Hi.
I know this might already be confirmed but I did a simple logging on com4 and found that the gps i really there. Will go out later today and test it again but this time outside. I attach the logging to.
One more thing, it´s kinda strange the gps is always on, atleast htc could disable the gps for real if they´r not gonna use it. The battery time would increase alot.
GPS is enabled, how more i read about it it has to do with something like no antenna is connected. When i use the GPS test tool it finds a GPS on com4 and have one sat in screen.
lol
to cold here to go outside, put mine by the window the other day and got one sat with GPS test.
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Here is mine, I found also one sat, it was inside the house before the window. GPS is working but its no sensitive enough, could be no antenna.
Where can I get the software to access the GPS? Sorry for the simple question, I've been looking around online and can't find it.
Lurchy24 said:
Where can I get the software to access the GPS? Sorry for the simple question, I've been looking around online and can't find it.
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http://www.smartphone.net/software_detail.asp?id=3170
Thanks. I only get one satellite as well.
Im very happy!! 1 sat. is better than no sat.
hope we can get GPS running for real.. soon
As jockyw2001 also wrote: We need pics of the inside of S730, both pre-production (with antenna) and current production model/or service manuals of Kaiser and s730. Then we will be able to see how the antenna looks like and where is it connected.
Idea!!
Is it possible to make (by HTC) the hardware switch on s730 board, which is disconnecting the antenna?
Then, the antenna could exist and the new ROM could enable this feature in future.
gps
Is there anyone here in the forum that actually has GPS working and getting a few sat signals etc.
it will be intresting to see if there is any difrerences in there registry. If someone has it working can they post the reg. info so we can compare.
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One more thing, it´s kinda strange the gps is always on, atleast htc could disable the gps for real if they´r not gonna use it. The battery time would increase alot.
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GPS is not always on. It has some power saving timeout and 'wakes up' when communication port is openned and GPS data are read.
On the COM4 is not directly GPS, but GPS intermediate driver (someone knows it from PPCs), that allows more application can read from one COM port.
oh
something else i thought of is there a working driver for the gps on the phone or not? Im not really sure if it needs one.
Also i found a pdf of the msm7200 chipset. not that much to look at but you can see the gps etc and how its wired and i presume an antena at the end.
Follow the link http://www.3gchipsets.co.kr/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
Here is a s730 with GPS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337796&page=2
yes it was a preproduction model. In the official models its not working. We need to find out what is difference between both models
I am still new to the smartphone world so I cannot be of too much help, but this is what i've seen thusfar;
With GPS Test I have gotten sats on com 2,4 and 7, every satellite I pick up is at 0 on the little map locator screen. The GPS tool never gets past GPS starting up, stays fixed at 1D and no other info gets downloaded.
My testing has been in very cloudy weather over the past few days here in Texas, today though its nice and clear so I hope to get more done. I played a little with the baud rate but nothing came of it. When I did pick up a sat it was gone in 10 - 20 seconds. I did at one point pick up two at once, both in the same direction. Overall I have seen 6 different satellites, only 2 at once, and all from the same location. Could be thats the only open direction I had for visibility at the time.
I do remember reading somewhere that the GPS chip had a small antenna actually built onto it. Hopefully we can get it working soon.
10332007 said:
I am still new to the smartphone world so I cannot be of too much help, but this is what i've seen thusfar;
With GPS Test I have gotten sats on com 2,4 and 7, every satellite I pick up is at 0 on the little map locator screen. The GPS tool never gets past GPS starting up, stays fixed at 1D and no other info gets downloaded.
My testing has been in very cloudy weather over the past few days here in Texas, today though its nice and clear so I hope to get more done. I played a little with the baud rate but nothing came of it. When I did pick up a sat it was gone in 10 - 20 seconds. I did at one point pick up two at once, both in the same direction. Overall I have seen 6 different satellites, only 2 at once, and all from the same location. Could be thats the only open direction I had for visibility at the time.
