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Battery problem

Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián

Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.

I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?

It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.

big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.

I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.

Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick

Pooper said:
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.

sorry i was referring to the OP

I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?

Pooper said:
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib

Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil

The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum

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The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!

Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.

darkilici said:
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib

For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki

There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.

austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib

I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!

High Battery Drain - I think I have got it

I think it is the phone in the Kaiser that drains the battery.
NOTE that this is NOT about using the built in funtions too much, please read the conditions of this test.
First of all, I am not a typical Kaiser user - the sim card I am using at the moment doesn't support 3G or any fancy functions - just domestic calls and sms!
I think it has been some weeks where I had this problem, but I am not really sure. But here is what I did to test, read it closely:
Kaiser is started from cold last evening, no apps started, nothing running. It has been charged to 100%, and before going to bed, I disable the only thing I have running - the phone! No bluetooth, wireless, nothing at all. I press the power button briefly to put the phone to sleep, right after pulling the charger plug.
All night, the phone is sitting in flight mode, without charger, and in the morning I wake it up and check the battery. 100% it says. Then I turn the phone on (3G is selected off, I have the modified version of comm manager where 3G is included). I check the battery again, 100%, and then mobile signal strength, there are 4 bars, plenty of signal. Then I briefly press the power button to turn off the display.
Time is 0800, phone is on, display off, and I leave it on the table in the same place where the mobile signal was 4 bars. I remove the battery cover, just to be able to monitor the battery temperature during this test. Room temperature is regulated to 23 deg C, and the phone is not exposed to sunlight.
This is what happened:
Phone on glass table, no bag, battery cover removed, 23 deg constant temp, no sunlight
0800: 100% Phone is turned on via Comm Manager, 3G deactivated
0815: 96% slightly warm battery, can just barely feel the battery is a little warmer around the middle, but it is definately warm from battery.
0930: 83% battery still warm
1007: 78% warm battery
1105: 68% still warm - checking the phone signal, still 4 bars
1312: Green light flashes like every other second, but I cannot turn the phone on. Not even sliding the keyboard open wakes it up. I remove the battery and then put it back in place, and turn on the phone.
1313: The phone has booted, battery is now 16%! That is why it did not want to wake up again ...
I connect the charger, checking SMS and phone list. No calls or messages.
So, from 0800 to 1313, just over 5 hours, the phone went from 100% to 16%, with NO USE AT ALL except the phone in standby. Compare that to being all night in the same state, EXCEPT with the phone off.
If it is not something with the phone itself, it MUST be something related pretty close to it.
Some users only have "normal" battery problems because they use the phone with too many functions. As this is obviously NOT the problem here, spare these comments (your phone is OK then). This s... is serious!
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I urge others who have battery frain problems on the Kaiser to do the same test. Most should be able to do this on - say - a saturday evening (the following day should be one where you don't need your phone too much, and where you don't expect people to call or text you too much).
BATTERY DRAIN TEST:
1. Make sure phone is charged to 100%
2. Reboot and don't start any apps
3. Check no apps running, kill any that started by themselves
4. Turn off everything in comm manager (flight mode, basically)
5. Power off the display, and leave overnight, CHARGER DISCONNECTED.
6. When you get up in the morning, turn it on (should still be in standby with display off)
7. Check battery level and note the time and the phone signal strenght
8. Turn on the phone in the comm manager, nothing else
9. Press the power button briefly to bring turn the screen off
10. Every hour or so, note turn the display on and note the battery level and confirm that the phone signal is still OK
Mine lasted just about 5 hours like this, how long does YOUR Kaiser last???
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Mods, I think this one is important enough for a sticky, please.
Until the problem is resolved, at least.
Thank you

LGB said:
Mods, I think this one is important enough for a sticky, please.
Until the problem is resolved, at least.
Thank you
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LGB,
from your description I do not see why you are pointing at the phone, of all things. Maybe you just installed an application which keeps your phone from getting some rest in standby.
During my tests as shown in the thread "HTC models with GPS? Excessive standby battery drain CONFIRMED - FAQ added" I used two different OS (WM6 and WM6.1). In both cases I did not install anything except for a GPS tool (tried HTC's GPSTool, Chartcross GPSTest and OziExplorer, to exclude potential application specific trouble) which was sufficient to reproduce the problem. I do not know whether you went that far, but I am afraid you have to follow the same procedure. Before doing so you can try to locate an unusual process running in the background, using TaskManager (one which can show you the processes as well). There may be an "Anti social application", as someone else has put it.
If you find out the exact circumstances, I will be happy to add this to the first page of the abovementioned sticky thread. To me this all seems too much related to each other. It is well possible that the HTC has several sensible spots concerning standby current consumption, and of course I would like to see the complete picture. Best result being one common reason... lets try to nail down this sucker.
BusterTyTN

