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Can anyone recommend what settings i should have my TCPMP player on my Tilt for playing video. when i go to youtube, it lags quite i bit, so i just figured it was one of those things i have to deal with when using a pda and going to a site like youtube. but i put a video file on my storage card and played it and it lags quite a bit, probably even worst than playing something on youtube, i went to the recommend settings for tcpmp but that doesn't seem to work for a video i play directly off my storage card, any ideas on who to get less lag, i'm also using version .81RC1. Thanks

Hi!
I use "Raw FramePuffer" or "GDI" under OPTIONS - VIDEO.
Just not "DirectDraw" - It looked really bad with that...
I stream Divx/Xvid files over WLAN and from microSD and it's OK.

I've tried those options, but i still get the lag, it plays a little better in wmp, but still laggy, could it be something w/the video i put on my card, i didn't convert it to anything, mainly because i dont know how, i just put the card in my usb adapter and plugged it into my computer and copied the file to the card. Or could it be something i need to change under settings? because like i mentioned i do get the lag while playing youtube.

anyone else have any ideas on how to get tcpmp to play video's w/o much lag? i'm getting quite a bit on files i put on my storage card, it's basically unwatchable.

brianlb said:
anyone else have any ideas on how to get tcpmp to play video's w/o much lag? i'm getting quite a bit on files i put on my storage card, it's basically unwatchable.
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Had the same problem. Until I resized/re-encoded the videos with eRightSoft SUPER video converter (Free). The key is to using the "DIVX / AVI Pocket PC" as the output format.
If this doesnt work then I would try a different SD Card.

I put a 4000kb buffer in TCPMP to get normal "xvid" TV episodes working. It's a little choppy, but certainly usable. I didn't notice battery draining more than normal, and for not having to spend hours reencoding video, the occasional choppiness is okay.

Yes, the best way is to recode the video files. I don't use no fancy app for this, just windows movie maker has that option to scale it to pocket pc or any format you like. Works quit well.

Link to SUPER video converter
This a link to the free software I use SUPER. I also included a screenshot with the settings that work for me. Enjoy
http://rapidshare.com/files/74633129/Super_2007_build23_and_settings.zip.html

I found these settings on another forum and apparently they help, but I still can not play and mp4 file I encoded for the iPhone. I haven't tried other encodings, but I have seen some poeple (in addition to the OPs comment below) say DivX is one of the better types for the Tilt.
Windows Mobile Core Player Settings
I experienced the same thing on mine. I'm using TCPMP and I've found that the following steps help relieve some of the problems.
1. Options/Video:
Change from DirectDraw to Raw FrameBuffer
Uncheck "Dither" (whatever that is)
2. Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: set to Auto
3. Options/Settings/Advanced
Check "Slow Video Memory"
4. Options/Settings/Buffering
Change "Preload at Underrun" to 85%
Note: I'm using PocketDIVxEncoder to convert everything to AVI files with the right audio/video size and format and I've tweaked the rom quite a bit. The most important setting change I've found to improve response of programs/video came from the vx6700 forums:
H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/GDI/GLYPHCACHE/limit
change setting to either 32758 or 65536
I've tried both, and I'm using 32758 because it's a smaller memory footprint, but 65536 appears slightly faster.

dither 'smooths' out the colour gradients - so you dont see the nasty blockiness you get from high compression so much - also helps make the 16bit depth look a bit better

What about streaming video from your computer and re-encoding it on the stream server? Windows Media Server, VLC, and probably other apps can do this. I think Orb does this. Can anyone offer a comparison between TCPMPing divxs over the network and Orb-ing the same file?

I have tried ORB at home and it seems to work OK, but in order to really use it, you need to have a good network connection. So you are adding in yet another variable (and one which is almost completely unpredictable) to affect playback. Supposedly, ORB or Sling or whatever stream method you are using will detect your bandwidth and push you the best rate for your connection, but no connection means no playback. As an example, I couldn't get MobiTV to work over edge at all, which is promoted by AT&T as the way to watch TV on your phone. Right...

