. hopefully!!!!
thanks,
vince
i dont get it, so nobody thinks this is possible? any takers....bueller...bueller...
Two suggestions...
Link to what you're asking about so someone can possibly make comparisons.
Don't be annoying/insulting.
Links to view widgets on OMNIA i900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i8NfY_HXas
riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
tazbo28 said:
riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
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Apart from the dragging and dropping of widget from the sidebar, everything else is able to be reproduced on wm6 using various methods. rlToday and MobileShell are starting points. The i900 is not that great of a phone.
I figured out the Widgets app is called TouchWiz. i was wondering if anyone has been able to make a cab out of this? i would probably use it if it were available. ive tried a lot of shells, launchers, plugins, they are all cool but none seem to be the end all OS-replacement. by that i mean that they cant do everything yet. some will do some things good and others do other things good, but none do everything good! i know its a lot to ask for from just a shell, but if the next iphone (not 3g version) is any good with a 3rd party following thats growing, i might jump on. its gonna take some great plugs and an awsome os update to keep me on the windows mobile wagon.
i really wish they would start to try and move away from teh stylus usage on their future OS versions. like the Omnia. this would make alot of people happier i think.
snachez said:
The i900 is not that great of a phone.
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really, why?
badaas said:
really, why?
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-Price - Currently over $1,100 in Australia vs. TyTnII free on most caps. Ouch.
- Poor finger menu navigation. Like most WM6 devices, the underlying OS is designed for stylus use, not thumbs. Comes with a stylus but no slot to put it in the phone.
- No physical keyboard, and dodgy software keyboard which cover 3/4 of the screen making it impossible to see what your typing underneath.
- Haptic touch is cool, but the glossy body is really bad (good?) at collecting fingerprint smudges. Carrying a cloth all day is pretty lame too.
- Battery life is ok, except when using GPS or 3G/HSDPA- reports of going from 100% to fully flat in under 40 mins while using satnav & about 3 hrs talk time on 3G. Cant personally verify this because I only played in-store for about half an hour - google around though..
- Can't use it as a bluetooth HSDPA modem for laptop/PC. Even my 5 yr old nokia can do this..
- Annoying automatic screen orientation, way too sensitive when you moving your arm around and the screen starts freaking out and spinning.
- Reports of random shut downs. Cnet reviewer had 2 in 3 days & pressing the Power On button does not help - have to physically remove and re-insert the battery to reset it.
- Useless "widgets" - Stock ROM does not include Calendar, Messaging or mainstream apps. Like the nazi-esque licensing for the iphone app store, you're not allowed to add / develop non-Samsung-approved apps. So for the time being you have a fancy looking but useless desktop. Standard WM6 "today" screen & various plugins is much much more usable.
Bottom line is its fashion over function. Some will love it, but there's too much iPhone mentality going on to even consider it for folks like me (I like to tweak and fiddle with everything to make a system that suits me perfectly - way better phones already out that can do this easier (TyTnII, imho) )
I do like the camera though, and the weird not-quite-VGA 240x400 resolution.
I agree. I am not interested in flashing a new ROM but would rather customize a few features usings cabs and so forth.
There are some widgets that I would like to use myself. This is very similar to the Vista sidebar that I have become familiar with and appreciate now.
Hi,
i found the related widgets, on rapidshare or megauload.it works fine
on a Qvga pda, but on mine (I780) i have resolution problems
Bye
Herc.
yeah i found a thread in the general-hacking and development section where someone has already made a cab for the widgets. after installing you have to reset your device for them to appear in the today plugins selection. the widgets are really cool but not being able to edit the apps they control at the moment kinda sucks. some of them dont do anything because they are supposed to be connected to programs in the Omnia I900
Lets see where I should start. Well first this would not be my first windows mobile phone.. In the past year I have went from iphone>Sony Ericsson P1i>Palm Treo Pro>Sony Ericsson X1a>HTC Dream (Anroid G1)> Touch Diamond. I've always wanted the Touch Diamond when it first came, but i was scared to get it. As you can see all my previous devices have had a keyboard. The G1 has a lot of nice apps, friendly gui and very touch sensitive but it has no 3g for me since im in USA with ATT. As for the phone i am using right now the X1. I really like it alot but there are not too many developers out there cooking roms. I would like to give the touch diamond a try..
