My Friend bought Kaiser From HTC Egypt and they sodl it with arabic ROM and disable the GPS ?! as it is not legal in egypt to use GPS up to now , is ther is any idea how to enabel the GPS with the original ROM without flashing a new ROM , I think it is need the dreiver or any GPS CAB to enable it, I tried Quick GPS , GPS Test , GPS utitiles but it can not detect the internal GPS
ROM details :
CE OS 5.2.1620 ( Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM Version 1.81.452.0 WWE
ROM Date 10/30/07
Radio Version : 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version 22.51.88.13H
I read another thread about this recently and I think the answer was that the GPS should be enabled - but would need a ROM Flash.
But, I think that if GPS is illegal in Egypt then there may be an agreement between HTC and the government to have this permanently disabled to allow the import licence.
Hopefully, someone who has re-enabled GPS will come along and help out - I'd be interested in the answer.
thanks for your comments, I think it is a matter of driver and I still need it without Flashing a new ROM
emad.ibrahim said:
thanks for your comments, I think it is a matter of driver and I still need it without Flashing a new ROM
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Salaam,
unfortunately, I cannot offer you a solution, but either way, you SHOULD flash your device, the ROMs here are just so much better than any of the off. ROMs. And who knows, it just might fix your GPS prob, too.
Just my two cents.
H.
There was a big thread on the Hermes forum about enabling the internal GPS. This link (post no. 192) has a couple of WM5 & WM6 drivers attached and you may find more sources elsewhere in the thread.
Maybe worth a try if you don't want to re-flash the ROM, but I think the cooked roms will have all the drivers you need - and if they don't you can always go back to the original set-up later.
thanks to all of you ; I will try the links provided by ach 2 ( thanks ) and I will report it back
I tried the Hermes Driver but it does not work , any idea ?
again, flash one of the custom roms here. the trinity was originally sold with a gps receiver built in but it wasn't enabled at first, but subsequent rom updates brought it to life...but it was a rom update, not a driver. a driver would work for unrecognized hardware, not disabled hardware
emad.ibrahim said:
I tried the Hermes Driver but it does not work , any idea ?
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Just out of curiosity, why are you SO averse to flashing a new ROM?
I just want to keep the original ROM for the warranty issues; and the original ROM is perfect for me
Well, you can always reflash the original ROM if you have to RMA the phone. Because otherwise, I don't think your GPS is going to come online anytime soon.
emad.ibrahim said:
I just want to keep the original ROM for the warranty issues; and the original ROM is perfect for me
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I've been doing some reading in the PPC-6800 thread because the chipsets have some similarities as far as the radio/GPS goes and far as I can tell you are in a similar situation as those users are in that without a re-flashing of the ROM, it does NOT seem possible to enable the GPS as many users of the Titan have been unsuccessfully trying already in this forum.
If I were you, I would reconsider the re-flashing process as it has been proved to be reversible in case you need to do a warranty return. Otherwise, it looks as though you will have to stick with your stock ROM, which seems less than "perfect" for you as it has NO GPS.
Also, have you experienced any re-flashed ROM's firsthand? It seems hard to make a judgment call about the relative perfection of a ROM without having something to which you can compare. Just an opinion...
thanks, you are right , I will flashy dutty new Rom Now, thanks for your support
so why is GPS illegal in Egypt?
As the Official statement says it is not allowed to import any GPS devices; Even Nokia E90 Communicator & N95 but nobody knows why ; sometimes they said it is a national Security issues ; but the fact is that the GPS devices including E90 & N95 are being sold at the Grey Market ! from Dubai
emad.ibrahim said:
thanks, you are right , I will flashy dutty new Rom Now, thanks for your support
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Don't forget that after you flash and set-up your rom, DON'T be impatient with setting up your GPS. It can take quite a while to get the first fix. I don't know what GPS software you plan to use but there are a couple of GPS test utilities which should help.
I'd advise the following for first set-up.
1. Go somewhere where your phone has a clear, unobstructed view of the sky - no buildings if possible (definately not near a military establishment )
2. Run QuickGPS. (Probably built into the rom).
3. Download and run either GPSTest or VisualGPSCE to see if you get a fix. GPStest should auto find your GPS com port and baud rate. VisualGPSCE needs to be set (probably com4 and 4800 or 9600 baud).
4. Start one of the above programs, put the phone down and go for a cup of tea - the first GPS fix can take some time (Some people report 30 or even 60 minutes).