Streaming Media Youtube problem

I navigate to the mobile version of youtube. OK.
I find the thumbnail of the video i want. OK.
My tilt opens HTC Streaming media program. OK.
PROBLEM:
Get's stuck on connecting..... for hours and hours.
My connection is perfect.
Whats the problem?

Im having the same problem... Ive looked around... everyone says the answers are there if you search but Im not seeing it... Im not getting any videos from online sites to work...
I visit newsarama frequently and I dont even see that a video exists in the PIE....
http://www.newsarama.com/PulpSecret/TheStack_02_28_a.html

Get Customized HTC Streaming Media Players
OrrinS1189 said:
I navigate to the mobile version of youtube. OK.
I find the thumbnail of the video i want. OK.
My tilt opens HTC Streaming media program. OK.
PROBLEM:
Get's stuck on connecting..... for hours and hours.
My connection is perfect.
Whats the problem?
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You can now get Customized HTC Streaming Media Players, that connects to the videos 99.9% of the time. You will have 5 Customized HTC Streaming Players of your choice get them here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365248. All player have been beefed up (enhanced) with up to dated multi media software technology. Experience it for yourself and see the difference..........!

I must be the 0.01%... i just get "Failed to Connect" now... and yes, i have unchecked the proxy box
edit: who knows what happened but youtube is working now... no go on the newsarama site though...

jpofsc said:
I must be the 0.01%... i just get "Failed to Connect" now... and yes, i have unchecked the proxy box
edit: who knows what happened but youtube is working now... no go on the newsarama site though...
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Glad you got it working, now you are part of the 99%, have fun and try some of the other players............!

I am having a similar problem. I installed Opera. when i go to YouTube using IE dont have a problem watching video TCPMP launchs and everything is great... but when i go to youtube using Opera i am rerouted to myoutube.com, when i click on the video, Streaming Media launchs and it just hangs there. Is there a reason why it doesnt work with opera. Thanks, and again sorry because i am pretty new at this. I am also running Dutty's WM6.1 and i have assossiated TCPMP with the 3gp files. any idea why Streaming Media is still launching. I have installed the files above and am still having the same problem.
thanks

Problem in streaming media on you tube
hi every1. can any1 sort out my problem. actualy i have streaming media software in my XDA and it was working alrite but after installing real player it stopped working with youtube.com. i have even uninstalled real player and deleted its aplication backup but still having problem. when i click any video on youtube.com it doesnt respond a bit. i will wait for any expert response. thanx

Youtube = TCPMP + FlashVideoBundle
Mobile Youtube = Streaming Media (Which is Real Player with HTC's wrapper)
For Mobile Youtube via HTCSMP you need to change your connection settings in the app. to MediaNet for AT&T or whatever you browse the net with.

Thanks GSLEON3,
However here is where i stand. If i go to Youtube.com everything is fine. however when i got to m,youtube.com and go to launch a clip. all that happens is that streaming Media Launches and hangs. This happens wheather i am connect via wifi or 3G.
If i go to Streaming Media ->menu->options->network
No matter how many times i change it to media net, everytime i go back, it says "The Internet"
Under Settings->Connections->Manage existing connections->Proxy Settings
The Box that says "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" is NOT checked.
Under Settings->Connections->advanced->Select Network, both say Media Net
Under Settings->HSDPA, The Turn on HSDPA box is NOT checked.(not really sure what that is for)
I have no idea why i cant get the m.youtube.com vids to play ... any idea ?
Thanks

silver7x said:
I am having a similar problem. I installed Opera. when i go to YouTube using IE dont have a problem watching video TCPMP launchs and everything is great... but when i go to youtube using Opera i am rerouted to myoutube.com, when i click on the video, Streaming Media launchs and it just hangs there. Is there a reason why it doesnt work with opera. Thanks, and again sorry because i am pretty new at this. I am also running Dutty's WM6.1 and i have assossiated TCPMP with the 3gp files. any idea why Streaming Media is still launching. I have installed the files above and am still having the same problem.
thanks
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from what Ive read, youtube videos wont play with Opera Mini because that browser doesn't support flash videos as yet.

