I spoke with ALK today. They should have the new version (7) up on their website by the end of next week. They are currently taking preorders. If anyone is interested in preordering or have questions about the product, you call them at 888-872-8768 x210 or send an email at [email protected] . I preordered my copy last month for my TyTN II and I'm excited to try it out an review it for the other forum members
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Here is what is new in CoPilot Live :
New map display with colorful 2D/3D maps, 3D points of interest icons, and powerful zoom capabilities.
New smoother map movement more natural and realistic location and movement on-screen.
New user-selectable color themes and map styles including industry-standard map styles
New Route preview -now you can review and experience an entire trip before you drive
New natural voice directions in 14 languages provide clearer turn instructions
New Points of Interest database easily find the nearest gas station, restaurant or hotel with over 6 million choices including phone numbers.
New walking, cycling and motorcycle routing options provide guidance suited to the pedestrian motorcyclist or cyclist, ignoring vehicle restrictions where appropriate.
New CoPilot® Central™ desktop software. CoPilot Central makes easy to plan a trip, download maps, points of interest and other content to CoPilot Live on your device.
Redesigned, non-distracting Driver Safety view including additional display options of 2D or 3D map near a turn
Improved detour function - with more information provided to help find the best alternative route around unexpected roadblocks and traffic.
Latest maps of North America including over 600 counties updated and over 100,000 miles of new road
Simplified user interface with large finger-touch buttons and intuitive menus. CoPilot Live is easier to use than ever before
Simplified address entry with more choice, fewer steps and predictive address searching.
Improved real-time traffic enabled nationwide
Improved routing engine with additional personalized profiles and scenic routing
One software version for Windows Devices with support for Pocket PC 2003, Windows Mobile 6 and 5.0 devices
Live Tracking as standard
In addition to satellite navigation, CoPilot Live 7 also provides real-time tracking using a connected phone or Pocket PC’s built-in mobile Internet connection. Friends, family or colleagues will be able to monitor your progress, send you messages and even new destinations in real time, wherever you are, via the internet
...and here is what it looks like on the Kaiser, very smooth graphics at 10FPS !
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We have a thread about it here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80008
Any news about pricing? CoPilot is relatively more expensive than TomTom. Is it worth shelling out more (if that is the case) considering we already have TomTom on the Tytn II and 'only' need the maps?
CoPilot 7 not working ... no fun!
I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Where did you get it from?
Initial Impressions of CoPilot 7
I know there have been many discussions regarding GPS SW here & elsewhere. I have been looking for GPS mapping SW that; 1- is resident on the Tilt, 2 - capable of obtaining maps for all of NA, Europe & Austraila, 3 - does not require a live Internet connection, but will use it if available to provide U.S. city traffic & other services and 4 does not require a monthly subscription fee.
Based on various discussions, I had pre-ordered the new version of CoPilot 7 under the 30 day return policy. They were very good during the order process, answering my questions promptly. The SW arrived on Friday 11/9. I installed it & spent the last 2 days out using it around Colorado. Here are my initial impressions...
Installation:
Copied the files from their uSD card to my 6GB uSD. Plugged the card in & the install went without problem. It found the Tilt GPS without any configuration. (I'm also running / testing VisualGPS, GPSGate, Google Maps on this Tilt) I also installed the PC version of CoPilot for planning. This also went in w/o problem.
Operation:
As a relatively knowledgeable user, I always attempt to use the product w/o reading any manual. This tells me how intuitive the operation is & I use that as a measurement on how well it was designed. On this count, I was less than impressed. The UI at first touch was not intutitve. This changed a little over time & by following the tips at startup. I like the voice directions, but miss the voice not naming the up-coming street name for the turn.
One major thing I noticed is that the lookup of POIs is very slow & sometimes didn't find things like major airports (Denver's DIA) or attractions (Mount Evans & Pikes Peak) properly.
Operation of the PC-based planning SW was also not intuitive. I finally figured it out, but it could use work. Double clicks were used when a single click selection was more intutitive.
On the plus side, after I got a couple of trips planned, they executed almost flawlessly. When I deviated from the planned route, the SW re-routed quickly and gave relatively good voice directions for the change.
