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What size microSD cards ?

Hi all.
Just want to see what everyone is using as in size and revision.
Why i ask is HTC said ( to me anyway ) that it only takes up to 2GB microSD. On the other hand iv read on other pages they can take the microSDHC cards as well and larger than 2GB so some feedback will be cool before i go spend cash.
Thanks ahead
me

What is microSDHC?
How is it different from normal microSD

I've just bought a 4gb microsdhc card for my s730 and it's perfectly working.
(microsdhc is the new version of the microsdhc card which allow capacity over 2gb)

My 2 GB card (Sandisk Ultra II) is that fast...
write 760.68 kB/s
read 1976.20 kB/s
Hows your SDHC? (Use SKTools for benchmark)

yeap
yeap the microSDHC is a newer version of the microSD card. bigger capacity, also refered to as Rev 2 microSD.
Cool, looks like ill go for a 4GB microSDHC card
thanks...

I have a 6Gb one in mine works fine was £36.99 from PLAY.com, free delivery + Quidco points
NoNco said:
yeap the microSDHC is a newer version of the microSD card. bigger capacity, also refered to as Rev 2 microSD.
Cool, looks like ill go for a 4GB microSDHC card
thanks...
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I'm using the 8 GB från SanDisk, and it works just fine.

I have a 6gb sdhc works without a problem.
The phone should take up to 8gb and maybe 10 before it will need a firmware update to read it.
HTC probably has only tested a 2gb.

4GB SanDisk from play.com, £17.99
Pack included a microSD>full size SD adaptor* AND USB adapter for PC!
* not micro>mini>SD as with some cards

nonco said:
hi all.
Just want to see what everyone is using as in size and revision.
Why i ask is htc said ( to me anyway ) that it only takes up to 2gb microsd. On the other hand iv read on other pages they can take the microsdhc cards as well and larger than 2gb so some feedback will be cool before i go spend cash.
Thanks ahead
me
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well i had 2gb .......then i replace with a 4gb but didnt read the size of the 4gb and it went in as 2 storage card .....so what i did is put the 4gb in hard reset as new and the card read as a 4gb.....so much better....... I instaill everything to my card

SanDisk 8Gb class 4
Working perfect since almost a year.

I'm using a SanDisk 8gb microSDHC for about 3 months now and no issues!

sdhc 8Gb clas 6 wmtorent need storage )

Memory card advice wanted

Hi,
I've just received my TyTn II and am interested in getting a memory card for it.
It takes Micro SD but what is the max size that it/WM6 will work with?
Also, what is Micro SDHC? and can I use it?
I've seen a 2GB MicroSD card for £7.55 del. but I probably want a bigger card.
I intend using it for tomtom - photos - some games and apps and of course data file storage.
TIA
Bryan

I picked up a SanDisk 8GB via Amazon for under $70 USD (minus shipping).
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1204123335&sr=8-1

I have a San Disk 8gig in mine and it's great.
Cheers, Paul

Thanks for the quick replies,
As you are using 8GB cards they must be MicroSDHC? AFAIK MicroSD cards that hold 4GB or greater are all MicroSDHC.
Any chance you can pop your card and see?

The 8Gb SanDisk that I ordered is MicroSDHC (a.k.a. 2.0).

The HC stands for High Capacity and it is indeed for cards above 4 GB.
The device for the memory card has to be HC capable and lucky for us, our Kaiser is
Every micro sd card also has a class (2, 4 or 6 I believe). The higher the number, the better transfer rates (and response time), but also the bigger the cost.
I currently have a 6 GB (class 4) micro SD card. I'm going to wait a while to buy a new one until cards with about 16 GB or 32 GB (or something like that) of memory come around.

