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ALK to release CoPilot 7 GPS for WM6 next week

I spoke with ALK today. They should have the new version (7) up on their website by the end of next week. They are currently taking preorders. If anyone is interested in preordering or have questions about the product, you call them at 888-872-8768 x210 or send an email at [email protected] . I preordered my copy last month for my TyTN II and I'm excited to try it out an review it for the other forum members
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Here is what is new in CoPilot Live :
New map display with colorful 2D/3D maps, 3D points of interest icons, and powerful zoom capabilities.
New smoother map movement more natural and realistic location and movement on-screen.
New user-selectable color themes and map styles including industry-standard map styles
New Route preview -now you can review and experience an entire trip before you drive
New natural voice directions in 14 languages provide clearer turn instructions
New Points of Interest database easily find the nearest gas station, restaurant or hotel with over 6 million choices including phone numbers.
New walking, cycling and motorcycle routing options provide guidance suited to the pedestrian motorcyclist or cyclist, ignoring vehicle restrictions where appropriate.
New CoPilot® Central™ desktop software. CoPilot Central makes easy to plan a trip, download maps, points of interest and other content to CoPilot Live on your device.
Redesigned, non-distracting Driver Safety view including additional display options of 2D or 3D map near a turn
Improved detour function - with more information provided to help find the best alternative route around unexpected roadblocks and traffic.
Latest maps of North America including over 600 counties updated and over 100,000 miles of new road
Simplified user interface with large finger-touch buttons and intuitive menus. CoPilot Live is easier to use than ever before
Simplified address entry with more choice, fewer steps and predictive address searching.
Improved real-time traffic enabled nationwide
Improved routing engine with additional personalized profiles and scenic routing
One software version for Windows Devices with support for Pocket PC 2003, Windows Mobile 6 and 5.0 devices
Live Tracking as standard
In addition to satellite navigation, CoPilot Live 7 also provides real-time tracking using a connected phone or Pocket PC’s built-in mobile Internet connection. Friends, family or colleagues will be able to monitor your progress, send you messages and even new destinations in real time, wherever you are, via the internet

...and here is what it looks like on the Kaiser, very smooth graphics at 10FPS !
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We have a thread about it here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80008

Any news about pricing? CoPilot is relatively more expensive than TomTom. Is it worth shelling out more (if that is the case) considering we already have TomTom on the Tytn II and 'only' need the maps?

CoPilot 7 not working ... no fun!
I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Where did you get it from?

Initial Impressions of CoPilot 7
I know there have been many discussions regarding GPS SW here & elsewhere. I have been looking for GPS mapping SW that; 1- is resident on the Tilt, 2 - capable of obtaining maps for all of NA, Europe & Austraila, 3 - does not require a live Internet connection, but will use it if available to provide U.S. city traffic & other services and 4 does not require a monthly subscription fee.
Based on various discussions, I had pre-ordered the new version of CoPilot 7 under the 30 day return policy. They were very good during the order process, answering my questions promptly. The SW arrived on Friday 11/9. I installed it & spent the last 2 days out using it around Colorado. Here are my initial impressions...
Installation:
Copied the files from their uSD card to my 6GB uSD. Plugged the card in & the install went without problem. It found the Tilt GPS without any configuration. (I'm also running / testing VisualGPS, GPSGate, Google Maps on this Tilt) I also installed the PC version of CoPilot for planning. This also went in w/o problem.
Operation:
As a relatively knowledgeable user, I always attempt to use the product w/o reading any manual. This tells me how intuitive the operation is & I use that as a measurement on how well it was designed. On this count, I was less than impressed. The UI at first touch was not intutitve. This changed a little over time & by following the tips at startup. I like the voice directions, but miss the voice not naming the up-coming street name for the turn.
One major thing I noticed is that the lookup of POIs is very slow & sometimes didn't find things like major airports (Denver's DIA) or attractions (Mount Evans & Pikes Peak) properly.
Operation of the PC-based planning SW was also not intuitive. I finally figured it out, but it could use work. Double clicks were used when a single click selection was more intutitive.
On the plus side, after I got a couple of trips planned, they executed almost flawlessly. When I deviated from the planned route, the SW re-routed quickly and gave relatively good voice directions for the change.
Maps:
They seem like they may be a little out of date. They placed the GPS location of my house in the correct place physically, but in the wrong city by name. Some of the routing provided by the system attempts to take me through a street in my area that is permenently closed & has been for 2 years. When attempting to load a destination address, and the street in not in the map DB, it will not allow loading of the destination. This was a street in IL that has been there for at least 2 years.
Considering the competition:
I'm not into TeleNav as I don't want to pay by the month and I need maps outside the US w/o a large data bill. I don't feel like I want to be nickled & dimed on the cost of maps like some of the other products. I do want to be able to receive traffic updates for the U.S. The maps & SW must be able to be put on my card now & in the future as they get larger and not locked to the Vendors uSD card (Garmin).
Concludions:
Will I keep CoPilot? I'm not sure yet. Compared to what's out there, I might be able to get used to the UI. I wish they provided a way to give feedback on the map errors & allow more rapid fixes to be downloaded.
Sorry for the long-winded post. I'm going to keep using this for a while & I expect that as I become more familiar with the UI, the experiance should get better.
A quick additional note... CoPilot does have an on-line feedback mechinism for errors in maps. I will be driving my area to document the changes. Still not sure how long it will take to get the updates into the maps.
Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.

