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My Friend bought Kaiser From HTC Egypt and they sodl it with arabic ROM and disable the GPS ?! as it is not legal in egypt to use GPS up to now , is ther is any idea how to enabel the GPS with the original ROM without flashing a new ROM , I think it is need the dreiver or any GPS CAB to enable it, I tried Quick GPS , GPS Test , GPS utitiles but it can not detect the internal GPS
ROM details :
CE OS 5.2.1620 ( Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM Version 1.81.452.0 WWE
ROM Date 10/30/07
Radio Version : 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version 22.51.88.13H
I read another thread about this recently and I think the answer was that the GPS should be enabled - but would need a ROM Flash.
But, I think that if GPS is illegal in Egypt then there may be an agreement between HTC and the government to have this permanently disabled to allow the import licence.
Hopefully, someone who has re-enabled GPS will come along and help out - I'd be interested in the answer.
thanks for your comments, I think it is a matter of driver and I still need it without Flashing a new ROM
emad.ibrahim said:
thanks for your comments, I think it is a matter of driver and I still need it without Flashing a new ROM
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Salaam,
unfortunately, I cannot offer you a solution, but either way, you SHOULD flash your device, the ROMs here are just so much better than any of the off. ROMs. And who knows, it just might fix your GPS prob, too.
Just my two cents.
H.
There was a big thread on the Hermes forum about enabling the internal GPS. This link (post no. 192) has a couple of WM5 & WM6 drivers attached and you may find more sources elsewhere in the thread.
Maybe worth a try if you don't want to re-flash the ROM, but I think the cooked roms will have all the drivers you need - and if they don't you can always go back to the original set-up later.
thanks to all of you ; I will try the links provided by ach 2 ( thanks ) and I will report it back
I tried the Hermes Driver but it does not work , any idea ?
again, flash one of the custom roms here. the trinity was originally sold with a gps receiver built in but it wasn't enabled at first, but subsequent rom updates brought it to life...but it was a rom update, not a driver. a driver would work for unrecognized hardware, not disabled hardware
emad.ibrahim said:
I tried the Hermes Driver but it does not work , any idea ?
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Just out of curiosity, why are you SO averse to flashing a new ROM?
I just want to keep the original ROM for the warranty issues; and the original ROM is perfect for me
Well, you can always reflash the original ROM if you have to RMA the phone. Because otherwise, I don't think your GPS is going to come online anytime soon.
emad.ibrahim said:
I just want to keep the original ROM for the warranty issues; and the original ROM is perfect for me
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I've been doing some reading in the PPC-6800 thread because the chipsets have some similarities as far as the radio/GPS goes and far as I can tell you are in a similar situation as those users are in that without a re-flashing of the ROM, it does NOT seem possible to enable the GPS as many users of the Titan have been unsuccessfully trying already in this forum.
If I were you, I would reconsider the re-flashing process as it has been proved to be reversible in case you need to do a warranty return. Otherwise, it looks as though you will have to stick with your stock ROM, which seems less than "perfect" for you as it has NO GPS.
Also, have you experienced any re-flashed ROM's firsthand? It seems hard to make a judgment call about the relative perfection of a ROM without having something to which you can compare. Just an opinion...
thanks, you are right , I will flashy dutty new Rom Now, thanks for your support
so why is GPS illegal in Egypt?
As the Official statement says it is not allowed to import any GPS devices; Even Nokia E90 Communicator & N95 but nobody knows why ; sometimes they said it is a national Security issues ; but the fact is that the GPS devices including E90 & N95 are being sold at the Grey Market ! from Dubai
emad.ibrahim said:
thanks, you are right , I will flashy dutty new Rom Now, thanks for your support
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Don't forget that after you flash and set-up your rom, DON'T be impatient with setting up your GPS. It can take quite a while to get the first fix. I don't know what GPS software you plan to use but there are a couple of GPS test utilities which should help.
I'd advise the following for first set-up.
1. Go somewhere where your phone has a clear, unobstructed view of the sky - no buildings if possible (definately not near a military establishment )
2. Run QuickGPS. (Probably built into the rom).
3. Download and run either GPSTest or VisualGPSCE to see if you get a fix. GPStest should auto find your GPS com port and baud rate. VisualGPSCE needs to be set (probably com4 and 4800 or 9600 baud).
4. Start one of the above programs, put the phone down and go for a cup of tea - the first GPS fix can take some time (Some people report 30 or even 60 minutes).