I'm also running the sandisk 8gb SDHC card. Its speedy and
works flawlessly. I got it on amazon for about 80 USD
The only thing i could recommend after having a card this big
is a good card exporting program on your phone so not
limited by activesync

Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
Hopefully a faster variant too..
Is it possible to connect the phone to a PC and have it recognised as a large memory stick? I know some phones do and then you can just explore them like a disc drive.
I will setup activesync at home for normal installation etc. but wondered if I could access the SD card whilst in phone from the PC/USB a la memory stick whilst at work.

yes, you can access the SD card like it's a memory stick by exploring. However, the transfer rate isn't as good as a USB connection with a stick. The 8GB SanDisk comes with a USB reader so that the card can actually be used in the reader just like a stick. Fastest transfer rate I've ever gotten with my phone

I'm using an 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC.
Works great!

I have a 8gb and it is fine.. but if you wait until next month you can pick up a 12gb and really have some storage space.

'im using a sandisk 6GB MicroSDHC for about 50canadian$

WebAgents said:
Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
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Talk about a deal i just purchased two 8gb for $70 because they were used and only came with one adapter.

I got my 8 gb sandisk sdhc card on ebay - another place to look for a great deal. Just be careful about the track record of the seller. I love the 8 gb card, but will be looking for a 16 gb card when they come out.

i saw the 16GB ones out anyone tried if it will work with the kaiser???

I run a Kingston 8GB SDHC in mine without problems (brought it over from my SDHC enabled Orbit), which I bought for £25 about 8 months ago from mobymemory. Never had any problems with it at all.

would a 16GB SDHC memory card work for TYTNII?

Thinking of buying this 16GB SDHC memory card.
http://www.meritline.com/kingston-16gb-sdhc20-class4-sd-card.html
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.a...m=206812522&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=15890
But I dont wanna throw away money..so..
is the TYTNII a SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) device? (if so then it will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB))?
Does anyone know if this works with TYTNII (pratically, not theoretically)?
Has anyone used this or the 12GB one?
Thanks
some info on it:
Compatibility with SDHC 16GB: 16GB SDHC are designed for devices that are compatible with the SDHC 2.0 specifications. The SDHC logo on the packaging is to ensure compatibility. Please check with your device manufacturer for their current/future supported SDHC devices.
SDHC works differently then standard SD cards, this new format is not backwards compatible with legacy SD format host devices.
Kingston Technology's Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) memory cards are fully compliant with the new SD Association specification version 2.00. They are a new performance class of SD memory cards designed to meet the storage demands of high-quality digital still and video cameras and other high-resolution image recording devices.
-Remember that standard host devices must call out support for SDHC in order to be compatible with SDHC Cards (>4GB). Look for the logo!
-SD (ver. 1.0, 1.1) devices will not recognize SDHC cards (>4GB).
Features/benefits:
Compliant: with the SD Card Association specification version 2.00
Secure: built-in write-protect switch prevents accidental data loss
Compatible: with SDHC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers
File Format: FAT 32
Simple: as easy as plug-and-play
Specifications:
Capacities: 16GB
Dimensions: 0.94" x 1.25" x 0.08" (24mm x 32mm x 2.1mm)
Speed Class Rating:
--Class 2: 2MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 4: 4MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
--Class 6: 6MB/sec. guaranteed minimum data transfer rate
Operating Temperature: -13°F to 185°F(-25°C to 85°C)
Storage Temperature: -40°F to 185°F(-40°C to 85°C)
Voltage: 3.3V

The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card

While I don't know about the SD version on the Kaiser, I can tell you it reads 8GB SDHC cards. So if your 1.0, 1.1 versions only recognize under 4GB then the Kaiser is obviously using a later version.
Not sure on what you are going to pay for that size card... you can get an 8GB for under $50 which might be a smarter move until the others come down in price.

dang thats the price of my tilt
btw our phone support up to 32gb

ChefChaudart said:
The problem is how to fit it in your Kaiser ?
Cause this is not a micro SDHC card
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LOL good point, i didn't even follow the link to see that. I thought that SDHC was only micro cards...but then again I don't own any other devices that use these so i never researched them.
So, to the OP the size should work...but make sure you get a micro!

the card u posted in ur link will NOT work becase it doesnt suppot SDHC...u just simply cant put it inside ur phone...