its is not opera mini, its mobile, and the problem also happens in IE. Flash is installed and works well

I think what i need is a copy of Streaming Media 3, I think reinstalling it will fix my problem. However i need something other that the IMAX 5?

m.youtube.com will not work with Dutty's WM6.1 rom
Hello,
I agree with my fellow posters, their is a huge difference between the full youtube website and the mobile youtube website. I think something is wrong with the HTC streaming player in the Dutty's WM6.1. Rom.
After clicking the thumbnail i get the message, you are about to go online. And then it starts "Streaming Media" with an endless "Connecting" message.
Had someone any luck with Dutty's rom to get m.youtube.com running?
Regards Tom

onedutch said:
Hello,
I agree with my fellow posters, their is a huge difference between the full youtube website and the mobile youtube website. I think something is wrong with the HTC streaming player in the Dutty's WM6.1. Rom.
After clicking the thumbnail i get the message, you are about to go online. And then it starts "Streaming Media" with an endless "Connecting" message.
Had someone any luck with Dutty's rom to get m.youtube.com running?
Regards Tom
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Same problem here. Just reporting. Will research...

onedutch said:
Hello,
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After clicking the thumbnail i get the message, you are about to go online. And then it starts "Streaming Media" with an endless "Connecting" message.
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Regards Tom
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same problem here. I'm using Streaming Media 3.00 (build 1001.711). Still looking for a solution.

Hey,
I just managed to solve my problem. I downloaded the HTC Streaming Media CAB file and installed it, overwriting the installation with the Dutty 6.1 rom. Now it works perfectly fine for me.
Ciao,
CUGWMUI

jpofsc said:
Im having the same problem... Ive looked around... everyone says the answers are there if you search but Im not seeing it...
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You might want to follow my articles, they're cross-posted to the General forum so you don't even need to go to another forum / page. In some of them, I've pretty thoroghly explained why this happens: the RTSP protocol doesn't work in a firewalled environment.
Solution: go for a non-RTSP-based solution like CorePlayer, the TCPMP-based plug-in and other playback solutions etc.
Read my YouTube Bible for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387986

CUGWMUI said:
Hey,
I just managed to solve my problem. I downloaded the HTC Streaming Media CAB file and installed it, overwriting the installation with the Dutty 6.1 rom. Now it works perfectly fine for me.
Ciao,
CUGWMUI
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Note that, if you are firewalled, it won't work, regardless of the ROM versuion.

Is there a decent player for tilt ?

ive tried like 5 different versions tcmpc and youtubeplay and I cant anything to play consistantly. any suggestion ?

What do you mean 'play consistently'? Are you having problems with music playback, or movie playback or both? Or are you having problems playing youtube video's through TCPMP? Perhaps you can elaborate

thanks for replying? Im trying to play a video off of youtube and the first second will start to play, then it will freeze up. If its not possible so be it. I just want to know if this is normal or is there something I can do to fix this

Are you on EDGE or 3g? It could simply be a buffering issue if I'm not mistaken. Have you looked into Coreplayer instead of TCPMP

I'm personally having serious problems playing videos off the non youtube website but can play videos (with lots of pauses for buffering) from the mobile youtube site.
If you're simply trying to play videos from the mobile youtube website, then I suggest you download the FLV plugin for TCPMP and configure your settings correctly. The correct settings can be found on the ytpocket.com website.
I don't know if you have 'flash video bundle' installed which some have said has helped them watch videos straight off youtube. It personally didn't work for me and so I've given up, but try viewing threads detailing issues simmilar to yours.
Flash Video Bundle
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376723
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FlashVideoBundle
Edited to add: Coreplayer can only be purchased, it's not a freebee like TCPMP

well most of the time the phone displays HSDPA. I hope buffering is all it is. My cellular video plays fine. Ill try the coreplayer thanks.

isoripper said:
well most of the time the phone displays HSDPA. I hope buffering is all it is. My cellular video plays fine. Ill try the coreplayer thanks.
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well are u actually on a 3G data plan?