For those of you out there that do a lot of texting/Emailing/Im'ing please let me know what your experiences are like.
I have a question about the batt life. one of my main concern. Every phone i have had would last me about 2/4 to 3/4 of the day. I would have to charge the phone every chance i get. Do any of you guys use any im programs such as parlingo or im+?
What is the best im program out there for the phone? (i use to use agile messenger as i thought was one of the best. not sure if it would work on this device)
I would like to hear any x1 and touch diamond owners insights. (I would like to know how your browser experience is like with the 2 different device. *really important to me* I like how the iphone is really sensitive in scrolling and clicking of links. Is the touch diamond anything like that?)
I do kind of look forward to the accelerometer as the x1 does not have this feature.
lazytrax said:
Is the touch diamond anything like that?)
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No, it is not.
humm maybe i should wait for another device..
This guy has no clue what he is speaking about...
Palringo works very well on the phone.
With the correct ROM it's extremely quick, great battery life.
With all that being said, you're on ATT. Get the Fuze(touch pro). Has hardware keyboard, and a bit wider. Same software as HTC Diamond, same amount of ROMs(if not more). Plus, US 3G support.
I have diamond, used to have Kaiser.
made the switch because was using touchpal as default sip for texting emails ext. realized i barely ever slid out keyboard (unless someone else was going to use it)
so i would say try touchpal on one of your existing WM devices see if you can use it for more than a day without reverting to your slide out keyboard, maybe look into some other sips out there if you have something you like.
if you find you can't live without the hardware keyboard > Go for the touch pro
if you find maybe software is good enouph > Go diamond
Touchpal here : http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
Browser is good (its opera 9.5 you can probably download it on another device and test it as well), its capatible with flash light so you can use it for flash content pages it isn't as fast or as smooth as iphone but it is REALLY close, has upto 3 tabs and the main benef is you get a full download manager so you can save whatever you want (eg. cab files from xda )
battery is decent, i usually get a day out of it but thats because i use it as a gameboy among other things. extended batteries are available ranging in from $7 - $80US but can take the diamond upto 3000mah
and finally with some quick tweaking you can get the screen sensetivity up (still won't be as good as iphone tho) and with TouchResponse you can enable hepatic feedback (vibrate on touch)
sweet thanks a lot for the mini review. i think i will try it on my x1 and see how that goes.
I still can't understand why you people use and like Manila? It's old UI already ~ 2 years old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmj-Rv-U-tw
just look at this video, look what you can do with SPB + 6.1 mobile + Xperia. It's 10 times for usefull than any Manila. It's faster, no bugs! No sleep death and etc! I was using Manila for 4 month, and after 2.5 LEO i understood that this idea of interface is dead ( HTC understood it too, that's why the created Sense UI on Android )
i still prefer plain 6.5 (titanium) without manila for it's functionality.
i use manila just to show other people that my x1 can still go further with regards
to customization and eye candy (an overused phrase by the way )
same goes for spb.
what i dont like is too much scrolling and too much flips before you get to touch the app you're actually looking for.
but to each his own
btw, how old is spb?
biernes_atrece said:
i still prefer plain 6.5 (titanium) without manila for it's functionality.
i use manila just to show other people that my x1 can still go further with regards
to customization and eye candy (an overused phrase by the way )
same goes for spb.
what i dont like is too much scrolling and too much flips before you get to touch the app you're actually looking for.
but to each his own
btw, how old is spb?
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lol truth...
can you please share a guide how you got it set up like that please.
tay200k said:
can you please share a guide how you got it set up like that please.
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+1... please i want it too
just for eye-candy only i guess ...
Seems like trolling to me...