Good luck and let us know if you get your GPS running so others can learn from your experience.
thanks ach2
Dear Ach2 thanks for your kind support ; I will do it today after working time at home , thanks again for your kind support
Hi I am a newbee also
I am planning to buy the HTC TYTN II from Egypt and i had heard about the GPS problem being disabled in the Original ROM.
i guessed that the drivers will not work as mentioned
in the post,
As SkizZO Said in his reply at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294113&page=20&highlight=downgrade+radio
Hermes.GPS.Driver.WM6.cab :
Include VSerial & Serial (Index=5)
Modify registry HKLM\drivers\Builtin\RIL = 4
Installs certificate
(gps panel is already active)
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Since the Rom provided disables the GPS Panel, the drivers will not find the hardware to make it recognizable.
I have 4 questions:
1- how can i do a full backup even of the rom supplied with the Kaiser originally.
2- emad.ibrahim, can you keep us updated here with how the gps will work after you do a reflash, and its performance.
3- what ROM are you using, and what are its major flaws if you found one, i heard the Dutty's Rom v2 is gr8 with a lot of fixed issues, little space consumption, gr8 number of added applications, but i am still not sure of its flaws. Can some1 also mention it here.
4- do the ROMs come with windows mobile installed, or is it something seperate?
thnx a lot for your cooperation.
emad.ibrahim, how is everything going after the new flash.
1. how did you flash your device.
2. what rom did you use?
3. how is the stability of the device after you had flashed it for the 1st time?
4. are you planning to discover and test other roms later on?
5. did the gps work? --> i could help you later on with some applications for egypt maps, and programs.
hope to hear from you soon.
jacky312 said:
emad.ibrahim, how is everything going after the new flash.
1. how did you flash your device.
2. what rom did you use?
3. how is the stability of the device after you had flashed it for the 1st time?
4. are you planning to discover and test other roms later on?
5. did the gps work? --> i could help you later on with some applications for egypt maps, and programs.
hope to hear from you soon.
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me2 i wonna 2 know wat happen 4 u >>>>> i will buy tytn ii from egypt 2 ..... i hope to answer us ....many thank
dr.mohammed
Hi,
I've updated my kaiser with the original wm6.1 update from htc.
Since then it takes forever to get a fix. Once i have one the signal is as strong as before.
It takes over 10 min to get a fix if i even get one at all...
I use TomTom v6 (032.8351) as navigator using the build-in receiver option.
QuickGPS is always up-to-date so that's not the problem.
Is there a way to test the gps hardware and/or settings?
CoolCow said:
Hi,
I've updated my kaiser with the original wm6.1 update from htc.
Since then it takes forever to get a fix. Once i have one the signal is as strong as before.
It takes over 10 min to get a fix if i even get one at all...
I use TomTom v6 (032.8351) as navigator using the build-in receiver option.
QuickGPS is always up-to-date so that's not the problem.
Is there a way to test the gps hardware and/or settings?
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Same here, does the GPS really use the QuickGPS update? It seems it uses really old definitions or something. Does a custom baked ROM, like a Dutty rom, fix this prob?
Has either one of you disabled AGPS (Assissted GPS)?
Yes, it is disabled here.
bio88 said:
Yes, it is disabled here.
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Did u ever use app like gpstest or gpstool? they are very helpfull in "kicking up" the gps signal.
Where can i get this?
bio88 said:
Where can i get this?
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gpstest is a freeware, u can get it in P1Taters "storage", he has got it in his signature(its in cabs/a must for me).
Or try to google it.
AGPS is quite different, it's disabled by default in most ROMs including the new 6.1 update, no surprise there.
QuickGPS is separate and should be working, and indeed appears to be working just fine, but for whatever reason the data is collects just isn't being used by the GPS in 6.1 ROMs. This has been discussed here at length (search for "hopeless GPS") and there's no solution in sight. Some claim not to have the problem, for others it's all too obvious. We can all get quick fixes from time to time, but the consistent reliability from the old 6.0 ROMs is completely gone in 6.1.
Every registry tweak, "GPS test" and radio change suggested here has proven to be a placebo so far - I'm just waiting (forever, probably) for a patch from HTC.
The same problem is also mentioned in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397728 I hope that someone will find a solution...
Sorry guys, but after sofreset I get first fix after 1-2 minutes and after that when I launch iGO I get a fix after some seconds(10-20).
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AGPS is quite different, it's disabled by default in most ROMs including the new 6.1 update, no surprise there.