Good luck and let us know if you get your GPS running so others can learn from your experience.
thanks ach2
Dear Ach2 thanks for your kind support ; I will do it today after working time at home , thanks again for your kind support
Hi I am a newbee also
I am planning to buy the HTC TYTN II from Egypt and i had heard about the GPS problem being disabled in the Original ROM.
i guessed that the drivers will not work as mentioned
in the post,
As SkizZO Said in his reply at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294113&page=20&highlight=downgrade+radio
Hermes.GPS.Driver.WM6.cab :
Include VSerial & Serial (Index=5)
Modify registry HKLM\drivers\Builtin\RIL = 4
Installs certificate
(gps panel is already active)
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Since the Rom provided disables the GPS Panel, the drivers will not find the hardware to make it recognizable.
I have 4 questions:
1- how can i do a full backup even of the rom supplied with the Kaiser originally.
2- emad.ibrahim, can you keep us updated here with how the gps will work after you do a reflash, and its performance.
3- what ROM are you using, and what are its major flaws if you found one, i heard the Dutty's Rom v2 is gr8 with a lot of fixed issues, little space consumption, gr8 number of added applications, but i am still not sure of its flaws. Can some1 also mention it here.
4- do the ROMs come with windows mobile installed, or is it something seperate?
thnx a lot for your cooperation.
emad.ibrahim, how is everything going after the new flash.
1. how did you flash your device.
2. what rom did you use?
3. how is the stability of the device after you had flashed it for the 1st time?
4. are you planning to discover and test other roms later on?
5. did the gps work? --> i could help you later on with some applications for egypt maps, and programs.
hope to hear from you soon.
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emad.ibrahim, how is everything going after the new flash.
1. how did you flash your device.
2. what rom did you use?
3. how is the stability of the device after you had flashed it for the 1st time?
4. are you planning to discover and test other roms later on?
5. did the gps work? --> i could help you later on with some applications for egypt maps, and programs.
hope to hear from you soon.
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me2 i wonna 2 know wat happen 4 u >>>>> i will buy tytn ii from egypt 2 ..... i hope to answer us ....many thank
dr.mohammed
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Where and how did you get this rom?
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Well well, that's a nice news flash... how come it's not a pre-cooked ROM, and could you explain a little more on how this ROM was built ? Please tell us everything you know about the ROM
Just flashed the rom as it came. Works fine and its quite speedy.
I had to use EnableRapi.cab, or it wouldnt work.
Liberation works flawlessly.
Changed from my Japanese rom to English.
Nicely done...Thanks very much.
PS. After the liberation and first soft reset, i had a strange high pitched noise. Soft reset fixed it.
Please show us screenies
Does the GPS Settings Icon allow you to share/split your comports with success ?
To be sure, is the ROM liberated out of the box, or do you have to re-liberate ?
How much mem is free after soft reset , and did you test the GPS already ?
QUOTE=aquasesh;2519227]Just flashed the rom as it came. Works fine and its quite speedy.
I had to use EnableRapi.cab, or it wouldnt work.
Liberation works flawlessly.
Changed from my Japanese rom to English.
Nicely done...Thanks very much.
PS. After the liberation and first soft reset, i had a strange high pitched noise. Soft reset fixed it.[/QUOTE]
You have to re liberate afterward.
GPS works on com4. got 30 Meg for storage, and 20 meg ram
ok flashed,
rom is dated 02/01/08.. its older than my original one
everything work well after liberation
however dont know telnav , they ask a pin with registration.. is it a good software..is it free??
other softaware like this one exist? (google navigator i supose)
by the way, i did not backup my french snapvue. if someone has done a dump, please send it me in case of probleme for the warrenty
cheers
This is prbably the canadian stock rom, with telenav included.
lucid said:
Does the GPS Settings Icon allow you to share/split your comports with success ?
To be sure, is the ROM liberated out of the box, or do you have to re-liberate ?
How much mem is free after soft reset , and did you test the GPS already ?
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Unfortunately the GPS is TeleNav...Since I live in Japan, I cannot sign up and check.
The rom is a shipping rom, so not liberated. But liberation works fine.
Mem is 35.95 Storage and 43.05 Program
It has a Storage Card tab under memory settings, but shows my card as not installed.
Screens will follow....
Who will Cook a liberated ROM - Vanilla ?
Who can liberate the stock ROM, and cook that into a new ROM ?
I guess the starting point for many people would be a Cooked&Liberated GPS enabled ROM.
From there, the Chiefs in the ROM Kitchens' can elaborate on that as a starting point.
It would be great if the Chiefs keep in mind that the SPLASH screens in the Shift are really UGLY and need to be flashed too
Somehow I dont have any sound using this rom.
Try turning sound on in VIsta, then soft-reset SnapVue
aquasesh said:
Somehow I dont have any sound using this rom.
