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Here she is folks..... Keep in mind this is *BETA*.. there are still some things that i have to clean up... So go ahead and give it a whirl... This has only been tested on the 8125 G3 unlocked phones, i dont know if it will work on anything else outside of that!!!! So install at your own risk... Dr Puttingham seems to love it, and i think its pretty good. Dr Puttingham is also working on the stripped down version..
Major thanks goes to Molski for providing the core rom and his tweaks, and Dr Puttingham for his input and advice! And everyone else who made cabs for various things found on this board!
So install and give me your comments and suggestions.. and i will better prepare the final version :wink:
oh yeah, you need the link
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Other_Unknown/Shogun_A_La_Carte_Cingular_WWE_2.exe
And for the N00bs.. d/l the exe, choose to unpack it to its own folder, then run ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID
**UPDATE**
Myself and faria have been working very hard on a future release.. it is currently in a private beta testing phase.. Anyone that is interesting in checking its current status feel free to check our blog
http://betarom.hypersites.com
Just so's everyone knows ... the install appears to "stall" or "hang" at 94, 98 and 100% so don't be alarmed! DO NOT DISCONNECT YOUR DEVICE NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES! Sorry to shout but I'm expecting somebody to think that their computer's locked up and "brick" their phone! (And one really shouldn't be running any apps like Outlook or such while upgrading...)
Look around in the Programs group for folders called WIFI, Tools and 800Message.
Wow, that's great to get a new rom - Awesome! But sorry, not to sound ignorant... can you please explain what the G3 unlock is. I'm running a 64k SIM in my phone, not 3G.
Is the 8125 capable of running at 3G speeds, or are earlier models limited? Is this a hardware or software limitation... I would like to get my card swapped out with Cingular if possible. Thanks for your help.
--JAS
when i mention G3 and G4 its the difference in chips in the wizard, if you boot your phone and get .001 at the end of the ipl and spl numbers then you have a G4 and i dont recommend using my new rom, although i might be able to make an identical rom for the G4 (i just dont have a phone with G4 to test it) And the wizard does not do UMTS only Edge, so no its not capable of 3G speeds... wait till cingular offers the 8525 and you can get 3g
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he is talking about the 3rd Generation 8125 not the 3rd Generation wireless protocol.. Anyone try this ROM yet.. I'm still on Summiter's 2.17 and am not in a situation where I can experiment with my device no matter how much I want to..
Shogunmark, what advantages does this ROM offer up over my 2.17?
Dr Puttingham said:
Just so's everyone knows ... the install appears to "stall" or "hang" at 94, 98 and 100% so don't be alarmed! DO NOT DISCONNECT YOUR DEVICE NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES! Sorry to shout but I'm expecting somebody to think that their computer's locked up and "brick" their phone! (And one really shouldn't be running any apps like Outlook or such while upgrading...)
Look around in the Programs group for folders called WIFI, Tools and 800Message.
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Thanks for mentioning the hang... i knew i forgot to mention something.. it was 2am when i finally posted it all
Few Suggestions and Comments
1. I was able to install this rom on a non G3 or G4 chipset and it works beutifully.
2. I would not include Pocket Controller since many people, including myself, don't have that software and thus its useless to me at least.
3. I don't know what program you installed to fully close applications but its a little annoying and puts a red dot in the X. I would recommend instead Smartsky.
4. Nice job including Omap and Omap plus. Very very nice.
5. Amazing job and keep up the good work.
Running it now. All I can say is IMPRESSIVE. This is the best custom rom for the 8125 yet. Thanks!
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Yagi said:
1. I was able to install this rom on a non G3 or G4 chipset and it works beutifully.
2. I would not include Pocket Controller since many people, including myself, don't have that software and thus its useless to me at least.
3. I don't know what program you installed to fully close applications but its a little annoying and puts a red dot in the X. I would recommend instead Smartsky.
4. Nice job including Omap and Omap plus. Very very nice.
5. Amazing job and keep up the good work.
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oh yeah, pocket controller will be left out of the final.. i forgot that it was in the beta.. i just got tired of having to re-install it when i was trying out different cabs and such..
i havent used wclose before, which is the program that fully closes the program.. it is kinda growing on me though
anyway, thanks for your input, i will keep a list of all suggestions for the final. The input is greatly appreciated!