QuickGPS is separate and should be working, and indeed appears to be working just fine, but for whatever reason the data is collects just isn't being used by the GPS in 6.1 ROMs. This has been discussed here at length (search for "hopeless GPS") and there's no solution in sight. Some claim not to have the problem, for others it's all too obvious. We can all get quick fixes from time to time, but the consistent reliability from the old 6.0 ROMs is completely gone in 6.1.
Every registry tweak, "GPS test" and radio change suggested here has proven to be a placebo so far - I'm just waiting (forever, probably) for a patch from HTC.
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For you maybe. Mine seems to work flawless. Every time I try, it works.
BTW, AGPS is not always disabled. Yes it is different but it might be interfering with the GPS software. It did in one of Dutty's roms i beta tested for him.
@ everyone else. Here is some cabs that might help speed up GPS Locks. Keyword is "might".
GPS Test >>http://www.4shared.com/file/39878866/6000e5dc/GPSTestppc.html
Quick GPS >>http://www.4shared.com/file/41184769/2d4081af/HTCQuickGPS_1_00_919717_01.html
Schap's Quick GPS >>http://www.4shared.com/file/39881509/516514c3/Schaps_QuickGPS_1_00_17201933_00_WWE.html
GPS Tool >>http://www.4shared.com/file/36654853/c713bfd1/Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.html
Mikulec said:
Sorry guys, but after sofreset I get first fix after 1-2 minutes and after that when I launch iGO I get a fix after some seconds(10-20).
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Congratulations?
I can sometimes get first fix after 1-2 minutes, the problem is that other times (seemingly at random) it can be 5, 10, 15, or 20 minutes. Without properly functioning QuickGPS, it's basically luck of the draw.
Once you've had a lock, the data is retained for some hours (unless you reset) so subsequent fixes will usually be fairly instanteneous, even for me. None of this really helps.
Like I said before, some people claim not to have the problem, some of them may even be right, but unfortunately for others the problem definitely exists, and nobody's put their finger on the cause.
P1Tater said:
For you maybe. Mine seems to work flawless. Every time I try, it works.
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Great. This definitely proves my GPS is fine after all. Thanks for all your help.
P1Tater said:
@ everyone else. Here is some cabs that might help speed up GPS Locks. Keyword is "might".
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Keyword is "placebo". Running a different GPS app before the actual GPS app you want to use doesn't actually speed anything up, it just makes it seem like you're "doing something". All software like GPS Test does is open a port to your GPS and try to get a fix - do you think TomTom doesn't do that already?
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Like I said before, some people claim not to have the problem, some of them may even be right
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So, those that don't have the issue are liars? Good luck figuring it out. I don't feel like having this argument on whether or not mine is working. Childish in my opinion, so I'll just move on. I believe it's quite ignorant to insult those that have tried to help whether by posting cabs or possible advice
@ everyone else, I posted some links to some cabs that might help or might not. I hope they do help those that indeed need it and not those that just want to complain. Good luck.
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So, those that don't have the issue are liars?
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Yes of course, they're damned dirty liars, all of them.
Or they've misunderstood the problem.
Or they've just tried their GPS for the first time in weeks and gotten a reasonably quick fix, just like any of us (myself included) could have done on any random occasion (consistency is the key in this).
Or they're running a completely different ROM/Radio and haven't really been paying attention (that wouldn't be you would it?)
Point is, I'd strongly encourage anyone genuinely experiencing this problem not to bother even reading this thread, just get onto HTC for a fix. All the potions and pills being suggested here are a waste of time; they've all been tried, and they don't work.
I believe it's quite ignorant to insult those that have tried to help whether by posting cabs or possible advice
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Bully for you. I believe it's quite ignorant (not to mention bloody irritating) to come onto a thread about a problem you've obviously not experienced, and try to suggest that problem doesn't exist, or that we won't have already tried all the most blindingly obvious fixes for it. But ce la vie.
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Or they're running a completely different ROM/Radio and haven't really been paying attention (that wouldn't be you would it?)
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Yup, that's me. I ignored all issues reported and used a different rom/radio combination to try and fix the issue. Oops. BTW, I never once stated the problem did not exist, as I know it does for some. You stated those that say they are not experiencing the problem are mistaken.
All I can say is that my combination is working for me. I use GPS at least 3 times a week and I always get a fix in under 20 sec. Dutty's June 8 rom and radio 1.58.25.17. Yes, this rom does have issues, but the issue's that it does have do not pertain to me as I dont use the apps that the issues involve.
OMG, this thread is going in the other direction that was supposed.
U try to help him and u get a slap in the face instead of simple THANK YOU.
Nice attitude man.
