This is the last of my 30 days to make sure my tilt is perfect. So i was checking it out yesterday and when the keyboard is slid out (not tilted), if you push on the screen and look at the back, you can see and feel that it goes back a little. Should i call in for a replacement? Will this get worst?
how much is a little? All of them will move a little as it needs this slop to open and not have too much friction. My "little" movement is roughly 1/16th - 1/8 of an inch.
lol idk if i can get that technically close. but somewhere around there, not that much, but is it ok? will the ribbon cable get loose over time? would REALLY appreciate it if more people would see if this is commong. mine's about the same thing, not that much, but it still goes back.
Post A Photo!!!
I am intrigued and reminded of all my loose keyboard problems with my original Blue-Angel and then my TYTN.
Please take a photo and post is so we can see properly.
Thanks
Nicholas
What happens after 30 days if something goes wrong. Will AT&T deal with it?
they will but i will likely get a refurbished one, not a brand new one.
@nicholas, there's no way you can see it by a pic, it's not that big lol.
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The top part of the slider (the screen) on my kaiser sits just a little too far to the right when in the closed position. When I'm holding it and talking on it, my finger feels the slight ledge and it's kind of annoying. Has anyone found a good way to adjust the closed position of the kaiser?
Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.
As i know the two tiny rubber stop the screen going further. You can glue something to the rubber to adjust the position. Check the photo attached. I can't think of anything except that can help.
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Anybody? I'll eventually dig into it myself, but it would be nice to know if someone else has already done it so I can skip the experimenting and take apart only what needs to be taken apart.
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Ah I see...
Thank you for the pictures. That helps. One of the rubber bumpers on mine is somewhat malformed. I may end up disassembling this thing and making some sort of replacement.
I just noticed mine was doing this too, so I returned it today. Lol the next one I got had a very very very tight usb fit. it felt like it was going to rip the usb port out every time I would pull my usb plug off. So I went to return that one! They had only one more left which was the display model, lol. Of course I didn't take that.
So what they did is ordered 3 more to be shipped in this Monday and they are going to let me go over each one and decide which is the best for me to take home!
Just thought I'd update this thread with my story.
I tried to do a warranty exchange with AT&T when I found out that the warranty follows the Tilt, rather than being linked to the person that bought it (I bought mine off of craigslist) but they wouldn't do it. They said for something physical like that it had to be within the first 30 days of when it was first used on their system.
So I decided to fix it myself. I measured the amount of overhang at each end near the slide track using calipers, then looked around for something of the right thickness to add to the rubber bumpers discussed above. I settled on a piece of black, vinyl heat-shrink tubing used for electrical conections. 2 layers of it were enough to correct the overhang at one end and 3 layers at the other. I cut the pieces out making squares about .050" (a little over a millimeter) per side and glued the layers together. I used an exacto knife to cut them and trim after glueing. This was a tiny bit over-sized and they stuck into the tracks so well that I didn't bother glueing them into the phone.
My phone feels so much better in my hand now it's amazing. Before, that little difference made my phone feel super cheap and it was really annoying. Now it feels rigid and well made. =)
atleast you got it fixed. My first tilt was in my back pocket and i sat down on it and had the same thing.. so i gave it to my dad and got another one He hasn't noticed.. (actually i bought him a new one on ebay while he was visiting but it didnt arrive in time so i gave him the one i was using at the time, and about 30 min after i got home after dropping him off at the airport, guess who decides to knock on my door? the UPS guy with the new tilt )
Hi, i recently got my HTC KAISER,
unfortunately, the case that came with it to me is terrible, until now because of it, the phone fell from my hand 2 times until now. i have a feeling that the hinge is a bit loose from the screen. does anyone know how to tighten it back to the screen? from the right hand side there is about 2mm gap, and it makes a sound when i touch the screen since it hits the back.
any help, is appreciated.. esp if they are productive.
Thnx in advance
How can we help fix it if it was dropped? You didn't even provide any pics of it and I highly doubt we can help you. If its damaged its damaged, and your only course of action is to take it back and see if its under warranty and cross your fingers. I wish you the best of luck and hope someone can repair it for you. As far as the case I totally know how flimsy they are.