How is this new ROM with dropping calls? I'm using summiter's most recent ROM. The reception is great, but I drop calls like Jenna Jamesson drops panties.
DeathBySnuggles said:
How is this new ROM with dropping calls? I'm using summiter's most recent ROM. The reception is great, but I drop calls like Jenna Jamesson drops panties.
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i havent fully tested that aspect.. I mean who makes calls with a phone anyway :shock: ... but this is built of the molski 2.26 rom with the good 2.25.11 radio which i ran prior to this and cant think of where i ever dropped a call with it
Cool. My dropped calls might be the fault of weather panel and flexmail2007. but i've gotten extremely irritated with my dropped calls. I'll give your ROM a shot once you release the final.
Oh and I second the "no need for the app closer software" movement as i'm a wisbar guy anyway.
cant wait for the final of this.... keep up the good work
A little of topic but anyone know when the 8525 will be available in the states.. Is there any link with info on this device.
On your pervious thread you mentioned that you would look into a stripped down version of this. I would like to try it but really dont want all the add ons. Are they removable via the remove programs thing in the settings? Also could you put together a complete list of all the features of this rom...or somewhere that list all the features?
Thanks for all the work!
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Cool. My dropped calls might be the fault of weather panel and flexmail2007. but i've gotten extremely irritated with my dropped calls. I'll give your ROM a shot once you release the final.
Oh and I second the "no need for the app closer software" movement as i'm a wisbar guy anyway.
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im an Xbar kinda guy, not free, but used it alot when i use to run smartphones, its a cool little program. But i did like how appcloser will actually close the program from just clicking the x instead of just minimizing.. but at any rate, this rom is for everyone and will be built accordingly to whats popular by use, so if the general population dont want it then i will exclude, or maybe make a cab so it will be easy to install/uninstall.. who knows, just keep up the suggestions!
guyver2077 said:
cant wait for the final of this.... keep up the good work
A little of topic but anyone know when the 8525 will be available in the states.. Is there any link with info on this device.
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there is a thread somewhere for this.. according to it the 8525 was suppose to be released this week, but got pushed back due to a bug..
thankins said:
On your pervious thread you mentioned that you would look into a stripped down version of this. I would like to try it but really dont want all the add ons. Are they removable via the remove programs thing in the settings? Also could you put together a complete list of all the features of this rom...or somewhere that list all the features?
Thanks for all the work!
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Dr. puttingham has decided to work on the stripped down version so i can focus on this one.. right now only some of the features are removable from remove programs.. in an effort limit the massive amount of cabs it took to install this i had combined some..
i will compile a full list later today, right now i gotta hit the shower and get to work..
here is the list of what i included:
zoA2DP.cab
ammar_Wireless_Today_Plugin.cab
PPCContactsMgr.cab
BT_COM_PORT (did not install)
TRE.arm.cab
total-comander.cab
WiFiFoFum2.cab
Omapclock_and_Omapclockplusv0.0.4.cab
Wireless.Scanner-Hitchhiker0.4b1.cab
SearchToday.ARM.cab
vxutil.cab
TodayAgenda_PPC.ARMV4.cab
Molski.Biz_Performance_Registry_Tweaks.cab
rar.ppc_arm.cab
Molski.Biz_Customizing_Tweaks.cab
VNC_pocket_viewer.cab (did not install)
Molski.Biz_Stevens_Customization.cab
SP_ARM_504P.cab ~ soti pocket controller
VoiceDial_Button_Customizer.cab
NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab
SPWM5CallRec.cab
PPC2003PMVault.cab
fp7_ppc_en (flash) (did not install)
there is a couple that either did not install or didnt install correctly.. will be a quick fix.. and there will be a MAJOR change coming to this...
Mark, what tools are you using to make your ROM's? I've been trying to use mamaich's (think I got the name right), and although I can extract everything fine, I can't seem to turn it back into the binary file..
Looking to see if you might have any ideas.. I've searched the forums more times than I can count..
Thanks!
Well... nothing personal but I'm staying on with shogunmark's Cingular experiment. Lot's to do here but it's geared more for me. (gee I wonder why!)
OK, let it all hang out!
wclose should be left out of startup (my add in, kinda like it - install by user
smartskey - fantastic - install by user
omap - again fantastic -install by user, perhaps with smartskey
CF2 in ROM - get to it Mark!
I'm with the leaner, meaner ROM myself. This one faster, even with omap left out. molski's tweaks and my additions I think help.
