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8125 ROM upgrade questions............

Before I try the upgrade I just wanted to get a couple of clarifications. It is simply a "one click" process of running the executable? Of course I assume the phone needs to be connected.
I downloaded a file from the FTP site that I believe is the latest and greatest but I would really rather not fry my phone. <G>
Also, assuming everything goes okay will I loose any of my programs, and contacts?
From the folks that have had trouble, is there any kind of consensus of what cuased their problems? In other words should I avoid doing it if I've seen what with my 8125?
Thanks all,
Dave.......

Make absolutely sure you unlock your CID and sim using Lokiwiz before you upgrade to any ROM.
There's a couple of different ROMs out there as well, so make sure you read their respective threads and see what other people's experiences are with them. Summiter's ROMs are top notch, but make sure you grab the one with the features you are looking for.
In general, AKU2 ROMs are much more stable than your stock 8125's ROM. Most importantly, test all the important functionality (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPRS, etc.) before you start loading apps on your device.
Enjoy!

GliTCH82 said:
Make absolutely sure you unlock your CID and sim using Lokiwiz before you upgrade to any ROM.
There's a couple of different ROMs out there as well, so make sure you read their respective threads and see what other people's experiences are with them. Summiter's ROMs are top notch, but make sure you grab the one with the features you are looking for.
In general, AKU2 ROMs are much more stable than your stock 8125's ROM. Most importantly, test all the important functionality (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPRS, etc.) before you start loading apps on your device.
Enjoy!
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I'm thinking I might just ought to wait until the "official ROM" comes out. Seeing as how I have no idea what you mean by "unlocking your CID" means. <G>
I'm sure it's here in the threads but all this makes me a little nervous. I'm no stranger to all this tech stuff but should I fry my phone it would be hard to justify to the wife that I need to spend $500.00 on another one.

Absolutely. If you don't feel comfortable with the process, then it's best to wait until an official update is released so that you can go right back to the store and get a replacement if something goes wrong.

I just upgraded my 8125 and I don't know what CID means nor did I unlocc it. Its was very simple, just a few cliccs (I think about 4). It only took about 5mins and wow so many more features and better stability then how I recieve my 8125. I used one of the official Roms myself.

Hey I am about to do the update myself. I was wondering if someone could answer a few questions for me.
1.) I see it says when you do the update all the programs need to be reinstalled. Does that mean even the programs that originally came with the phone? Like the calc, and excel? Or just the programs that you installed on your own.
2.) I am mainly interested in the overclocking, and having push email work, and stereo bluetooth. Which rom should i use? there are so many out there now, it can get a bit confusing, and i dont want to use the wrong one. Is there a place you can go to look at the features of each one?
3.) what is the best push email client to use? i am using express mail now, but i am not liking it at all.
Thanks in advance i am loving this forum, and i hope to get my phone up and running soone

1. No. Everything you started with should be there again. Just updated software.
2. As far as OC and Stereo BT. The are specificied on the installer files. Not sure about the Push Email.
3. Haven't used this feature yet.

I did the AKU2 upgrade ROM for the 8125 and I do not see what all the new features are.
Can someone delineate all of the upgraded features for me?
I do notice the new screen for the Connection Manager, but all of the choices seem to be the same.
Thanks
[email protected]

I saw a new screen when just doing the rom. I have no idea what the Extended Rom thing does. I would like to know aswell

Zaiaku said:
I saw a new screen when just doing the rom. I have no idea what the Extended Rom thing does. I would like to know aswell
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The basic 2.17 ROM is just a simple AKU 2 ROM customized for Cingular users. Think of an AKU as a service pack. Microsoft updated some core OS files, and in the case of AKU 2 also included Direct Push and the remote wipe features. Cingular has been dragging their feet in getting an AKU 2 ROM out, hence the homegrown ROMs available here.
The other 2.17 ROMs are built on the basic version, but have additional features as indicated in the file name.
CF2 is Compact Framework 2 and is essentially some .Net components shrunk for mobile devices. Some applications require CF2. CF1 was already included in WIndows Mobile 5, I added CF2 so folks wouldn't need to install it into the limited program storage space.
Themes and ringers are obvious - I added more of them.
A2DP/AVRCP is stereo over Bluetooth, and remote control over Bluetooth. It's used for wireless stereo headphones.
OmapClock is a CPU overclocking utility that allows for specifying a higher or lower clock speed for the CPU. It can help in situations where an application requires more horespower. I added shortcut links with 3 common clock speeds to make overclocking easier. The shortcuts can be assigned to hardware buttons.
Hope this helps.

