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Applications start up slow

Had a Vario III for 2 weeks now - fantastic device (upgraded from Universal, completely free!). Seem to have a problem with some applications starting really really slowly.
First noticed with TomTom 6, installed to main, maps on 2gb SD (SanDisk Ultra II), shows the splash screen for 5 minutes - then TomTom starts and it's fine. Thought it may be it was something to do with GPS turning on, but Google Maps and GPS Photo works fine.
Now noticed that the same thing happens with Word and HTC Voice Recorder - they both take about 5mins to start up - I just see the title screen.
Anyone got the same kind of problem or know what causes it?
Thanks
*** Also happens with Excel, Powerpoint, Notes, pPod seems slow too. All other apps work fine

I haven't this issue at all. You may want to back up your device using Sprite or SPB Backup and then hard reset.
After the hard reset, you can restore all of your files to see if that makes it any better.
Also, kudos to you for having the patience to wait 5 minutes for an app to start... I have the patience to wait...around 10 seconds.

Sometimes, they do start straight away, usually after a soft reset, but then when they are run again they take ages.
Though I might have to do a HR - just got it all setup how I like it! Maybe it's some other app caused the problem - I did install quite a bit on it.
I'll reset and see how it goes.
Thanks for reply.

Hard reset, reinstalled, all works fine now. TomTom startup <10 secs.

Kaisers slow down a week or two after flashing

Hey guys
I was wondering, I've noticed that no matter which ROM I flash onto my kaiser, after a couple of weeks it slows down tonnes, it gets really really bad interface lag and all, but after a flash it is speedy and responsive. I was wondering to what extent having lots of SMSs stored and call logs might effect this but it seems in my mind that it should be negligible.
Is this a known bug with a fix or do I just need to reflash every week?
Thanks guys
Rich

Septastrum said:
Hey guys
I was wondering, I've noticed that no matter which ROM I flash onto my kaiser, after a couple of weeks it slows down tonnes, it gets really really bad interface lag and all, but after a flash it is speedy and responsive. I was wondering to what extent having lots of SMSs stored and call logs might effect this but it seems in my mind that it should be negligible.
Is this a known bug with a fix or do I just need to reflash every week?
Thanks guys
Rich
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What Hard SPL version are you using?
You should be using Hard SPL 3.* for WM6.1 ROMs.
Ta
Dave

3.29 ... it's confusing
On the newest dk4 though, whatever that is. Might flash to DK5 later today if I have the willpower lol.
My guess is theres some service trying to do something with the sms messages like indexing and when you have 500 messages it just uses so much system resources everything slows down.
That would explain why when you type to search for a text the results are almost instant. But really the feature isn't that good to justify it being this slow.

You running it with zero installed apps? I'd guess something is misbehaving.
I would assume if you hard reset, the problem completely goes away? I can't imagine it being fixed by flashing.
My Tilt has its fits.. Sometimes it moves very slow and a reset may or may not mostly fix it, other times it just blazes with zero lag. If I look in MemMaid, I see no CPU hogs, ram is reasonable, etc.. Static 6M pagepool... Oh well.
A soft reset almost always fixes it going slow for me. I've never hard reset, certainly not reflashed to get it back up to norm.

Hard reset doesn't really speed it up, but return to m'facturer settings does. Unless that is a hard reset lol. Basically - turning on/off doesn't speed up but holding down softkeys at bootup and clearing off data like you do when you flash does speed it up.
I'm not running it with 0 aps though, I get the bundled apps with the roms. But really its never really mattered which ROM it is.
After deleting a few hundred messages manually, it's sped up dramatically, so I'm going to push the boat out and guess it is actually the SMSs that is slowing it down.

Well, there are several things that will help slow the phone down.
sms messages
lengthy call logs
Temporary internet files
programs that are not totally closed when you close them (check out task manager or battery status)
Things like this slow it down. Oh and a hard reset takes it back to factory.

ChumleyEX said:
Well, there are several things that will help slow the phone down.
sms messages
lengthy call logs
Temporary internet files
programs that are not totally closed when you close them (check out task manager or battery status)
Things like this slow it down. Oh and a hard reset takes it back to factory.
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<pedantic>Hard reset resets it back to the ROM defaults. Factory isn't quite the right word, since he's using a cooked rom.</pedantic>

It seems weird that just 'more data' will slow things down. I mean if you have a PC with a data hard disk, it shouldn't matter whether it has 1gb of files or 500gb of files, the PC should still run just as fast for everything except the tasks which must directly deal with the files i.e. search / defragmentation and that kind of thing.
I'll just remember to delete my SMS messages frequently now, I guess. Seems a shame since the Nokia N95 has no problems holding hundreds and this is supposed to be a superior phone.