And I like the idea of a Cingular ROM as ... that's my ROM...
Lot's of hard work being done here... respect to all!
Cheers!
Here is as requested, a base rom.
Im giving you here, something I didnt actually want to do. My kaiser build for wing, but no apps but comm manager and touchdialer (I left those because the default has been stripped out)
The stuff removed:
All custom apps
Games
Transcriber
office
internetsharing
my5 fav
win live
live update
alot of ringtones and unusefull sounds
alot of gif files
cant remember the rest right now
This roms is ment for cooking your own rom, not for release of "your rom" after building it like you want. But I cant control that, but do so, and you will never again see work from me on xda.
I left in the rom the .rgu files, so recooking wont be a problem.
If you need apps to include, find them. I will not provide that for you.
Oem packages is all over this place.
So, follow my tutorial to extract it and make your oem, sys and rom folder.
Add the stuff you want and build it as you want for your own device.
I have not had the time, nor do I have the time to flash this to my own to test it, but I see no reson why it should not. But before you come yelling about it not working after you followed the tutorials and w/e, test it by flashing it to your device before you try to cook it.
I removed aprox 16 mb of stuff, but Im not sure what this will show up as after flashing since I dint have time to test it myself.
btw
pagepool is left to default
The os.nb is packed with winrar, so unrar/unzip it.
happy cooking/flashing
cheers
Download:
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(The reason im releasing this is because I have other projects I wanna do, my own device has been neglected to long, and I need to give p4350 users a better build too.)
and yeah, im sure many are waiting for the next part of the tutorial, I hope to finish it before next weekend, my schedule is pretty tight right now.
Maybe I will give a go for ppl to release their rom from this, but not yet for awhile.
Please try to build your own if you wanna release something
good luck experimenting on this
cheers
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
awesome dude i'll be sure to try this out and report my (hopefully!) favorable results!
papamopps said:
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
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aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
Question...
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
ivanmmj said:
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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Thats why this rom has been released, so that ppl can use it as base in hypercore.
Im not gonna build a kitchen, to hypercore is far the best I know of (kudos to anichillus) And oem packages are placed all over xda forums, search in kitchen threads for the other devices, most apps work for herald.
I dont need no agreement, I was hoping that what I said would be enough
cheerz
I was porting over a new kitchen for people who just wanted point and click, but instead, I might just make a thread as a repository of all the different packages that they can use with your ROM... I don't know. I guess it depends on how much time I have to work on it. The Kitchen Port seems simpler since I have it set ready for the most part...
thanks but i hope the repairing will cost less than your p4350
btw - it was an brand new device since they changed it after i disclaimed the loose slider. it was only 2 month old.....
we´ll see what happens...
itje said:
aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
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I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
duprade said:
I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
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And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
papamopps said:
And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
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I guess it's unanimous, Kasiers for everyone, LOL. It will be a Christmas gift to myself, lol. Maybe I can sell my p4350 and Ipaq 6828 for accessories, lol.
your a bunch of copycats
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I'm actually planning on upgrading from my P4350 by Christmas anyway, lol. It's time for an upgrade anyway, I had this device for a year now and served me well. I'm either going to get a HTC Kaiser 120 or E-ten Glofiish M800; and a 6mb memory card or course, lol. I'm leaning towards the HTC Kaiser 120 because of the, video calling capabilities, 128MB of onboard RAM and the 3meg pixel camera. I just hope that these devices are not obsolete by then LOL.
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Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
ivanmmj said:
Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
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All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
itje said:
All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
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Cool [about the touchflo] What I mean, though, is that when I flash the base ROM with NO changes, the part where you setup the touchscreen is NOT working for me. I tried it three times. hmm...I wonder if it's a wing vs herald thing?
EDIT: ohhh, I see what you're saying now. lol sorry
touch.dll isn't in the official dump. That doesn't make sense... it HAS to be there somewhere... I'll try to redump it.
lol. I figured it out!!
Ok guys, as I promised im releasing my final rom
EDIT: I added a RUU_signed.nbh as seperate download, its the full cube version, but beware, its only for those who have updatet their device
with hard-spl, for more info, scroll down to bottom of this post.
But please read
Dont do this:
Questions on why stuff has been removed, and why I didnt do this or that.
Questions related to ppl using WING, TERRA and other Herald devices then P4350.