I know, jeez, isn't it? Crikey. Just goes to show. Who'd have thought it.
Anyway, if you've updated your HTC Tytn II to the new WM 6.1 update, and have been experiencing erratic GPS performance ever since, please do contact HTC Support at their website (www.htc.com) and register a bug report there. That's the only way we're all going to get a fix. Thanks!
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I use GPS at least 3 times a week and I always get a fix in under 20 sec.
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You get a fix in less than 20 seconds after a cold start of Gps? This is exactly the problem i'm dealing with WM6.1 roms. I can't get a fix in less than 2 minutes (cold start) and i have tried many 6.1 roms and many radios. In WM6 roms i get a fix in less than 20 seconds. Can you please tell me which rom do you have installed in your Kaiser? Thank you
Edit: Please give me a link for this rom you are using. Thank you
Thanks for the tips.
I'll try the tools, see if that dous anything good, otherwise i'll send a verry irritated e-mail to htc.
Btw, has anyone tried other navigation software like iGo, MioMap or Destinator?
Same problems?
And if there is no way to fix it for now, is it possible to downgrade to the original WM6?
A hard reset won't bring it back to WM6 i gues?
hi guys, I have my precious HTC touch diamond for a week now, and because of its beautifull shine, everyone wants to have one.
That's why i did some searching on the web about anti theft programs, and I found these 3
Ultimate Theft Alert v3
W.I.M.P.
Sprite Terminator
They all look pretty good, but before buying anything (or downloading ) I want to know wich one is best to pick, could you guys help me with that? also keep on mind that the program has to work on a VGA screen
Thanks, Markos Wahid
Tried three of them also and decided to (actually buy) sprite terminator with a coupon disc 50% (forgot where i got it thou), reason to buy:
- support
- price (very cheap!!!)
- easy to use
a program called mobile justice thats free and does the job, if you burn it in to a ROM before you flash the ROM to your device it will resist hardresets as well unlike most programs out there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice/
not to mention a steel chain with a steel lock, one end at yr diamond, second one around yr neck
jokes aside, ultimate theft alert is the most popular.
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
I need some advice to burn Ultimate theft alert to a ROM on diamond.
Is this possible?
^probably... check the developer forum..theyd be better at answering that...
i think the guy who makes ultimate theft also posts here...It seems the nicest.. the other alternative is sprite...the middle one doesnt look nice. i dont really know since i never had a wm device. im just saying from what ive read...
I tried to install Theft Alert but the instalation crashes...
Has anyone the same issue?
KukurikU said:
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
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Settings --> Owner information --> Options --> "When the device is turned on, display: Identification Information"
Sprite terminator requires some additional editing. It says my GPS location is in China somewhere.
Ultimate Theft seems to work alright, but I havent tested it yet with the sims, which I'll do in a few minutes.
I like the ULT 3.5 better.
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
Baronic said:
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
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I agree. All these softwares are useless as most people would hard reset the device.... As far as cooking goes, I really want to get into doing this - I just need the 'beginner' tutorial, before the 'hardcore' tutorial..
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
Riel said:
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Well I do know that HardSPL has overwrite protection and you cannot flash a new SPL after you've installed it. Although there will be a 'downgrade' package soon so you can get back to stock SPL.
I don't understand why there isn't such a flash and/or hard reset protection...it's just very frustrating when you lose the device(like I did once) knowing the next 'owner' could simply hard reset (or flash a new ROM) to use it as his own device. I know, cooking some settings into a ROM solves a little piece, but more and more people are aware of XDA-dev and know about flashing. So you could cook your anti-theft into your ROM, but agianst flashing there is nothing u can do
Well, I thought, it should be possible to lock SPL flashing, by encrypting the bootloader by (my own) password?
On the moment one makes flashing without my password impossible, a antitheft program can be installed in the ROM and running always, even with hard-reset.
One should vind an easy way of providing MY sim card data into that rom prior to flashing.
Hi Folks,
But back to the topic, is there any anti-theft programs that really works in the first place for Diamond? I had tried Star Enforcer (it can't get the current IMSI number), Mobile Justice (it can't send out SMS) and RemoteTracker (can't run... I need to research more on this..).
Cheers.
mobile justice, did you install the certificate? most problems are as a result of that not being done, give me a PM if you want a hand and ill talk you through it, it does work well, but as already been mentioned all it takes for any software is a full flash, if you install many of the apps to the ROM before flashing it you can at least survive a hard reset.
Thanks Dazza,
I had missed installing the certificate.