Maps:
They seem like they may be a little out of date. They placed the GPS location of my house in the correct place physically, but in the wrong city by name. Some of the routing provided by the system attempts to take me through a street in my area that is permenently closed & has been for 2 years. When attempting to load a destination address, and the street in not in the map DB, it will not allow loading of the destination. This was a street in IL that has been there for at least 2 years.
Considering the competition:
I'm not into TeleNav as I don't want to pay by the month and I need maps outside the US w/o a large data bill. I don't feel like I want to be nickled & dimed on the cost of maps like some of the other products. I do want to be able to receive traffic updates for the U.S. The maps & SW must be able to be put on my card now & in the future as they get larger and not locked to the Vendors uSD card (Garmin).
Concludions:
Will I keep CoPilot? I'm not sure yet. Compared to what's out there, I might be able to get used to the UI. I wish they provided a way to give feedback on the map errors & allow more rapid fixes to be downloaded.
Sorry for the long-winded post. I'm going to keep using this for a while & I expect that as I become more familiar with the UI, the experiance should get better.
A quick additional note... CoPilot does have an on-line feedback mechinism for errors in maps. I will be driving my area to document the changes. Still not sure how long it will take to get the updates into the maps.
Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.
clove.co.uk have it in stock and selling it for £79.90
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
I received mine directly from CopPilot. I am a long time user of the product and get email notifications. www.copilotgps.com
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Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.
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Just wondering, I bought mine directly from CoPilot's website. Where do they mention the 30 day return policy? I might return mine since it is missing Text-2-Speech functionality.
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can anyone point my in the right direction and if there is a solution?
i have found a few errors with the tomtom map's(uk), and i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a updated map!
Hi
Tomtom only release new maps with a version upgrade (at wich point the old maps no longer work). what version are you running at the moment.
Regards
The Pilgrim
PS for all GPS problems go here
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thanks for the reply,
i am not sure what version i am running, how do i found out?
i only brought my tomtom a week or so ago
also, since i posted last, i have found more errors, and that's all in a small area of about 25 miles radias of where i live!
what's it gonna be like over the whole country?
I gues coverage of the UK isnt that reliable.
Personally I havent see important errors in NL, D, CH and I (of course I did not check every road). Major Roads of Europe seems to be OK too, but as much roads are missing you have to watch out more.
I suppose you use TomTom3 which has the most recent maps available for TomTom.
Map errors can be sent via the TomTom website to Teleatlas (the map supplier)
There are many errors in tomtom, the company rely on users to report mistakes to them so these can be rectified in future releases. I think there will always be errors in a program such as this because it is a mammoth task to compile all data correctly, assuming several stages of development, there are many errors that can arise in the entry of data. I think that despite the errors it is an incredible program when you take into account the very small amount of memory and the constraints of the cpu speeds and pocket pc operating system. It has saved me many hours of frustration and stress even in central London where the opportunities to take the wrong road are numerous. If anything better exists I would like to hear about it.
I think we need to distinguish between errors in the program (to be adressed by TomTom) and errors in the mapping (to be adressed by Teleatlas).
I found two anoying issues with TomTom:
- Bluetooth usage (with rom 1.72), see other threads. I logged a questions on that.
- auto re-calc directs you to earlier route too long
i guess i am using tomtom 3, yes the errors are i suppose, minor! and i was just wondering, as i am new to the whole tomtom/gps if there was a new verison or updated maps! (but in general its has been a great help to my driving life!)
i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!
yes the software seems ok!
my issue is with the map's! i can be in a town, and it tells me that i am in a completly different county, but in the correct town that i am in etc
There is a town i visit quite often and its listed as the town near by and not the one i want. "you get what i mean, yes?"
Can you say which town/city you are referring to please. When I travel on the Cirencester road from junction 11a M5, I am told to turn left into the embankment surrounding the A road, on return it tells me to go right across the carriageway and into the same embankment/field, you have no choice but to ignore, it then tells me to turn around when possible but after ignoring this it gets back to normality.
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i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!
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this is called tomtom traffic. its a subcription service £32 P/A that downloads traffic information via gprs and displays incidents on your route.
you need to log in at the TT website and download the add-on there. i think you get 1 month free then you have to subscribe.