What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.
what a couple of unhelpful posts, have we no mercy? this forum is full of topics that are 100% kaiser but 0% development, why are you picking on the poor guy with the (possibly) broken phone? and why direct him to some AT&T forum when he's already said it's an HTC branded phone? if you're going to kick a man when he's down, at least read his post properly first.
to the op: I feel your pain. in my first couple of weeks with the kaiser I must have dropped mine a dozen times, I think it's something to do with the extra weight. anyway, I too had some issues with the screen afterward - at one point their was a definite gap between the screen and keyboard as you described. I really noticed it and worried at first, but after a few days use and pocketwear, I found it pretty much closed up by itself. similiarly, i've found times where the top half of the phone has become misaligned to the left or right, so it overhangs slightly - this can be cured with a gentle but firm push the other way. I think the whole mechanism has been designed with a bit of give in it, so it can take odd knock without shattering, but still be nudged back into place without any real damage done. My advice - keep using it, slide and tilt it a few dozen times, and see if it falls back into shape. if it doesn't, try a firm but gentle push in the right direction, and if *that* doesn't work then take it back. but don't take any nonsense in the shop - insist on a warranty repair.
What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?
You don't have to be a customer of ATT forums to post there. The Kaiser design and the Tilt design are identical except for logos and the front cam.
The discussion would probably be better there instead of xda-developers
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What are you talking about? I was blunt and straight to the point with the op. I told him we can't do anything and where he needs to go. I'm not gonna hold someones hand and tell them everything is gonna be fine and there's light at the end of the tunnel. He made a thread with NO pics to even show us what is going on so are we suppose to guess?
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there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.
Thnx for the support
Thnx for all of the support until now....
i am begining to accept the fact that i can bear the hinge problem which might not be a problem since the aligning is ok slightly loose, but today in the morning, i noticed that after the fall, the "start" button of the keyboard is sticking out, is there anyway to stick.fix it back in like the rest of the keys (something similar to the laptop buttons, by pushing it in, in a way??)
thnx for all of the support.
There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.
pls
any ideas concerning the keyboard problem?
The start is not in its place no more, it is somewhat hanging...
plssss help...
thnx
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there may be people on the forum that are famaliar with taking apart the Tilt and tightening the hinges. this is why he posted.
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As am I. Again. We're not mind readers. If you have a hardware problem you post pics and point-out exactly what's wrong so people can trouble shoot it. Take it to at&t like the first post suggested. I think a few of you need a cab that installs common sense before you post.
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There is a thread around here some where that has a ZIP or a link to a PDF file that shows you how to take the phone apart. The reson for the PDF was to show you how to make the screen tilt even more than what it does stock. Search for it, I dont have the link, but I have seen it and read it on these forums.
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The dismantling guide that Grizzley refers to is available here (Tonychen's guide):www.mikechannon.net (in the manuals section)
To the posters that don't like the OPs post:
If the post had been made in the Upgrading Forum then I would join you in saying this is not a development or upgrading matter. However the post was made in the regular Kaiser section and is therefore a completely legitimate post. In fact, we have a tradition of trying to help those that want to dis-assemble their device for whatever reason. Even if they don't, but just need more info on the mechanics of the device then that is ok too. Thinking of the TyTn/Hermes, a fix was found for the loose keyboard problem via dismantling procedures and physical examination of the device. Problems can be physical as well as software related, so don't be too narrowly focused in this general Kaiser forum.
I do agree with those that say you must give full details and pics if at all possible with this kind of problem, otherwise we are left guessing and possibly wasting time suggesting things that maybe inappropriate.
Mike
Pictures are here
Here are the pics...
look at the "start" button, it is not completely removed, it is hanging on like this....
look at the gap from the right hand side (Power + camera button side) is bigger that the gap from the sim slot side, therefore generating a plastic tap sound when pressing on the screen from the right side. as you can see in the pics, the gap is bigger than the paper clip size.
any suggestions for reducing the gap, and fixing the "Start" button?
any suggestions?????
help would be appreciated!
Ok, after seeing what's wrong you def need to take it back to the store you bought it from. Ask them if they can sen it out for repair. They'l most likely give ya a temp phone til it comes back. Now, it's probably not gonna be covered for obvious reasons, however, it might be cheaper to have them repair it rather than buy another one. Worst case scenario you could replace it with a refurb. Refurbs are excellent and some you can't tell if they're refurbs to be honest. Cost is approx $149, plus shipping. Let us know what they say when you take it back.
Other than taking it to the store, any possible suggestion that i could take action on by my self to fix this issue quickly?
because they will ask me to leave it with them for a couple of weeks!