More than often I go to university and leave Kaiser only with the phone function (GSM, no 3G), no apps running, except for HTC Home Plugin and Pocket Contacts. If nothing happens, like receiving/sending SMS or phone calls, after about 7 hours its at 92/94%. And my carrier doesn't have a good signal there.

LGB said:
Mods, I think this one is important enough for a sticky, please.
Until the problem is resolved, at least.
Thank you
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ever thought it might be your radio version?

Just a thought guys, but isn't it better to also state some detailed information like :
- ROM version
- Radio version
- SN of battery (there could be a bad batch of batteries around)
- Name of provider
Here's my details, but I haven't got this problem (I can easily run 1 week with battery with quite a lot of Wifi use) :
- ROM : Dutty 6.1 WWE
- Radio : 1.64.06.04
- SN of battery : DCOX17BM003309
- Name of Provider Orange NL

Why don`t you just try a full backup, format yer phone and do the test again?
Doing such test with alot installed is no point.
For my part: My Kaiser is brand new and I am impressed by the batterylife. None of my kaiser-equipped friends have this problem eighter.
Start your phone from scrach. I`m sure the problem will dissappear.
If not it should be under warranty and you should get a replacement.
No phones gets drained by itself while in standby, and if it does its something wrong with it.

speedme said:
Just a thought guys, but isn't it better to also state some detailed information like :
- ROM version
- Radio version
- SN of battery (there could be a bad batch of batteries around)
- Name of provider
Here's my details, but I haven't got this problem (I can easily run 1 week with battery with quite a lot of Wifi use) :
- ROM : Dutty 6.1 WWE
- Radio : 1.64.06.04
- SN of battery : DCOX17BM003309
- Name of Provider Orange NL
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1 WEEK! hmmmm something smells fishy..............

I have been experiencing a lot more battery drain since using radio version: 1.64.08.21 from 1.27.12.11. But my previous radio version does not work for Sleuth's WM6.1 V3.0. Do you think having a bigger pool size can contribute to power drain also?

LGB said:
I think it is the phone in the Kaiser that drains the battery.
Phone on glass table, no bag, battery cover removed, 23 deg constant temp, no sunlight
0800: 100% Phone is turned on via Comm Manager, 3G deactivated
0815: 96% slightly warm battery, can just barely feel the battery is a little warmer around the middle, but it is definately warm from battery.
0930: 83% battery still warm
1007: 78% warm battery
1105: 68% still warm - checking the phone signal, still 4 bars
1312: Green light flashes like every other second, but I cannot turn the phone on. Not even sliding the keyboard open wakes it up. I remove the battery and then put it back in place, and turn on the phone.
1313: The phone has booted, battery is now 16%! That is why it did not want to wake up again ...
I connect the charger, checking SMS and phone list. No calls or messages.
So, from 0800 to 1313, just over 5 hours, the phone went from 100% to 16%, with NO USE AT ALL except the phone in standby. Compare that to being all night in the same state, EXCEPT with the phone off.
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Install Batterystatus and tell us what mA power drain your getting.
Battery drain of this magnitude could be a short circuit, causing the heat. Get a replacement if under warranty.
rgds
stuart

I have my Tytn II for 2 months now, but I'm still waiting on my service provider switch, and as it is locked I can't use phone function yet.
BUT, even without phone and with normal daily usage (some gaming, some WiFi, calendar, etc.) I have to recharge every other day. Furthermore I'm experiencing massive battery drain even at standby mode (guess it runs out 20% overnight, doing absolutely nothing!). I always check my task manager and clear any running programs.. I run Batti, which is the only program that's always running I can think of..

