Did I just brick my Boss' 750? Help needed - Palm Treo 750 ROM Development

So, in an earlier post I had asked about downgrading to WM5 from AT&T WM6because my bossman lost all his beloved Windows Live capabilities.
I grabbed a Congular WM5 ROM, from a link here, did the image load from SD.
It said to me Update Complete, Update Successful, but would not boot to the OS. It would simply hang at the PALM splash screen with the grey indicator bar running 99% of the way at the bottom, then hanging.
This did not please me.
So I then started messing around with the available WM6 ROMs, like the AT&T SD install, and the ROW updater renamed from CHEEIMG_FW to just CHEEIMG to load from SD, all to no avail. Again it is just hanging at the PALM splash screen with the OS load bar hanging at about 99% completion.
I let it sit for about an hour, and it just hangs...
I am guessing it is not bricked, due to the fact that I can still get to the bootloader screen and load an image successfully... however it goes no further than that.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. And I would be willing to name my first born after the person who can tell me how to resolve this.

look for a new job...

On Palm's support page they have a recovery tool - see http://www.palm.com/au/support/treo750/downloads/wm6update.html .
Maybe this will help you keep your job!
I upgraded using the Telstra version and had no issues except for not being able to run iGO My Way 2006.
Cheers

renamed from CHEEIMG_FW to just CHEEIMG to load from SD
Just to verify, You should rename to "CHEEIMG.nbh" then load........

unkabuzz said:
renamed from CHEEIMG_FW to just CHEEIMG to load from SD
Just to verify, You should rename to "CHEEIMG.nbh" then load........
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Make sure your file explorer shows file extensions to do so...

Also, there is an install for Live on WM6 available for download. I had posted the file in another thread - you can find it by searching. Also, if you search the entire site, there is at least one lengthy thread devoted to the various releases of Windows Live for Mobile. This should have been the last reason for your boss to want to downgrade to the earlier WM5 version.

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Just upgraded to WM5

Hey guys, before anything please let me thank you for this amazing site. You have made a complete n00b to a power-user in 2 days flat. Please do allow me to tell you my story. 2 Days ago I got this thing called O2 XDA IIs (HTC Blueangel) and I got it for around 300US$ (Unlocked/New) was not so fond of Windows devices so intended to sell it off asap and get some other phone, was just doing a little R&D on the net to see what all is available for this thing. When I came across to your site, here's when I got so intregued by the capabilities of this thing.
First I intalled the latest ROM for my device, after getting little confidence I installed WM5 with my fingers crossed. Its all done now but have a few things to ask you guys.
1. When you mentioned about the EXTROM you said that you'll have to copy the files on the StorageCard\ExtRom when all I did was copy nk.nbf into the folder called WM5_Pack_V3 and ran the installer. I did run the batch file to get the oper_code from the DeviceData file. It was all done, I was really scared but now am worried did I do the right thing?
The Device Information TAB shows
ROM Version : 5.03.02WWE
ROM Date : 03/02/05
Radio Version : 1.12.00
Protocol Ver : 1337.42
ExtRom Ver : TuMa v1.3
2. It took me long enough to install this what all tweaks should I do to it so that it stays at the maximum bug-free current stage. (Hope you get me)
3. I need the starting screen to display something other then those scary 3 colored lines
Some things that I noticed after upgrading:
1. WM5 It's a little slow, but definately much better looking and show-off value.
2. I have a Wi-Fi enabled ADSL router at home by which I connect the O2 and other devices its working fine on.
Any help/suggestions/comments are welcome.
A brief intro for me would be have worked as a beta tester for many symbian application providers, was a complete S60 geek and am majorly into bikes & bike photography
Nothing said yet?
Im not sure I understand that whole Extrom deal, but what I can say is that the files that were in the extrom folder inside the upgrade pack must be put in the storage card in the same folder, but that is only if you want MMS and have a camera, if not, then there is nothing to do, unless you edit the Cfg.txt to load all your apps and settings after a hard reset. I guess that if you are able to use the device, you did everything ok as far as the flashing goes. it is a little slow, but its come a long way from the first versions, those were slow as hell, thanks to Mamaich and Tuatara and everyone else this version is running great!
as for the 3 color bar start up screen, there is nothing you can do about it...
Yeah I really forgot to thank Mamaich and Tuatara for their awesome work, now I am really scared as I dont like the slow response and am unable to downgrade. ActiveSync shuts down whenever I try to run the MaUpgradenoID.exe file activesync stops and it is giving errors in connecting, gets DC frequently. And moreover the Manufacturer supplied upgrade is also not working it gives a CountryCode error. Am really confused and scared now what to do?
Well I did not get any help but with loads of tinkering I got the thing done, I wanted to know why was WM5 so slow, otherwise the interface is loads better then the current CE I am using.
I have the Cingular version SX66 Blue Angel. I was able to update it without any problems. Usually speed is very different with those who flush the registry and with those who don't. Make sure you flush your registry after you completed the update.
Mine is faster and way more stable than the other version I had on it. Remember to follow all instructions exactly. if there is a link you need to check and make sure you do the format, change the ram size on the device, then upgrade.
There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?
manav said:
There are no instructions on how to flush the registry can you enlighten me on this?
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During the flashing process, the wiki instructs the user to do a hard reset
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_HardReset
You should answer NO, YES, YES to the boot questions.
Hmm yeah, I did do that. And just am in the process of downgrading from the buggy WM5. It doesn't work out for me.
and THAT'S where I got problems!
in the manual, it says I have to download my latest favorite ROM version, and FROM that file i should copy the nk.nbf the "DOWNGRADE TO WM2003SE" folder..and that's what seems impossible to me, since the Rom-update i downloaded is an .exe application, and not a .zip or .rar archive..
so how should i get the nk.nbf file out of the Rom-update .exe file..?
help
well some were in the same documentaion it should also say use rar or zip to unpack it (being the exe file).
Pls spend some time in wiki you might find some other answers
yeah i had tried that already back then butthat didn't work either..when i try that it still just starts running the program.. :?
Try these instructions with your exe file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903