Questions on other languages, there will be no other languages released
Remarks about disliking stuff in the rom, and w/e..I dont care what you like or not.
Remarks on that previous roms are worse/better then this one
Remarks on that some ppls recooked versions of my roms are better.
Stick to posting about what is in the rom, not what is left out.
Dont ask how to flash this, its in the Touch-IT folder as a read me.
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Ok this is final version of WWE Herald P4350 based on kaiser OS build 18125.0.4.2
No screens, there is no big diffrence in apperance.
You get 3 versions
Full with Touchflo and the cube
Full 2 with Touchflo and no cube
Lite with TouchFlo and no cube etc
This is whats in them:
Full:
Touchflo w/cube
TF-Settings
Touchflo settings 1.22
HTC Home 2.0.814.722
Comm Manager 6 tabs
RomSettings
ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1
Battery Status 218
Glossy Black Bars
Hibernate
HTC Network Wizard
HTC X Button 1.5
HTC Album
HTC TouchDialer
Magic SS
PIM Backup 2.5
SMS Backup
Total Commander 2
Touch-IT skin to WMP
Adobe Flash Lite
Full 2:
Same as Full, but without:
TF-settings
Touchsettings 1.22
Cube
Lite:
Touchflo, no cube
Comm Manager 6 tabs
ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1
HTC X Button 1.5
HTC TouchDialer
Removed from all roms:
Transcriber
Live messenger
Unusefull gifs, but some are still in
Ringtones
Default themes
jpgs
pngs
htc regedits
Tweaks
Disable sms sent
Today items removed (Not calendar)
Sliding sound off
Backlight set to 25 on keyboard
Hide SIM contacts to avoid duplicates
Security set to OFF
And other tweaks, but thats Touch-IT secrets
NOTE:
I dont have the p4350 anymore, so I could not test the roms with touchflo and no cube.
But they should work
Instructions how to upgrade is in the Touch-IT folder.
READ IT.
If you dont, you will spend even more time infront of your computer flashing the official ruu before trying again, why waste time, use 1 min to read and understand.
Remember:
If you dont like what I have added, or what I have removed or w/e please dont spam this thread with lame comments.
Disclaimer:
I take NO responsebility if you brick your device, if you do search the forums before you come flaming me/us here at XDA.
IF you brick your phone (Brick=the phone can be used as a building brick, or maybe a paperweight? Because you cant start it up.) Its no others fault but your own.
Mainly the reason for bricking a phone is:
1. Not reading the instructions good enough
2. Not following the instructions.
3. Not having a RUU that can unbrick the phone (the official installer with the official rom for your specific phone, with your phones default language. In.ex if yu have a german phone by default, you need a german RUU, if not you will get invalid vendor error)
4. Not reading the instructions good enough..again
5. Not following the instructions...again
If you dont understand after reading CAREFULLY, then dont bother flash your device with this or any other rom.
Download:
Sendspace
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DOWNLOAD RUU_SIGNED.NBH - ONLY FOR PPL WHO HAS UPDATED THEIR DEVICE WITH HARD-SPL, FOUND HERE
DO NOT SPLIT UP AND POST THIS PACKAGE IN SEPERATE FILES.
Wow, dude. Awesome. And just in time for me buying my P4350 monday (or tuesday possibly). Not having tried flashing before (but already having read the instructions several times, even though I haven't actually got a phone to do anything on), I don't know the quality of your roms - yet I presume from what I have read that they are quite good indeed.
So thanks for your work on the roms, even though the P4350 isn't exactly new.
Just out of curiosity, is it WM5 or WM6 it's built upon? I can't seem to locate that fact anywhere in your post, but I might have overlooked it for some mysterious reason.
EDIT: It seems I was a bit too quick to post the latter about me not finding the information. I googled a bit and it seems that Kaiser OS of that build mentioned above is indeed WM6. So I guess I answered my question myself
EDIT 2: First (or well, second), I guess?
glad to hear that you're still doing work for us. I can't wait to put this on my phone.
thanks mucho.
debdrup said:
Just out of curiosity, is it WM5 or WM6 it's built upon?
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ITJE said:
...OS build 18125.0.4.2
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from that, i'd gather that it's WM6. Same as Toutch-IT 2.3
At last!
I am so excited while dowloading the files.
This is the best way for saying bye!
Itje, we will certainly miss you.