jym04 said:
More than often I go to university and leave Kaiser only with the phone function (GSM, no 3G), no apps running, except for HTC Home Plugin and Pocket Contacts. If nothing happens, like receiving/sending SMS or phone calls, after about 7 hours its at 92/94%. And my carrier doesn't have a good signal there.
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This is how it USED to be for me ... I don't know when, but at a certain stage, that CHANGED. Now, I can get 5 hours only, like that. When I check TASK MANAGER, all I have running are these two apps:
SMS / MMS
Comm Manager
ROM 1.56.403.4 09/19/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Advanced configuration tool v 1.1 by Schap's:
OS: Microsoft Windows CE 5.2.1620 (Info says build 18125.0.4.2)
.NET Compact Framework: 2.0.7045.0
Glyph cache: 8192
File system cache: Auto
File system filter cache: 0
Phone: Everything is ticked, meaning Show video dialer, SIM contacts, Band page, PIN2 page, Time Zones page, TTY page, ENABLE DTMF support, EDGE Icon, HSDPA icon, Disable SMS sent notification
GPRS/3G disconnect and timer ticked, connection always on is NOT ticked, Disconnect GPRS/3G after 600 seconds (but I haven't used either for a long time now)
Com manager has button 10 as 3G so I can disconnect it
SYSTEM INFO says:
Windows Mobile 6.0 (WinCE 5.02)
Program memory 38% (38.07/101.4MB)
Storage memory 65% (87.65/135.5MB)
Memory card 89% (5.06/5.7GB)
I also have the tweaks2k2 net installed, could I have changed something by mistake?
But WHY is it that when the phone is off, I get normal battery life, with phone ON it goes down fast, even with no use?
I did a new test this morning, this is what I did:
Phone charged 100% in the evening. Flight mode all night with screen off. In the morning it was 99%, and this is what I did:
0648:99% GPS on (GPSTuner, very basic GPS program, just to keep it alive), lowest setting on the display. GPS came on pretty quick, and I kept poking the display now and then to keep it out of standby
0728:66% (GPS and display still on, behind shielded windoes so DOP only between 5 and 25, GPS working to try to hold position!)
0827:29%
0910:10% 3xbeep, battery warning
So, with the display on lowest setting but constantly on and GPS running also, I got 2:22 from 99% to 10%, no other items enabled (no phone, bluetooth, wireless etc)
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my batt
i have had my tilt since late dec? its been dropped lots of times ( yah i know its bad) i have upgraded to the new att fw( just realy havent looked @ new roms)
i did flash a new splash screen i got a good umts signel where i live. if i charge my phone adn then go home and go to sleep with maybe a few apps running when i wake up @ night( i work nights) my phone normally is around 85 to 90% on the batt. my batt sn is 5fga279v007664
r=1.27.14.09
g= 22.45.8807h
d=1.62.00.00
idk about yall i do lots of txtin adn web access adn i normally go to sleep around 12ish pm then wake up around 7 or 8 pm and my phone normally will last 2ish days

Discovered today that even though comm manager said 3g off if I went into connections and opened up hsdpa it was on. Was wondering why my battery was draining so damn fast. Not quite at your speed but quickly.
If I was you I would grab abcpowermeter and also SKTOOLS and use them, they will show drain and the FULL list of procs running and which ones are chewing up the cpu.

hmm lemme try seeing if it lasts abit longer when its on gsm only..im going to have to wait till tue because i work in a call center and the gsm interference irritates the crap outta me and my customers.

ok this post seems to be nothing but n00bs posting which is not a bad thing! thank you for coming out and posting! The radio is a HUGE factor!! probably the biggest one of them all, the new Niki radios seem to be doing the best as far as battery goes these days! Also make sure if your going to be doing battery tests its after a HARD RESET! no apps installed period, I know batti is a big drain on the battery even though its a small app lol.... My kaiser will last about 35 hours with MY use now everyones use is different so there is no perfect judge of battery use, even the battery test apps have a % that it is off by and veryone uses there phone different, But if your only getting 5-6 hours something is wrong or you ARE a heavy user sorry to say! remember the radio is the key to battery use here folks and also the apps you have installed!
ALSO- HSDPA is a battery drain as is UTMS to is you can go EDGE only and you will be ahocked at how much longer it lasts

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austinsnyc said:
ok this post seems to be nothing but n00bs posting which is not a bad thing! thank you for coming out and posting! The radio is a HUGE factor!! probably the biggest one of them all, the new Niki radios seem to be doing the best as far as battery goes these days! Also make sure if your going to be doing battery tests its after a HARD RESET! no apps installed period, I know batti is a big drain on the battery even though its a small app lol.... My kaiser will last about 35 hours with MY use now everyones use is different so there is no perfect judge of battery use, even the battery test apps have a % that it is off by and veryone uses there phone different, But if your only getting 5-6 hours something is wrong or you ARE a heavy user sorry to say! remember the radio is the key to battery use here folks and also the apps you have installed!
ALSO- HSDPA is a battery drain as is UTMS to is you can go EDGE only and you will be ahocked at how much longer it lasts
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It is obviously because of a program or programs installed that drain the Batt.