I do remember reading somewhere that the GPS chip had a small antenna actually built onto it. Hopefully we can get it working soon.
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could you find out where you have read it?
This is one place, I cannot find the other place, it was their blog or one of those other sights that has a blog in playing with the pre production unit they talked about its processor and GPS... I'll try to dig it up.
Getting really annoying having the tool stay in "GPS starting up" mode none stop. Need to find the HTC version that the pre prod. phones were using or figure out how they nerf'd it.
Yes, I think I saw the same blog forum, but this blog is out now :/.
http://superiorgadgets.blogspot.com/2007/09/htc-s730-worthy-successor-of-popular.html
But of course the blogger still exist on http://superiorgadgets.blogspot.com/
http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/showthread.php?t=23205
Post #7.
Has anyone tried to get a pre-production rom?
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I thought I'd do a signal comparison with the new tilt. I used TomTom gps viewer for ease of use.
Here are my results.
Patio area:Fairly covered, narrow view to N and E 45* at best, mostly 80*ish
SIRFIII
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Next I went to the car. Its in parking lot surrounded by buildings, about 45* clear on 3 sides, 60* on one side....
SIRFIII At sunroof
Tilt at sunroof
I used the sunroof because I typically put the SIRFIII receiver in the sunroof slider for best signal, this is obviously not possible with the tilt so I also tested at the console...
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SIRFIII at console
Tilt at console
Notice the Tilt at sunroof is nearly = to SIRFIII at console...
Now I tried one to test the SIRFIII's capabilities.
Inside garage with door closed on bottom floor of 3 story building on the console....
I couldn't believe it still got a fix on there, I'm amazed
And of course
Tilt in garage on console...NO FIX (duh)
If anyone else has results/input please do add.
I am inside the building, and still get result!
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I thought I'd do a signal comparison with the new tilt. I used TomTom gps viewer for ease of use.
Here are my results.
Patio area:Fairly covered, narrow view to N and E 45* at best, mostly 80*ish
SIRFIII
Tilt on Patio: NO FIX
Next I went to the car. Its in parking lot surrounded by buildings, about 45* clear on 3 sides, 60* on one side....
SIRFIII At sunroof
Tilt at sunroof
I used the sunroof because I typically put the SIRFIII receiver in the sunroof slider for best signal, this is obviously not possible with the tilt so I also tested at the console...
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Penske MB said:
I am inside the building, and still get result!
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Yea thats what I keep hearing, but I have to be away from buildings out on the clear open to get a fix though...hmmm
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Yea thats what I keep hearing, but I have to be away from buildings out on the clear open to get a fix though...hmmm
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Same here. =/
me too. I get no fix inside my 2 story house with no trees around. I lose fix even inside a train that is travelling through a wide open area.
2 stories above me.
For me it basically works every where I have tried. Locks under 5 seconds. Used to have the Ipaq 6945 and took almost a minute to lock and never got a lock inside buildings. I do know know how well this compares to external ones since I never got the chance to try any. Overall very satisfied.
I have never got a fix inside a room and I think this is quite obvious.
And basically I dont really care, why do I need to use GPS inside a room?
The thing that really important for me:
- How is it perform? Do you get signal lost quite often?
No, I dont. I have the same experience when using my old Magician+BT-338 Sirf III external GPS.
In some rural area in Belgium I noticed the Kaiser GPS has only 1 bar of signal, and it worked fine.
- How fast is it to get satellite fix after exiting a tunnel?
Again, same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
- How fast is it to get the first satellite fix after turned on?
Very fast, between 5 - 30 seconds The same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
Well, at least, thats my own experience.
For sure, SirfIII GPS could be more powerful than the NMEA of Kaiser, but the NMEA is powerful enough
At first I was quite skeptical about this NMEA vs SirfIII, but not anymore.
Next week, another test ... 450 km driving to Germany
gogol said:
I have never got a fix inside a room and I think this is quite obvious.
And basically I dont really care, why do I need to use GPS inside a room?