Septastrum said:
It seems weird that just 'more data' will slow things down. I mean if you have a PC with a data hard disk, it shouldn't matter whether it has 1gb of files or 500gb of files, the PC should still run just as fast for everything except the tasks which must directly deal with the files i.e. search / defragmentation and that kind of thing.
I'll just remember to delete my SMS messages frequently now, I guess. Seems a shame since the Nokia N95 has no problems holding hundreds and this is supposed to be a superior phone.
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There must be some behind-the-scenes processing going on with messages, and other data -- perhaps the phone has to sort them -- who knows?
Anyway when I get a message (which isn't too often) I delete it right away -- and if I need to keep it as a note or a reminder then I'll type it in as a note or as a task.
Which reminds me -- how come we don't have a context menu to turn a SMS or MMS into a new contact, note, task or calendar item??

I can confirm the SMS theory. I think threaded SMS are particularly responsible for slowing down the device. I basically have one person i talk to mostly, which has a very very long threaded sms (basically weeks of SMS in one thread) and my device got very slow and unresponsive as well. This becomes particularly clear when you try to WRITE a SMS! Typing lags, the menu comes up slowly etc. So i deleted the sms thread (left the threads to other ppl which contained like 3-4 msgs each) and it was fine!
I think the phone loads the WHOLE sms, even the parts it doesnt show and that slows things down.

'Tasks' is evil: Even soft reset can't get rid of it, in Kaiser

After 9 months of pain-free PDAing, today my Vario iii hangs every time I try to access the Tasks (yes, the Outlook tasks)
It will go into Tasks OK, but you can't enter text for a new task, and it's very slow when viewing existing tasks.
When I try to shut the program down from within itself it hangs and needs a soft reset.
Trying to force it shut from Running Programs has no effect - it says Tasks will not close and offers to end program, but it stays open.
After a soft reset, Tasks is still running even though I haven't launched it.
The PDA is generally a bit slow at the moment, even when no programs are running.
Haven't changed anything - the last few significant things I have done are a backup to my PC this morning, then uninstalling F-Secure antivirus (I did that after getting fed up of subscription reminder messages. It expired 3 months ago)
I guess a hard reset would do the trick but I want to avoid that if possible.
Any thoughts please? Thank you.

many problems with diamond.

ok so i'm going to try and write down everything that is going wrong with my phone right now.
when i boot it up, touchflo will not start, i just see calender and contacts on the bottom. if i click on contacts, it takes a while to load, then just says enter a name on the top. with no list of my contacts.
i can not receive or send calls. i just had a friend try to call me and the middle round button and the send button blink, but no screen pops up saying i have a call. i try to press send and nothing happens.
i can barely send a text message, it takes about 10 minutes for the text message to load if it even loads. can't browse the internet.
calender works fine, google maps works fine, small games work fine, like teeter. age of empires will not load though. messenger will not load.
i can browse my programs though and go into file explorer.
activesync is giving me a message when i try to connect saying
"Activesync cannot connect ot the windows mobile powered device. to troubleshoot the problem, click ok."
the scan after says this
Unable to establish a connection between the PC and the device. Get up-to-date solutions to common connection problems. Please click the following link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=65257
when i was drunk and camping on the weekend my phone gave me a message saying it could not start because it was not properly turned off the last time and said i would have to press the volume button to restart it, which i didn't do cause i didn't want to lose my contacts.
has anyone else had these problems? any way to fix it? or am i just going to have to do a hard reset?
also i'm not sure if the Pim Backup v2.8 works for the diamond? i'm in there reading right now.

another problem i noticed is that when loaded a text message, if its the first text i've gotten from a number it loads really fast, but when i load one from someone that i've communicated with for a while, it takes forever to load if it does. most times it just doesnt load and freezes for a bit.