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I had this once, without even flashing a ROM, it just happened.
Booted vista, de-mute, reset Snapvue and it worked,
if this doesn't work, it would be nice to hear more stories from people who flashed....
Hope you get your Tunes back.... !
Got sound. Be sure to install all latest drivers on vista side from htc. See my post on the shift forum. I had this bug before, but not anymore.
I don't think the sound issues have anything to do with audio drivers in vista side. IMHO it's related to the radio version. This ROM seems to play nicely with radio versions 1.27.x but not with radio versions 1.58.x.
Can anyone confirm that "GPS Sharing from WinMo >> Vista"
is working ? How do you do it, how does one send GPS data to vista ?
Can anyone confirm that the GPS Settings ICON in WinMo is succesfull in enabling a hardware and software (virtual) comport in WinMo ?
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Can anyone confirm that "GPS Sharing from WinMo >> Vista"
is working ? How do you do it, how does one send GPS data to vista ?
Can anyone confirm that the GPS Settings ICON in WinMo is succesfull in enabling a hardware and software (virtual) comport in WinMo ?
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any user friendly cooked rom?
lucid said:
Can anyone confirm that "GPS Sharing from WinMo >> Vista"
is working ? How do you do it, how does one send GPS data to vista ?
Can anyone confirm that the GPS Settings ICON in WinMo is succesfull in enabling a hardware and software (virtual) comport in WinMo ?
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GPS work and I tested it. To send data to vista, you can setup an activesync connection and use franson gpsgate on both side using an activesync passtrough
pof said:
I don't think the sound issues have anything to do with audio drivers in vista side. IMHO it's related to the radio version. This ROM seems to play nicely with radio versions 1.27.x but not with radio versions 1.58.x.
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I had the sound problem, but not anymore. I've upgraded ec drivers, and everything htc published a few days ago. I didn't change my radio. The drivers are definitly helping, even if it's the shagsrv or the ec controler playing a part here.
I have a 1.58 radio version, and the rom works very well with it.
I'm sure vista plays a part in this bug, and the latest update solves it.
EDIT: you are right, I don't have headset plug working anymore
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....
Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.
still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha
Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...
Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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Hi,
I updated my Kaiser using the official T-Mobile upgrade (German) to WM 6.1. Since then, my GPS is very slow to aquire a first fix. When it's up and running, performance is fine, but time-to-first-fix is three to five minutes, sometimes longer.
This even happens when I exit the GPS program, wait a while, then start it again - TTFF will again be more than three minutes.
QuickGPS is running and reporting its data as current. However, the GPS still appears to "cold start" every time, not even remembering its own previous data. With the previous WM 6.0 startup times were fine while clearly dependand on the actuality of QuickGPS data.
Has anybody else observed this behaviour, and is there a tweak to cure it?
Regs,
150d
Just have a quick search for WM6.1 and GPS. Early 6.1 ROMs had very poor GPS performance, there's a huge thread about it. Maybe your T-Mob ROM is one of them. The ultimate solution is switching to a ROM based on a newer build, custom ROMs are all fine by now.
kilrah said:
Just have a quick search for WM6.1 and GPS.
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Did you try that? Just enter anything plus "6.1" and there will be zero results. On the other hand, enter "T-Mobile upgrade GPS" and there will be about 300 pages of results, few of which will even contain the word "T-Mobile".
Either the search function doesn't work or it just doesn't like me.
Early 6.1 ROMs had very poor GPS performance, there's a huge thread about it.
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Could you give me a pointer, please?
The ultimate solution is switching to a ROM based on a newer build, custom ROMs are all fine by now.
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Problem is that I don't want to use a non-official ROM just yet. Additionally, I'm not that keen on doing the installing bit all over again just yet, so I was hoping there was a simpler solution. ;-)
Regs,
150d
150d said:
Did you try that? Just enter anything plus "6.1" and there will be zero results. On the other hand, enter "T-Mobile upgrade GPS" and there will be about 300 pages of results, few of which will even contain the word "T-Mobile".