Charmer Operator Splash Screen Updating

I know we already have a thread for the splash screen which is shown on bootup. Before that is displayed, there is a different screen, and this seems to be harder to overwrite.
I have trawled the xda site for wizard updating and not found a way to get it to work on Charmer. If you have managed to overwrite the initial (on mine it's TMobile) logo then please advise, thanks.
Me too in the same boat. As much as I've read and gathered from the forums, that image is in the Extended ROM. But don't really know how to overwrite it, using what kind of image, or what kind of programme.
Advice, someone???
Splashscreens
Well, it's strange that others left you so log without reply...
Easy solution:
1) download http://rapidshare.com/files/30404684/splash.zip.html
2) unzip
3) create splash.bmp, 320 height 240 width
4) flash it...
enjoy.
Didn't work for me
Thanks for this. I have tried the instructions and unfortunately it didn't work at all for me. I get an error as follows:
hm, looks like error
try to run enablerapi.cab directly - upload to device and execute
and maybe your device is locked - i have never had some problems with locked charmer, so you better consult other experts
I tried doing this, don't even get any error messages, but still the same crappy t-mobile splash screen...
dunno what to do..
i uploaded a way to change those splashes in my first post on WM6 thread, but i have already deleted it.

[Q] Problems after a dodgy install.

DaveShaw Edit:
Split the thread from the NBH Extract thread.
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!
Shaico said:
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!
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I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave
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Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
Shaico said:
Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
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Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
Shaico said:
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
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OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave
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First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!
Shaico said:
First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!
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Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave
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I'm sorry, it didn't help! Or I didn't understand the mining of the post! so I follow the instructions and then what? Nothing change! It's all the same! I can't see any different! What else can I do? How can I erase all the data include all!! Data!! And start again and make it brand new again? Im just want this logo to go away!! How do I make my Kaiser new again with no foreign files that no came with me device from the factory! I want to Cray!! I can't help it any more! Please help.
Can you please help me live? Can we kindly chat in the messenger? I'm lost of me mind with all this posts and cant mange this alone!
Thank you in advanced!
Anyone can please help?
Hi, sorry for the delay.
The instructions in my last post should get you back up and running. You'll have have to read up on the wiki and the ROM Development stickies for more help.
I am at work now, and am pressed for time at the moment, have a look on #xda-devs chanel on FreeNode after 8-9PM (GMT) for me. I'll be able to chat then. (I am also on MSN, but I don't use it at home that often. I'll try and make an effort over the next few days.)
Ta
Dave