I think we need some more information. Maybe if you answer these questions, someone can help you, before you'll have to hard reset..
The ROM version?
The TF3D version?
What software, like lockers, screen rotators, key mappers, task managers, battery savers etc. are running in the background (as a service)?
What does Settings - System - Memory say about free program memory?
Anyway, PIM Backup works fine on the Diamond. Good luck!

Touch Flo not Loading

I've had my Sprint Touch Diamond pretty much as soon as they came out so in a couple of months it will be 1 year old. I've never really had that many issues until now.....
In the past month I have had to reset (ie return phone back to how it was when originally delivered) my phone 4 times !! And in every instance it's been because Touch Flo refuses to load.....
At first I thought it was because I was installing loads of [email protected] little applications etc, but I think it might be down to Microsoft my phone beta...... Although the program has helped me retrieve pretty much everything I needed to retrieve after each reset, it doesn't take long before it fails to sync and everything seems to go bad again.
Last night I tried un-installing the myphone beta app, and due to how slow everything runs when touch flo refuses to load I had to leave it over night...... By the time i got up in the morning it was un-installed and Touch Flo was running....
I re-booted my phone mid-morning today, and although Touch flo took around 5mins to load it did at least load, albeit with the following message...
cannot load \windows\myphoneruntime.exe which suggests it didn't fully install properly..... Anyway I decided to install a registry editor and see if i could find any rogue entries but I couldn't use the reg editor like i would on Windows XP for instance and so drew a blank.
To try and un-install my phone beta properly, I re-installed it and synced which went without a hitch. Then I rebooted my phone and again Touch Flo does not run.... So I'm almost certain something in this My Phone beta is a problem which is probably why its still in beta....
Just wondered if anyone else had similar problems / Issue's? And also if anyone can give me advice regarding the reg editor......
Thanks in advance....

Never had that problem with the TouchFlo 3D. although it does seem to be a bit slow at times. Have you tried just...blowing your phone, and reloading the stock sprint ROM? maybe just starting over fresh?

Re-instating the stock Sprint ROM is what I've had to do 4 times this month. Not 100% sure why I keep getting the issue back, but it does seem to be Microsft myphone Beta that is a constant link. Maybe I need to reset device 1 last time and manually re-instate contacts etc etc etc

It’s a simple calendar plugin that adds a tab to the TouchFlo 3D interface.
This is not a Cab Installation , so you will have to use transfer the files to your device via Active Sync / Mobile Device Center or using a File Explorer.
rajas
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It’s a simple calendar plugin that adds a tab to the TouchFlo 3D interface.
This is not a Cab Installation , so you will have to use transfer the files to your device via Active Sync / Mobile Device Center or using a File Explorer.
rajas
now load touch flo

same problem
I had a similar experience a few days ago. It seems I tried to sync via My Phone beta and then canceled it midway. After a few soft resets and wondering what was going on, I let My Phone sync again completely. After that everything was back up to speed but I uninstalled the beta ASAP. I was pretty happy with it but this is aggravating.

Same problem here!
In addition to this, The antenna shows no service (although service is active and I can make calls) and the phone's GUI is very slow to react to any action.
I have an old Juicy ROM (from last Fall) which I liked very much for its stability. I did install and run the beta application of geocaching.com for windows mobile and now TouchFlo won't start anymore no matter what I do to restart my phone.
I will have to back up everything and reinstall a new ROM hoping that this will fix the problem.
If anyone has an idea on how to fix this, let us know
[update]
The phone could not connect to ActiveSync and thus I was unable to flash a new ROM.
In order to resolve the issue, I cleared the storage (but left the internal storage intact) and rebooted. The phone was just fine after this, but I took the opportunity to install the latest Mighty ROM.
cheers.

Having the same problem with mine.... I had the original Sprint ROM on it when it started happening.
I initially tried a clear/erase everything from the OS (hard reset?) and that didn't help.
I tried updating it with the latest official ROM from Sprint/HTC. No dice.
Funny thing is if I wait like 12+ hours after turning it on, sometimes Touch Flo finally loads.
Other issues ive noticed while its acting like this is, opera crashes on load, active sync connects but wont sync contacts, and the battery life seems about half of what it normally is.
Short of the story is I am having Sprint send me a replacement.

I had the same problem and solved it by flashing mightyrom couldn't connect to activesync either so i had to hold power down volume and reset switch and do the flash from that coloured screen. i think it has something to do with a memory flaw and wipeing everything out solves it.