I've been using the latest release of CorePlayer and have not had any issues.
(AT&T 3G)

isoripper said:
thanks for replying? Im trying to play a video off of youtube and the first second will start to play, then it will freeze up. If its not possible so be it. I just want to know if this is normal or is there something I can do to fix this
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Why not simply use vTap?
It can prebuffer the video or it can play directly from site if you use flv!
Also with vTap it is realy simple to search and you can watch videos from other sites too!

mchapman007 said:
I've been using the latest release of CorePlayer and have not had any issues.
(AT&T 3G)
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Is there anyway to get Coreplayer to launch directly from Youtube, or do you have to access it directly through the player. Also, do you know how to create playlist from videos viewed from youtube in coreplayer?

I've found that Streaming to TCPMP, with FlashVideoBundle, does not "keep alive" the connection. If I'm surfing the web everything is copasetic. I have Tweaked my phone to kill my Data Connection after 3 minutes. Surfing the web, it doesn't kill it after 3 minutes, or it reconnects supa-fast. But If I'm watching a You Tube Video via TCPMP if I'm not careful after three minutes 15 seconds the video stops and I notice my connection has been killed.

Coreplayer YouTube not working?

YouTube works fine in Opera and the Streaming Manager app but in Coreplayer Mobile it just constantly brings up the loading symbol when selecting a video.
Anyone else have this or know a fix? I am on Jacks 1.3 Lite ROM with the YouTube registry fix installed.

That's strange. Youtube works for me in Coreplayer. I am also using Jack's Lite Rom 1.03. I did not try if it works in Opera though.

You got to activate networkaccess in corplayersettings for youtube

sweflo said:
You got to activate networkaccess in corplayersettings for youtube
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It is ticked already

I can't get Youtube to work in Streaming Media

Have you tried ticking flv box in the file extensions/

I got an email from CorePlayer makers saying there is a bug and they are fixing it in the next release

I have come across a problem with Coreplayer and its YouTube, so I have decided to use this thread instead of starting my own using the same title.
Coreplayer plays YouTube movies. No problem with that, even more it plays them in excelent quality (setting h264 medium quality, flv high bandwidth). But for some reason it cannot stop them. When the video is over the loading sign (rotating circle) appears and the screen freezes. After a couple of seconds I hear audio as if the video started to play all over again, but the screen is still frozen on that last frame. When I press any button the audio stops as well and that is that. There is no other solution than removing the battery, which annoys me greatly.
Does any of you have the same problem and have you been able to solve it? Coreplayer plays youtube with the highest quality by farand would really like to see it work properly.

Anybody else with this wierd Youtube problem?

Except that it freezes my phone like, every 5 minutes, it works fine i guess.
Too bad I have to reset my phone every time, because if i wouldnt had to, it would be a good piece of software.
Using Coreplayer 1.3 btw.

Well I am pretty disapointed as well. The video playback of original divx files is jerky and if I have to encode I might as well encode to a file media panel recognises. And now the youtube thing. There are still podcasts, I hope I will not come across a problem there.

huh?
i dont get it... my coreplayer plays youtube great, and divx great... i did have the youtube option dissapear mysteriously, but i re-enabled it in the network setting and its worked great ever since...
ive watched 2 movies in divx - one was a fast paced action movie and it played absolutely perfectly the whole time. maybe you need to have certain settings ticked, or maybe the fact that ive used the various tweaks in this forum to speed up my sd card, and to optimize my cache settings and such is helping...
more info may help resolve this...unfortunately i dont know much technical jargon.. i fiddle until things work.

I got my core working again with an update, but the standalone youtube player and panel is MUCH easier and better to use.