The thing that really important for me:
- How is it perform? Do you get signal lost quite often?
No, I dont. I have the same experience when using my old Magician+BT-338 Sirf III external GPS.
In some rural area in Belgium I noticed the Kaiser GPS has only 1 bar of signal, and it worked fine.
- How fast is it to get satellite fix after exiting a tunnel?
Again, same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
- How fast is it to get the first satellite fix after turned on?
Very fast, between 5 - 30 seconds The same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
Well, at least, thats my own experience.
For sure, SirfIII GPS could be more powerful than the NMEA of Kaiser, but the NMEA is powerful enough
At first I was quite skeptical about this NMEA vs SirfIII, but not anymore.
Next week, another test ... 450 km driving to Germany
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Nice! u goin for vacay or shopping?
What's the difference?
Definetely holiday + shopping.
I've never been there, so I am not sure if I am gonna like it though.
ghaith_d said:
Nice! u goin for vacay or shopping?
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I find my Kaiser VERY slow to get a lock. Even outside with no obstructions. More than two or three minutes in most cases.
I'm comparing to a Garmin Nuvi 660...
Only software I have tried is the GPS photo and Google Maps.
The Kaiser GPS is A-GPS, meaning it can use mobile phone signals to aid a fix.
Personally, going from a bluetooth sirfIII to the kaiser GPS, I don't notice a difference in accuracy in day-to-day usage.
Fix time, however, with the Kaiser, is much, much quicker. 5 seconds max usually.
sgt-spam said:
I find my Kaiser VERY slow to get a lock. Even outside with no obstructions. More than two or three minutes in most cases.
I'm comparing to a Garmin Nuvi 660...
Only software I have tried is the GPS photo and Google Maps.
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Have you updated the GPS quickfix software? This downloads the satellite positions in advance so that it does not have to download them from the satellites, which is low bandwidth and subject to interference. Even if you could see every satellite, you won't get a "lock" until it knows where the satellites are and can do the triangulation.
I have always been able to get a fix inside my living room. The only place (inside) where I have not been able to get a fix is at my workplace, but, then again, I don't get cellphone signal at workplace either.
It seems we either had a poor experience with it, or a great one. I'm using the ATT ROM.
AGPS (Assisted GPS) is disabled in AT&T's ROM. Can someone with the HTC ROM check HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\EnableAGPS?
On the AT&T ROM EnableAGPS is disabled, or set to 0 and the GPSMode is 2. What are these values on the HTC ROM?
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AGPS (Assisted GPS) is disabled in AT&T's ROM. Can someone with the HTC ROM check HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\EnableAGPS?
On the AT&T ROM EnableAGPS is disabled, or set to 0 and the GPSMode is 2. What are these values on the HTC ROM?
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On the HTC ROM the EnableAGPS is disabled too (set to 0) and GPSMode is 2 too...
Seems Assisted GPS are disabled in HTC too. Can be enabled changing the EnableAGPS?
What are the advantage of using instead of QuickGPS?
Thanks.
AGPS will help get your location using the cell network. I will enable it and see if it help getting GPS locks while indoors.
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AGPS will help get your location using the cell network. I will enable it and see if it help getting GPS locks while indoors.
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Did it help at all ? Very intresting
It did not help at all. The server configured in the registry is for Orange in France. Unless we find one server that works for us in the US, I don't think we can use this feature.
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It did not help at all. The server configured in the registry is for Orange in France. Unless we find one server that works for us in the US, I don't think we can use this feature.
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Yes, you are right, this is the info for the serverIP in my HTC spanish ROM
Nombre: LNeuilly-152-21-109-109.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr
Address: 193.253.42.109
I'll give a try and see if get data indoor...
Posters in other forums say that they have no problem getting GPS info on their devices, without subscribing to a service, as long as its a free program like Google Maps or Windows Mobile Live.
I do not connect, and I have downloaded the free trial of TelNav and it still doesn't work. Before I knew better, I tried to set the GPS on the device and I hope it is all set correctly. Under settings > System> External GPS > I have it set at COM4. I used and set the QuickGPS program.