I use manila since I can see all the info I want at a glance and it's easy to get to the data and apps I want with a single slide or tap or hardware keypress (two for less used apps, three for least used, which is good organisation since it matches how we function in real life). There are shortcuts on Leo today screen and the interface is very intuitive. You don't have to "learn" where things are or spend hours setting it up... Enough reasons?
I guess if I wasn't flashing my device so often I may use something that takes time to set up, but is very customisable like SPB, but... I flash a LOT.
n-zocker said:
+1... please i want it too
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Μe too... Just for change!!
Oobly said:
Seems like trolling to me...
I use manila since I can see all the info I want at a glance and it's easy to get to the data and apps I want with a single slide or tap or hardware keypress (two for less used apps, three for least used, which is good organisation since it matches how we function in real life). There are shortcuts on Leo today screen and the interface is very intuitive. You don't have to "learn" where things are or spend hours setting it up... Enough reasons?
I guess if I wasn't flashing my device so often I may use something that takes time to set up, but is very customisable like SPB, but... I flash a LOT.
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What he said.
In my opinion titanium is terrible, SPB shell looks very nice but ater 2 weeks i back to manilla.
Why?
In my opinion newset manilla aka HTC sense not only looks better but also is much more intuitive. HTC also prepared many soft within which SPB simply doesnt'have at all forcing to instal elternative ones.
As i have Diamond also it gives more reasons to use. Main is that only manilla audio manager works without problems with orginal HTC headphones.
I know that SPB shell is fast, manilla slow but despite of it manilla is more complex, easier to configure, more popular with much better XDA support.
Of course not everyone like it, so U can always change it for another ;-)
I don't understand the hype about Manila / Sense, also.
Well i looks nice, but thats all, imho it ist not very usefull for quick accessing Contacts, SMS or System Information.
I'm a great fan of PointUI Home2, which runs very smooth and offers a lot of the functionality i need.
Just my 2 cent.
I installed it but the only thing that changed, is the bottom bar... The clock??
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I still can't understand why you people use and like Manila? It's old UI already ~ 2 years old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmj-Rv-U-tw
just look at this video, look what you can do with SPB + 6.1 mobile + Xperia. It's 10 times for usefull than any Manila. It's faster, no bugs! No sleep death and etc! I was using Manila for 4 month, and after 2.5 LEO i understood that this idea of interface is dead ( HTC understood it too, that's why the created Sense UI on Android )
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what noob shot this video?
ever heard about macro mode?
this video only causes headache.
besides is there still the bug with the buttons' alignment of "sence ui" in landscape mode (you can't see that in the video!)?
ps: I don't like manila either.
besides, you can have sense with titanium as well (http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-...o-com/294091/wm6-5-skin-wqvga-titanium-sense/)!
AndiCP said:
what noob shot this video?
ever heard about macro mode?
this video only causes headache.
besides is there still the bug with the buttons' alignment of "sence ui" in landscape mode (you can't see that in the video!)?
ps: I don't like manila either.
besides, you can have sense with titanium as well (http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-...o-com/294091/wm6-5-skin-wqvga-titanium-sense/)!
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thanks and sorry that i made a video and didn't asked you, and sorry that i don't have a good camera. Sense on titanium can't compare anyhow with sense on SPB IMHO. Yes there is bug with button align but...i myself use landscape only wile typing and win mob sms app works in landscape - you knew that?
I use manilla because I can't buy Pointui 2 pro. I'm from Germany and don't have a mastercard, paypal or everything else. Thats the fact.
cemetry
I only use Leo for the twitter integration. I love my news on the go right there with no reason to open an app.
Coming to think of it, that is the only reason why I use Leo but lately im thinking about going back to the default xperia rom.
cemetry said:
I use manilla because I can't buy Pointui 2 pro. I'm from Germany and don't have a mastercard, paypal or everything else. Thats the fact.
cemetry
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i only use pointui home free 2.1.0.4 since it doesn't have this nasty activation screen every startup and imo it is good enough. i do not really miss any 'pro' features. if you have any questions do not hesitate to contact me.