clove.co.uk have it in stock and selling it for £79.90
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91

I received mine directly from CopPilot. I am a long time user of the product and get email notifications. www.copilotgps.com

jskoller said:
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Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.
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Just wondering, I bought mine directly from CoPilot's website. Where do they mention the 30 day return policy? I might return mine since it is missing Text-2-Speech functionality.
- TKN

Best GPS Software for Kaiser?

Hey Folks -
I'm looking for the killer turn-by-turn software (with US Maps) - that I can digitally buy and install to my MicroSD. I've done a number of searches online looking for a product I can order and download (yes, I have the fever - IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION IS NECESSARY) and get working with.
POI's are very important to me as is speed and stability...
Can anyone chime in with their preference? Please also supply a URL where I can purchase your favorite application...
Thanks!
StacT

uh tomtom?

there's a million threads like this, just use a search.. u'll get ur answers instantly and won't have to wait.
Having said that, I tried Destinator, TomTom, Garmin XT, TeleNav and I still stayed with iGo, which I love above all others.
Some have cool features like traffic and all that.. some are just pain in the ass (destinator).. so if you can - try it all before u buy.

Of course - I know about the players (MIO, TOMTOM, etc...) but can't find a digital distributor for just the software to install on my kaiser (like pocketgear or handango)... do you have a link?

http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_ro_buy
scroll down to USA
wow.. they're actually really close to me, like 15-20 miles from me..
Anyway.. they have excellent US maps, at least I'm very happy with CA map - very detailed, over 2 million POIs.

Thanks for all the thoughts so far, but neither of them fits the bill -
1] The software must have North American/USA maps... iGo doesn't
2] The software must be downloadable...
Thanks!

Google maps. real-time and cheap!

liquidsilver said:
Google maps. real-time and cheap!
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Uh, cheap? It's free and sucks since you're download as you drive so a lot of the time maps just time-out. Mio Maps is one of the best, and TomTom is probably the best as far as being user friendly and simple, but, TomTom is pretty slow compared to Mio.

How about iGuidance v.4?
I've been using it for a few months. It has text-to-speech. The only problem is, you might i need GPSgate as some of the WM6.1 here doesn't refresh the screen often enough.
I've used TomTom too, it was nice but doesn't have text-to-speech.

I've used TomTom and it was pretty good, user friendly... only thing I didn't like about it was the routing and as the screen is touched it'll take you to the menu.
I've switched to Garmin and found that the one which suits me well so far --- more detail on maps, nothing popping up while touching the map on the screen, and looks a lot simpler. Its navigation software is not as "realtime" as TomTom, but is probably the most simplest to setup, install, and use

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I don't know of one of the majors that is. With bandwidth costs they rarely fancy giving you GBs of map to download. Just buy one on a disc.

does anyone know of a good free one which allows you to put your own maps eg a photo of an os map or jpeg in for calibrating for camping hiking walking about woods ect.

I have been using a combination of TomTom and Google Maps. I use Google Maps for most of my POI's since they are updated, contain phone numbers, and are just plain easier to use. The TomTom POI's aren't that fantastic I've noticed. But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
My only complaint with TomTom is that you need around 1GB of storage on your SD card so you need a large one (I'm holding out for those 32s!) and it looks ugly when installed on the card. Random files and folders everywhere and it has to be on the root of the card. I'm a neat freak when it comes to file layouts so it drives me crazy.

what about ms live search?
I used it a few times on my recent vacation, it worked very well. Same benefits and drawbacks as google maps, but I think I like it's interface better than google maps.

Live Search has an arguably better navigation setup that Google Maps. GM closes when it loses it's data connection so it's worthless between cities where cell coverage is weak. MS does a better job of caching the maps and will stay active, showing the route and turns even when the data connection is lost. if I could only have one of them for road trips, it would be MS Live Search.