Regards,
when the german translation will come?
mxstyles said:
when the german translation will come?
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never, there is a german version based on the official. There will be no other versions of german or other languages on this build
itje said:
never, there is a german version based on the official. There will be no other versions of german or other languages on this build
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well, i have flashed the german version, but i can't use the cube in this build.
can you say me how to use it?
mxstyles said:
well, i have flashed the german version, but i can't use the cube in this build.
can you say me how to use it?
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No
Stick to posting about this rom.
Dont reply to this, and dont post other stuff then about this rom.
thx
Hm, maybe this should be stickied. Easier to find it, as it seems to be the final version ever to be released.
I am however curious, itje. What if bugs pop up, will you be fixing those? Depending on their size and reach of the bug, of course.
hello itje,if i found a language pack french,with these release,work??
maxpaynemafia said:
hello itje,if i found a language pack french,with these release,work??
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Well, it might work. If you find a language pack that works on wm6 then it might. Why don't you try it out? Just make a backup, flash, see if it works, flash back to your current rom and restore your backup. I'm sure it can't be that hard.
UAHUUUUU
I love the "READ ME-How To Upgrade" file
I love the new (light coloured) splashcreen and theme
I love everything man!
It is dumb saying so since it is the last version but this is the best release!
Installation went smooth! I really hope that this time everybody reads carefully the readme file since the package has the select OS feature.
Itje, come back to the herald whenever you want. I read somewhere that kaiser was way worse than Herald... I would think it twice
Great rom itje... I've founda little bug that becomes annoying when using CommManager: when I try to slect Settings -> Wireless lan nothing happens :?
BRSG said:
Great rom itje... I've founda little bug that becomes annoying when using CommManager: when I try to slect Settings -> Wireless lan nothing happens :?
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I dont know what cause that, I used this rom before I sold my herald. And I used wireless lan settings with it.
Weather problem fixed
tesorero said:
I love the "READ ME-How To Upgrade" file
I love the new (light coloured) splashcreen and theme
I love everything man!
It is dumb saying so since it is the last version but this is the best release!
Installation went smooth! I really hope that this time everybody reads carefully the readme file since the package has the select OS feature.
Itje, come back to the herald whenever you want. I read somewhere that kaiser was way worse than Herald... I would think it twice
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Kaiser way worse? Never heard sutch bull****
My tytn2 is the best device/phone I ever held in my hands.
So does this rom have the keyboard and stuff working correctly? I think it was a problem in the past, if I remember right. Just curious because I just had to hard reset my phone because it's being stupid, so if this rom is (close to) bug free, I will probably flash to this instead.
mikeybags said:
So does this rom have the keyboard and stuff working correctly? I think it was a problem in the past, if I remember right. Just curious because I just had to hard reset my phone because it's being stupid, so if this rom is (close to) bug free, I will probably flash to this instead.
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If you have a P4350, and its default language is english. There is no issue
What messed up with soft keyboard was the softkeyboard from touch dual, and I didnt include it in this release.
If you want it, get the cab. The same applies to other programs that ppl wants that is not in this release.
itje said:
If you have a P4350, and its default language is english. There is no issue
What messed up with soft keyboard was the softkeyboard from touch dual, and I didnt include it in this release.
If you want it, get the cab. The same applies to other programs that ppl wants that is not in this release.
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To be honest I don't really know what touch dual is, so I'm sure I could do without it. I've been running the regular t-mobile rom with just the page pool change and a few programs (htc home, etc), and suddenly started getting this problem where my send button didn't work right and my phone would make some weird noises. I just did a hard reset and it seems to have fixed that, so while I'm at it I might as well add a nice new rom.
I know you've been working on roms for quite a while here, and I was holding off because of not wanting to re-do everything, but now since I had to start fresh, I might as well add something like this.
Thanks for all of the hard work you put into this stuff. I'm definitely going to give it a try.
mikeybags said:
To be honest I don't really know what touch dual is, so I'm sure I could do without it. I've been running the regular t-mobile rom with just the page pool change and a few programs (htc home, etc), and suddenly started getting this problem where my send button didn't work right and my phone would make some weird noises. I just did a hard reset and it seems to have fixed that, so while I'm at it I might as well add a nice new rom.
I know you've been working on roms for quite a while here, and I was holding off because of not wanting to re-do everything, but now since I had to start fresh, I might as well add something like this.