It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).

bluemamba said:
It does Fit into the phone, what you see in the link is the exterior part of it. The smaller card is in the inside (fits underneath the one shown).
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Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here

Audio said:
Actually, the links provided are SD cards, not Micro SD. The picture is not a Micro SD to SD converter, it's just an SD card. Micro SD to SD converters do not show the size of the card on them
So in conclusion, no, the product(s) in the links you provided will not fit in the kaiser, and therefore will not work. However here in the UK, we can expect to see 16GB Micro SDHC on the 31st May. See here
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Sorry My bad then..
Anyway now that thats sorrted out, my question still stands

Memory limit
One of HTC tech support guys basically told me that if the microSDHC card says SDHC that the Kaiser (or the Tilt he was referring to seeing as I was talking to him about my phone) will support it...and I believe he mentioned up to at least 128gb memory capacity or something. One other poster in this thread mentioned 32gb...
Now for reality, at the time of my purchase of the Tilt Nov 2008, Sandisk was the first to make 8gb microSDHC (okay others announced it too), and the time from their announcement of 8gb being put on their website at $139.99 in Nov 2007 or so.....to the availability on amazon in roughly January or Feb 2008 at 139.99....to the current amazon price of roughly in the $50 range by March/April 2008.....to the realization that very few other memory manufacturers have released 8gb microSDHC cards.......makes one think that by the time any amazing company makes anything substantially bigger than 8gb, AND releases it to market at a price I'm willing to pay for.......By that time...I and probably many of us, will have bought a newer phone with proper drivers...that the limit of memory size of microSDHC for the kaiser will be a memory.
In others words, 8gb microSDHC is the largest you will find today (most likely), and the phone will handle much more than that in its product lifetime. Buy with confidence that your kaiser in April 2008 can handle any microSDHC product available in April 2008.
Hope this helped.

thanks nicely put

come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.

kkkkevinkim said:
come on dude you put up a link for an sdhc memory card you need a MICRO SDHC MEMORY CARD. Also I thought all th Tytn II could use the high capicity cards...are you sure you don't have a TYtn-one.
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This is true, by this thread is 6 months old also . Have a look at the date!

I'm buying the 8 GB MicroSDHC tomorrow. My 2 GB is already completely full!!

The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.

3waygeek said:
The SanDisk 16GB microSDHC works just fine in the Tytn II -- I've been using one for about a week now. I don't notice any speed difference between it and my old class 4 8GB card.
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That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?

I live near a Microcenter
so the 8G Microcenter version went on sale for 34 Bucks..thats right! Now the SANDISK 8G is a little bit more expensive but they are the same class SDs. I have the Microcenter version running right now in my Tilt with only 2Gs left...I'll probably try and get the SANDISK 16G but I might even wait to see if Microcenter comes out with their own 16G which generally is cheaper than Sandisks.

MACkjam said:
That sounds awesome!!! I haven't seen the 16gb ones yet. How much do they go for?
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I've seen them in the range of US $75-100. I paid $98 for mine -- they were the only US supplier I could find that had them in stock.

Hardware Compatability to microSDXC

I been reading up a lil bit on this since the extended capacity sounds incredible, especially for HD2 users who have no real built in space.
and Wikipedia says SDHC compatible devices can use sdxc with UHS104 speeds, but not with the newer sd 4.0 specification.
Will the HD2 be capable of SD 4.0 with a firmware update or is this solely a hardware incompatability?

Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.

hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?

le_da said:
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
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hello
new info updated ? someone have tested ?

malex1 said:
Hardware in HD2 will not accept it.
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Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?

The HD2 can only handle up to a 32GB SD card. whether that would be SDXC or SDHC I'm pretty sure that wouldn't matter.

andyfoster said:
Well, unless installing WP 7.5 changes the hardware, that's bollox.
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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Good
Recognizes the HTC HD2 if micro sd 64 gb and I have a dual boot and I have not given me any problems
To be recognized only be formatted in FAT32
regards

I ordered a 64GB micro-SDXC card from amazon.co.uk a week ago for GBP45.39 (found on HotUkdeals). Arrived today (was listed as "usually despatched within 1 - 4 weeks"), h2testw confirms capacity, and works fine in my HD2 running WM6.5 (Energy ROM), which shows capacity as 60906MB.