I've had no problems using iGuidance other than on several occasions, it took about 3 minutes to open for some reason. I also use Live Search and Google for a quick find when I need it.

godfa7h3r said:
But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
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haha i do the same exact thing,.... now if somebody could make a program where with one click u can transfer the address from google maps to tomtom, i'd pay for it

co-pilot live 7 will interface directly with MS live search if they ever release the NO CHARGE upgrade. it has been announced and was scheduled for release this month
BTW I paid $199 when Co-pilot 7 was released last year but the current price is $99 i guess the <$100 competition is getting to them.
I use and like Co-pilot live USA. I can't speak for other maps. the software comes preloaded on 2 gig SD card but you also get it on DVD. I copied the SD folders to my 6 gig SD card and all worked fine. the activation key is stored on local file sysem. but if you have to do a hard reset you can reactivate on same phone with no hassel.
for more info see www.alk.com

I have copilot as well, but at the $99 price point. The WM version is very nice. It comes with companion software for the desktop that just wont work on my vista laptop though.
Still for $150, you could buy a stand alone gps. But I thought about it and I always have this with me, so why buy another device? I didn't want to carry one.

What GPS software r u using?

Colleagues,
I am getting a Fuze for XMas and would like to know what GPS software are you all using?
Regards.

I use a free over-the-air package, amazegps.com. It does turn-by-turn voice prompting, moving 3D maps, etc. I've been very pleased with it so far.

WMM,
I take it you live in the US; do you know how it compares to others, whether paid or free?

I haven't done extensive comparisons; my use of GPS navigation is pretty limited, and the amazegps.com package meets my needs very well, so I haven't had much motivation to look further. I did sign up for the free trial of the TeleNav (AT&T Navigator) package and tried it a few times. As you would expect for $10/month, TeleNav is definitely flashier -- you can give the destination address using voice recognition, and it has text-to-speech to read you the names of the roads onto which you will be turning. It also has traffic advisories. If I used it a lot and were in a city with traffic jams to worry about, I'd definitely think the TeleNav features were worth it.
I've also seen rave reviews for OnCourse Navigator 8 (OCN8). Although I haven't used it myself, the screen shots and descriptions were really impressive.
Those are the only other two products I know anything about. For myself, amazegps.com gets me reliably from point A to point B without getting lost, and without my paying a cent for it, so that's more than good enough for me.

I've used Telenav and like the features. Text to speech (tells you the name of the street or exit to turn on) is great, the ability to send your phone a destination via the PC is nice as well. I've used the voice recognition feature but it's cumbersome and doesn't work well while driving (where this is needed).
I have use Copilot on the PC and love it. I would have purchased it for the ppc but it's expensive.
I am now using Garmin XT and have been for over a year. They have recently improved the OSD while navigating and knowing where to turn is a lot easier. Garmin XT does not have text to speech but does have almost every other feature of the top Garmin stand alone navigation devices. The program even has some features that are better than the Garmin PND. The app comes installed on a 2 gig micro sd card but there are ways of moving it to bigger cards. I have used this app on my ATT Tilt, HTC Advantage and now the ATT Fuze. Like the advantage I can start a music playlist then open the Garmin app and begin to navigate.
There are others I would like to try (TomTom, Navigon, IGo and Copilot) but my $$ is the bottleneck to new gadgets and toys.

how does that AmazeGPS compare to GoogleMaps?
I went on the website and it says their both free. So im guessing its the same quality as googlemaps.

Thanks for your replies.
Anyone else know of any other freeware?
Regards.

TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028 does the trick for me!
I use it every day

Garmin Mobile XT 5.0.20w

can google maps be used like a gps device?

I have been using OCN6 for Street Navigation. I have ordered OCN8 which looks amazing. I use Memory-Map Navigator for topographic Navigation.

Alucard_11 said:
how does that AmazeGPS compare to GoogleMaps?
I went on the website and it says their both free. So im guessing its the same quality as googlemaps.
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They are for different purposes. Google maps can use the GPS to show you where you are on a map; it can give you a route from one place to another; and it can follow you as you drive along. It is not a turn-by-turn navigator program; i.e., it doesn't give you spoken prompts like "In 500 feet, turn right" and such, and it doesn't given you a "3D" map were you appear to be flying over a map with perspective, both of which AmazeGPS does. I have and use both; Google maps is better for "where am I," and AmazeGPS is better for "take me to XYZ."

Thanks for all the great suggestions! Does GPS require/use a data package?