Thanks for all of the hard work you put into this stuff. I'm definitely going to give it a try.
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so when you got the t-mobile version, I assume you got the wing?
Normally new ROM in this forum are as clean as possible. THIS isn't !!!
This one is really dirty. It is ALL IN there:
User customisation,
Screen Rotation Fix,
German keyboard,
Speekerphone, (freehand phoning with a single fingertip gesture)
NET 3.5,
Opera Mini 4.2 German as Default Browser,
Screen Capture and Audio Recorder,
Phone Logging with Screen Lock Function,
HTC Home,
FTouchFlo,
SCLPC++ Cube,
Navigation,
Antitheft Software with GPS Detektion,
WLAN and WIFI, Wardriving and GPS Software.
Lots of useful freeware-apps,
and a lot of pre-installed programs and hidden features more!
The really best is a software, which is officially not released for Windows Mobile! Designed to run on at least 32MB, it is working fine on 17MB of free ram-memory!
So, please: Do NOT use this thread to ask for help on this proggis, better PM me.
Enjoy - don't talk!
Always try the ROM together with the UC. Without it, it doesn't rock, as it should!
To install:
Copy the folder Speicherkarte to a clean SD-card. (At least 1GB) and insert it into the device.
Uprade as normal, after that Hard-Reset.
Important: The RAMdisk is erased!
UC stops only one time and you have to press OK.
(No need to tap OK on the mortscript-popups)
At the end of the installation, you should set the time/date and lock the keys (if you want).
At last you can config the antitheft-soft.
Good news to all the ROM-cookers of you:
Add 2 files to the ROM and the antitheft-soft is hard reset resistend!
To all others, there is a little workaround to simulate hard reset resistens with the help of UC. (As long as the SD card is inserted on hard reset.)
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Now playing: Meat Loaf - Forever Young
via FoxyTunes
Thanks to ather, dkamin, (for the Base-ROM)
and Teijak (for his WM6 ROM I used till today)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mzmjnmmm2xg Part1
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tzy2mxlvzjy Part2
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mnjmezwzhdm Part3
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fmldhmk5jlh Part4
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ymtezrtlim3 Part5
http://www.mediafire.com/file/x3tdmjuyjmj Part6
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zaduz2zeznm Part7
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kg45odddr14 Part8
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xonmumuhkmy Removed files for the cooks of you.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zgyj2my2yoo Bonus for you all.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ctigkqc2ihm This is the final addition
The attached Patch fixes a bug in the System folder! (see post 14)
Remember: It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.(Scooter)
Thinking - helps. So: Use your brainpower, or the search button!
wow so you finally did it xD, nice work and i see you integrated the anti-theft app to
Nice work
Thanks Ather, you are right. It took me hundreds of flashes since my first recook on 7.Sept.08 to get this final version.
BTW do you know/use this Emulator to test ROM?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-12E3-4B2F-A394-356E2C2FB114&displaylang=en
How does it work?
nope not possible to flash ROMs onto it
ather90 Nice work
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ather90 Nice work
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I´m sorry. This Mod is my fault!
Have fun. 75 downloads in less than 36 h, not bad.
Can you please give me some feedback. It was a hard job, beside my family.
There are no probs? Nowhere? I can't believe it! Feel free to ask, why I did, what I did.
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Can you please give me some feedback. It was a hard job, beside my family.
There are no probs? Nowhere? I can't believe it! Feel free to ask, why I did, what I did.
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Did noone find that is not possible to create new SMS?!?
Sorry, I think I cleaned the ROM a little bit to much.
I´m working on it. The reason I didn´t see it earlier is, that I didn't insert a SIM and I didn't try it 'till now.
PLEASE report bugs you find! It makes me angry, if my first released ROM is not as perfect as it could be.
Ok greate work
This Rom - have package
Hi muckelmaus,
thx for your work.
There are some newer program-versions "on the markt" as the ones you used,
e. g. Total Commander or Version 6 of the Navi-Software.
I have a problem with your Navi-Installation:
First I used the older Navi-SW at your ROM, no problem.
Second I am trying to use the newer one, but it gives me an error with the map which seems to be pre-installed in the configuration. I cannot switch in the newer SW to the other card on the SD nor I can end the Navi-SW on normal way.
Can it be that the 2 versions of the Navi-SW uses the same INI-File or registry-entry anywhere?
Please edit your post!