Any ideas or suggestions?
I really would appreciate any help; I have no previous GPS experience.
Go to External GPS in Settings
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Go outside and test it with Windows Live Search.
Surur
Make sure WLS is set to use com port 4 however.
Thats all.
Surur
Thanks for the detailed response.
What you describe is what I have done, but it searches for 30 - 40 seconds and I get a message "failed to connect"
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
Try running QuickGPS to speed lock times?
Then install this GPS app to see if you are seeing any satellites at all.
http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/
(remember to set it to serial port 4 under Connect-Serial Port)
Surur
Grab GPS test from Chartcross and see if the GPS is working at all. WLS & Google Maps have time-outs that can be too short for signal acquisition, so they're a bad test bed.
If you haven't run QuickGPS, run that first to download satellite locations and speed up the time to a signal lock.
You guys don't have to play around with the GPS settings, that's only for external GPS device, If you played around with those settings you might have to do a hard reset to get the gps working again, the WLS & Google see the GPS and should work without doing anything. Try search this forum and I think few quite few people had to perform hard reset to get it working again.
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You guys don't have to play around with the GPS settings, that's only for external GPS device, If you played around with those settings you might have to do a hard reset to get the gps working again, the WLS & Google see the GPS and should work without doing anything. Try search this forum and I think few quite few people had to perform hard reset to get it working again.
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I agree. The consensus seems to be that if you mess with the external GPS settings you are hosed and only a hard reset will get you back to a normal state.
I use GpsViewer. Availabe here:
http://www.pocketmap.com/accessories/GpsViewer.exe
to get my gps active before I run googlemaps.
set the gpsviewer to com4 and 4800 baud.
surur said:
Make sure WLS is set to use com port 4 however.
Thats all.
Surur
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How do you get to the GPS settings and these screens on Windows Live? I've tried but did not manage to find them. Live FAQ was not of much help either.
Leon - Open Live Search, click on the botton right "Menu" button, in the list click "Settings" and you'll see the screen.
Odd, playing around with them was the only way I could get in working.
midyatspor1000 said:
You guys don't have to play around with the GPS settings, that's only for external GPS device, If you played around with those settings you might have to do a hard reset to get the gps working again, the WLS & Google see the GPS and should work without doing anything. Try search this forum and I think few quite few people had to perform hard reset to get it working again.
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Leon - Open Live Search, click on the botton right "Menu" button, in the list click "Settings" and you'll see the screen.
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Do I need to install any separate app? I have 'Windows Live' installed on my Tytn II, and there are no such settings. The only place where I get 'Live Search' is as a plugin in the Today screen, not as a separate app. When I type something in the Live Search on the today screen it opens up PIE.
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Do I need to install any separate app? I have 'Windows Live' installed on my Tytn II, and there are no such settings. The only place where I get 'Live Search' is as a plugin in the Today screen, not as a separate app. When I type something in the Live Search on the today screen it opens up PIE.
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Got me for a minute too... go into programs and there should be both a Windows Live and Live Search app. The Live Search app is the one with the settings...
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Got me for a minute too... go into programs and there should be both a Windows Live and Live Search app. The Live Search app is the one with the settings...
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I don't have the Live Search app displayed on the Tytn II. Found that this is a separate download from Microsoft. In any case it's not useful for me since it is stated that LS is only available for USA and UK.
I got my Tilt a couple of days ago. I opened QuickGPS and it downloaded whatever it needed to. I fired up Google Maps and within 30 seconds, it locked my location in. I didn't have to change any GPS settings. Then, later that day, I tried it again. I fired up GM and nothing. It sits there on "initializing GPS". I tried manually setting the GPS. Still nothing.
Now, my internal GPS doesn't seem to be working at all. The QuickGPS fails everytime I try to update it. I even did the reghack where it resets the timer. Same thing. Every program I try, Windows Live, GM, Streets & Trips, nothing will make the GPS work. I can see that the LED is blinking, indicating that it's on.