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OK then, open wide for the train going into the tunnel: [Spoon Feeding Mode]*Hopeless* GPS after 6.1 Update?[/Spoon Feeding Mode]
Problem is that I don't want to use a non-official ROM just yet. Additionally, I'm not that keen on doing the installing bit all over again just yet, so I was hoping there was a simpler solution. ;-)
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There is.... leave it on Windows Mobile 6.0 Even the very latest HTC Official TyTN II ROMs for the European and Asian markets have hopeless GPS here in the UK when compared to the one in my sig. I've not tried any custom or operator provided ROMs so cant comment there. I think the first step should be complaining to T-Mobile that their their latest and greatest ROM upgrade actually broke your GPS and asking them for a solution (if you don't have the original ROM/ability to revert it yourself). If they claim to not know anything about this issue, you can tell them how you found out that it's a common problem.
hey guys,, need ur help with this major problem..
i made a video of it.. sorry its a burry..
background on problem..
only happens when i try to use anything to do with GPS.
ive tried other roms( win 6.1 and 6.5)from xda , gps programs, stock rom, re-alignment sh!t. hard reset, soft reset, middle reset and every other reset possible.. so if u can help it would be gr8.. and if ur idea/ solution works i will buy u a beer or 2 plus some munchies ok..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7rynSojmtk
dod you align your screen properly? Try to realign it and soft reset and then check again
jaszek, did you even bother reading the post?
uglynip - That's a really weird problem... I have not seen it on my Fuze.
hey uglynip- interesting problem you have there, i know you said you tried a bunch of differens roms; I'm just wondering if this problem is happening right after a fresh hard reset (before any programs, cabs, tweeks have been applied)?
it only happens when i use any GPS stuff, like igo8, tomotom, navman, garmin, etc, and any other GPS test stuff that the cooks normally put into their roms.... it so weird,, i also tried calling HTC and told them about my problem and they said they have never heard of it b4..i really need to use my gps stuff on this phone cause im going overseas to 4 different countries next month....so i guess no 1 else has this problem... dammmmm...it
Hi uglynip1980,
Just watched the video ... seems to me like you may need to take a least-to-many approach. If you have the patience, I would suggest:
Flashing to the Stock HTC ROM image (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs) - 5.05.405.1, 1.11.25.01, 52.58.25.30, 20764, 1.4.3
Install only one GPS application that exhibits the problem and test
Everything ok?
Leave the unit on for a couple of hours; try the GPS again start/exit a few times.
Everything still ok?
Points to something in the cooked ROM or add-on application. Since add-on applications are the next easiest to test, install and Reset one of your add-on application and confirm functionality. This should help reveal which add-on is incompatible with the GPS.
Now if all the add-on applications test fine, pull down and flash a ROM you haven't tested yet. Alternatively, you can download Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen and cook your own if you feel up to it.
Same Problem?
Hardware related; possible that initialization of the GPS radio is causing and issue. Would suggest returning the device for warranty repairs.
HTH,
PS: You may want to update the Subject Line Text of this post to in case others with GPS/device troubleshooting experience are looking.
hilaireg said:
Hi uglynip1980,
Just watched the video ... seems to me like you may need to take a least-to-many approach. If you have the patience, I would suggest:
Flashing to the Stock HTC ROM image (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs) - 5.05.405.1, 1.11.25.01, 52.58.25.30, 20764, 1.4.3
Install only one GPS application that exhibits the problem and test
Everything ok?
Leave the unit on for a couple of hours; try the GPS again start/exit a few times.
Everything still ok?
Points to something in the cooked ROM or add-on application. Since add-on applications are the next easiest to test, install and Reset one of your add-on application and confirm functionality. This should help reveal which add-on is incompatible with the GPS.
Now if all the add-on applications test fine, pull down and flash a ROM you haven't tested yet. Alternatively, you can download Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen and cook your own if you feel up to it.
Same Problem?
Hardware related; possible that initialization of the GPS radio is causing and issue. Would suggest returning the device for warranty repairs.
HTH,
PS: You may want to update the Subject Line Text of this post to in case others with GPS/device troubleshooting experience are looking.
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hey man thanks for ur reply... i think/ pretty sure that i have done all that u said b4.. but i will give it another go this w/end.. and if it works i will buy u a beer and all the other stuff i promise ok.. ill let u know how i go
Hello there,
I bought a week ago a second hand kaiser, and i noticed that it already had the hyper dragon IV lite rom flashed, so i told myself, all the hard work is done, go try some custom roms.
And I did, there was some lite ones, some plenty of softwares, some 6.5, but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
So, in order to be a more independant guy, i searched, and i searched again, i found some useful threads that made my gps work (because it almost wasn't working i bought it), and some others that made GPSTest display high bars on gps detecting but no fix at all (it also screwed my signal, and fu**** up my camera, and that's bad), all that by changing radio roms and trying.
And well i am very tired of trying again and again, feel just like if i was stuck in the middle of nowhere.
So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
I'm living at Brussel in belgium, living in the 5th floor, and testing my gps close to window, or i go to a parc 10 minutes away from home.
I am ready to try almost everything that can guis ALL of US to have a better GPS!
This works for me.
neolander said:
but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
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I can relate to that as they are both near the top of my priority list too.