Can you please do not use original Software-names in this thread. I don't like judges, software companies can google, too.
For the map, you have to edit a file. Sorry, I forgot to share these files, that explain how.
They are coming soon, but I want to fix the SMS bug first.
Btw: There is a version of that program running on WM 2k3 devices, too. This version can handle 6.75 maps!
Of cause, there might be newer versions of special apps, but do they are so much better more powerful or do the have special features, that it is worth to change a working system. On the other hand, most of them are bigger and they won't fit. ROM is rare on Hima-systems. (Current G-maps is twice as big as the older)
The best example is the missing SMS capability, which is a result of cleaning to drastic.
Still working on bug fix! Comming asap!
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Thanxs, for editing your post, Did you check your PM?
You didn't download the link yet.
Still working on the SMS bug fix. The fault was created between Sept. 13 'til 26 last year, as far as I examined. Now I have to compare, what I did in between version 6.1.9 and 6.1.10. Found the missing files and 2 registry data, but there is still missing a little bit.
Now it works!
Yes, it's true. The bug on creating SMS is fixed!
So I release it now as Final Version. Look at the first post of this thread.
There is still a little bug, but it is not a special fault of my ROM, it's known as a bug, based in changing the language (to German).
The device freezes on calibrating the touchscreen.
Maybe some one can write a small app, .cab or a mort script to change the reg key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"CalibrationData"="504,517 152,249 146,786 865,789 862,259"
(Would be cool because one of my himas has a little bit funny behaviour.
Try this and you will see:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"CalibrationData"="584,499 291,239 291,763 880,757 881,241 ")
I hope, you all will have fun.
On questions or problems, please PM: "I will do my very best Ms. Sophy" "Scoll"
Cool, there was one complete download, while writing this post.
Please post your opinion or bug detections.
It is quite easy to get rid of unused proggis on the ramdisk or to save some more space in main memory.
If you are not sure how or you want to insert your own cabs, but don't know to edit cabs, it would be nice to hear from you.
Last Final Link
Look at the first post, if you want to use the left-right gesture.
Have fun. Now everything should work.
Without it, all your brainpower or the help of the search-button would be useless.
Shame on me!
There is still a wrong link in the System folder. Backup funktion is corrupt.
Download and extract the patch attached to the first post.
Copy the folder Patch to the root of the SD card and start the included Patch1.mscr to fix the wrong link.
Fixed the missing MMLauncher in a new Patch, today.
Fettes ROM
Thx Guys (Ather & Muckelmaus) - you rock my MDA Hima like 125mg MDMA
Never get lost again thx to UC (great Navi setup - works stable with my ancient Nokia ld-1w - pickup for 5€@fleemarket).
Finally got an stable Media/Navi/Tool for about 30€ - so waitin for your 6.5 adoptions - Thx again
mda_Mellowheadz said:
Thx Guys (Ather & Muckelmaus) - you rock my MDA Hima like 125mg MDMA
Never get lost again thx to UC (great Navi setup - works stable with my ancient Nokia ld-1w - pickup for 5€@fleemarket).
Finally got an stable Media/Navi/Tool for about 30€ - so waitin for your 6.5 adoptions - Thx again
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People in this forum never, ever have any drug experience or practical knowledge of other consciousness expanding substances, than our Himas, I swear.
Nice, that you like it.
Backpack?
is this rom compatible with the BACKPACK??
Backpack hasent worked in Wm5 or Wm6.x only works in Wm2003
ElCroata said:
is this rom compatible with the BACKPACK??
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It is compatible with the extended battery and it should be compatible with the vga-feature of the backpack.
There is a file of the Net2.0 folder missing in \Windows, sorry, I didn´t find out which one yet.
A small workaround was to copy the file(not the folders) to \windows, but this wastes memory. I´ll patch it, soon, it worked for me.
I was a little bit to radical in cleaning the ROM to get space.
I still hope, that someone finds a way to write a working driver for the cf-slot of the backpack, because I saw a working 6.1 ROM at the Magician forum by some hero without a warning or any hint that it is possible.
So, hope dies last.
See you.
BTW: ather I´ll by you a cheap new used hima, because one of mine has funny behaviour, caused by a 3600mAh battery. PM for your address, to send it.
PS: MMlauncher still doesn´t work. Sorry for that, I think it´s a hardcoded link error.
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
chimpsinties said:
Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
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orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!