austinsnyc said:
ok this post seems to be nothing but n00bs posting which is not a bad thing! thank you for coming out and posting! The radio is a HUGE factor!! probably the biggest one of them all, the new Niki radios seem to be doing the best as far as battery goes these days! Also make sure if your going to be doing battery tests its after a HARD RESET! no apps installed period, I know batti is a big drain on the battery even though its a small app lol.... My kaiser will last about 35 hours with MY use now everyones use is different so there is no perfect judge of battery use, even the battery test apps have a % that it is off by and veryone uses there phone different, But if your only getting 5-6 hours something is wrong or you ARE a heavy user sorry to say! remember the radio is the key to battery use here folks and also the apps you have installed!
ALSO- HSDPA is a battery drain as is UTMS to is you can go EDGE only and you will be ahocked at how much longer it lasts
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i know umts/hsdpa do have an major effect on batt life....on my old 8125 it would last 3-4 days and but at that time i did not have the data plan i just had unlimeted txtin....and i would use the phone alot in in the morning and alot after school. i also did use wifi alot b4 and after school but none the less it still would last 3-4 days. when i got the tilt i was dissapointed with the life of my of the tilt and even now it still lasts about 2ish days with the oem batt.

Sorry but my TyTN II does not discharge like that at all.
This has definitely go something to do with rom version, service provider etc etc.
I charge my TyTN II to 100% at around 20h00. By 08h00 the next morning my phone is on 94% with nothing disabled except bluetooth, which I then switch on when I drive off.
There are some apps like Cyberon Voice command and Windows Mobile Voice Command which I have since removed, which do consume enormous amounts of power even on standby.
My TyTN II details:
ROM version: 1.56.421.1
ROM Date: 26th October 2007
Radio Version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version: 22.51.88.13H
Service Provider/Network: Vodacom South Africa

i use edge only, new niki radio, push activated, 60-70mins of voice a day, 50-60 txts a day and i can get to 2.5+ days with 4% left, screen brightness is the 3rd notch from left.

What has the greatest effect on battery life?

Hi all, searched and couldn't find what I was exactly looking for.
when i first got the phone, the battery life was short but since a couple of weeks ago, it's gotten much, much worse. i've had the phone for maybe a month or so.
i'm talking about the battery draining 10% in 30-40 minutes on standby with nothing like bluetooth or wifi on. at least the phone used to hold a charge decently if it was on standby, now it drains like i'm using it even on standby.
what are the greatest factors that affect battery life? when i first got the rom i have now, it wasn't this bad so i don't think it's the rom itself. plus i absolutely hate changing roms (it takes hours to get all my settings back)
some things i thought of:
i could use g-light but i noticed this makes my memory use quite higher and this doesn't do anything for when it's on standby anyway.
how often the accelerometer checks for rotation, right now it was at every 200 millisecond. I've changed it to 750 now, i'll see what effect this has.
same thing for light sensor. right now it's at 500 ms now.
radio. but again it was fine at first with this 1.09.25.23 radio.
anything else?

With my original 900 mAh battery the consumption was about 15% every hour. This was with the data connection always on. Without this on, it would last 2 days at least.
I also loose quite a bit of power when I'm in a bad phone reception area.
But not knowing where the battery consumption is being used up can be very annoying.

Whenever I'm abroad (and thus have all data connections disabled with NODATA) I always get a massive boost to battery life so it could be some process sending/receiving loads of data that you're unaware of? To test that you could install NODATA and kill all the data connections temporarily to see if that helps? Not that that would narrow down what was happening completely but it might help point you in the right direction.

i also suspect it might have something to do with data. what i've noticed is that my emails don't download fully, only the titles download and i think it stays connected while it's 'stuck' trying to download the rest of the messages, i notice this because it says in the menu 'stop send/receive' meaning it's still trying to send/receive. normally, i have it set to check every half hour. but i guess now it's always connected to data... anyone know why it's doing this? (maybe i need to start a new thread as i can't find an answer for this email send/receive problem by searching...)

kill the 3G chip that works for me but be sure the the provider has a GSM network

yup, 3g is turned off. these days the usage is more like 5% used up every hour in standby with email checked every 30 minutes. i guess that's acceptable...