The other thing is, once I try to use the GPS, I have to soft reset or else my phone runs like it's in slow motion. It apparently is constantly trying to access the GPS and slows things down a LOT.
Any clues? I bought this phone because of the GPS. It worked once and hasn't worked since then. I'm about ready to hard reset this thing but I'm afraid it'll just happen again.
.:Christian:.
nispen said:
Odd, playing around with them was the only way I could get in working.
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same here...
Just for ****s and giggles, for those of you that have gone into the External GPS settings, what are they supposed to be set at? I know the first screen is COM4, but what about the second (the hardware port)? I saw some screen shots posted in here today but I'll be damned if I can find them now...
.:Christian:.
I noticed the QuickGPS download didn't work with my Wi-FI turned on. Once I turned it off (and have a 3G connection only), I was able to Download a QuickGPS update successfully. Anyone else encounter this?
Maybe a lame reply, but you are outside right? Inside near a window didn't cut it for me... outside in a large downtown area might not either.
Unfortunately my only solution was to hard reset. Pisses me off, too, because I had never gone into the External GPS settings before it stopped working. Then, last night, I had to hard reset AGAIN because Map4PDA killed my GPS. It's a sweet program, but only when it works properly.
.:Christian:.
P.S. And yes, I was outside, both standing outside and in my car. Now that my GPS is working properly, I can get a signal lock inside my house.
Hello all,
I've been looking for a way to start my GPS when I want it, I want the red led to blink at me!
The only way I can get it to work is with googlemaps or tomtom, that software then magicly activates the module for me. Why can't I do that, I am your master little computer!
Also if I try other software like nav4all and amazegps, I just get the message: No GPS device found. It's driving me crazy.
I would be very gratefull if someone could please tell me where to find the switch, button to activate the GPS module when I want it on. And maybe also tell what I am doing wrong in relation to other software that tells me I do not have GPS.
Thanks allot!
Loeder
Compatible software switches it on whenever you wish master.
Loeder said:
I've been looking for a way to start my GPS when I want it, I want the red led to blink at me!
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Whats wrong with the orange flashing light you get with Tomtom working? As far as I know, without any jiggery pokery installing cabs, the red light is reserved only for low battery or problems so if you're really keen to have a flashing red light, let the battery discharge below 5% (that ought to give you a few mins usable GPS usage).
The only way I can get it to work is with googlemaps or tomtom, that software then magicly activates the module for me. Why can't I do that, I am your master little computer!
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You can if you learn programming skills and write a module to load and use the devices GPS driver. These products you have that don't detect the TyTN IIs GPS capability don't have that built in, hence they cant 'see' any GPS. A simpler way is just to write to your preferred GPS software provider and ask them to make it compatible with your device or buy/use something that already is fully compatible.
I would be very gratefull if someone could please tell me where to find the switch, button to activate the GPS module when I want it on. And maybe also tell what I am doing wrong in relation to other software that tells me I do not have GPS.
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I trust the above addresses this (although I suspect your usage of 'module' above means this is no surprise to you).
At least the MWg Zinc II has it built-in to the COMM MANAGER - not that I would see a need for it since good application should be able to find and use the GPS module anyway, however, it tells me that there should be a way in WM to turn it on manually!
Loeder:
Most GPS apps have settings menu where you can set the GPS settings, for the Tilt/TyTN II/Kaiser, COM 4 and 56000 always worked for me.
Flying Kiwi:
The red light Loeder is talking about is the "GPS Active" light, not the "low battery" light.
Thanks for the help!
I actually installed some sort of device driver that made my GPS crash everytime, now a hardreset saved me but the good thing is that I can now run (http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php) free navigation that does the job same as TomTom (to think i almost spent €50,-).
Still, it is ... quit annoying that they did not put a simple button in the comm menu or otherwise...
TyTn II has been great sofar.
Loeder
GPS active light is orange, not red.