But now, after some testing, I found out that it was only able to send out SMS unless I select "Disp.MsgBox".
Is this something expected? May be MJ needs to be re-rewritten or recompiled for WM6.1?
I'm aware of the hard reset issue. Am planning for myself to learn how to cook up a ROM, with my details in, to prevent this.
Cheers.
Tried UTA 3.5. and WIMP
Both can send out Text messages to designated telephone no.
But i thought UTA 3.5 could monitor the sms and phone calls going in or out of the phone. but it didnt seem to work. it crashed. and when you inserted a new sim it kept on asking whether i wanted to run the .exe file not very good.
Am testing out WIMP at the moment and seems to be ok.
but not alot of functionality if compared with UTA that is if UTA worked.
That would be a very good idea if you can input it into the ROM. but will you not have to mess with the registry to 'register' the product and keep your data.?
Well,
When I did a hard-reset last week, I observed that the device begins installing some software onto itself, just like it did when I first powered it up. May be we can cook up something into a cook ROM to do something identical? E.g. the settings required for MJ?
But then, I'm a noob at this stage (with a full time job and family). So, I'll have a very long way to go.
Cheers.
hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
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It think it has nothing to do with the hardSPL but u could try olinex 1.93
For roms, try swiftBLs or maybe christonges ct.
dragilla said:
hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
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Well well well, there seems to be some problem...
I have exactly the same: no GPS fix but still seeing the sats, then no sats anymore.
I installed Dutty's 1.8 too yesterday and after that CT's.
Now back to a stock ROM including Stock SPL, but no GPS anymore...
I'm afraid I have to send my device for repair.
What do we have in common? We both flashed Dutty's 1.8, we both changed radio's (I went from .08 to .05).
Are there more victims out there???
look here... i will try this now
Don't know how about you... but it worked for me. ..at least for now. I got a fix.
Try it - soft reset your gps!
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After every ROM flash, you need to cold boot your GPS.
This is why the first time you have to wait 5-10 minutes to get a fix.
You can always use HTC GPS Tool or any similar app to cold boot.
ok, it helped only for a while. I then installed skype, google maps, maybe something else, synced with outlook and now gps cannot be found. Even by htc_gps_tool. It now says "failed to send NMEA command".
GPS Test scans ports and stops at com4 (this is the gps port)... and nothing happens. Hard reset of the device does not help.
Any ideas? Just 1h ago gps seemed to work
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Do you have AGPS enabled? If so, disable it.
I WOULD recommend to start everything from the beginning:
1: flash a radio (.08)
2: flash a vanilla ROM (DON'T install anything else apart from HTC GPS tool)
3: Try getting a fix with this setup. We'll then know if it's a hardware problem or just your fiddling.
So don't touch the hardspl? If it works it works and i shouldn't change it?
What do you mean by "a vanilla rom". Any rom with vanilla=tflo3d? If so, what if this rom has radio in it (dytty's 1.8 has radio 07).
ps: how to change agps setting? I used pocket toolman now... had to install it... and guess what: agps was off. I turned in on rebooted and turned it off again. Didn't help.
Thanx for the interest in my problem Awaiting further instructions.
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I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol
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I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol
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Just did the same you did (flash to an official ROM, including stock SPL, so everything back to the original state. Still no more GPS fix. GPSTest gives a few low signals but not enought for fix. Tried it outside for half an hour.
My device goed back for repair.
I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that
I had the same prob. And even when i had a fix it loses the fix and then it fixed agian so on and so on. Had it with igo8 and tom tom 7 and a smal program to see gps reception.
I switched back to radio .05 and used rom sc (skippycentraal) v2.8 (dutch language, is perfect for me cause i'm from holland )
I't works perfect, in about 20 to 30 sec outside getting a fix.
sometimes i'll even get a fix indoors
I think its a problem with the roms with the new radios, but the reason for the gps problems itself is affected by some applications.
Ummm a bit worrying..... I must admit after frying my Hermes with a new radio and then my Polaris after flashing a compatable radio from another device I´m a little vary now. I´ve stuck with .05 for a while now and I´ve been flashing between 5-10 times a day for the last few weeks and TomTom has been fixing everytime no issues whatsoever.
dragilla said:
I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that
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how do you softreset GPS???
Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
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dragilla said:
Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
regards,
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Dragilla
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Also did that, no fix... GPS definitely is broken, back to repair.