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So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
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In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
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I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
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As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
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I don't (need to) use that software as GPS performs fine without it on my setup.
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
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I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
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Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
Flying Kiwi said:
In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
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Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
Flying Kiwi said:
I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
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Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
I dont have any film on my windows
Flying Kiwi said:
Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
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Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
Flying Kiwi said:
There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
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Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
tilt8925kaiser said:
I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
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I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
And like a i said i'll give Igo a shot too
Thank you for your interest, thanks for answering me
Edit:
Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
More than enough to go on
neolander said:
Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
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I don't understand what you're getting at. The precise setup in my signature works really well for GPS. If you flash all those components and aren't to far away from the UK, I imagine it'll work well for you - there's no harm in trying.
Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
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The map for my 'old' version of TomTom was on special offer (Western Europe 6.75) so you may well pick up a bargain.
I dont have any film on my windows
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I was just kidding about lead lined walls and metalised film covered windows (although many new cars these days have metalised windscreens, so if it doesn't work in your car that may be why).
Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
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Thats because you've not read the relevant ROM Flashing wiki's and stickies enough to know that you must use a WM 6.0 Radio with a WM 6.0 ROM. I suggest you spend more time revising things in this area as it WILL be time well spent and you'll learn more about your device.
Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
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Thats one of the links in the relavant section have a look at the TomTom Section around two thirds down the Kaiser wiki
I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
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Well you needent. All the details of what works best (as far as stock components go) are in my sig and as Belgium isn't far from the UK, I cant see why it shouldn't work well for you also
Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
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You did read the part in the wiki about making sure you have a WM 6.0 compatible SPL version didn't you (SPL questions? section covers it well). Again, you need ALL the bits in my sig (note that I don't need or use GPStest under this WM 6.0 setup). I cant say how it'll go with other than TomTom 6 as thats all I've used apart from Google Maps which also works very well on this setup - you might want to try the free Google Maps for testing purposes if you have a data package from your network provider.
I got my current setup by flashing hardSPL 1 then the complete ROM shown in my sig (which came with 1.27.12.11 Radio originally) then upgrading the radio to 1.27.12.32, then flashing the HTC 1.93 spl (this last step shouldn't be necessary though if you think you'll be doing more flashing).
I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible. I can see it getting signal from a number of sats but it can take 10minutes to lock in sometimes. I've read some threads on the subject, and have tried Quick GPS and have aGPS off, but neither guarantees a quick lock.
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
WM 6.1 GPS - standard stuff
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I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible.
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OK - no surprises there then....
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
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You mean like the setup in my signature? You do realise it's possible to go back to this if you read up here on xda-dev about how to do so?
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
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I agree, short of trying a custom WM 6.1 ROM, with no guarantee of success or installing third party apps to 'help' the GPS work properly, IMO WM 6.1 is a lost cause as far as GPS is concerned.
I had the same problems with the GPS, what I've found to work is using a program called GPSToday. there are 2 programs, one is a today plugin, and the other is a program. I use the program, and it really makes a difference for me. If you do a search in the Kaiser software forum, you will find more information about it. I use it with TomTom software, i start GPS today a min or 2 before i start tomtom and i get a fix right away.
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I Managed to get my phone configured exactly like yours, and god! It is damnly fast, i got my first fix within seconds, its almost unbelievable !
I had it configured like that when you first advised, but i forgot to downgrade spl, i suppose that was the cause of the malfunctioning.
I really recommend to everyone who have the same priorities, to flash back to Flying Kiwi settings:
ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
ROM Date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.32 (better than 1.27.12.11 with WMP)
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H
SPL: 1.93
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Here is the threads that can help you :
For the SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
For downloading the 1.56.405.5 rom: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
For the 1.27.12.32 radio: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Man, you really were very helpful, thank you very very very much, and my kaiser is even faster with this settings.
If i can help by anyway send a pm please
This post should be made sticky for future information!
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I have to Warn you Guys: In order to have the GPS working you have to follow this procedure:
Flash the 1.56.405.5 rom and then flash the 1.27.12.32 radio rom, and finally flash the SPL, otherwise GPS will not work, i just tested that
Did the Wm6.0 up/downgrade also resolve the precission of the GPS?
Iam now on WM6.1 WWE with radio 1.70.19.09 and hardSPL 3.56 with a realy fast GPS fix within 30 secs. no problems with that
But the problem is that I mention a little lag kind of thing when navigation with TT7 in my car. The Tomtom arrow is little bit behind with the reality it is usable though but if i connect it to an external sirfIII gps mouse it is more accurate.
So I wonder if you guys also have a slight GPS lag with WM6.0...
in Tomtom