I know cnn.cn does sell replacement parts, if your willing to do the repair yourself. Sorry I cant help anymore
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What does this have to do with XDA development?
Try the ATT wireless forums. This forum is for development.
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Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.
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Hey jon_k, hat was bloody helpful mate!!!!!
I trust that you will be shown the same courtesy by the rest of us should you ever have a "non-development" question!!!
BTW, this forum is NOT just about development....ummm, can you read dude?
a$$wipe.
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jon_k's post was over 20 days ago, and he's already been corrected by a mod. Before this gets out of hand, let me remind you to not feed the trolls!
With the help of the link above you will be prepared to open the Kaiser. OK, you have to have the tools mentioned and do take a deep breath before you start, but as soon as you start the process is simple. Print out the photo's and write on the paper the colour and type of the screws you removed.
The glued on case above the battery compartment is the meanest of them all to remove and thats where you start with. So when that is done in about 5 minutes you can discover the buttons from the inside and in 10 minutes you come to the hinges where you find a total of four philips screws to tighten.
Beware for one thing though. The black plate which holds the slider system is held by six torx screws. Check them too, but don't tighten them too much or you will end up with a broken screw. Guess how I know
Regards, Roel
So my tilt fell off my clip while I was out in the yard and before I realized it, I had walked all over it. Everything seems to function but the LCD colors area all jacked up. It is faded (mostly white), funky colored, and hard to see what is going on. Attached is a picture of it. Do you think it is just the LCD? (I can replace that for 70 bucks from blackberry8100parts.com). Or do you think I've killed something else?
Any advice would be fantastic before I waste 70 bucks getting a new LCD.
Thanks,
Alan
I just want to know what kind of clip you had?
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I just want to know what kind of clip you had?
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It was seidio's holster. I really like it but it is def easy to knock the tilt out of it.
If you are willing to open the tilt up to replace a broken LCD then I would go ahead and open it NOW and see if you find other damage. You are looking for anything cracked. There are manuals for the unit in the wiki. If you haven't cracked anything else then your probably ok but the only real test is to buy and LCD and try it out. I assume that slide action of the keyboard tray is as it was before you stepped on it? It it anyway stiff or off? Does it tilt up the same way and with as much ease as before?
Everything seems to slide and tilt up without a problem. There is no looseness, friction, resistance, etc.
I have read through instructions on how to take it apart. Only thing is that I'm going to get a new LCD, I need to use the phone till I get it It is usable, just a bit tricky ;-) I'm a bit nervous taking a part twice. I also don't have the right tools which would come with the LCD.
Guess I'm just going to have to buy the LCD. I can always resell it if need be.
Alan
Maybe try and open it up to see if you have a loose connector because that color thing is weird. Usually you would have a crack on the screen and you would see the crack but instead you seem to be missing some colors which leads me to think that the connector might have become unseated a little.
Any update on this? Something happened to my tilt last night and it's doing the same thing!
Probably just the LCD but it might just be a loose flat multi connector. If there's no warranty then as suggested above you could dismantle just to be sure you do actually need a new LCD. In the worst case scenario you could find that compnents on the d/pad daughter board are damaged. You can only really tell by internal inspection.
Mike
I went ahead and purchased a new LCD from fonlogix figuring I could always keep the LCD as a just in case or even resell it. It was suppose to have come with the t5 torx driver and the case opener but the case opener wasn't in the package. I emailed them and they said they were out and didn't want to hold the shipment. They are suppose to be sending me one though. I would rather not try dismantling without it because I don't want to risk anything (nor do I want to try with my finger nails). I'm hoping to receive the tool very soon so when I do and I get it dismantled, I'll post back.
I think just maybe the ribbon cable that connects the LCD to the mobo has come lose.
I know on my Hermes, this was located under the center buttoin, and when I would press it hard enough it would make a secure connection, and it would display normal color quality, and when I let go it would become like a 2bit color quality
Fixed! I went ahead and replaced the LCD and now it works. I examined all connections as best I could as I went along and didn't find any loose ones so I'm not for sure if it really was a loose connection or a broken LCD. Regardless, I'm not going to take it apart again to find out! I'll keep my old LCD as a backup and if it becomes necessary, test it out
Thanks!