Touch IT....Kind off...stripped..for wing

Here is as requested, a base rom.
Im giving you here, something I didnt actually want to do. My kaiser build for wing, but no apps but comm manager and touchdialer (I left those because the default has been stripped out)
The stuff removed:
All custom apps
Games
Transcriber
office
internetsharing
my5 fav
win live
live update
alot of ringtones and unusefull sounds
alot of gif files
cant remember the rest right now
This roms is ment for cooking your own rom, not for release of "your rom" after building it like you want. But I cant control that, but do so, and you will never again see work from me on xda.
I left in the rom the .rgu files, so recooking wont be a problem.
If you need apps to include, find them. I will not provide that for you.
Oem packages is all over this place.
So, follow my tutorial to extract it and make your oem, sys and rom folder.
Add the stuff you want and build it as you want for your own device.
I have not had the time, nor do I have the time to flash this to my own to test it, but I see no reson why it should not. But before you come yelling about it not working after you followed the tutorials and w/e, test it by flashing it to your device before you try to cook it.
I removed aprox 16 mb of stuff, but Im not sure what this will show up as after flashing since I dint have time to test it myself.
btw
pagepool is left to default
The os.nb is packed with winrar, so unrar/unzip it.
happy cooking/flashing
cheers
Download:
Rapidshare
Megaupload
(The reason im releasing this is because I have other projects I wanna do, my own device has been neglected to long, and I need to give p4350 users a better build too.)

and yeah, im sure many are waiting for the next part of the tutorial, I hope to finish it before next weekend, my schedule is pretty tight right now.
Maybe I will give a go for ppl to release their rom from this, but not yet for awhile.
Please try to build your own if you wanna release something
good luck experimenting on this
cheers

Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.

awesome dude i'll be sure to try this out and report my (hopefully!) favorable results!

papamopps said:
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
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aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers

Question...
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)

ivanmmj said:
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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Thats why this rom has been released, so that ppl can use it as base in hypercore.
Im not gonna build a kitchen, to hypercore is far the best I know of (kudos to anichillus) And oem packages are placed all over xda forums, search in kitchen threads for the other devices, most apps work for herald.
I dont need no agreement, I was hoping that what I said would be enough
cheerz

I was porting over a new kitchen for people who just wanted point and click, but instead, I might just make a thread as a repository of all the different packages that they can use with your ROM... I don't know. I guess it depends on how much time I have to work on it. The Kitchen Port seems simpler since I have it set ready for the most part...

thanks but i hope the repairing will cost less than your p4350
btw - it was an brand new device since they changed it after i disclaimed the loose slider. it was only 2 month old.....
we´ll see what happens...
itje said:
aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
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I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too

duprade said:
I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
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And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol

papamopps said:
And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
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I guess it's unanimous, Kasiers for everyone, LOL. It will be a Christmas gift to myself, lol. Maybe I can sell my p4350 and Ipaq 6828 for accessories, lol.

your a bunch of copycats

itje said:
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I'm actually planning on upgrading from my P4350 by Christmas anyway, lol. It's time for an upgrade anyway, I had this device for a year now and served me well. I'm either going to get a HTC Kaiser 120 or E-ten Glofiish M800; and a 6mb memory card or course, lol. I'm leaning towards the HTC Kaiser 120 because of the, video calling capabilities, 128MB of onboard RAM and the 3meg pixel camera. I just hope that these devices are not obsolete by then LOL.
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Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/

ivanmmj said:
Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
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All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers

itje said:
All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
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Cool [about the touchflo] What I mean, though, is that when I flash the base ROM with NO changes, the part where you setup the touchscreen is NOT working for me. I tried it three times. hmm...I wonder if it's a wing vs herald thing?
EDIT: ohhh, I see what you're saying now. lol sorry

touch.dll isn't in the official dump. That doesn't make sense... it HAS to be there somewhere... I'll try to redump it.
lol. I figured it out!!