Battery and no signal

Hi all, I just got my HTC Pure over the weekend and I had a question from those with more experiecne.
First I know (or I think) that the battery life will improve over the next week or so as the battery gets used and charged. Today however was an issue. The phone came off the charger this morning at 100% and then went to work. While at work there is absolutely no signal in the building. (never has been) The only time it was on the network was a 1 hour lunch, and then light internet use for approx 25 minutes this evening. That is all, no calls, nothing, and it had 19% battery left in only 12 hours off the charger.
Again, I am sure that it will improve, but the question is ... does being off the network (GSM) drain the battery faster? Does the phone use a lot of charge "searching" for signal?
I am sure that there are a lot of things that I could do to extend battery life, as a work around (no bluetooth, plug it in to the USB on the computer at work, turn off 3g etc) but I was just curious if someone in the know on how the network and battery use go together if the dead zone is the biggest problem.
Thanks

Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous

cmstackar said:
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
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Funny enough it is my wifes first smart phone. I was just looking at it to change some things to better suit her needs. When I opened the task manager I discovered that a) the programs would only minimize when the X button was pushed, not close and b) windows Live messenger was loaded. I would guess that even though she was not signed in on live messenger it could have killed the battery. Gonna make a couple of tweaks to ensure that it does not fire up again, and see what it looks like tomorrow.

So today was better, but she seems to have had intermittent service. Her media net indicates that it was connected all afternoon. She burned through 40% battery in the AM and only 18% in the afternoon.
I would imagine that the location services for the weather on the sense home screen as well as possibly push email running out of control searching for the signal. I will turn things off 1 at a time until I find out what is driving the battery loss.
Is there any software to monitor battery use and what was using the battery? There is in android.

O.k. continue to have issues with this phone.
Tested last night. Charged to 100% and then light use. Approx 10% down after 3 hours.
Set commmanagerpro to turn off the data and phone radio during the hours my wife is at work. She called today and the screen is showing that the phone radio is off, but it has lost 90% in less than 4 hours. She also said it is hot.
Maybe her purse is somehow turning the screen on? Would the screen being on without any radios cause the phone to plow through battery?
I am gonna try a battery monitoring app and see if it will tell me anything. Its freekin weird.

What radio version are you running?
You may want to consider flashing to a different Radio ROM.

try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...

I am using the AT&T stock radio. I flashed to the energy ROM, but the battery issue is so extreme that I doubt that the radio or the ROM are the driving factor.
She does have 3 magnets in her purse. 2 magnetic catches on her side pockets and 1 on her wallet. While I could not reproduce the device turning on by itself from the magnets, that does not mean that it is not.
The other thing is that there was some warning on the screen about the GPS signal. I imagine that is a side effect of turning off the radios, but maybe not. Is the GPS always on normally? Would a GPS pop up cause the screen to stay on for possibly 3 hours.
This afternoons test will be having her leave her phone in her jacket pocket rather than her purse. We will see how it goes.

saunet_ptg said:
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
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I will look at that radio. I doubt its a program since I had no problems with it at home last night. It has to be environmental. My money is on the purse, but we will see. I'll post later and let you know what we came up with.
There was a few days ago where she lost 60% of her battery in the morning but only 12% after lunch, so that convinces me that it should be something that we can identify and work around.

Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.

Bruce Inman said:
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours)
The running program should no be an issue. To prevent that, as a matter of standard setup for my phones, they have a small script that soft resets them every morning a 4am, so that they are fresh and clean for the start of the day.
As for updates, I have adjusted everything that I can, and some did not have any effect (mostly because the radio was off, can't save much more than that).
I do leave the bluetooth on all day. That should not be draining the battery in 3.5 hours though. I have read a lot of the battery life threads and many of the ideas would cripple the phone, and I am not going there. Sure maybe I don't need weather updated every 30 minutes, but I want me email when it comes in, not once every few hours. I also don't want to have to push 20 buttons each time I want to make the internet work. Its this kind of usability that sells iPhones... I hate them, but they really do just work... and my wife wants a phone that you don't need to be an expert to use.