Alan
in the future you could use a program like my mobiler I have attached it to check out your tilt that is what I did when the screen broke you can view your tilt on your pc with out the screen
you should post a video on how easy it is for the tilt to come out of the seidio holster... i was actually thinking about getting it.... but i play a lot of sports so if it would knock out easily then it wouldnt really be good for me.
The problem with the seidio holster is that it is open at the top on the sides. Thus, if you or something hits or puts pressure from the side at the top of the tilt (where the power, ptt, and ok buttons along with the wheel are), it pops out of the case.
Tilt LCD Replacement Video
www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out
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www.blackberry8100parts.com
now has Tilt LCD Video replacement instructions in High Definition.
check it out
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Thanks for the link. Did anyone download the plugin? I'm getting tired of all these diffent plugins, they will slow your system down over time.
Hey guys, first of all great forum. Anyway I was wondering if any of you guys get a small creaking sound when you tilt your screen up and down? Its really sad but these things kinda bother me. thanks
I don't, my tilts up fine. Your hinges could be getting rusty.
anyones tilt doesnt stay tilted??? =) like u tilt it up and then it will go back down..
no sounds
get it checked
is the mechanism adjustable as this may help....I would like to adjust mine because when I hold the case when it's closed it will go slilghtly ajar and seems like it should be tighter. Does anyone know how to adjust these?
Ok These are Springs that cause all this, the creaking, the ajarness.
And If I can offer some advise. If you do go trying to replace this part, which you can do. Please wear eye protection.
Lol replacing those would probably be hard and not a good idea, Tytn II looks to have a pretty complicated body.
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Hey guys, first of all great forum. Anyway I was wondering if any of you guys get a small creaking sound when you tilt your screen up and down? Its really sad but these things kinda bother me. thanks
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LOL, so funny. I recently received a replacement Tilt, and it had the creaking like you mentioned. I thought I was being crazy, but it really bothered me, so I called them and had them send a new replacement out. The new one no longer creaks, and
I feel much better
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anyones tilt doesnt stay tilted??? =) like u tilt it up and then it will go back down..
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Yeah, mine got really loose and wouldn't stay up, and it was also really sloppy, i.e. the screen would wobble back and forth when it was open. As it turned out I was able to fix it myself by popping the unit open, and inside the body there are 4 screws (once you get to them) that hold the hinges in and control their tension. I tightened the screws and have had no problems since. I got the disassembly instructions from the Wiki, they were in Russian but the pictures were explicit enough.
I love my tilt. It needs work, I can do. But should I just get a new-like tmob G1 (htc dream?) and unlock it for ATT and styart hacking on that? How cool is the platform? Is it as much fun to have one of those and play on XDA?
You can get an entire screen for your kaiser for around $35 check out fonlogix. The dream is a good phone too, you can check them out on the forum.
I've gone through a screen replacement on my Kaiser--it works perfectly fine, although it was a pain in the you know what to take apart and put back together. Unfortunately, I guess I wasn't careful enough; the upper/lower halves of the phone don't line up perfectly, although its not a good deal. If you value your time (it will take 1 to 2 hours) and you don't want to screw up, just get a new phone. But if you enjoy DIY and want to save some $$ like I did, then go for it
By the way my brother has a G1 that I use a lot, it is a fantastic phone, the larger capacitive screen is a huge upgrade and there are tons of *excellent* ROMs.
Tilt screen replacemnt
I just put a screen in my wife's 8925 a couple minutes ago.
Took about 45 minutes
Remove top bezel, unplug screen, remove. Clean top housing where new screen/digitizer will be, place new in, attach connector and replace housing.
The right hand side, in the middle, is the toughest part to get back together. It may have been easier to put the top bezel back on if the whole phone was apart, but it seemed better to do as I did and not take lots apart.
45 minutes and less than $30 from ebay. Only problem is the screen is not aligned perfectly. most of the screen is proper, but the scroll bars that adjust the time in a new appointment have to be touched more to the right of the button instead of being able to use the whole button. I suppose I got a cheesy screen that the digitizer is not as good as the original one. Still she is happy, and that makes me happy!
@ Hangard
damn your good...guess I need more practice lol
youy folks already fixed your phones? wher'd you get yer reaplacements..
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Where did you get yer digitizer+touchscreen? sounds like ebay. gotta link? how important r toolz?
So Im not clear Ive got spider cracks and 'ppols' of black and not hires display just B&W. Does that mean I need to get a digitizer or a DTGZER and touchscreen from ebay... seems like im finding a lot of digitizers for $10?