I don't understand why so many jump in saying a 64gb card wouldn't work when they obviously haven't tried. i would assume that it work fine as long as its formatted fat32... Any android phone should accept 64gb cards as well. the only difference between sdhc & sdxc is the formatting Im pretty sure. sdxc is formatted exFat of something like that, but its easy enough to reformat anyway you'd like with a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium

I have the Sandisk 64GB microSDXC Class 6 and it just works as a 32GB Samsung Class 10. The Sandisk is just a little bit slower in Benchmarks but in my phone I can't feel any difference; besides of the double of space. ;-)

SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB works
I installed the Tytung ICS build on a SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB.
Works fine! Just needs to be farmatted in Fat32

andyfoster said:
Does anyone know if a HD2 running WM6.5 supports 64GB microSDXC cards? As in has anyone tried it?
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YES you absolutely can run a 64GB microSDXC in an HD2. At least I can verify that with WM6.5.5. I am using the SanDisk 64GB class 10 micro SDXC card in my HD2. The phone does read the full 64GB and can access it all. You do have to reformat it first as it is in exFAT which can't be read. It needs to be formatted in FAT32. The kicker with that if you try to format in your PC, MS has deemed that FAT32 is 32 GB max and if you use the inbuilt format in any version of Windows, it will only format it in exFAT or NTFS. I also tried using a program called SDFormatter but it would not allow me to format in FAT32 either. There is a way to do it from a DOS command but... I ended up using EaseUS Partion Master Home Edition, which is a free program. It worked a charm, and was very fast as well, Then I xxcopy'ed my SD card contents onto the new 64GB card and installed it in my phone. Both my WM 6.5.5 and my SD Android 2.2 are working perfectly, though the Android may be just a bit slower now and then. Both my 32GB and my 64GB are class 10s. I use XXcopy to keep a backup of my SD card on my computer, just in case. I update the backup every couple weeks or if I have updated anything significantly (which seems to be all the time with Android apps). I am running Core Cell Evo v4.1 and CoreDroid v.08. Here are the links to Partition Master http://www.partition-tool.com/download.htm and XXcopy http://www.xxcopy.com/xcpydnld.htm
Here is a screenshot from my HD2 when it was booted into Android.

So very cool, and now my HD2 in both WM 6.5 and Android modes thanks you

128 GB ? OK, will be my next try, then ! :laugh:
I just received my SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A 64 GB micro SD XC card and been using it for three days now.
To make sure it will work flawlessly, just do the following :
- Use the phone formatting tool (it will format the card in FAT32)
- When restoring your data to the card, don't overwrite the "Application Data" folder nor the "EncFiltLog.menc" file that will have been put on the card root after formatting.
- Check it's Ok by launching an SD android ROM. If you can browse the memory card's contents, you win. Else, just try again from the beginning ! :laugh:
Anyway, both the HD2 and Windows Mobile are fully SD XC compatible, at least up to 64 GB (really NEED to test for 128 GB now ! ), so don't trust people saying they're not !

maybe you can try to partition the SD in multiple partitions of 32GB each... so you can easily use a fat32 file system.
just one question..do is possible to use a 64gb ntfs? Because my SanDisk 32gb class 10 uhs1 is formatted using NTFS and works really well, so I think you could be able to use a 64GB NTFS formatted

I don't think so.
Windows mobile doesn't recognize NTFS (should have been an add-on, if only developpers hadn't stopped producing for this platform), and Android is Linux (Debian) based, so would rather use ext2 / ext3, and of course, FAT and FAT32, that fortunately stay the common links between all worlds...
Edit : Wait, is your card really NTFS formatted ? Windows should automatically choose FAT32 when formatting up to these sizes. I hadn't heard of Windows Mobile being able to read it. It can't read an USB disk in NTFS from Cotulla or Zeno Sloim USB host driver, for instance.
I even tried to format EXFAT32 on my HD2, with no luck. So FAT 32 only, but din't lost room in the process of formatting 64 GB in FAT32. My 32 GB card was almost full, and I earned a full 32 GB storage, so there's no visible cluster waste.
It's even much faster than the old 32 GB card (I bought one of the first that came available form Sandisk), despite the larger volume and allocation tables.
Highly recommended upgrade for people lacking room... It's totally stable, fast and reliable.
Now your idea to format in 2 chunks is good too. Anyway, Windows Mobile could manage them, so why not ? Maybe to be tried when 128 GB cards will become available !

Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?

DoubleT34 said:
Can i ask you something? I want to buy a new micro sd for my HD2 EU 512 but i read there is compatibility promlem for UHS. Can i use this card "Sandisk 32GB Android Ultra Micro Class 10 SDSDQUA-032G-U46A" with HD2?
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Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.

Suhaib10 said:
Yes most likely should work since i have the same looking one.
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Thanks for reply.

I have the same looking one, but 64 GB class 10 and it works a breeze on the HD2, either under Windows Mobile 6.5.x and Android.

[Caution] Kingston 32GB microsd cards

I have seen this question asked like 1000 times in various forms like
Android doesn't work on 32GB kingston card!
microsd card corrupt?
32GB kingston microsd legit?
Here is the answer for all of them.
Please do not buy Microsd cards from Ebay...there are only a number of companies which succeeded in making 32GB microsd cards. AND KINGSTON IS NOT ONE OF THEM nor those chinese brands which are available on ebay.
yes Kingston doesn't make 32GB microsd cards.
http://www.kingston.com/flash/sdhc_micro.asp
so be wise and do your research before buying a microSD card!!
EDIT: Kingston UK do make 32GB microSDHC cards. sorry for the confusion. But be careful anyways because there are duplicate ones out there as well!

I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i though that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??

Kingston does not make class 6 microsd... they only make class 4. If it says class 6, then it's probably fake. It may still be 32gb, but it might be a cheap one or defective on that they are selling as kingston. I have a class 4 kingston 32gb that works fine in my hd2.

Son of a *****... I just ordered one from ebay and it should be arriving today... guess I will find out whether it works or not after work .. and of all listings, it was just a pic of the card itself and the damn thing said no returns... looked pretty shady but i couldnt resist 54.99 with shipping..
EDIT: after seeing the date which the OP posted this.. Im being a little more optimistic.. cross your fingers

Here this might be helpful to you.
Code:
df /dev/mnt/sdcard
File system: FAT32 (0x0c)
Used space: 16.0 KB (16,384 bytes)
Free space: 29.8 GB (32,073,891,840 bytes)
The data below is the actual IOPs from System (USB: Standard-A) to Device (USB: Micro-B) via USB (USB 2.0/SD 2.0). I am not using any type of card reader for this test as we only want the actual data rate of the card itself natively while its mounted in the device.
Subject: Kingston 32GB Class 4 (4MB/s) microSDHC.
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|0 Fill = 0x00)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+11.72+13.11=37.9/3=12.63
Write [MB/s]: 4.080+3.339+1.592=9.011/3=3.00
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|1 Fill = 0xFF)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+13.10+11.61=37.78/3=12.59
Write [MB/s]: 3.659+2.618+3.607=9.884/3=3.30
Mode: Low level R+W+V initialization
Data volume: 30588MBytes
Patterns: 18 sets, 8 of "walking one", 8 of "walking zero", 55h, AAh
Writing speed [03:24:28]: 2.49 MByte/s
Reading speed [00:44:20]: 11.5 MByte/s
Burst write: 4.0+4.0+4.0=4.0 MB/s
Burst read: 10.0+9.0+9.0=9.33 MB/s

Same problem. Looks like I got a knock off 32GB Kingston microsd class 4 from eBay. I can partition it into fat32 and ext2/3 but when I try to format the ext2/3 partition, it won't mount. If I only create a single partition either fat32 or ext2/3, it mounts and works fine. I'd stay away from knock off microsd's!

yeah mine was a knockoff too :/