Clean ROM status -Update 3

OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
Because of the lack of bigstorage, we have a lot of unclaimed space.
Storage memory: 36.28MB (This means you can add your own programs without loosing this space.)
Program memory: 27.00MB when first turned on. 26.xx when it starts using parts of it for caching purposes. (28.xx with some tweaks that I will probably not setup in the final ROM because they will make certain things not work the way everyone else is used to.)
Updates:
Bugs found:
1. Notepad doesn't not launch or open in any way shape or form.
Bugs fixed:
1. The volume slider is acting as an up and down arrow instead of a volume slider. If anyone has any input on what controls this, I'd gladly appreciate the help. Also, tapping on the volume control does nothing.
And a little teaser... There's a little over 300+ packages on my next release of EasyBakeOven... which is why it's taking so long. I'm trying to weed out the useless ones, though.
Mental note: Check out the LGplugin to make it a package.
Disclaimer: Should you choose to flash the released ROM or any of its versions, released or otherwise, you are solely responsible for your equipment. I take no responsibility for any damage caused by this ROM nor by any negligence on your behalf while flashing said ROM. I will provide support to the best of my abilities only and ONLY if you have fully read the FAQ I will later provide, read this WHOLE thread AND the instructions, following them to a t. If I do not answer right away, please do not repeatedly ask me with countless PM's. This will not get me to leave my paying job faster and get me online to even SEE that you have a question. If I cannot answer the question, I will tell you. If it's posted here and I haven't responded for over a week, then post another message reminding me. I probably missed it. It is NOT ok to PM me asking me the same question that someone else has already gotten a response for. Read the whole thread. Other than that, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE ROM!!!

ivanmmj said:
OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
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this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..

Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.

trallala said:
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
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Thanks for the idea! I'll probably create a blank extROM and unlock the ROM from my ROM.

FZZF said:
this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
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^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.

ivanmmj said:
^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
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I was referring to the touchflo which I don't even use other then the scrolling feature, but there are some HTC apps that can be very useful and good looking I came a cross a post on here that has all of them http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533&highlight=random+acces
and this link has more apps (for Kaiser) most will work on the wing http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/

thanks your hard work for us,i am from china,and i did the english ROM+chinese language ,i canot wait your ROM out ,and test it.
if it possible ,i hope you may share your kitchen with me ,and i can use it for my english rom and chinese language support.and more chinese people would like it .
let more people use clean ROM
let us work on big storge,and more faster ROM.
and my MSN:[email protected]
for my poor english.

OK. The ROM is flying and it's basically ready for a release as I haven't found any more bugs, so I might do an Alpha release this weekend.

Coool, I can't wait to try it!!!

clean rom
hey to all of you out their looking for a clean rom for the wing. back in my day when I owened a wing I cam across a offical htc hearld wm6 rom the worked with the wings keyboard, if any ones interested I can post it up. you guys can prolly use it as a base to build off of aswell

Santino.. that's like the holy grail of T-mo Wing rom's... please post it.
Regards

sure thing...I had orginally thought that the comunnity was aware of it. ill post it up in the upgrade fourms soon as I get home around 7pm eastern

Oh this would be sooo damn nice, a clean rom! And i sooo hope you get Bigstorage working!

New Rom Making Suggestions!!! (What would you like?)

Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!

umchriswho said:
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.

ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.

How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.

yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..

Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?

mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)

One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.

Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011

papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol

papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...

More Ideas
This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............

also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.

Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077

I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.

How about a 6.1 that has MMS working

umchriswho said:
I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02

I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.

reddhanky said:
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)

NotShorty said:
Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...

Newbies guide. How to get your Orange SPVM700 (Trinity) running WinMo6.5

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I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.

Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?

Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.

Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?

As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.

I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?

The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck

I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.

Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.

Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
chimpsinties said:
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.

Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)

Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.

Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc

Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.

Great ! It works !
chimpsinties said:
Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.

AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.

How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?

Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.

I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!