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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours).
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Do you know how to view your radio version? Its listed on the bottom of your phone when you reset, the 3 numbers that display, R is the radio version.
You can go to the radio thread and flash another version, just keep testing different versions until you get one that works well. Radio ROMs will not overwrite your data.
Radio's are definitely location specific in regards to region and carrier.
Borderline coverage is a major battery killer, but you're disabling the radio, which should resolve that issue...
G-Profile is a nice app that allows you to set what type of connection and when.

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Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
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Mine didn't and I used the May 1st update. Still Stock.
If no signal is happening in the building, I would think it's the various things continuously trying to run, like Email, GPS etc. Constant failed attempts to update your phone's apps would definitely drag the battery down in a hurry. I have my email set to 3 hrs. updates along with weather updates. Nothing I do is so important at this point in my life that faster than 3 hr. responses are required. I also don't use things like Tweeter and FaceBook so those aren't constantly eating my battery. I get about 1.5 to 2.0 days from my battery currently.

Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.

boufa said:
Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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So today we left it out of the purse. Here is what we got...
On the table next to the computer, so confirmed that the screen is NOT activating at all. Phone radio off, data off.
AM... used 40% in 4 hours.
Better, but still not good. Gonna try to ensure that the email is set for longer, currently it is set for 10 minutes, and then try to turn off a-gps and the regular gps and make sure that those things are not killing the battery. Then flash a new radio. We'll see how that works next week.
First, test it and watch it over normal, with signal, average 4 hours at home this weekend. I think it will do great... meaning that it is the purse, or the environment that is causing the problem.

I don't know if anyone is following my personal drama, but maybe it will come up in a search some day and help someone.
Here is the saturday update.
Took the phone off charge at 2am and looked at it at 11 am this morning. Used only 2% in those 9 hours. So it is definitely NOT a defective device, or battery. (it actually charges up in only a couple of hours)
So looking into the profile schedule manager that I installed, turns out it has not been running. So the whole purse/no purse thing may be horse hockey still. Monday I will be setting it manually to airplane mode to verify that it holds a charge, then finding a new program to do the scheduling. (looking into phonealarm)
If the radio was on, at full power searching for a signal, it would only last approx 4 - 5 hours at best. So it makes sense that this is what is happening.

HTC Desire Battery Fix

Has anyone tried the HTC Desire battery fix and confirms it works on the SGS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Some people have implied it works but I'd like to know what you think?

Yesterday i was make all from this HTC Desire thread give, except wipe battery stats because i not found this thing in clockwork recovery menu, and i can say , it work for our device too. My Galaxy S battery last pretty better-smoother:
After all, i powered on my device in midnight 00:00, morning about 8:00 was battery 100% too. Standby without APN connection, recieved one SMS only.About 10:30 was 99% have one short about minute,recieved call. On 12:00 make APN conection (2G) and about 20 min was on the internet, some news page, company pages, etc., and battery dropped to 97%, about 14:00 some calls 3-4 min, dropped to 95%. On 15:00 was on the APN about half hour,battery go on 93%. To now on 19:00 hour battery is on 92%...I think this is great thing, beause before my galaxy was from 100% to empty about one and half day....
Next thing i use only when i need it, usualy stay:
1.WiFi off
2.APN only when need Internet(2G), rest is off
3.Bluetooth off
4. Animation off (in Settings)
5.Autorotate off
6.GPS off
7.Network location off
8.Autosync off
Best regards
PS (Sorry if my english is bad)

Just given this a try...will report back in a few days.

I tried it... i didnt notice a SIGNIFICANT change... although i did switch from ryan's lagfix to the voodoo one... so that maybe have had an effect. Overall it feels like the battery life is about the same...

Also no change for me, after 8 hours of use with wifi or 3g on whole time, dropped 35%.

I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
Best regards

Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?

Nope....
I just tried it this morning. I still have the same battery consumption per hour with the same amount of using the phone. So I guess it's not working for me.

ibizaGTi said:
Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
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miro666 said:
I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
Best regards
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.

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have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.