I must say the feature is by no means perfect. It does miss problems and report delays when there arn't any. i use it in conjunction with Radio traffic broadcasts and then make a judgement.
Regards
The Pilgrim
(the_pilgrim) thanks mate!!
(cruisin-thru) the town i am on about is baldock in hertfordshire,
it has baldock train station, but does know baldock town, its saying that it is letchworth, which is right next to baldock!
The way tomtom uses towns and placenames etc. is all to ****. The easiest way to navigate somewhere is via the postcode; but Tomtoms post code search is only 5 digits eg. DE72 3 this is also crap.
If you use this little gem its soooooo easy www.digitools.co.uk
this postcode program takes the whole postcode. This is usually about 20 houses (Possibly larger area in rural areas)
i would recommend installing Checkpoint before installing the postcode progam as this eases the instalation.
Checkpoint is a POI detector and can be downloaded here
http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/
it will alert you when you are a approaching a selectable POI.
If you use the speed camera database from here
www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php
you can receive camera warnings as you aproach them
The best part about these programs is they are all FREE
Regards
The Pilgrim
Maps
There are basically only two suppliers of GPS maps in the UK and Europe. And they update the maps every few months or so.
The GPS software retailers, like Tom Tom license at a certain point, and freeze, allowing them to make chargeable upgrades.
As Tom Tom charged about £30 for the last update - from 2 to 3 (including the full maps of Europe I had also purchased, at no extra cost) I didn't feel to badly off.
There is an area on the Tom Tom web site to notify map defects. But don't expect them to be fixed quickly.
Tom Tom does have some issues with the way it stores place names, where there are more than one name the same, it can mix them up. It must stores towns and places in separate tables and look up values as required. I live near Shirley in the West Midlands and Tom Tom displays it at Shirley, Southampton. But it knows where to send me home!
urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
i have tomtom 3 too. and i think the xda has pocket pc 2003 on it, am i right????
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
Navigator 2
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
CityMaps
Not Currently Supported
RoutePlanner
Not Currently Supported
go with checkpoint its free :wink:
The Pilgrim
gtivinny said:
urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
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I personnaly uses TomTom 3 + Check POInt 3.2 for all spedd cameras and other POI. it works great although I have found the setup of Check POI to be non intuitive (but will work if you follow their web site instructions).
Now if you want 99.5% accuacy with maps, you'll have to cross the channel and move to France. :lol: :lol: :lol:
The maps are amaizingly precise, which suggest it has something to do with the company from which TomTom buy the maps from.
i am getting a tilt 8925, can anyone help me here how to install any other navigation programs, so i don't need to use telenav which i need to pay this ocmpany 10 dollars a month. i am a total newbie here, please guide me or instruct me, thank you very much.
No you don't. You can either use google maps which requires data or get tomtom or igo which lets you download the maps so it uses no data or subscription.
No, I would quite discourage the use of Telenav. I had it for about 2 days and I was so disappointed I had it turned off immediately.
IMHO Microsoft Live kicks Googlemaps butt back to the Stone Age...
Download, install, enjoy, free of course!
http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
-RT
so tomtom is the only one that doesnt require a data plan?
TeleNav TomTom etc..Garmin Moble XT is my choice
If you want TeleNav then you need a data plan since it is server based..ie: no maps stored on your device.If you want traffic updates, gas prices etc..etc you'll need a data program with any of them and BE SURE to block your data service if you dont want that..otherwise it might and will connect to Media.Net and you'll have to pay.
I agree.TeleNav was awfull for me..I had 1 month free and stayed for another because I missed the cancel date. There were countless problems with connections to the server, its slow because its server based thus I missed alot of turns while it refreshed etc. Also at full volume it was not easy to hear on the phone. If you want the free month go directly to TeleNav.com. But there are much better programs out there. The upside is the Traffic Alerts, the Turn Voice says " turn left onto Main Street" and they are easy to cancel by phone..they must be use to it!!
Someone mentioned Live Search..I used that when TeleNav gave me problems, which was 4 days straight once, and it is a very good FREE GPS program ( if you dont want traffic etc). THe only thing it lacks is Voice and I found that to be to dangerous for me to use all the time. I drive about 3.5k a month. I still keep it as a back-up.