Telmap. Not sure if it's free still... it was earlier this week in beta, and so far... it's pretty damn good. Voice navigation, built in POIs, traffic reports, fast to get GPS signals, and more. It also showed me a better route to take which was faster than what I would have usually done.

Nav4all
Check out nav4all its pretty good its nav4all.com

legend12 said:
Thanks for all the great suggestions! Does GPS require/use a data package?
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It depends. Programs like amazeGPS and TeleNav get all their data, except for your current coordinates, over the air and thus require a data package. Programs that you buy or install on an SD card have the maps on your phone but will still use data for things like traffic and weather information (but I believe you can configure them not to use data if you want).
AmazeGPS has an interesting mode where you need data only when you're doing the routing. That way you can construct the route using an ActiveSync or wifi (i.e., possibly free) connection, and then while you're driving, it will still give you vocal prompts but only show you arrows for your turns instead of moving maps, so it doesn't use any over-the-air data while navigating.

After vmm mentioned amAzeGPS I have done more research and I have read amAzing things about it so I will give it a try when I get my Fuze.
Thank you all.

MenosOcho said:
Garmin Mobile XT 5.0.20w
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Same. Really like it.

I used Tomtom 7 Navigator Black Edition
FUZE GPS really sucks

i used Nav N Go iGO 8.

Best free GPS???

I've read pages of GPS threads and I can't figure out what I should use. Some say TT7, some say Google Maps, etc. I want one that works that I don't have to pay a monthly fee for. I don't mind a one time purchase. I want GPS navigation.

brrymnvette said:
I've read pages of GPS threads and I can't figure out what I should use. Some say TT7, some say Google Maps, etc. I want one that works that I don't have to pay a monthly fee for. I don't mind a one time purchase. I want GPS navigation.
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TomTom 7 available here you only gey a free base map and there are no voices "you can downlaod a voice for free from TomTom on handset" then if you like you can buy the maps pretty cheap UK & Ireland £30, so one hell of a saving.
Hope this helps.

I know you siad free ,the free programs are not bad but they do not even compare to the ones you pay for. I have been using this for several years now,I travel a lot and they are very good about updates .
iGuidance 2009 Laptop & UMPC/Car PC Edition
http://www.inavcorp.com/product/navigation/iguidance_pc.php
screen shots
http://www.inavcorp.com/product/gallery/iguidance_gallery.php
I did get a good discount with my member ship at aximsite.com

Google maps is not a GPS

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Google Maps does use GPS. It just doesn't work out routes for you and tell you where to turn left/right etc.

my vote goes for iGO8. Works very well on my kasier

dancj said:
Google Maps does use GPS. It just doesn't work out routes for you and tell you where to turn left/right etc.
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Oh yes it does.
It won't SPEAK the directions, but it most certainly does compute turn-by-turn driving directions. You have to "advance" to the next turn by hand (pushing the button) and it doesn't talk, but it does and will compute routes and use the internal GPS.
Its also more complete and up to date than the "packaged" solutions out there in my experience.
The disadvantage is that it requires an active data connection where the "prepackaged" stuff with the maps on an SD card do not.

Mines goes to igo8 also,
it may or may not be free, unless you look for it...
but its probably the best GPS software ive used. Its feature packed and super smooth on the kaiser.
Google maps would be nice if we can download the maps and keep them in sync through alternative data connections maybe in another year or so...

It depends with your country and the map also,.
i live in indonesia - surabaya, and the only map for surabaya that best is in ".img" so thats why i use Garmin Mobile XT and sometime Navitel, both are great,.
but if you want a better menu display, just try iGO,.

all cant be free, unless you unlock it,.

So what ones dont need a active data connection? I know google maps needs a connection but i need the maps on my device.

CoPilot Live 7 for me, worked fine on Kaiser.

Gmaps most certainly does tell you when to turn etc. No it doesnt have an annoying female voice that says it, but it pops up on the screen. Works great for me, hell w/ street view, sometimes when we cant find an address at work, we just hit street view and look at the front of the building.
You mentioned something about connection: If your not paying for data your not really using your tilt anyway.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned windows live search mobile. This is one of my favorite apps and does a lot more than just gps-enabled turn by turn directions.
I highly recommend it. It's no TomTom, but it's free and it does the job.