911rsr said:
have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
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Yeah, and power saving mode on the display is annoying anyways.
This method seems like voodoo (not the lagfix voodoo), but many people on many devices seem to swear by it.
If you're not happy with battery life, get spare parts off the market and look into what's eating up the battery life. Check your data-sucking widgets, wifi sleep policy, screen brightness settings, etc. Get rid of those apps that are mis-behaving and turn down the frequency on widget data.
Wiping batterystats.bin file after a full charge usually helps if you haven't tried that.
Also, if this is your first smartphone with a big bright display and a fast cpu, get used to the fact that the battery isn't going to last as long as your Razr did, not anywhere near as long.
Get a spare battery (the SGS battery is so thin it fits in my wallet without even noticing it's there, get a spare desk charger for your office and keep a charger in the car. Dock/charge the thing when you have the chance to keep the % up while you're away from the charger, and stop worrying over this.
With virtually every new "ROM" I follow on this device and the Nexus One, the first and biggest complaint is usually "battery life sucks" in the early release stage; then the complaints start disappearing as the battery stats get a chance to settle down.

Yes, I did tried that 'HTC Desire' Method.
On my previous firmware JM5,
80% 18hrs
74% 1 Day 1 hrs 47min
And lasted until the 3rd day before I had to plug in the charger. All this with Wifi off and idling most of the time.
For JPC,
The battery level was awful until I applied the wifi fix for JPc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507&page=5
Currently, my galaxy s is on 28% approaching 3 days (72 hours). So i guess in my case the battery level did improved. All this with playing games, wifi on (off when the screen is off) and movies. So the usage definitely increased, yet the battery still stands strong
Oh and another thing, the brightness level on JM5 was 30 (android lowest). I discovered Dimmer after that, which promptly reduced the brightess to 10 for JPC. That might explain the better battery part a bit

erm why does disabling power saving mode increase the battery life? i thought it supposes to save the power instead? My brightness is already set to the lowest means i dont need to enable power saving mode? wads the difference of enabling and dis-enabling.

Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?

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Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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During this mode, the screen's brightness will adjust to the color/intensity of the image projected on your screen. If the image is bright, the brightness will go down in order to safe battery life.
If the image is dark (like most of the SGS's UI) it will increase the brightness because dark colors don't drain as much of the battery.
This sounds pretty confusing, but when you think about it, it makes sense.
I disabled this mode, because i think i conflicts with the automatic brightness setting =D
QuickSettings did the trick for me, if i'm in a dark area i disable automatic brightness and go for the lowest setting (Still brighter than an Acer Liquid or HTC Desire if you ask me ! AMOLED IS GREAT !)

So basically it means that by disabling the power saving mode save the power more instead? As it does nt increase the brightness nor decrease automatically?
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I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!

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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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A you sure is not in backgrond AutoSync, or GPS, or Network location is off. And very important make exatly procedure step by step from Desire thread...Im now after 38 hours (day and half) on 70% with my usual using (about hour 2G internet, 30 minute call, 4-5 SMS, and 10 min GPS with network location. BUT ALL MAKE OFF AFTER USING, when go on Standby)....Impresive realy?
I thinking make same procedure with my old HTC Touch Diamond 2...
Best regards

dan 6a said:
I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Charge with phone off while you sleep shouldn't be too hard, unless you need the phone for incoming calls or alarms.
I don't believe batterystats.bin can be shared amongst phones, it's really just a log of your own phone's battery performance, if I understand it correctly.
Three batteries (like you and I have) will almost certainly confuse the battterystats file, unless all three batteries have exactly the same performance characteristics.
300 hours in standby...? Well, those kind of stats are always under "optimal" conditions. Optimal for any smartphone would be to have the phone in 2G only, wifi off, BT off, syncing off, all widgets off, location off, etc, etc, etc; basically just your phone in cell standby and not being used for anything else. My Nexus One, which gets little to no use now, used to last no more than 18 hours as my everyday phone, now with Froyo on it, a few weather widgets, wifi on, location on, etc, etc, it will last several days off the charger. I think we all just use our phones a LOT more than we realize, and that the display chews up more battery than we think.
Looking forward to what new firmware Sammy gives your friend.

This really helped me and I'm dead serious, after flashing a lot of roms and somtimes charging to only 50-70 percent and then disconnecting it seemed that my battery drained way to fast! I followed this:
1: Charge phone whilst on till LED is green.
2: Disconnect phone from charger, power it off.
3: Reconnect to charger with phone powered off and allow to charge till LED is green.
4: Disconnect the phone from charger, power it on. Once completely powered on, turn it off again and reconnect to charger until LED is green.
5: Reboot into recovery with clockworkmod and wipe battery stats.
And now after 5 hours with about 20 sms send/received I still have 93% battery, normally it was like 83 or lower by then, so I'm very happy! thanks for posting