I didnt try TomTom and went straight to Garmin Moble XT..$99 bucks loaded on a 2gb micro card and there plenty room left on the card for other programs, data, music, pics, etc... The maps are VERY CLEAR , fast and easy to use. I have Media.Net and the traffic warning are good but not as easy to re-route or not re-route as TeleNav was while driving, although it does it automatically for you. Thats all user preference stuff, prorammable in the settings. It has VOICE which is clear and loud enough. It does not say "turn on main street" but does have adequate voice prompts ie" turn left in .2 miles... .1 miles....500ft...etc" Also it has a nice large text display of the turn on top of the map..easy to see with a glance. Oh yeah and a turn "tone" too. Customer support, for the one time I had a question, was so-so...but that seems to be a dying art everywhere. I didnt see a phone number either but I didnt look that close for that.
Hope that helps..I know I had questions with all this stuff myself
ciao!
TeleNav TomTom etc..Garmin Moble XT is my choice
Wanted to add..in addition you'll need a cradle and charger since the GPS drains a full charge in no time flat. I also bought the external GPS antennae which really, really helps in low signal areas and I recommend it..around $40 bucks shipped from various places
ciao!
edit; nvm, found answer.
Don't forget iGuidance 4. This is my choice as my personal favorite.
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No, several others do as well.
Do you already have a preferred GPS software? Chances are they make one for a PDA/SmartPhone.
RogueTrooper said:
IMHO Microsoft Live kicks Googlemaps butt back to the Stone Age...
Download, install, enjoy, free of course!
http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
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You are kidding, right? This is map of my area in DC Suburb, Sterling VA.
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The road in Orange has been there for 1 year and half, in Red for a Year, and in Pink for about 9 months.
It's no where to be seen on Windows Live.
So, you got a:
Not up-to-date map database
Low quality rendering with roads showing up as single pixel sticks
Road names not showing up unless you zoom in like crazy.
Who is in stone-age again?
i use Tom Tom navigator 6. i thinks there is cab file here for a free trial.
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You are kidding, right? This is map of my area in DC Suburb, Sterling VA.
The road in Orange has been there for 1 year and half, in Red for a Year, and in Pink for about 9 months.
It's no where to be seen on Windows Live.
So, you got a:
Not up-to-date map database
Low quality rendering with roads showing up as single pixel sticks
Road names not showing up unless you zoom in like crazy.
Who is in stone-age again?
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And for me in Lorton, VA GoogleMaps mobile doesn't have my street at all (lived here for 2.5 years and street was built 3+). LiveSearch does. Plus maps.google.com and GoogleEarth have my street. Explain that one.
So up to date maps for GoogleMaps vs LiveSearch may just be place specific. For my location LiveSearch is better. Plus I like the livesearch interface better and the voice recognition is awesome; I use it at least 3-4 times a week.
8925 GPS software
If you are gonna use software that is free then Windows live search is the better one that I have downloaded but it uses your data plan. If you want speech directions like "turn left in .8 miles" then the one I have used for the PDA is Garmin mobile XT. I had bought a NUVI 660 at the same time and I leave it home from time to time and just use my Att tilt with the Mobile XT software and a nice PDA holder (Akron 929) that attaches to the vents (install the clips upside down). You can set the Garmin Mobile XT to not use your data plan. But if you have a data plan allow Garmin XT to access the internet because you get free traffic via Garmin online before it calculates the route. Google maps does have a neet function in that you can "ping" a cell phone tower to get a general location within 1000"ft but useless if you have real GPS. Hope this helps.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/Garmin-Mobile-XT-MicroSDMiniSD-Software-Only-for-North-America__930.aspx For the Garmin Xt mobile Software
http://www.buygpsnow.com/arkon-universal-pda-vent-mount-w-360-swivel-vent-mount-pedestal-2nd-generation-317.aspx For the mount I bought
I agree, map accuracy is going to depend on location, from what I've seen with Live in my area it's totally fine. The features you get with Live are far better than they are with Google, being able to say 'Chinese Food' while you're driving and it points you to the closest one is just wayy too cool! Another nice feature is that it shows you your next direction, how far (and counts down as you get closer), beeps to let you know something is coming up, then gives you another tone to let you know you're on the right track. Do you REALLY need someone telling you to turn on Main street?