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Flying Kiwi:
The red light Loeder is talking about is the "GPS Active" light, not the "low battery" light.
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That one is orange - check it and you'll see
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That one is orange - check it and you'll see
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i know, that's what he meant, let's not fight over it.
Loeder said:
Thanks for the help!
I actually installed some sort of device driver that made my GPS crash everytime, now a hardreset saved me but the good thing is that I can now run (http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php) free navigation that does the job same as TomTom (to think i almost spent €50,-).
Still, it is ... quit annoying that they did not put a simple button in the comm menu or otherwise...
TyTn II has been great sofar.
Loeder
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Yes but when you spend that €50 you get maps loaded for your location, so if you don't have a 3G or Data connection when your trying to figure out where the hell you are you can at least see roads to travel on. This is the one thing that bugs me, I don't live in the city so when I'm out "Joy Riding" and want to find where I am going sometimes I don't have a cell signal so my phone is useless with Google or Live or this amaze program, Plus I purchased a version of streets and trips but of course they are not nice enough to include a WM version with your laptop version so now if I want that on my phone i have to buy it AGAIN... I may go that route since looking on Tom Tom even if I was able to install the V7 cab they don't sell US&Canada maps... Or at least I can't find where to buy them from.
Scratch that... Microsoft doesn't have a version to go with streets and trips since the 05 version I think... so Now I'm limited to navigation programs that require a data connection... WTF... Unless someone can tell me where TomTom is hiding their US maps on the map purchase page for Navigator 7
If you want to turn your GPS on, then use a little app called GPSViewer or VisualGPSCE, both are freeware and attached for your convenience.
There is another application called GPSTest.exe, it is attached.
Turning it on does not mean it can automatically be used
Irrespective of whether a utility is used to turn on GPS, I don't imagine it would enable a non-compatible package that can't initialise GPS itself, to work with the TyTN II though.... or will it?
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Thanks MACkjam, another little usefull apps, all i knew was just GPSTest and it's incridible.
My main app for GPS was still Garmin XT, free map available for Indonesian region.
I would once again say thank you for all the help, and the programs you posted allong with your replies.
I hope this thread will be helpfull to others aswell.
@Berretafreak: I have never not have a signal sofar in europe, but I'm sure there are places, even in europe, that do not provide a decent signal. Also I have a regular TomTom .
Loeder
The zinc ii does NOT show gps and does not have the traditional mgr. It says wireless.
BTW tt7 nav with na maps is available and works perfect.
I have tried some com cabs but they do nada.
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I have only a 300min plan and nothing more.
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great u r top man! worked 4 me
I've recently bought a used Diamond and I've never had the GPS working. I've tested it with Tomtom 7 and the HTC GPS Tool but it will not find any satellites. Calling the HTC Service helpdesk they told me there are probably no satellites above this part of my country. Eventually I got through to them and they accepted my phone for repairs.
Now then, wednesday a week ago UPS came to get my phone and brought it to Eurotwice in Belgium for repairs. So I was pretty excited that my phone was getting repaired. Yesterday however my phone was returned and when I tested it, there still was no satellite discovery at all.
On the repair form it says the failure was: GPS defect. So you would think if they acknowledge that it is broken, they'd fix it. Now on the form it says they charged me for three things (which all were free of charge though):
- Sub-Assy to 82H,GENERIC,Navi pre-assy w/ keycap
- Administration, analysis, repair, test/transport
- Cable,MURATA,MXHP34HP0590TB,PL
Is there anyone out there that knows what they actually did to repair my GPS Defect, and when I'm going to call them again on monday I can best tell them?
My guess is they replaces the touchwheel, hence there was a new tape and protector on it.. but what the cable means..
Edit:
Looking in the service manual I now know what parts they replaced:
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The Diamond/Touch Pro are known for horrible GPS performance. Does GPS Test find satellites but never actually connect?
Some very clever minds here on XDA were able to resolve this issue on the Touch Pro by using the GPS driver DLL files from the Blackstone. The downside? The files need to be cooked into a ROM, a CAB install doesn't work. Also, the ROM needs to be based on a 20xxx or higher ROM. The Diamond originally shipped with a 199xx ROM.