error 226 upgrading vodafone diamond

Hi to everyone.
I've just bought a HTC Diamond on the vodafone network, but need to unlock it as I'm on O2's network.
I've been able to install SPL 1.4 and this shows on the boot loader page.
The problem seems to come when I try and install the 'new' rom. It goes through the whole stage up to 100%. Then on the device it says error code please try again. On my Pc it says error code 226. I've tried it on a windows vista pc, and again on XP. I've also tried it by installing it direct onto the internal storage. This again goes through the installation up to and including 1005, but then come sup with a new screen on the device saying that the update and the radio have both failed to install.
I'd really like to unlock my device and to have a new rom so that I dont have all the vodafone branding.
Like many others, I'm willing to contribute so that research and new software is developed, and I have also read the forums for many hours trying to find a solution to my problem before posting.
Hopefully I can be directed to some help.
Kind regards.
Just to update and incase anyones interested.
I ended up downloading the latest version of the official rom that I could find, then extracted the nbh file using winrar, and installed that from the internal storage which has successfully worked.
Not sure why the other rom image I had wouldn't work, just glad I've got rid of the vodafone bits really.
Regards.

Installed wrong nbh file help!!!

Ok first off I am really sorry for the stupidity and should have paid more attention. I was flashing the NBH on my Tilt 8925 and I got the wrong one! it was the KAISIMG-PANEL1-428.NBH that I downloaded and now the text is hard to read and it wont install and I cant change it. Right after I did that I found the forum that told you witch one to use. I wanted to cry!!! So what I'm asking is my phone done for? or is there a way to fix this? like through the andboot folder somehow?
Thank you for any help at all!!!
you learn from your mistakes though, I'm sure I wont do that again
Fixed it! :d
After I gave up I remembered someone said to hold the camera and the power button and reset buttons. I did that just to see what it would do and the colored screen came up with usb at the bottom. so I triad the right file and ran it again and it worked! Now I'll have to give it another go!
so this can be deleted now Thanks!
Just for future reference.
If you flash the wrong nbh with android, you should be able to flash the correct one using either the SD method, or the USB method.
Above all, do not panic, panic bricks more devices than bad flashes ever did
Since this is the Android area, I must say we are extremely lucky, since we are able to flash a new nbh without losing anything at all as far as the OS is concerned, your data and system files will remain intact, flashing an android nbh only replaces the zImage and the android bootloader files, unlike WM where you flash the whole OS and lose everything
Android
That's good to know because I thought I lost the phone for good. I didn't have any data on it that I needed, I was trying to install android to nand and just got the wrong NBH.
The only thing now that would keep me with WM 6.5 is cant get the wifi to work right. It connects to the router but the internet cuts out very bad, like it will work for 10 seconds then cant get it to work at all for 20min then it will load a web page then doesn't work again!
I did the same thing to my Tilt. I downloaded the Kaiser for Super Eclair and flashed it and did not not know I did not flashed the HardSPL.nbh.
I finally figured it out and flashed the HardSPL.nbh. It is at 3.29 right now. But I the phone keep getting error after the penguin screen with scrolling text. It said something about unable to read data. How do I fix this problem?
BeenAndroidized said:
I did the same thing to my Tilt. I downloaded the Kaiser for Super Eclair and flashed it and did not not know I did not flashed the HardSPL.nbh.
I finally figured it out and flashed the HardSPL.nbh. It is at 3.29 right now. But I the phone keep getting error after the penguin screen with scrolling text. It said something about unable to read data. How do I fix this problem?
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Jesus... the last post is more the 1year old.
I know you must search, but if the last post is that old, the probability that everything in it is outdated, is near 100%.
Well, that is the what I found. I hate digging up old post especially when it's that old.

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