Personally, I just don't see the need to purchase one of the Commercial packages as what you get with Live is pretty good.
Besides, if I do have a problem with Live's maps I'll just load up Google!
Good luck!
-RT
I also perfer Live Search. For me when I enter an adress Live Search is usually right on. Google maps is a little off. My house is off by one home with Google, It is 3 houses off with a client's adress. I don't have this problm with Live Search.
sepig said:
i am getting a tilt 8925, can anyone help me here how to install any other navigation programs, so i don't need to use telenav which i need to pay this ocmpany 10 dollars a month. i am a total newbie here, please guide me or instruct me, thank you very much.
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Add on 12.11.2007: thanx all the replys and helps that helped me understand more about GPS. lots of you prefer window live search? because
i don't have any data plan, just 39.99 monthly fee. so i still be able to use that live search right? and how to install the Garmin Mobile XT and Live search in my 8925 ?????? please forgive me , i am really a phone newbie. thank you once once again.
Do NOT use live search on a pay per use data plan. It DOES USE DATA and at a pretty good clip too. On no data plan your only real option would be a purchased 3rd party app that includes maps without needing any download.
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Do NOT use live search on a pay per use data plan. It DOES USE DATA and at a pretty good clip too. On no data plan your only real option would be a purchased 3rd party app that includes maps without needing any download.
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thank you, it is clear now. i went to BT site downloading a Garmin XT mobile, and i plan to put it in my microSD card. so after i incert my card to 8925 kaiser, it will automatically work ?
Is there any freeware for Telenav on the Tilt
than paying $10 per month
like we did on the Mobi Tv & Xm Radio
Hey Folks -
I'm looking for the killer turn-by-turn software (with US Maps) - that I can digitally buy and install to my MicroSD. I've done a number of searches online looking for a product I can order and download (yes, I have the fever - IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION IS NECESSARY) and get working with.
POI's are very important to me as is speed and stability...
Can anyone chime in with their preference? Please also supply a URL where I can purchase your favorite application...
Thanks!
StacT
uh tomtom?
there's a million threads like this, just use a search.. u'll get ur answers instantly and won't have to wait.
Having said that, I tried Destinator, TomTom, Garmin XT, TeleNav and I still stayed with iGo, which I love above all others.
Some have cool features like traffic and all that.. some are just pain in the ass (destinator).. so if you can - try it all before u buy.
Of course - I know about the players (MIO, TOMTOM, etc...) but can't find a digital distributor for just the software to install on my kaiser (like pocketgear or handango)... do you have a link?
http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_ro_buy
scroll down to USA
wow.. they're actually really close to me, like 15-20 miles from me..
Anyway.. they have excellent US maps, at least I'm very happy with CA map - very detailed, over 2 million POIs.
Thanks for all the thoughts so far, but neither of them fits the bill -
1] The software must have North American/USA maps... iGo doesn't
2] The software must be downloadable...
Thanks!
Google maps. real-time and cheap!
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Google maps. real-time and cheap!
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Uh, cheap? It's free and sucks since you're download as you drive so a lot of the time maps just time-out. Mio Maps is one of the best, and TomTom is probably the best as far as being user friendly and simple, but, TomTom is pretty slow compared to Mio.
How about iGuidance v.4?
I've been using it for a few months. It has text-to-speech. The only problem is, you might i need GPSgate as some of the WM6.1 here doesn't refresh the screen often enough.
I've used TomTom too, it was nice but doesn't have text-to-speech.
I've used TomTom and it was pretty good, user friendly... only thing I didn't like about it was the routing and as the screen is touched it'll take you to the menu.
I've switched to Garmin and found that the one which suits me well so far --- more detail on maps, nothing popping up while touching the map on the screen, and looks a lot simpler. Its navigation software is not as "realtime" as TomTom, but is probably the most simplest to setup, install, and use
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I don't know of one of the majors that is. With bandwidth costs they rarely fancy giving you GBs of map to download. Just buy one on a disc.
does anyone know of a good free one which allows you to put your own maps eg a photo of an os map or jpeg in for calibrating for camping hiking walking about woods ect.