If your Diamond has HardSPL on it, check out the various GSM Diamond ROMs, find one with the updated drivers, and flash it. Your GPS should work just as good as the TyTN II.
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The Diamond/Touch Pro are known for horrible GPS performance. Does GPS Test find satellites but never actually connect?
Some very clever minds here on XDA were able to resolve this issue on the Touch Pro by using the GPS driver DLL files from the Blackstone. The downside? The files need to be cooked into a ROM, a CAB install doesn't work. Also, the ROM needs to be based on a 20xxx or higher ROM. The Diamond originally shipped with a 199xx ROM.
If your Diamond has HardSPL on it, check out the various GSM Diamond ROMs, find one with the updated drivers, and flash it. Your GPS should work just as good as the TyTN II.
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No unfortunately it doesn't actually find any satellite at all, so it doens't even have something to connect to..
Should I then still try flashing with new ROMs as I don't have HardSPL on it now, seeing they flashed it back to factory standards.
NotATreoFan said:
The Diamond/Touch Pro are known for horrible GPS performance. Does GPS Test find satellites but never actually connect?
Some very clever minds here on XDA were able to resolve this issue on the Touch Pro by using the GPS driver DLL files from the Blackstone. The downside? The files need to be cooked into a ROM, a CAB install doesn't work. Also, the ROM needs to be based on a 20xxx or higher ROM. The Diamond originally shipped with a 199xx ROM.
If your Diamond has HardSPL on it, check out the various GSM Diamond ROMs, find one with the updated drivers, and flash it. Your GPS should work just as good as the TyTN II.
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I've had my Diamond for a couple of days now I can safely say that, reception wise, it has been the best HTC phone, compared to the Trinity & the Cruise I have ever used. I would have never thought these phones were plagued as GPS reception misfits. Huh.... reception is great under bridges and the lag is so minimal that its silly to even talk about it. Well at least mine is.
I've been testing my GPS some more with the HTC GPS tool and you can log the messages. Now I was wondering if anyone knows anything about these and if they can see my problem in them. You never know:
This is what gets repeated time after time and it never changes:
Code:
$PSTIS,*61
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K,N*2C
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*1E
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K,N*2C
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*1E
Ensure A-GPS is disabled.
Why ? a - gps is good innit ...
No apparently it's not all that great. I've read everywhere on these forums to have it disabled which of course I did before posting here.
I have also problems to get a gps signal on my X1.
The HTC-GPS-Tool and also my offroad navigation software Glopus shows only this:
$PSTIS,*61
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K,N*2C
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*1E
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K,N*2C
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*1E
The X1 gps works fine since yesterday. I have done a hardware reset and tested the gps again with the same result. Could I do everything else or is it neccessary to repair the X1?
band27 said:
I've had my Diamond for a couple of days now I can safely say that, reception wise, it has been the best HTC phone, compared to the Trinity & the Cruise I have ever used. I would have never thought these phones were plagued as GPS reception misfits. Huh.... reception is great under bridges and the lag is so minimal that its silly to even talk about it. Well at least mine is.
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Here, Here My diamond is the best GPS Reciver i have had, It locks onto sats in less than 30secs with a warm start, and about 1m30sec from a cold start (after hard reset) lot better than my Artemis it takes about 5mins from a warm start and about 20mins from cold start
dannyoneill said:
Ensure A-GPS is disabled.
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Absolutely make sure this is disabled. Prior to this bit of knowledge, the signals would lock and unlock in 2 sec intervals. After disabling this misfit feature, everything was solid again.
And yes, there are tweaks built into some roms that chiefs are beginning to cook in to improve accuracy and dependability.. Exa
Example ROM BY: carburano
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469852
Also the choice of radio determines how quick one gets the signal. I toggle between: 1.08.25.20 & 1.09.25.23
Hello! I used my Diamond inflight (from cockpit B-737) using NAVGPSpro 4.5 its didnt work , but on the ground i can use all my GPS programms. I have tried to switch ON/OFF phone, soft reset, started all my programms but.....