Hi, i work with an HTC Touch Pro 2 and on it with the newest CorePlayer. But i can not watch any Youtube Videos. I can search, and browse the different categories. But when i want to start a video the player gets back to the starting screen.
The "normal" video playback works fine.
Why? Anybody else with this problem?
PS: I have activated the network settings.

Youtube has made a change to how their protocol works. CoreCodec knows about the isue and they said they have alreay fixed it on an internal build. Sadly we will probably have to wait a very long time for the fix to be released.

here, some videos work, some others not, like the 70% of them, just try to open but stop downloading without image

Anybody else getting this problem again?Youtube videos stopped playing for me since tuesday,i'm running coreplayer 1.3.6 windows mobile.

Yes same her, my CorePlayer 1.3.6 stopped playing Youtube end of July.
Is there any update out there?

Yep, doesn't work...lame

streaming video to G1

looked around and didnt see a post here in the g1 forum but it is possible to stream movies from your computer to your G1. just go to www.orb.com and your set. best of all its FREE!

can you be a little be more specific, it will be helpfull if you explein a little a couple of steps for this and how can you watch it on the g1.
note: I'm not trying to be ungreatfull

I just try it and is GOOD (running it, on my wifi) a little slow when watching a video but defenitly watchable, I think if they develope a software for the android like the one for Iphone this will be a killer application.
In order to use it you just have to download the software from the site and create an account, share your media files videos, mp3s, pics, documents and even your computer webcam. allow it in your firewall. Then just log in from your g1 browser, and you are good to go and enjoying all your files in your g1.

I used to use this all the time with my Wing and Tilt. Unfortunately, the video has issues. It doesn't work on the G1 through 3G as of yet. Rumors have it that Orb is in the process of developing an app... but that was spread around back in November. Who knows what happened with it since.

Be also interesting to see devices as PMP's with video out capabilities... something like vPOD's

I am able to get the video started over 3G but the video player keeps telling me "Sorry this video can not be played". I still hear the audio but the video always freezes on the first frame. Has anyone else tried this and got it to work?

Yatyas said:
I am able to get the video started over 3G but the video player keeps telling me "Sorry this video can not be played". I still hear the audio but the video always freezes on the first frame. Has anyone else tried this and got it to work?
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Same problem I've had. I have been able to get a couple videos to play correctly, but I have not been able to figure out why they played and nothing else would. Oddly enough, even the ones that would play once would not play a second time.

you can do this with "gmote" also it much easyer

Androrb was just released. Check it out.

Has anyone been able to stream to the G1 using VLC?
I have tried using the same settings as the ones from the G1 video encoding thread (and lower), but it just won't play.
(I know the OP posted about Orb, but with such a generic thread title, this shouldn't count as off topic or thread stealing...)

I do want a DLNA / UPnP app for Android. I can get Tveristy working for streaming music, but it won't stream & transcode video.

mr_notorious said:
I do want a DLNA / UPnP app for Android. I can get Tveristy working for streaming music, but it won't stream & transcode video.
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I've gotten this to work in VLC in my LAN but not from outside yet. It took me forever to get this far, and I kinda just chalked it up as progress, and haven't done much with it since. Use the rtsp address in NSW or Meridian or whatever on your phone.
need to set h264 to 1,2 baseline and audio to aac in advanced settings first
Code:
:sout=#transcode{soverlay,ab=42,samplerate=44100,channels=1,acodec=mp4a,vcodec=h264,width=320,height=180,vfilter="canvas{width=320,height=180,aspect=16:9}",fps=25,vb=200,venc=x264{vbv-bufsize=500,partitions=all,level=12,no-cabac,subme=7,threads=4,ref=2,mixed-refs=1,bframes=0,min-keyint=1,keyint=50,trellis=2,direct=auto,qcomp=0.0,qpmax=51}}:gather:rtp{mp4a-latm,sdp=rtsp://0.0.0.0:5554/stream.sdp}
In your Android video player:
Code:
rtsp://local.server.address:5554/stream.sdp

Is T-Mobile blocking ports? I just tried that method in VLC and it works great with WiFi on, but with 3G I can't get anything.