I have been using a combination of TomTom and Google Maps. I use Google Maps for most of my POI's since they are updated, contain phone numbers, and are just plain easier to use. The TomTom POI's aren't that fantastic I've noticed. But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
My only complaint with TomTom is that you need around 1GB of storage on your SD card so you need a large one (I'm holding out for those 32s!) and it looks ugly when installed on the card. Random files and folders everywhere and it has to be on the root of the card. I'm a neat freak when it comes to file layouts so it drives me crazy.
what about ms live search?
I used it a few times on my recent vacation, it worked very well. Same benefits and drawbacks as google maps, but I think I like it's interface better than google maps.
Live Search has an arguably better navigation setup that Google Maps. GM closes when it loses it's data connection so it's worthless between cities where cell coverage is weak. MS does a better job of caching the maps and will stay active, showing the route and turns even when the data connection is lost. if I could only have one of them for road trips, it would be MS Live Search.
I've had no problems using iGuidance other than on several occasions, it took about 3 minutes to open for some reason. I also use Live Search and Google for a quick find when I need it.
godfa7h3r said:
But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
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haha i do the same exact thing,.... now if somebody could make a program where with one click u can transfer the address from google maps to tomtom, i'd pay for it
co-pilot live 7 will interface directly with MS live search if they ever release the NO CHARGE upgrade. it has been announced and was scheduled for release this month
BTW I paid $199 when Co-pilot 7 was released last year but the current price is $99 i guess the <$100 competition is getting to them.
I use and like Co-pilot live USA. I can't speak for other maps. the software comes preloaded on 2 gig SD card but you also get it on DVD. I copied the SD folders to my 6 gig SD card and all worked fine. the activation key is stored on local file sysem. but if you have to do a hard reset you can reactivate on same phone with no hassel.
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I have copilot as well, but at the $99 price point. The WM version is very nice. It comes with companion software for the desktop that just wont work on my vista laptop though.
Still for $150, you could buy a stand alone gps. But I thought about it and I always have this with me, so why buy another device? I didn't want to carry one.
I just bought a fuze and was doing some searching on here but cant find an answer can someone post some links on install or purchase gps/nav software for the fuze like garmin, tomtom, igo and things like that i need a good gps program
GPS software
Definitely try before you buy.
I like and use iNav's iGuidance. There are versions for both the PC/UMPC and PDA. Its convenient to be able to run the same app on the PC (play routes and etc.)
You may need to use franson GPSgate (I'm not sure for the Fuze). I have an older Mugal and it's internal GPS has issues. GPSgate (a pay for app) allows your phone to be a Bluetooth GPS device, as well as record routes (even to the gpsgate.com).
thats great and all but where do i get these apps i dont mind paying for them.
also i was looking at standalone gps and noticed that some even tell you how fast your travling is there any thing out there like that
http://gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm
Outdated page but it gives you a wealth of info to get started on your quest for ppc gps programs. Alot of basic ones are freeware. The nicer ones are payware.
Myself I use Nav and Go (Igo) for my navigation software.
I use OCN8 (http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/). I really like it. The first place to look at GPS software is www.buygpsnow.com. They have most of th popular street navigation programs. If you want topographic navigation programs (off-road) I would look at Memory-Map Navigator (http://www.memory-map.com), OziExplorer (http://www.oziexplorer.com) and BackCountry Navigator (http://www.backcountrynavigator.com). There are other topographic programs available, but these are the three I like.
are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph
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are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph
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Most of them do, you just need to set it.
I use Igo 2006 on my PNA, its great!
Although im trying to get some gps app working on my HTC touch PRo....finding it rarther difficult!
Some things to pay attention to:
1) Navigation - detours, methods/options (fastest, shortest)
2) Alerts - speed, weather
3) Points of Interest - categories, how many, usefulness
4) Maps - span, updates, etc.
5) Update methodology - how often, cost, new features, patches, support
6) GPS compatible - NMEA, Garman
7) Compatibility - device, display, OS, routes files, maps
8) Trip computer - average speed, max. speed, time of arrival, etc.
Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).
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Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).
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And definitely check out amazegps.com: free, with moving maps and spoken turn-by-turn navigation assistance (which Live Search and Google Maps don't have).