Could someone help me please? Why Diamond dosent work inflight?
P.S. Glofiish X900 working well. And sorry for my english, i am from Russia
I am no expert, but are you maybe travelling too fast for the Diamond GPS to lock on?
You need to have an extra satellite fix for aviation software to give you your altitude.
But X900 working excellent. What are restriction to use Diamond GPS? I didnt find its. NAVGPSpro is special programm for aviation. And one more: sometimes i have had successful attempts.
Krillo said:
I am no expert, but are you maybe travelling too fast for the Diamond GPS to lock on?
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i'm gonna go with this answer, it sounds cooler.
I've tried Diamond inFlight using IGO8, TOMTOM7 also OZIExplorer and it worked fine. It takes some time to find satelites for the first time.
Possible that the heating elements in the windows are limiting the GPS reception? Do your 737s have the eyebrow windows?
tomnav said:
I've tried Diamond inFlight using IGO8, TOMTOM7 also OZIExplorer and it worked fine. It takes some time to find satelites for the first time.
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I am agree with you about first time but further attempts after several time unsuccessful. I can observe just 1 or 2 satellites not more
What version of radio do you have?
David Horn said:
Possible that the heating elements in the windows are limiting the GPS reception? Do your 737s have the eyebrow windows?
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1.May be but X900 working well.
2. No they are closed by panels
i was able to get the GPS Cycle Computer to work, but with no altitude measurement. top speed = 503 mph
tomtom 7 would not work. waited several minutes, no sat lock.
isnt this illegal??
radio communication is supposed to fk up the flight instruments n stuff.
if that was true then every osama fu*kstick wanna be would be bringing down planes just by turning on the gps. the fact is back in the 70's and 80's there was a problem with interference but the technology is better now so its not really a problem any more.
GPS is passive-recieve-only, its based on a bunch of satellites sending accurate timestamps to you for triangulation. So no, it won't **** up nav systems any more than listening to the radio.
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On the next picture, the altitude profile show some gap (i put some pink in the image): 6 500m to 3 500m in one second.
Those gap appear also on the map : the step on the red trace.
I've got no explaination for those gaps:
My flight was at 4 000m or my descend is stronger than the altitude profile show.
I'm not sure it is safe to trust the altitude given by the GPS in a plane.
screenshots from OziExplorer
phx said:
GPS is passive-recieve-only, its based on a bunch of satellites sending accurate timestamps to you for triangulation. So no, it won't **** up nav systems any more than listening to the radio.
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well i'll be done up the bum with a pole. you learn something new every day.
those graphs above are interesting.. did many people scream when you dropped 3000m in less than a second? lol
dieselboy said:
isnt this illegal??
radio communication is supposed to fk up the flight instruments n stuff.
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That's the common misconception.
It is illegal for passengers to leave on radio communication devices during a flight. However in most cases its harmless.
I remember reading that only a few frequencies which do interfere with aviation communication. and these frequencies are NOT currently being used by ANY mobile phone networks.
Haha, i do love it though when i play with my Diamond on the airplane while having it on flight mode, and people around me are like staring.... and thinking OMFG THAT DUDE IS A TERRORIST HE HAS HIS PHONE ON!!!!!!! I even had a old couple remind me that i have to turn off my phone.... haha very amusing.
Rom_un said:
On the next picture, the altitude profile show some gap (i put some pink in the image): 6 500m to 3 500m in one second.
Those gap appear also on the map : the step on the red trace.
I've got no explaination for those gaps:
My flight was at 4 000m or my descend is stronger than the altitude profile show.
I'm not sure it is safe to trust the altitude given by the GPS in a plane.
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Are those screenshots from NAVGPSpro?
I use Memory Map with the CAA 500mil chart, and it works fine from the small cockpit of my Jabiru.