GPS no signal
God damn it...
everyone keeps flashing ROMs etc and I thought it was safe, I have exactly the same problem as pietrucci
and now I read that flashing everything back to stock doesn't fix the GPS ...
that REALLY PISSES ME OFF
there seems to be no information on how to properly "restart" the GPS so to make it work.
also from a technical point of view, how can you possibly "break" the GPS by installing hardSPL and another ROM, without even touching the Radio?
this problem better get a fix somehow and lets hope we (me, pietrucci and evilskanker) are able to fix it, or I will stop flashing untested **** altogether. it's fun as long as it works, but if someone reports a problem that is suddenly an exception, then things start to get quite a bit less safe as you see!
just my 2 cents.
Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.
sepa said:
Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.
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Ok, I'm wiling to try everything. I'll leave the battery out for some days.
What do you mean by short-circuit the battery contacts, just hold a piece of iron on the phone contacts? Or do something with the battery itself? Doesn't that damage the device or battery?
By the way: I'm can't tell for sure my broken GPS was caused by flashing. But it was right after my last flash (Dutty v1.8) that is was dead. Everything I did after that (flashing to other ROMS, to stock ROMS, hardresets, GPS resets) was to try to get life in my GPS. But as you know now, without any effect.
All in all I believe it has to do with flashing but not 100% sure...
Since I bought my Diamond, last week, I haven't been able to get a single fix.
Even worse, although my GPS is detected as running by every GPS soft, there is only one sattelit bar active at a time.
(about 10 satelits are being sensed, but only one is actually sending datas to my device, every time...)
I've never expericenced such problems with my preivous triny. There were always at least 3 or more bars moving up and down at a time, and at the end I could get some fix.
- either it is a hardware problem and I got a crap GPS chipset...
- or it is a setting problem with my ROM.
By the way, in the External GPS settings screen, I have strange infos:
Port GPS: com4 which is normal, GPS Material Port: None!!
baud rate: 4800 (which I think is very low, but I heard everybody has got the same)
What's wrong with my device?
Seems to be lots of posts on this issue...a nice simple one is to flash a new radio.....if that doesn't work do a Hard Reset (to be sure!) and restore to minimum and see if it runs.....then move on from there....
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
riri22 said:
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
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....I'm about to revert back to the 07 radio (from 08) as it did not give me the same sat pickup as 07....you can also try the HTC GPS Tool and run a COLD start...I understand this wipes the data and restarts as advised previously...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
...lot of other goodies here
The Doctor said:
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
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I have a similar problem from time to time.A lot of data received from 10-12 satellites but a fix only after a long long time. In comparison with the Garmin Gps I have the sensitivity of the Diamond GPS receiver is good, but the algoritm is not. Diamond radio is .05
I have the same problem if i delete the log file and update with quick GPS.
It seems that the algorithm in the radio sometimes is not able to converge easily to a fix.
My tomtom was working just Excellent on my diamond, than i did a hard reset and no gps, 1 bar for over 1 hour, so reflashed the same rom again 1.93.405 still same problem, so flashed 1.93.401 and bingo it works again. after a nother hard reset 1.93 401 rom gps wont work angin, this time the 1.93 405 rom fixed it. ( all WWE roms)
no idea why this happend.. when the diamond gps works its excellent (better than most tomtom units) but thants only when it works.
as the gps feature is very importent to me, i now have a back up bluetooth gps incase inbuilt gps fails.
and with out quick gps i find its aloms impossible to get a lock.
I only hope HTC fic this issue if not this will have been my first and last HTC product.
Any tips welcomed
Hi mates,
First of all thanks for the link and the goodies, in fact I had already found some datas since many Diamond users seem to have similiar problems with their device.
I agree this is obviously a mistake of HTC to have put a defectuous part in their phone.
1) My problem even went worse yesterday after I flashed the last HK WWE ROM: my GPS wasn't even sensed by the softs!
No NMEA datas blabla...
2)
many hard reset and reflash couldn't fix the problem. I was about to give up when i found info about that HTC GPS TOOL I had never heard about.
After using it for quite a while, at least my GPS was finally sensed and 'some' datas received, though it wasn't enough to get a proper satelit bar, not to mention a fix...
3)
So now I'm back to the same point: no fix or proper reception available, although I'm already quite happy that my GPS is detected again!
3)
I got back to the same stock radio, x.x.5 but no matter which one I use, I can't see when I'm going to have a a fix with that whimsical GPS!
SOLVED!!!
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
Hello ! (I am french)
I have a HTC Diamond P3700 and Tomtom Navigator 7.910 + western Europe 1GB map.
This map map is not recognized ? How repair ? Thanks