All the programs I mentioned above will display your speed. You should really look at the screen captures for OCN8. I was never a fan of the 3D display. OCN6, the version before OCN8 changed that. It's 3D map display was excellent. In OCN8, they have made it even better. In OCN8, they added building for many larger cities and will show elevation changes on the map. I believe it is the first street navigation program to do that. It makes the 3D map display very realistic. ONC8 also has a trip computer. It will give average speed for the trip, average driving speed for the trip, total time for the trip, driving time and stopped time. OCN8 has also updated the menus to make them very finger friendly.
The other thing to figure out is which type of map a program uses. The two most common ones are TeleAtlas and Navteq, and also how recent they are.
I've found Navteq to be more complete in the US than TeleAtlas, atleast in my area.
Garmin PNA = Navteq
TomTom PNA = TeleAtlas
So if you've ever used the standalone GPS units, see which one has more complete maps in your area.
i have a quick question about google maps. when you set directions with gps, when you pass a checkpoint does it update to the next one? will it count down the distance to the next checkpoint, or turn?
I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.
OCN8 is based on iGO8 engine; actually is iGO8 rebranded for USA.
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I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.
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OCN8 is sold only on SD cards -- you can't move/copy it to a different card, so you have to use the one you bought. You pick the size of the card you want to buy it on, depending on how much additional space you want to have left over after the application and maps. I think the 2GB card has a couple of hundred MB left, so if you're planning to use the navigation program and have a lot of audio or video, too, you'd want to buy it on a 4 or 8GB card instead of the 2GB card.
(This, BTW, is a deal-breaker for me; I love what I've seen of OCN8 in reviews and such and would definitely buy it if I could put it on my own card, but I'm not going to pay them for the program AND a large card when I already have a card.)
does onc8 on the fuze move and look like the screenshots on there site or is it more chopy then that it seems to move very smothly
also does the fuze support the sdhc standard so i can get either the 4 or 8 gb card
Yes, the Fuze supports sdhc. I have the OCN 8 on the 8GB card and use it in my Fuze. The map runs very smoothly just like in the demos if you can get the Fuze GPS working. I could not get a fix with any program. I finally found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457996. I did steps 1 an 2 in post 1. I then deleted the gps log file names as suggested in post 8 steps 5. 1. and 5. 2. I then completed steps 3, 4 and 5 in post 1. Now the GPS work great with OCN8, Memory-Map Navigator and GPS Test. I get a GPS lock in around a minute.
I thought OCN6 was good, but OCN8 has taken street navigation to the next level. There were several things missing in OCN6 like saving a route to name one, that OCN8 has fixed. OCN8 has all the bells and whistles. OCN4 and 5 had Navteq maps and OCN6 and 8 had/have TeleAtlas maps. I have heard the aurguments about which map datbase is better. To tell you the truth, I have seen no difference. I have also installed Memory-Map Navigator on the card. I have a little over 5 GB free.
sweet o guess onc8 it is then
Screen pin lock compatibility?
Of the applications listed, the only one that I am aware of that keeps the phone from locking is Live Search. If your IT org forces a pin lock after a given number of minutes, that can be a real problem when you're using your phone as a GPS device.
Does anyone know of a turn-by-turn program that works properly with pin lock?
Does NOT work:
google maps
at&t navigator
tom tom 6
Cinemo is an application for finding movie showtimes and information for your area(USA and Canada only, as far as I know). You can use either your postal code or GPS to find your location.
v0.9.5
Changes
Code:
Fixed a potential issue with automatic updates.
Allow GPS to determine location.
Screenshots:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I have just released a new version of Cinemo. From now on Cinemo will be hosted here: http://www.danielgary.net/cinemo/
The new version is really just an interim release that enables image caching for the movie posters and allows automatic updates to Cinemo. A message box will pop up to notify you when the new version is being installed.
Direct link to download: http://www.danielgary.net/cinemo/CinemoSetup.cab
P.S. I know the site is ugly. I threw something up there just to host the file for now. I will get something pretty later.
PPS
Mods could you please delete the previous thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497225
When I attempted to install this to my memory card the installation would fail; however, the installation to device memory was successful. Can this only be installed to device memory?