I will second the comment about Microsoft Live Search. They actually got something right! It's a very convenient program. I don't believe it speaks directions but it does do the turn by turn directions very well.
I personally use iGuidance on an iPaq for long travel navigation but it isn't as user friendly as Live Search which is what I use in a pinch and to get a second opinion on occasion. iGuidance you will have to pay for, and the mapping is very good and it will speak the directions as a normal GPS will do. But Live Search is very cool because you literally just say where you wanna go and it will look it up and take you right there. iGuidance also doesn't have very many Points of Interest but Live Search is full of POIs.
iGuidance will not require you to have a data connection but you will need a few GB of space to load all the maps. Live Search takes very little space but will require a Data Connection to download the maps as you go.
iGuidance ~ $100
Live Search = $0 (but need data connection)
Hope that helps!

shus said:
iGuidance will not require you to have a data connection but you will need a few GB of space to load all the maps. Live Search takes very little space but will require a Data Connection to download the maps as you go.
iGuidance ~ $100
Live Search = $0 (but need data connection)
Hope that helps!
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If you travel a lot, or in area that have very poor connections a dedicated GPS software is the only way to go.....
IG =$100 but good for several years and if you change devices you can install on them, IG space requirements will depend on how big of a map you want to load ,1 gig will do the whole U.S.
if you have a good size contact list, with IG you can pull up the contact and it will take you there...
Live search + $0 but it relies a decent connection , and if you are a heavy user of your data plan , well it could put you over your unlimited plan..another dowside , updates can get slow if your not in a G or e network..
IMO spend the money on a dedicated GPS software..on use live search as you need it...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BSGPSPDA

NoNafs said:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BSGPSPDA
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Does that actually work for you? When I tried it, it always stalled trying to download the maps.
Plus it's nowhere as good as Google Maps or Live and basically the same function (downloads maps, shows your position).

Unfortunately, I'm currently seperated from my Kaiser so I haven't been able to try it. But, being overseas my options are limited, and Google Maps and Windows Mobile Live doesn't cut it. Christian72D has had a lot of success with this program though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452765

Free and working
Did you ever try NAV4ALL? It's totally free and works in a decent way too. It doesn't have the easiest interface of this world but it does work.
http://www.nav4all.com/
Enjoy.

GPS Apps and Trapster

Guys, if your using VZNavigator and your like me, you have spent some time looking for a reliable replacement for the 9.99/mo charge of VZNavigator.
Well after looking a bunch I found a viable solution that is only a 1.66/mo.
Urban Horizon. This is a full featured GPS app as well as 3D virtualization program revealing buildings and topology. I dropped VZNavigator today.
Also if your looking to avoid speedtraps and cop stops and red light pictures please give the free app trapster a full review. So far it has been very reliable and popular in my area. (New Jersey / New York) Its real time data tracking and maps / traffic in one app, very useful.

Links are helpful

TRAPSTER
http://www.trapster.com/
URBAN HORIZON
http://www.novlummobile.com/

Does the GPS app work good? i have heard that some Navigation programs are not that great. Is it a real Nav or does it use the browser? How do you think it performs?????? I thought you had to get one that was actually in a memory card to be a real GPS? I could be wrong and thats why I'm asking you about performance.....because I'm looking for a good one at this time...
thanks

I use Google Maps layered with Nav4All...Google has great map and turn by turn directions while driving, but not voice. Thats where Nav4All comes in. Just punch the directions in Nav4all, then open Google Maps repeat the directions and be on your way to your destination with visual and audio navigation!
I do not take credit for coming up with this, but thanks to wherever I saw it!

IGO 8, TT7, or Garmin XT are the only ways to go. Do some searching.

HTCexy said:
I use Google Maps layered with Nav4All...Google has great map and turn by turn directions while driving, but not voice. Thats where Nav4All comes in. Just punch the directions in Nav4all, then open Google Maps repeat the directions and be on your way to your destination with visual and audio navigation!
I do not take credit for coming up with this, but thanks to wherever I saw it!
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GPS App
I am using CoPilot Live 8 and it is working very well. It has turn-by-turn, voice guidance, POIs, etc., etc., etc. Best of all there is NO monthly fee. I bought it on sale for $19.99 during the Black Friday sale, and it is on sale for $24.99 right now. No . . . I don't work for them - it just works really well for me! Give it a look.
Take a look at http://www.alk.com/copilot/

Does Copilot work in the US? Couldn't find the info on their website.

It does work in the US.
The version I bought has maps (to download) for all of North America. I downloaded them to my PC with the destop software (I think they call it Copilot Central 2.0) you can also download, and then copied that to my Imagio. Just remember to connect to your Imagio as a Disk Drive rather than ActiveSync when you copy the maps. This writes them directly to your storage card. I forgot to do this the first time and it attempted, unsuccessfully as you can imagine, to write the gigabyte+ file to the storage memory. :-(

Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I like VZNavigator, but I like $10 a month more ;-)

Yea, and for me - a one-time fee of $24.99 is all the better!