Edit: Maybe for a future update you could query the "total $ gross" for each film on the list? Might be a cool addition.
Works well. One suggestion is to have a list of theaters that are within some range of your zip code. Many people go to neighboring zips to go to their preferred theaters.
I will be keeping an eye on this as it would be more convenient than loading up Fandango every time.
im unable to dowload via my ppc.... it just snow a bunch of code and at ppcgeeks the attatchment isnot valid
I get a "No movie times were found for your area." dialog box regardless of the zipcode I enter.
Running on a Sprint Touch Pro, WM 6.1, stock Sprint ROM.
I get a "No movie times were found for your area." dialog box regardless of the zipcode I enter.
Running on a Sprint Touch Pro, WM 6.1, stock Sprint ROM.
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I would imagine that you do not have a data connection open or available. Can you hit the internet with your phone? Try disconnecting it from the computer if the USB cable is connected.
im unable to dowload via my ppc.... it just snow a bunch of code and at ppcgeeks the attatchment isnot valid
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Direct link: http://www.danielgary.net/cinemo/CinemoSetup.cab
GPS part works great! Nice update!
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I would imagine that you do not have a data connection open or available. Can you hit the internet with your phone? Try disconnecting it from the computer if the USB cable is connected.
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I was able to hit the internet and use other data connection apps fine. I did have it connected to the PC. Disconnected, no change. Cinemo wouldn't work, other apps would.
Did a soft reset, everything works fine. I guess there must have been something that didn't take or load completely until after the soft reset.
Great app, thanks for the work!
Nice App. Since I dont have data plan I guess I will have to check it when I am near a Wifi
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GPS part works great! Nice update!
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+1 for the gps, works like a charm! I use flixter on my ipod touch, and this works just as well for locating movies and since both are very similiar in UI, its really nice to have the familiarity from one device to the other.
Just letting everyone know I have movie synopsis working on my test build. Look for a new update to Cinemo in the next 24-48 hours. It SHOULD automatically update itself when you run it. I will post letting you know when it should be available.
thanks for this app i would love to be able to watch the trailer. maybe you could link it with the youtube app
awesome app, been following it since the first thread. the only thing missing for me would be saving favorite theaters other than that this is perfect. it's helped me out a couple times, thanks!
looks like this is going to be a great app - I am in Canada and i cant seem to enter a Canadian postcode as it caters for zip codes only! I also tried the GPS and it found no cinemas in my area and im downtown Toronto!
Potential feature add: would be great if you could add a feature to be able to enter dvd titles and get it to check the ratings on imdb and metacritic!
Hey thanks for the great app!
Is there a way to add more theaters to the list?
I have to change my area to get different theaters and i much rather just have all the theaters within the area be displayed.
Vancouver, BC, canada working decently!
I agree with some of the others. There needs to be an option for more movie theatres both when viewing the actual movie times and in the theatres tab. Also, itd be nice to check times for other days in advance. Like being able to view the times for Thursday when it is still Monday. Other than that I think it looks really good. Until theres more theatres I am stuck using Live search
every time i change the zipcode the app shuts down with an error. also, sometimes when i open the app it shuts down with an error. tried it on my sprint diamond and touch pro with same results. when it does open without errors it works great though. is there an explanation why there are errors so often? i'd say i've received an error about 40% of the time.
thanks for making this, it's a great idea and very useful. it's much easier and faster than having to open a mobile browser or some other app. keep up the development!
great idea love the concept. would you be able to make this for wqvga devices?
thanks in advance
Nice App but I have been having issues. I am using Energy ROM 3.0. I am not sure if it is because of the 3.7 .Net that he is use or some other reason but I am recieveing a message "failed: \storage card\program files\Cinemo\Cinemo.exe"
I am not sure why I have started to get this. I have more then enough room on my SD card. I have used it in the past and liked the app. Would love to have it on my cell but I am not going to change roms.
So, basically can anyone confirm issues on install? does it have to do with the 3.7 .Net that is being used?
Thanks,
SoBBie
pretty cool app.
i think it would be nice if you could enter your user account information for fandango.com or movietickets.com. that way if you see the movie you want to go see, you can just tap a "buy now" button, and you are good to go. maybe it could pull the confirmation number as well or something.